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X-Men: Phoenix Warsong

SentrySentry Registered User regular
edited November 2006 in Graphic Violence
For anyone not familier with this story, Wiki has a good synopsis here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Phoenix_-_Warsong

So, my question is... why does this thing suck so bad? I mean, I enjoyed Phoenix: Endsong, it was interesting and the art was simply amazing. However, with the third issue of this series done, I can't help but not care how it ends.

My question: Is anyone else actually reading this, and, is anyone else actually LIKING this?

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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I used to think the Cuckoos were cool.


    However this ends, I think that's been ruined.

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    awesome_andyawesome_andy Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    That sounds pretty horrible.

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    blackranger3dblackranger3d Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Sentry wrote:
    For anyone not familier with this story, Wiki has a good synopsis here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Phoenix_-_Warsong

    So, my question is... why does this thing suck so bad? I mean, I enjoyed Phoenix: Endsong, it was interesting and the art was simply amazing. However, with the third issue of this series done, I can't help but not care how it ends.

    My question: Is anyone else actually reading this, and, is anyone else actually LIKING this?

    Reading, not really liking.
    But I must finish.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    awesome_andy wrote:
    That sounds pretty horrible.

    Oh Come on! They're [spoiler:599fb72ccc]zombie robots![/spoiler:599fb72ccc]

    Also, the exact panel one of them loses an arm, they each have two. They're even talking about how one of them lost an arm.

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    Conditional_AxeConditional_Axe Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    it should be pointed out that Morrison planted the seeds for all of this, and that none of it is a horrible departure from the hints and clues he laid.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Reading, but also, not liking...

    This really feels like it should have been an X-series arc, and not even HALFWAY involved with anything doing with the Phoenix. It makes it seem so....unfocused...

    Now, what we need to see is Jean Grey in full on Whitecrown/Phoenix mode, showing up at the end of Civil War AND Annihilation declaring...

    "War OVER"

    That would make me all kinds of tight in the pants....

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Conditional_Axe wrote:
    it should be pointed out that Morrison planted the seeds for all of this, and that none of it is a horrible departure from the hints and clues he laid.

    I bet he'd make it not suck, though.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Conditional_Axe wrote:
    it should be pointed out that Morrison planted the seeds for all of this, and that none of it is a horrible departure from the hints and clues he laid.

    I just want to say that it's one hell of a downward slope from Fantomex to this pile of crap..

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I enjoyed Endsong. Especially the part where [spoiler:143e8af77e]Jean has Logan kill her over and over again, that was so fucked up and yet awesome. Asking someone you know who has feelings for you to do the unthinkable again and again to weaken yourself.[/spoiler:143e8af77e]

    As for the article/Warsong, to the wiki-browser!

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    deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Is this in continuity?

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    deadonthestreet wrote:
    Is this in continuity?

    As far as I know, yes, it is. I think it might have been mentioned in another X-book (Endsong, not Warsong), but I could be mistaken. I'm pretty sure it is in continuity though.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Conditional_Axe wrote:
    it should be pointed out that Morrison planted the seeds for all of this, and that none of it is a horrible departure from the hints and clues he laid.

    Yep.

    I guess the execution sucks or something? Haven't read it.

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    laughterkillsmelaughterkillsme Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The Pheonix is everything that is right with X-Men comics .. and then everything that has gone wrong with x-men comics in the last 2 decades.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Sentry wrote:
    For anyone not familier with this story, Wiki has a good synopsis here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Phoenix_-_Warsong

    So, my question is... why does this thing suck so bad? I mean, I enjoyed Phoenix: Endsong, it was interesting and the art was simply amazing. However, with the third issue of this series done, I can't help but not care how it ends.

    My question: Is anyone else actually reading this, and, is anyone else actually LIKING this?

    [spoiler:566d6e5d27] And finally, the episode concludes with the Three-In-One's discovery that they're only three of several hundreds/thousands of identical female units-- the remainder residing in individual incubation chambers hidden within an underground laboratory. The two deceased Cuckoos, now undead but still decayed, seem more aware of the unfolding events than do the Three-In-One; though how this is so has yet to be revealed.

    In the third issue, it was revealed that the cuckoos were clones of Emma Frost. It was also shown that Celeste now weilds the Phoenix Force.[/spoiler:566d6e5d27]


    laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Servo wrote:
    Sentry wrote:
    For anyone not familier with this story, Wiki has a good synopsis here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Men:_Phoenix_-_Warsong

    So, my question is... why does this thing suck so bad? I mean, I enjoyed Phoenix: Endsong, it was interesting and the art was simply amazing. However, with the third issue of this series done, I can't help but not care how it ends.

    My question: Is anyone else actually reading this, and, is anyone else actually LIKING this?

    [spoiler:61b56c6e82] And finally, the episode concludes with the Three-In-One's discovery that they're only three of several hundreds/thousands of identical female units-- the remainder residing in individual incubation chambers hidden within an underground laboratory. The two deceased Cuckoos, now undead but still decayed, seem more aware of the unfolding events than do the Three-In-One; though how this is so has yet to be revealed.

    In the third issue, it was revealed that the cuckoos were clones of Emma Frost. It was also shown that Celeste now weilds the Phoenix Force.[/spoiler:61b56c6e82]


    laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame

    ...

    D:

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Whatever. It's all in the execution. That plot in the right hands could be totally awesome.

    I like how people get upset when things happen in comics.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    it's still a pretty lame idea


    hey guys let's beat the phoenix to death

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    august wrote:
    Whatever. It's all in the execution. That plot in the right hands could be totally awesome.

    I like how people get upset when things happen in comics.

    No, I agree... if this was well written and had better pacing, it might be good. But as it is now, it's making baby jesus weep tears of blood.

    Which is so odd, because it's the same guy who wrote Endsong, and these two books cannot be more different.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    in print, i mean

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Servo wrote:
    it's still a pretty lame idea


    hey guys let's beat the phoenix to death

    It's been dead for a while. A long while. Morrison used it.

    Plus, it's The Phoneix Force, not Jean. That shit can do whatever it wants as far as I'm concerned.

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    ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    [spoiler:9cf170471e]They're not clones of Emma, they're her daughters, from stolen eggs.[/spoiler:9cf170471e]

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    it's still a pretty lame idea


    hey guys let's beat the phoenix to death

    It's been dead for a while. A long while. Morrison used it.

    Plus, it's The Phoneix Force, not Jean. That shit can do whatever it wants as far as I'm concerned.

    i dunno, i've never liked the cosmic stuff in marvel and definitely not really in x-men

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Servo wrote:
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    it's still a pretty lame idea


    hey guys let's beat the phoenix to death

    It's been dead for a while. A long while. Morrison used it.

    Plus, it's The Phoneix Force, not Jean. That shit can do whatever it wants as far as I'm concerned.

    i dunno, i've never liked the cosmic stuff in marvel and definitely not really in x-men

    Well then, there you go. If you think the Phoneix is lame from the outset then it's not really the guy's fault you don't like the plot of a book with Phoenix in the title.

    Not that I'm saying it's a good book.

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    it's still a pretty lame idea


    hey guys let's beat the phoenix to death

    It's been dead for a while. A long while. Morrison used it.

    Plus, it's The Phoneix Force, not Jean. That shit can do whatever it wants as far as I'm concerned.

    i dunno, i've never liked the cosmic stuff in marvel and definitely not really in x-men

    Well then, there you go. If you think the Phoneix is lame from the outset then it's not really the guy's fault you don't like the plot of a book with Phoenix in the title.

    Not that I'm saying it's a good book.
    sure it is

    it's his fault for using a lame concept!

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    augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    no u r

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Servo wrote:
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    it's still a pretty lame idea


    hey guys let's beat the phoenix to death

    It's been dead for a while. A long while. Morrison used it.

    Plus, it's The Phoneix Force, not Jean. That shit can do whatever it wants as far as I'm concerned.

    i dunno, i've never liked the cosmic stuff in marvel and definitely not really in x-men

    Well then, there you go. If you think the Phoneix is lame from the outset then it's not really the guy's fault you don't like the plot of a book with Phoenix in the title.

    Not that I'm saying it's a good book.
    sure it is

    it's his fault for using a lame concept!

    Except that a lot of people like the Phoenix, and cosmic stuff (hello Annilhation)

    So if anything, it's your fault.

    :|

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    Furu wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    august wrote:
    Servo wrote:
    it's still a pretty lame idea


    hey guys let's beat the phoenix to death

    It's been dead for a while. A long while. Morrison used it.

    Plus, it's The Phoneix Force, not Jean. That shit can do whatever it wants as far as I'm concerned.

    i dunno, i've never liked the cosmic stuff in marvel and definitely not really in x-men

    Well then, there you go. If you think the Phoneix is lame from the outset then it's not really the guy's fault you don't like the plot of a book with Phoenix in the title.

    Not that I'm saying it's a good book.
    sure it is

    it's his fault for using a lame concept!

    Except that a lot of people like the Phoenix, and cosmic stuff (hello Annilhation)

    So if anything, it's your fault.

    :|

    no, all those people are stupid

    so it's their fault

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    There there, servo.

    Let's go get some ice cream.

    Huh?

    You wanna go get some ice cream?

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    ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    no, ice cream sucks too

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    Toji SuzuharaToji Suzuhara Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The last couple of pages of New X-Men are some of the best in the series. You're all on drugs.

    "I... had to amputate the whole future."

    And then Jean rewrites the future of the universe by telekinetically controlling every single molecule as the... uh Phoenix Corps looks on. It made the very bad last arc worth reading.

    Too bad the art sucked anyway.

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    SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    It's like All-Star Batman only not funny.

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