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Bitches, Hoes, and Who got Gauntlet in my Loli Dating Sim?: Rune Factory 2

Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Games and Technology
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Rune Factory 2: A criminally overlooked game that came out last week. Honestly you should all be ashamed that it took so damn long for someone to make a thread.

What is this game? Well, take Harvest Moon, everyone's favorite farming sim slash loli dating sim, and add in some light action rpg elements like Gauntlet, right down to the monster generators.

So you run around farming, wooing townsfolk and women, and then the rest of the time you explore various dungeons for loot and of course the slaying of monsters. Build up stats, go to festivals, find a wife, have a child.

Developed by Neverland. Yeah, once upon a time they did the Lufia games.

So you've played RF before and want to know what is the same?

Well, the basics are the same, HP for life, RP for actions, regain RP from grown crops, grow in dungeons year round and at home based on the seasons.

You play another mysterious boy who lost their memory, at least for the first half. Not Raguna though.

At least one character makes a cameo from RF1, but you are in the same country as RF 1, just a few years later and a different town.

What is different you say?

All new cast (except for one surprise)

Festivals

Quests! Yep, just like any MMO. You have a bulletin board, people ask you do to something, you get it done. Hell, you only start out with a hoe and a watering can and need to earn the rest of the tools by doing quests. Just about everything you ever do with a character including most love events and marriage involve a quest in some way. Including proposing. I'm not kidding. Luckily before you do get married it is possible to complete all the quests. In the first half of the game at any rate....

The game is multigenerational. Yep, like a lot of the RPGS of the 90's this game is a two parter. First half is more Harvest Moony, concerned with getting a wife and having a child. Second part is more adventurey as you can unlock crafting and fully open up the four dungeons.

Unfortunately there is a real lack of any good sites for pictures of this game, or else I'd throw up the loli hit list and some good shots. The girls for the most part are as weird and memorable as the ones from RF1, so at least it has that going for it. Also at least one of them doesn't look nine, which is always a plus in any HM game. :P

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  • SAW776SAW776 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You know, I had heard bad things about the combatish dungeon crawling parts of the game.. but once you compared it to Gauntlet, all sorts of warm and fuzzy childhood memories came back and now I sort of want to try it.

    Though, part of my enjoyment from Gauntlet came from playing with someone else, solo was still pretty entertaining.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    SAW776 wrote: »
    You know, I had heard bad things about the combatish dungeon crawling parts of the game.. but once you compared it to Gauntlet, all sorts of warm and fuzzy childhood memories came back and now I sort of want to try it.

    Though, part of my enjoyment from Gauntlet came from playing with someone else, solo was still pretty entertaining.

    The combat is not the focus of the game, but the flow is a bit better than RF1.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Strongly considering an import on this one when I next get money.
    Something about it is oddly appealing.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You ever play RF1?

    This game is better in every way. The quests and the changes to income (Minerals being worth much less, no crafting in the first part) really make the game a lot better.

    I'm also digging the oddity of the ladies in this game.

    In the first one only Mist, her rival, and Mei were that interesting. In this one? All of them have some pretty interesting things to say.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I was going to get RF1, then I heard from importers that this fixed the problems of the first (combat, townsfolk interaction) and decided to wait for it.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The interaction and combat were ok in RF1.

    If you find the old thread on the topic the real problem with the first game was how easy it was to cheese the whole thing out.

    You can become a millionaire easily in the first half of the first year.

    You can have a fully watered and harvested field in the same time period. If not for seasonal requirements for the fifth cave, you could easily beat the game by that point and get even more game breaking stuff.

    This game has more stuff to do and Rune Factory Frontier looks to be a remake of the first game's story anyways, so you might have chosen well.

    I still think that RF2 has a problem of rewarding players too early, but it may be for the better. I really don't have hundreds of hours to devote to these games anymore. It's still not as bad as RF1.

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  • Capncrunch7Capncrunch7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    This is quite a departure from other HM titles, but so far it's pretty charming.

    What should my first plan of action be? I can't afford a single bag of seeds or a sword, so I'm at a loss for what to do.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I accidentily stumbled on the best way to start the game.

    1. When Mana and her equally crazy dad show you the farm, time doesn't move. Clear the field and sell all of that crap.

    2. Talk to Mana about how to play the game and she'll eventually give you a set of seeds.

    3. Talk to every fucking person in the town, and then start doing quests.

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  • simsidesimside Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I got this yesterday, but I want to finish off HM: Island of Happiness before I start this one. I'm really looking forward to it though, it really does seem to fix any and all problems I had with the first one. And as much as I love regular Harvest Moon games, Rune Factory seems to take everything I love doing in them and make it into an awesome game that's actually fun to play and isn't just appealing to my OCD nature.

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  • TeaSpoonTeaSpoon Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    When you first meet all the villagers, there are these little cutscenes that introduce basic character traits.

    Protip: turn off the sound.

    If you don't, there's a good chance it'll ruin the game for you. There are perfectly decent characters that I can't stand because their voices are just that fucking awful for those few seconds. I'm thinking they saved a few bucks by getting their cafeteria staff and random hobos to do them. Sure, the voices are only there for a minuscule fragment of the game, but those moments are torture.

    You only get one chance to make a first impression and these guys ruined it.

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  • DisDis Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    They only make the Girl's version of Harvest Moon once I think.
    I guess it didn't sell well enough for them to make more Girl's version of Harvest Moon.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    They've been making girl's versions of HM games in Japan for a long long time.

    They've released at least three different ones in the US. Another Wonderful Life, More Friends of Mineral Town, and HM DS Cute.

    If you count all the games where you can choose your gender you can get that up to ten.

    Also the second half of this game you can choose your sex.

    Speaking about this game here is all I've gathered regarding this game.

    1. Do Quests. Especially if rich people are giving them to you. Doing quests is the only way to earn the tools you need, and you do need a rather large sum of money to beat the first generation.

    2. Talk to people. Because you need friendship points to get said quests, you need to give people crap and talk to them daily to raise friendship. Luckily after a few days of talking to them the person will probably spill the beans on what it is they like.

    3. Use RP, Get more RP. Always harvest non repeatable crops as late as possible so you can get their RP. Flowers in dungeons can be cracked open for more RP. The bath is availible anytime after 3pm (Save Mondays!) and will give you another bar.

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  • SAW776SAW776 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Leave it to the hot chick in town to cheat you out of 100 gold. >.<

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yep.

    She is probably the easiest or second easiest girl to woo, by the way, especially if you're going to get everyone's Friendship and Love up.

    For a mere 20g she will tell you where anyone is, divided by family. 20g is chump change. Once per day you can significantly boost both her F and L stats by getting one of these done, and they are very helpful for tracking down a few hard to find people like Yue and Dorothy.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Why are there no reviews for this up yet?
    Irritating.

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  • DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm enjoying this so far; just got my barn built (I spent the early quest money on weapons I don't really need instead of on the barn I do need; don't be like me).

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I couldn't find this game when I looked for it yesterday. I'll probably try again over the weekend.

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  • DarianDarian Yellow Wizard The PitRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I went with the Amazon pre-order; came with a squirrel plushy.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The pre order bonuses are the only salve for the normally massively delayed Natsume games.

    I think part of the reason none of the US fansites have any real info for this game is that it wasn't delayed eight months so they didn't have their normal time to prepare.

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  • simsidesimside Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The pre order bonuses are the only salve for the normally massively delayed Natsume games.

    I think part of the reason none of the US fansites have any real info for this game is that it wasn't delayed eight months so they didn't have their normal time to prepare.

    Yeah, Natsume's last two games... This was only pushed back one month, and Princess Debut was actually on time. I wasn't sure what to make of that. Maybe you're right about the preorder bonuses, because Princess Debut didn't have one.

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  • Capncrunch7Capncrunch7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I wish this game weren't divided in two so severely. I always save marriage for one of my ultimate goals in the game, but this time around it appears I don't have access to most of the game until I hurry up and get hitched.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    You have three years in which to woo a girl before the rival moves in. I'm pretty sure though that to guarantee you can advance the game that Mana has no rival.

    You can get all of the girls to 10/10 in two or three seasons. A year if you are slow.

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I recently got Island of Happiness through Goozex, and Rune Factory 2 came from Amazon today with a cute little squirrel. I have enough energy to play one farming sim, at the moment, and then will need to recharge my farming sim RP, so to speak. That usually takes a few months. :P

    So, which is the better game? If a person were only going to play one, which would you recommend?

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I really need to beat Rune Factory, I have a good thing going, I just can't focus on my DS anymore.

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I played through the beginning of IoH and RF2, and, wow, the art and translation are way better in RF2. I'll be playing through that one, I think. It just seems a lot more polished, at least from my first glances at each.

    Now, to hunker down for the evening for some pure HM/RF goodness. <3

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Am I the only one playing this, right now? We had such a chill little community back for RF1. Let's do that again. :P

    This game is pretty awesome, and it's a shame it's being talked about even less than usual for an HM/RF. It's a more detailed, more complex, better-balanced RF with all of your gripes fixed and other awesomeness added, as well. They really perfected the DS controls, too, IMO. I am having a blast, and no annoyances so far. :^:

    I just filled up my first barn with monsters. I usually do one floor per monster type, but it looks like you can only have two waterers and two harvesters assigned, so they are sharing a floor. I've got [cows], [sheep], and [chickens] on the other three floors. I haven't found [bees] yet. I'll be adding a new barn, soon. There's no shortage of wood, that's for sure... people give me faggots left and right. :P :winky:

    I just now started planting in the dungeons. I've got four 3x3 plots in each of Spring, Fall, and Winter. I may just skip Summer altogether, for crops, though, because fuck sailing across the ocean every morning just to water that shit. :P

    I've narrowed my marriage prospects down to Julia, Cecilia, and Rosalind. I am leaning towards Julia, though. I actually like Mana a good deal, but feel like she's too easy. I sort of want to marry Ceci, though, just because fuck Jack, y'know? Elf prick.

    Anyway, really enjoying this game. The translation is actually really good, in terms of humor, idioms, personality, and grammar. There are some typos, but nothing terribly awkward. If you like Harvest Moon games, buy this and play it. You might still be able to get a squirrel from Amazon.

    Edit: the quests are brilliant. Exactly what the gameplay needed to tie everything together and make the town feel really cohesive and dynamic. Yes, they're a bit fetchy, but each one has fairly unique dialog and that makes them satisfying.

    Edit edit: the voice acting really isn't that bad. Nobody is terribly good, but nobody is annoying enough to grate on my nerves. In particular, the marriage prospects, excepting maybe Alicia, but she's a whore anyway, are acceptable. I'd prefer none, but they really don't bother me that much.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Voice acting is pretty bad, and yes, I dropped this like a phat beat for Chrono Trigger. I'm still early.

    Very good last hurrah for Natsume as far as RF goes. Let's see how well XSEED does with Frontier.

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  • OneWingedOtakuOneWingedOtaku Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Loli Dating Sim? Sounds maximum risky. o_O

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  • CrashmoCrashmo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The wife played Rune Factory 1 a lot, but there's so many games out right now that it may be a while before she even wants this. I'm actually tempted to play it myself but there is just too many games.

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  • AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'd be playing this game if I could find it anywhere. I mean, I have enough games to keep me busy anyway, but I still really want this.

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Voice acting is pretty bad, and yes, I dropped this like a phat beat for Chrono Trigger. I'm still early.

    Very good last hurrah for Natsume as far as RF goes. Let's see how well XSEED does with Frontier.
    Aw. Well, come back soon.

    Also, the developer isn't changing, right? Just the publisher? So, hopefully the series won't change too drastically.

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  • xa52xa52 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Crashmo wrote: »
    too many games.

    Same here. I enjoyed the first one, and it sounds like this got all the improvements it needed. This is definitely on my list, but probably not for at least a month.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'll be getting this once the christmas shopping goes away.

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  • gilraingilrain Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Grr. I want to compete in the animal taming contest, but its poor design is a bit frustrating. You have to befriend a monster the fastest. The problem is, at this juncture in the game, I am limited to one barn. And it's already full of friendship-level 10 animals. I would have to release one in order to compete.

    Hrm. Anyone know at what point you're allowed to build more barns?

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