I know I'm late to the discussion, but how exactly does advanced versus make the melee closet strategy not work? What the fuck? The closet/confined space strategy works like butter on fucking expert co-op.
All your "increase damage and increased threat of horde" stuff is true, but that doesn't change the fact that you CAN'T FUCKING GET TO THEM. Sure, you may be able to run in, get a lucky swipe, and fuck them up some, but not against a team that is actually using the closet like any competent team employing this strategy would. I honestly don't see the difference.
Unless you are making the erroneous statement that any server on advanced versus automatically has melee slowdown, but I REALLY fucking doubt it.
The argument is also silly. Why not just expert, then? Make it to where they can't get to these melee closets by default. It'll be a race to see which team can make it farther than 100 feet into the level.
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I know I'm late to the discussion, but how exactly does advanced versus make the melee closet strategy not work? What the fuck? The closet/confined space strategy works like butter on fucking expert co-op.
All your "increase damage and increased threat of horde" stuff is true, but that doesn't change the fact that you CAN'T FUCKING GET TO THEM. Sure, you may be able to run in, get a lucky swipe, and fuck them up some, but not against a team that is actually using the closet like any competent team employing this strategy would. I honestly don't see the difference.
Unless you are making the erroneous statement that any server on advanced versus automatically has melee slowdown, but I REALLY fucking doubt it.
The argument is also silly. Why not just expert, then? Make it to where they can't get to these melee closets by default. It'll be a race to see which team can make it farther than 100 feet into the level.
Man, one day you guys will get your head out of your asses and realize the real fun of this game is in campaign.
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Also, I was playing with a guy yesterday on Expert who just ran up to a witch with an SMG, unloaded a clip, reloaded, unloaded another and she dropped. She was up against him the entire time, but he never got hurt. He wouldn't explain anything, but the way he charged up made it seem like some kind of glitch he knew about. What's the deal?
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Also, I was playing with a guy yesterday on Expert who just ran up to a witch with an SMG, unloaded a clip, reloaded, unloaded another and she dropped. She was up against him the entire time, but he never got hurt. He wouldn't explain anything, but the way he charged up made it seem like some kind of glitch he knew about. What's the deal?
Also, I was playing with a guy yesterday on Expert who just ran up to a witch with an SMG, unloaded a clip, reloaded, unloaded another and she dropped. She was up against him the entire time, but he never got hurt. He wouldn't explain anything, but the way he charged up made it seem like some kind of glitch he knew about. What's the deal?
also, holy balls does this game need an "invites only" permission. it sucks trying to tell random friendslist/group people who joined that you already had that slot saved for a buddy.
Yeah, that's something so glaringly obvious I can't understand why they missed it.
So I'm playing this game called Team Fortress 2. For like 4 million years I'm stuck on this map called 2_fort and I can't even play a Pyro.. the server max is 4. I keep having dreams about playing a Pyro.
I'm getting a little bored, but all my friends are like "keep playing.. keep playing, soon you earn achievements and new weapons come out of every orifice.. it's awesome! Just stick with it".
So I do, I keep killing people, I keep capturing intel, I keep capturing points, to earn enough achievements to unlock the fun fucking weapons of the game.
That's bullshit! It took me like four years. I didn't so much as see the Chief of Staff for like a hundred millenia.
Meanwhile, you go back to playing Left 4 Dead and it's like BITCH! INFECTED COMING UP THE HELL RIGHT NOW! SHOOT 'EM IN THE HEAD! SHOOT 'EM! GRAB THE AUTO SHOTGUN! LEAVE THE M16! IT SUCKS! WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO SWITCH WEAPONS TO MELEE? WE DID THAT SHIT FOR YOU! BITCH! BOOMER IN THE ROOM! THE TANK IS ON FIRE! HE KILLED BILL AND LOUIS!
Yeah, so, we play through No Mercy versus, aside from the Finale we get 3-4 tanks, I never get to be one. Survivors are doing their thing, waiting for second tank, it finally says I get to be the tank, hooray.
Except I spawn on a teensy little ledge that's way too small for my fat ass, I get clipped off automatically, and fall to my death. Survivors traipse to the helicopter and rack up over 2k points =(
Has anybody else discovered that single-player versus/Infected sandbox is possible via the following commands?
"sv_cheats 1" + "sb_all_bot_team 1"
(Start a versus game as normal and have at least one person on each side; hitting "m" will allow everybody to switch to the infected. For single player, bring up the console and type "map l4d_vs" to see your available maps; pick a map and you can play solo.)
EDIT: I knew that you could play Infected in the demo, but nobody told me how to get around the ninja patch that requires one player per team. Consider this a PSA for anybody (like me) who was not informed.
Has anybody else discovered that single-player versus/Infected sandbox is possible via the following commands?
"sv_cheats 1" + "sb_all_bot_team 1"
(Start a versus game as normal and have at least one person on each side; hitting "m" will allow everybody to switch to the infected. For single player, bring up the console and type "map l4d_vs" to see your available maps; pick a map and you can play solo.)
Has anybody else discovered that single-player versus/Infected sandbox is possible via the following commands?
"sv_cheats 1" + "sb_all_bot_team 1"
(Start a versus game as normal and have at least one person on each side; hitting "m" will allow everybody to switch to the infected. For single player, bring up the console and type "map l4d_vs" to see your available maps; pick a map and you can play solo.)
I had the greatest pub experience last night. Three random strangers (all the steam group servers were full and only a few Armadeaddon players were active, so I had no choice).
We played Blood Harvest on Expert, and it just clicked. We were a fucking unstoppable zombie-killing force, healing each other, covering while reviving an incapped player, flanking and using explosives wisely. Everyone had a good-quality mic, and we were conversing tactics, shouting ideas over gunfire, and generally giving good-spirited commands that we would all follow to the letter.
Hah I got Barf Bagged by aiming my vomit stream right at the exit to the ladder on the roof in the No Mercy finale as all four climbed right into it. And yet not a single zombie got to them.
Gah. Smokers suck unless they're on even or higher levels than the survivors. Tried to tongue people off the roof from below on No Mercy finale, to no avail.
Smokers are amazing at that section of No Mercy right after the gas station and lift. You can waste a whole lot of their time and possibly even wipe them by dragging them out of the windows or off the roof. For some reason that section just spawns a whole ton of zombies for a really long time after the lift is hit.
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I had the greatest pub experience last night. Three random strangers (all the steam group servers were full and only a few Armadeaddon players were active, so I had no choice).
We played Blood Harvest on Expert, and it just clicked. We were a fucking unstoppable zombie-killing force, healing each other, covering while reviving an incapped player, flanking and using explosives wisely. Everyone had a good-quality mic, and we were conversing tactics, shouting ideas over gunfire, and generally giving good-spirited commands that we would all follow to the letter.
We ended up friending each other.
This game is fucking awesome.
I've had the same thing happen two or three times, and have around eight new steam friends because of it. For all that everyone on here bitches about how pubs are horrible, I haven't had any really bad experiences and have had some great ones.
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edited December 2008
I've only found good times with co-op in this game. I've met more awesome people playing this game than just about anything else.
The exception of course is in vs. But even then, there was nothing funnier than watching a safe room shoot out between the survivors, inevitably ending before they even left the saferoom with 4 incapacitated survivors and an instant win. It was utterly beautiful because the two players in question carried on their feud for the rest of the campaign and we'd watch these battles go forth (inevitably with bots) until one eventually ragequit.
Blood Harvest finale: lame finale, or lamest finale?
See my post above for the lamest finale.
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DomhnallMinty D. Vision!ScotlandRegistered Userregular
edited December 2008
The lead up to the finale is great on Blood Harvest but I guess the actual thing fails because you're essentially told to defend a single room. You could defend the barn but then that's got one proper entrance and another one they need to climb over.
To be a real finale you need a minigun.
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Blood Harvest finale: lame finale, or lamest finale?
Holding out in a farmhouse in the middle of a deserted cornfield would have been a lot cooler if the place didn't have more holes in the walls than would be structurally possible by the midpoint of the fight.
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All your "increase damage and increased threat of horde" stuff is true, but that doesn't change the fact that you CAN'T FUCKING GET TO THEM. Sure, you may be able to run in, get a lucky swipe, and fuck them up some, but not against a team that is actually using the closet like any competent team employing this strategy would. I honestly don't see the difference.
Unless you are making the erroneous statement that any server on advanced versus automatically has melee slowdown, but I REALLY fucking doubt it.
The argument is also silly. Why not just expert, then? Make it to where they can't get to these melee closets by default. It'll be a race to see which team can make it farther than 100 feet into the level.
Man, one day you guys will get your head out of your asses and realize the real fun of this game is in campaign.
Exactly. I've had some fun in Vs, but co-op campaigns have resulted in so much more awesomeness.
Witch glitch!
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Well that explains that. Lame.
Without telling anyone.
It will be hilarious.
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But I'm pretty sure they'll be an announcement.
Good show.
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Yeah, that's something so glaringly obvious I can't understand why they missed it.
I'm getting a little bored, but all my friends are like "keep playing.. keep playing, soon you earn achievements and new weapons come out of every orifice.. it's awesome! Just stick with it".
So I do, I keep killing people, I keep capturing intel, I keep capturing points, to earn enough achievements to unlock the fun fucking weapons of the game.
That's bullshit! It took me like four years. I didn't so much as see the Chief of Staff for like a hundred millenia.
Meanwhile, you go back to playing Left 4 Dead and it's like BITCH! INFECTED COMING UP THE HELL RIGHT NOW! SHOOT 'EM IN THE HEAD! SHOOT 'EM! GRAB THE AUTO SHOTGUN! LEAVE THE M16! IT SUCKS! WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO SWITCH WEAPONS TO MELEE? WE DID THAT SHIT FOR YOU! BITCH! BOOMER IN THE ROOM! THE TANK IS ON FIRE! HE KILLED BILL AND LOUIS!
SHOOT 'EM IN THE HEAD! SHOOT 'EM IN THE HEAD!
...
Yeah, I have way too much spare time.
Except I spawn on a teensy little ledge that's way too small for my fat ass, I get clipped off automatically, and fall to my death. Survivors traipse to the helicopter and rack up over 2k points =(
Other then that, good game!
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"sv_cheats 1" + "sb_all_bot_team 1"
(Start a versus game as normal and have at least one person on each side; hitting "m" will allow everybody to switch to the infected. For single player, bring up the console and type "map l4d_vs" to see your available maps; pick a map and you can play solo.)
EDIT: I knew that you could play Infected in the demo, but nobody told me how to get around the ninja patch that requires one player per team. Consider this a PSA for anybody (like me) who was not informed.
Yeah, that was discovered in the demo.
You just had to shoot a man down didn't you?
We played Blood Harvest on Expert, and it just clicked. We were a fucking unstoppable zombie-killing force, healing each other, covering while reviving an incapped player, flanking and using explosives wisely. Everyone had a good-quality mic, and we were conversing tactics, shouting ideas over gunfire, and generally giving good-spirited commands that we would all follow to the letter.
We ended up friending each other.
This game is fucking awesome.
First the AI fucked us over totally. Then it fucked them over totally.
Team 1: Open safe room door. Turn corner. Witch. One down, tank spawns. Party wipe.
Team 2: Open safe room door. Tank is already there. Dumpster flies at survivors. Party wipe.
Team 1 score: 6
Team 2 score: 5
Good times were had by all.
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I've had the same thing happen two or three times, and have around eight new steam friends because of it. For all that everyone on here bitches about how pubs are horrible, I haven't had any really bad experiences and have had some great ones.
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The exception of course is in vs. But even then, there was nothing funnier than watching a safe room shoot out between the survivors, inevitably ending before they even left the saferoom with 4 incapacitated survivors and an instant win. It was utterly beautiful because the two players in question carried on their feud for the rest of the campaign and we'd watch these battles go forth (inevitably with bots) until one eventually ragequit.
It was awesome.
With no AI director it should be pretty easy to get those expert achievements!
Having a server crash, on the last tank of the finale, on expert, with everyone alive and in green health.
I came.
I was in a random vs pub the other night that was like 178-190 at the end of the third map.
Raoul Duke was there.
I don't think I'll ever join a pub vs again.
EDIT: It was all your fault Butterfly.
See my post above for the lamest finale.
To be a real finale you need a minigun.
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Holding out in a farmhouse in the middle of a deserted cornfield would have been a lot cooler if the place didn't have more holes in the walls than would be structurally possible by the midpoint of the fight.
And you should be able to sneak up on them and tip them over.