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    MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Craig doesn't live up to "what it is to be Bond" if you take the sum totality of all of the Bond movies, with all of the crappy movies included, as defining "what it is to be Bond".

    The problem is that shit like half of Roger Moore's films, and Tim Dalton's films, and the later Brosnan films made "what it is to be Bond" essentially campy crap.

    So Craig is awesome because his Bond chucks out all that shit

    I always considered what it is to be Bond is the whole suave, charming, sophisticated spy-thing. Which Craig isn't. Compared to Connery and Brosnan, he's not as suave, charming, or sophisticated. Perhaps not so much a problem with the actor as with the character in Casino Royale, but it's even written in that he wears his suit with disdain.

    And I'll say again, Craig's Bond is more of a thug than any previous Bond. 007 is a lot of things, but a brute he is not.
    Considering these movies are sort of origin type stories for Bond, I don't mind his brute-ishness

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    MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    yay for stilist and his design related links

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2008
    He didn't make it. His death was one of the most ghastly and agonizing things I've ever witnessed- and I've seen suicide attacks. I haven't slept in 40 hours.

    Thanks for the well wishes earlier, all.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited November 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    I love it when you wash jeans and they are all snug after they come out of the dryer

    :^:

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah I always thought suave and charming for bond. But to be truthful my experience is all Bronsan.

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    MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    qua qua quadruple post? jesus where is everyone

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    SenjutsuSenjutsu thot enthusiast Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    novel Bond and early Connery Bond are considerably rougher, and more misogynistic, than any of the later outings

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm sorry Organichu. I can't even begin to imagine the difficulty of coping with that so I hardly have the words to say in condolence.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    All of the presentations in tonight's class utilized either power point or index cards.

    I need a gimmick that will ensure a high grade, and I have one week to prepare it!

    Is this a college class? Use a presentation board. Alternatively, whenever I did a speech or presentation on operant conditioning, I carried around party-size bags of M&M's, chose a random behavior, and conditioned the audience.

    Actually one of the presentations started with the student handing out Reeses cookies.

    No attempt at conditioning the audience for any specific behaviour, though.

    Well, my point was always to illustrate just how ineffective it is for certain applications. If I picked a behavior like hand raising, I'd have to intially award behaviors that were so generally approaching the desired behavior that they gave almost no indication of what I was actually rewarding.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    Alecthar wrote: »
    Sarksus wrote: »
    All of the presentations in tonight's class utilized either power point or index cards.

    I need a gimmick that will ensure a high grade, and I have one week to prepare it!

    Include movie and television clips at significant points in your presentation, like use them to highlight salient topic groups.

    I was thinking about very short videos.

    I was also planning on filling any powerpoint presentation I do with just images, instead of pasting an essay on ten slides and then rearranging them with neat transitions.

    This was a point of the guy speaking on effective powerpoint: sometimes you don't need words at all

    his example was a powerpoint for a case in which a girl was killed by a drunk driver (or something like that). the slides he had were just pictures of this beautiful teenage girl in the prime of her life, one after the other, and he clicked through them slowly in silence.

    I mean if I'm already engaging the audience verbally I don't need them reading the same exact thing on the screen.

    Also thank you for the interesting link, Stilist.

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    Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    Craig doesn't live up to "what it is to be Bond" if you take the sum totality of all of the Bond movies, with all of the crappy movies included, as defining "what it is to be Bond".

    The problem is that shit like half of Roger Moore's films, and Tim Dalton's films, and the later Brosnan films made "what it is to be Bond" essentially campy crap.

    So Craig is awesome because his Bond chucks out all that shit

    I always considered what it is to be Bond is the whole suave, charming, sophisticated spy-thing. Which Craig isn't. Compared to Connery and Brosnan, he's not as suave, charming, or sophisticated. Perhaps not so much a problem with the actor as with the character in Casino Royale, but it's even written in that he wears his suit with disdain.

    And I'll say again, Craig's Bond is more of a thug than any previous Bond. 007 is a lot of things, but a brute he is not.
    Considering these movies are sort of origin type stories for Bond, I don't mind his brute-ishness

    Not to mention his motivation this time out. And it was made pretty clear in Casino Royale that this Bond doesn't actually care about randomly dipping the wick with every woman that blushes at his gorgeously toned abs.

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    poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Have any of you seen the new BBC show Survivors?

    I watched it last night and really enjoyed it.

    It's a fairly realistic non-horror apocalypse story - a plague kills almost everyone and then people struggle to survive.

    Got the guy who people say will be the new Doctor Who in it too.

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    WashWash Sweet Christmas Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Senjutsu wrote: »
    novel Bond and early Connery Bond are considerably rougher, and more misogynistic, than any of the later outings

    Fact remains that the character portrayed in the movies up until Craig, with few exceptions, is different than the character portrayed by Craig. A reinvention of the Bond franchise was necessary, but drastic. Craig's Bond differs too much from what I, as a longtime fan of the series, have come to consider 'what is Bond'. Novel Bond is irrelevant; Craig's too different from what matters - movie Bond - and what the franchise has crafted up 'till now to be one of the best.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    What I like about this current Bond is that he looks like he is the type of person that could actually kill people for a living.

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    LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    poshniallo wrote: »
    Have any of you seen the new BBC show Survivors?

    I watched it last night and really enjoyed it.

    It's a fairly realistic non-horror apocalypse story - a plague kills almost everyone and then people struggle to survive.

    Got the guy who people say will be the new Doctor Who in it too.

    I was anoyed that all the family members were killed off, didn't make much sense to me (I would've thought that the immunity would be genetic right, at least some of the time your kids would get it?) and it seemed like it was played for cheap tragedy points. As well as the fact that they all met in the last five minutes, but apart from that it was pretty enjoyable. I'll certainly give the next episode a try, as it seems like it's got more plot.

    Man you'd be suprised Inquis, I've seen some pretty unassuming Royal Marines (old house is about a minutes walk from a base).

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'll take this new "not-bond" Bond over the utter shit they had Bronsan doing in the last couple of bond movies he was in.

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    poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Leitner wrote: »
    poshniallo wrote: »
    Have any of you seen the new BBC show Survivors?

    I watched it last night and really enjoyed it.

    It's a fairly realistic non-horror apocalypse story - a plague kills almost everyone and then people struggle to survive.

    Got the guy who people say will be the new Doctor Who in it too.

    I was anoyed that all the family members were killed off, didn't make much sense to me (I would've thought that the immunity would be genetic right, at least some of the time your kids would get it?) and it seemed like it was played for cheap tragedy points. As well as the fact that they all met in the last five minutes, but apart from that it was pretty enjoyable. I'll certainly give the next episode a try, as it seems like it's got more plot.

    I liked that
    The people who seemed like they would be the heroes - the two from Dr Who for example - just died. It was a nice touch to have your apparent POV characters die of the plague. Just a touch of bereavement for the viewers.

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    LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah that was a pretty good touch, especially
    the chick who plays Martha. I was certain she'd be one of 'em.

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    poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The few reallly astonishingly tough professional soldiers (SEALs, ex-SAS, a couple of paratroopers) I've known have been quite boring people. Especially a fighter pilot I knew - I guess you don't get the expensive plane and the ability to stupid us into WW3 without being very predictable.

    But I love Craig and would have his babies.

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    stiliststilist Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Brainslip. Poops.

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Late brosan was one step away from an Austin Powers movie

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    poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Leitner wrote: »
    Yeah that was a pretty good touch, especially
    the chick who plays Martha. I was certain she'd be one of 'em.
    And since she isn't a very good actor, I'm double-happy.

    I was impressed by Paterson Joseph - all the characters I've seen him do are quite different from each other. He seems to be a proper actor, like Edward Norton. Not one of those 'isn't my screen persona awesome, let me reprise it indefinitely' types.

    Hi ho hi ho

    It's off to work I go....D:

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    Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Oh hey stilist is back!!!!!

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    poshniallo wrote: »
    The few reallly astonishingly tough professional soldiers (SEALs, ex-SAS, a couple of paratroopers) I've known have been quite boring people. Especially a fighter pilot I knew - I guess you don't get the expensive plane and the ability to stupid us into WW3 without being very predictable.

    But I love Craig and would have his babies.

    I have to imagine that you really have to like, desensitize yourself to a lot of stuff to make yourself into the kind of killing machine a really tough professional soldier is.

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    WashWash Sweet Christmas Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Brosnan was a great Bond in bad Bond movies.
    Craig's a very good Bond in very good Bond movies.
    Connery was a great Bond in good Bond movies.

    The top three (not in order), as far as I'm concerned.

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    LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I really like him as an actor, though it can at times be hard to take him seriously as I associate him so strongly with his work in The Peep Show.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited November 2008
    Fringe's openings are always fun.

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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Someone on tv just said "I didn't think that gasoline exploded"

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Someone on tv just said "I didn't think that gasoline exploded"

    Isn't gasoline's explosiveness vastly exaggerated? Like, doesn't it take a rather specific amount in the air to actually be explosive?

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    DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Someone on tv just said "I didn't think that gasoline exploded"

    o_O

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    Fringe's openings are always fun.

    I knew I was forgetting something.

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    DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Someone on tv just said "I didn't think that gasoline exploded"

    Isn't gasoline's explosiveness vastly exaggerated?

    Ever seen some explode?

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The High Speed Rail thread reminds me of the Sprawl, the high concentration of urban development that stretches unbroken across the entire east coast in Gibson's Sprawl trilogy. You can enter the sprawl at one end and take a train to the other end in very little time.

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    DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Someone on tv just said "I didn't think that gasoline exploded"

    Isn't gasoline's explosiveness vastly exaggerated? Like, doesn't it take a rather specific amount in the air to actually be explosive?

    It's the vapors not so much the liquid. And they disperse quite quickly.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Ever seen some explode?

    I've seen people drop lit matches into gasoline and have nothing happen.

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    stiliststilist Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I thought gas didn’t explode, and shooting a gas tank wouldn’t do anything since it’s actually the fumes that burn.

    Maybe I’m wrong?

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    Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I kinda like Beck.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    stilist wrote: »
    I thought gas didn’t explode, and shooting a gas tank wouldn’t do anything since it’s actually the fumes that burn.

    Maybe I’m wrong?

    You're correct. It takes a pretty specific ratio of fumes to air to be explosive too, not something that will happen in an outdoor environment, generally.

    Shooting tracer rounds into a gas tank didn't even cause one to explode, though there was some minor flames.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Man I can't remember the last time I had to push the Report button.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Man I can't remember the last time I had to push the Report button.

    Shoon?

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