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X360 vs. PS3: Which one is better at DVD-upscaling?
elkatas
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Okay. Situation is this. I'm in the need of new upscaling DVD-player, and I just remembered that I could buy HD-console to do the job. So... how well they do their job? Which one is better value? Remember that I'm not that interested about games, only media capabilities. Furthermore, Blu-Ray isn't deciding factor, as I think I will start to buy them in 2-3 years or so. Mainly because BR-movies are still tad too expensive, and bargain bins are lacking. And please, only serious, technical answers.
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Or you could just save yourself a few hundred bucks and get a good dedicated DVD upscaler.
I don't think Xbox upscales.
Oh it certainly does, that is sure. But I need comparision here.
The problem is that good upscaling, HDMI equipped DVD-players are quite expensive here. HD-consoles, in the other hand, are relatively inexpensive.
Trust me when I say, after personal experience with the 360 over component (not upscaled) and the PS3 (upscaled), that the PS3 looks waaaay better.
I honestly didn't believe in upscaling until I saw it in action, because I believed you couldn't magically make low res images look better. But I was completely wrong, it makes a world of difference. I can still tell the difference between upscaled versus blu-ray in most case, but the gap narrows by alot when you switch to an upscale player.
Also, blu-ray really should be a deciding factor man, it looks amazing. I rent them over netflix mostly, but the once and while when I pick up a movie (wall-e, dark knight), I pick it up on blu-ray. On amazon, the prices are quite reasonable for a superior looking movie. If you interested in a system for movie playback, I couldn't understand not taking blu-ray into account.
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It'll also have a much smaller form factor.
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Anyways, my PS3 looks great with DVDs. I'll compare it to my 360 when I get home.
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Really? When does this happen?
My PS3 plays any dvd I throw at it, even ones that won't play in my computer or my (abandoned) set-top dvd player.
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If your choice is definitely between a PS3 and 360 and your only concern is quality, go with the PS3. I've used them both, and the PS3 looked far better to me. Here's the dirty little secret of upscaling, though: every HDTV has a built-in upscaler. It has to. All upscaling is is a component saying, "I have this 480p image, and I need to display it on a non-480p TV. Let's make it bigger." If your DVD player doesn't do it, then your TV has to. And it's not always the case that your DVD player will be able to upscale better than your TV. With my current TV-DVD set up (a Sony Bravia LCoS TV and a PS3), I can't tell the difference between the PS3s upscaling feature turned on or off, which means the upscaler in the TV is about as good.
For starters, see if you can find some information about your TV's upscaler before you drop hundreds of dollars on something you might not need. If you do feel you need it, and if it's really the case that $70 DVD players are more expensive than $400 game consoles in whatever crazy country you're in, then go with the PS3. Unless someone who's done the 360/PS3 comparison in the last 6 months wants to vouch for the 360's quality - when last I used mine, I was dissatisfied with it, upscaling or no.
This is probably why my monitor chokes.
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Your problem actually sounds like a DHCP handshaking problem. If you're exporting via component and trying to do upscaling, it likely won't work - upscaling generally requires an HDMI or VGA connection. It notices that your connection is component, and kills it after a split second.
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I live in Finland. We don't really get those budget range models here, only better ones. When you add 22 percent VAT, it is not really that surprising that HDMI-equipped DVD-player typically costs around 120-150 euros. Which is only 30 euros less than X360 arcade pack. Sure, I could import budget model from bigger markets, but after shipping, custom duties and VAT, it wouldn't be that budget anymore. If I purchase console, there is fair chance that I will buy at least one or two games for it, which makes it relatively better investment. Not to mention that I could easily get rid off current bundled games, and save even more money. With PS3, I could get dirt cheap blu-ray player in addition solid upscaling DVD-player.
Oh, my Toshiba has very good upscaler (it was main reason why I bought it), but I want even better* scaling for DVDs. I'm currently using Xbox Media Center for upscaling, and it does do good job. But I would still like to have upscaling player with HDMI, because Regza handles those sources lil' better than component. I'm just little knitpicky on these matters.
* For 480p games, it is more than enough.
EDIT: Clarified what I meant
There is a requirement - god knows why - that upscaling not be allowed over non-HDCP (thanks, Barrakketh) compliant connections, such as component. Most devices will not allow an upscaled signal to be transmitted over component, even if they transmit other signals in HD just fine. Your PS3 can probably send out 1080p signals from games just fine, but it's likely refusing to send over an upscaled DVD signal. To upscale, you need to use the HDMI output.
Have you tried turning off upscaling? If you do that, and you can suddenly start watching DVDs, then it was an HDCP handshaking issue. If not, then it was something else that just has identical symptoms to an HDCP handshaking issue. I had such a problem myself earlier with a different device, which is why I know what it looks like.
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