Why are no websites taking pre-orders on AC Complete yet?
I need to secure that shit so I don't miss out (and get my goddamn FFXIII demo)
The demo isn't even confirmed for the US yet. For all we know it's a Japanese exclusive. AC: Complete won't be getting a simultaneous release either, so if you're expecting early next year... you're screwed.
At a guess it's going to come much later or not at all. While FF13 is being translated to English as they go, I know for a fact that they've done no actual voice recording, whereas they've already started in Japanese. They won't release a demo that isn't fully localized, so..
Why are no websites taking pre-orders on AC Complete yet?
I need to secure that shit so I don't miss out (and get my goddamn FFXIII demo)
The demo isn't even confirmed for the US yet. For all we know it's a Japanese exclusive. AC: Complete won't be getting a simultaneous release either, so if you're expecting early next year... you're screwed.
At a guess it's going to come much later or not at all. While FF13 is being translated to English as they go, I know for a fact that they've done no actual voice recording, whereas they've already started in Japanese. They won't release a demo that isn't fully localized, so..
I'm almost hoping that they won't release Complete here, then we might get the demo on PSN or Live or something instead.
Versus XIII is like how I expected FFX to be. Now that's a next-gen FF.
I don't really get the love for this "world of magic, swords and limos" in a city - and i quote the devs here - "like new york"
I want Final Fantasy to look like this:
and this:
Not this 'almost real' stuff with skyscrapers and limos and stuff. Obviously we know very little about the game right now, but most of the interviews they do they're talking about how they want Versus to be a more 'real' FF and all this stuff. Bleh. There's enough of that in the HD gen already.
Damnit, no gameplay in either of the new FF13 game trailers.
Well, I'm not really surprised, but I'd really like to see how the games actually play before even starting to decide whether I want either or not.
Although it suddenly occurs to me that I don't even know what kind of game Versus is, because that trailer certainly told me nothing about it.
EDIT: Also I agree with APZonerunner. It's kind of sad to me how they've been systematically divorcing the "fantasy" from Final Fantasy since...well I guess technically FF6, but it's been more pronounced since X. They kind of dipped back towards fantasy with FFIX, which is probably why that's my favorite PSX FF. Eh.
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I accepted that old-school FF died with FFIX. It sucks, but I'd rather they finish that style strong then have it turn mediocre. I like the new-school look V13 has going so far.
I wasn't a big fan of FFX. It wasn't bad, but nowhere near the PS1 series standards.
Damnit, no gameplay in either of the new FF13 game trailers.
Well, I'm not really surprised, but I'd really like to see how the games actually play before even starting to decide whether I want either or not.
Although it suddenly occurs to me that I don't even know what kind of game Versus is, because that trailer certainly told me nothing about it.
EDIT: Also I agree with APZonerunner. It's kind of sad to me how they've been systematically divorcing the "fantasy" from Final Fantasy since...well I guess technically FF6, but it's been more pronounced since X. They kind of dipped back towards fantasy with FFIX, which is probably why that's my favorite PSX FF. Eh.
I think we can say that 7 and 9 are old school. 7 was about right, I think, too. It was the 'right' mix between the two - I can fully imagine that the world of FF7 is where the world of FF6 was headed in a few thousand years, really. 8's a weird one, because it has some wonderfully stylised locations like the Gardens (at least from the outside, inside they were pretty normal though) and Esthar, but also some stunningly normal locations. A test bed for what was to come, I guess.
As for Versus, I'm not buying into Square-Enix's bullshit anymore with that. I'll wait until we actually know what it plays like. The fact of the matter is they were announced fucking years ago and apart from some pre-rendered (and in the case of normal 13, mixed prerendered/live) trailers we know nothing. We've also had a few pretty screens, but they've all been from cutscenes, where higher poly models are used and stuff. We really have no idea what either game will look like in actual gameplay situations.
Part of the problem with FF fans is that Square can release a CG trailer and all the fans salivate on themselves and scream "do want!" and then when the game releases it sucks fucking ass. See Dirge of Cerberus, which had awesome CG work done by the Advent Children team. For months all they showed was CG of Vincent and Yuffie and the parts of the game when all the crew are back together, and then when the game released it was fucking horrible.
The CG is a nice bonus, and as an FF fan myself I love it - hell, I have a signed, framed Crisis Core CG art of Zack on the wall in my gaming space - but it just doesn't build hype for me anymore.
That trailer was just horn blowing - look at all the big names we've got - look at the pretty CG - and some nice (but samey, very Kingdom Hearts) music from Shimoura. It's cool to see, but it doesn't really do anything for me to tell me anything, really.
afaik the scenes in the Versus XIII trailer where you see the protagonist walking around in a suit and the girl standing there in the white dress are in-game. I remember them showing up as screenshots a while ago labeled as in-game graphics.
Also a bunch of stuff at the end of the XIII trailer is supposed to be in-game.
I mean, think what you will, but this is Squeenix so I believe it.
afaik the scenes in the Versus XIII trailer where you see the protagonist walking around in a suit and the girl standing there in the white dress are in-game. I remember them showing up as screenshots a while ago labeled as in-game graphics.
Also a bunch of stuff at the end of the XIII trailer is supposed to be in-game.
I mean, think what you will, but this is Squeenix so I believe it.
Well, my point still stands:
We've also had a few pretty screens, but they've all been from cutscenes, where higher poly models are used and stuff.
So we still have no idea how good the game'll look in actual gameplay, how smooth it'll run etc. It's difficult to tell until they actually stop with the bullshit and just show us gameplay, because then we'll know how it looks, how well it runs, and most importantly how it actually plays.
I'm a bit of a skeptic, but don't get me wrong, I love Square-Enix. I used to run an FF fansite, even! They're still good to me because of that, they still send me stuff and keep me updated and invite me to events and stuff. They're a fine company; the UK guys are wonderful - but they just have really shitty methods of releasing information, drip feeding it to the public and showing nothing but CG. If they've got nothing real-time to show, they should've just shut the fuck up and not announced it until they had a bit more to go off.
The in-game cutscenes don't necessarily have to be higher-poly models. Naughty Dog, for example, uses the same models in cutscenes and gameplay for Uncharted.
Of course Square most likely has a different method. I haven't seen any of their 360 stuff so I dunno if they're still doing that for sure, though it made sense in the PS1/2 days. If they are still doing that... eh. The technology's gotten to the point where they don't need to, and they should try to dig deeper into the hardware.
The in-game cutscenes don't necessarily have to be higher-poly models. Naughty Dog, for example, uses the same models in cutscenes and gameplay for Uncharted.
Of course Square most likely has a different method. I haven't seen any of their 360 stuff so I dunno if they're still doing that for sure, though it made sense in the PS1/2 days. If they are still doing that... eh. The technology's gotten to the point where they don't need to, and they should try to dig deeper into the hardware.
Either way holy shit pretty </3D geek>
Well, the 360 titles they've released so far definitely use this method. Some of the info we've seen released for FF13 suggest this is likely, too. The fact Square-Enix continues to use CG while more and more developers abandon it and just do in-engine cutscenes shows their attitude to that area, though. I imagine that is still how things are working, though. Mainly stuff like the hair we've seen and the clothing - if it's as interactive and environment sensitive as it appears - at an almost Advent Children level - it's really gonna be just impossible in a real-time engine where there's a lot of movement that is completely unscripted.
The CG is pretty, and I'm a 3D geek too, but if I just wanted to watch pretty CG, I'd go to Pixar instead. I want a game with actual gameplay too. Unless Square gives up on gaming, but we all know where that leads...
Why are no websites taking pre-orders on AC Complete yet?
I need to secure that shit so I don't miss out (and get my goddamn FFXIII demo)
The demo isn't even confirmed for the US yet. For all we know it's a Japanese exclusive. AC: Complete won't be getting a simultaneous release either, so if you're expecting early next year... you're screwed.
At a guess it's going to come much later or not at all. While FF13 is being translated to English as they go, I know for a fact that they've done no actual voice recording, whereas they've already started in Japanese. They won't release a demo that isn't fully localized, so..
I wasn't aware that the movie was even coming out in the US since nothing has been said about it.
I'm wondering why I can't pre-order the Japanese version yet. Play-asia and the like don't even have a listing for it.
Why are no websites taking pre-orders on AC Complete yet?
I need to secure that shit so I don't miss out (and get my goddamn FFXIII demo)
The demo isn't even confirmed for the US yet. For all we know it's a Japanese exclusive. AC: Complete won't be getting a simultaneous release either, so if you're expecting early next year... you're screwed.
At a guess it's going to come much later or not at all. While FF13 is being translated to English as they go, I know for a fact that they've done no actual voice recording, whereas they've already started in Japanese. They won't release a demo that isn't fully localized, so..
I have no doubt AC:Complete will come over here. The first one did good enough that NA got a double dip (LE), and Sony just loves showing off that Blu Ray technology. Heck, one of the first Blu Ray ads had a movie montage of characters, and AC Tifa was thrown in there before ACC was even confirmed.
The question is when it'll come out. Sony's DVD releases of "foreign" films has always pissed me off, like the year plus wait for Godzilla Final Wars, and the inexplicable 8 month wait for AC dubbed (no seriously, I'll never rest without knowing why it took so fucking long, and with REDUCED extras). It would be a double-fuck if ACC somehow takes as long, but I'm hoping that won't be the case.
And I'm fairly certain they'll leave the FFXIII demo un-dubbed, with only the text translated to english, ala the MGS demos.
Oh, and since this is now a general FF thread, how about adding my FFXIII blog post to the opening too?
I may be in the minority here but I really like sci-fi FF. I find the medieval stuff in the earlier ones too bland and... I dunno... westernized? It's like they just took D&D environments and items and slapped on a crazy Japanese story about crystals or what-have-you (this is more for the pre-6 stuff, also I never played 9 so it is not included in this observation).
I think when they throw in their crazy sci-fi/steampunk/[x]punk embellishments, that's when the worlds really start to shine vs. other RPGs. I'm liking the ultra-modern-with-fantasy look that VS13 has going for it. We sort of got a taste of it in VII/Crisis Core with the Shinra building and such, and it looks like they're taking that a couple steps further.
Which is fine by me, since VII is my favourite of the series. (X is a close second, Crisis Core ties if we count spinoffs).
Damn, it seems the message for ON THE WAY TO A SMILE was just an announcement that the stories will be released as a proper novel alongside ACC. They could have at least made it a manga or something. I would have loved scenes like the big funeral, drunk Cloud, or Tifa asking if he loved her to be adapted to some sort of visual medium.
I'm mostly a fan of the medieval setting, but I never liked any FF plot that featured crystals or a single crystal as the ultimate source of power. It just seemed too convenient to say "oh, this purely unguarded crystal powers the entire world. Smash it and it's the end of everything." I know they still add a crystal into most FFs as tradition of sorts, but I'm more into the Big Bad coming up with his own plan to rule the world, or end it.
Of course FFVI had a rather silly deux ex machina too, with three statues that can end the world if shifted slightly out of order, but the build up to that event was much more epic than exploring some dungeon and watching a crystal shatter.
Of course FFVI had a rather silly deux ex machina too, with three statues that can end the world if shifted slightly out of order, but the build up to that event was much more epic than exploring some dungeon and watching a crystal shatter.
Maybe not all that ridiculous. Maybe. The buildup was pretty badass. And I still love the part where
Shadow was trying to crush Kefka between them.
I felt like the statues were important, but they didn't beat you on the head about it over and over and over.
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Even so, it's still a bit silly that anyone could just tip those statues over, and suddenly it's the end of the world. Even the crystals took time for the earth to start breaking down.
But I always found it a bit ironic how
it was revealed that Kefka wasn't using the statue's power correctly, and was probably only acquiring a fraction of their true power. If he wasn't looney, maybe he would have achieved true godhood.
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Even so, it's still a bit silly that anyone could just tip those statues over, and suddenly it's the end of the world. Even the crystals took time for the earth to start breaking down.
But I always found it a bit ironic how
it was revealed that Kefka wasn't using the statue's power correctly, and was probably only acquiring a fraction of their true power. If he wasn't looney, maybe he would have achieved true godhood.
EDIT: Green haired Terra owns Blonde haired Terra any day of the week.
Even so, it's still a bit silly that anyone could just tip those statues over, and suddenly it's the end of the world. Even the crystals took time for the earth to start breaking down.
But I always found it a bit ironic how
it was revealed that Kefka wasn't using the statue's power correctly, and was probably only acquiring a fraction of their true power. If he wasn't looney, maybe he would have achieved true godhood.
EDIT: Green haired Terra owns Blonde haired Terra any day of the week.
V13's trailer makes me want it so bad. I wasn't interested before, but now...holy shit.
And since this is a general FF thread, I'll just say that, with the glaring exception of Final Fantasy IX, I've been satisfied with every main FF game I've played (which is all except FFIII), and even some of the offshoots (Crisis Core, FF Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon).
My favorite will always be FFVII, and I will eternally hope for the FFVII remake that may never happen. However, I enjoy the world of FFX the most. And the art style of FFX still gets me to this day, I love the aquatic feel.
V13's trailer makes me want it so bad. I wasn't interested before, but now...holy shit.
And since this is a general FF thread, I'll just say that, with the glaring exception of Final Fantasy IX, I've been satisfied with every main FF game I've played (which is all except FFIII), and even some of the offshoots (Crisis Core, FF Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon).
My favorite will always be FFVII, and I will eternally hope for the FFVII remake that may never happen. However, I enjoy the world of FFX the most. And the art style of FFX still gets me to this day, I love the aquatic feel.
If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you like IX?
Quite a few people I've spoken to didn't like IX for some reason. I loved it personally. I think some people didn't like the more Chibi style of the characters or the world.
V13's trailer makes me want it so bad. I wasn't interested before, but now...holy shit.
And since this is a general FF thread, I'll just say that, with the glaring exception of Final Fantasy IX, I've been satisfied with every main FF game I've played (which is all except FFIII), and even some of the offshoots (Crisis Core, FF Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon).
My favorite will always be FFVII, and I will eternally hope for the FFVII remake that may never happen. However, I enjoy the world of FFX the most. And the art style of FFX still gets me to this day, I love the aquatic feel.
If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you like IX?
I didn't really care about the story, as it became a mad rush from town to town right after said town had been destroyed. Godawful character design, and it seems like they went out of the way to make me hate every single character in the process. Zidane is a prick. Steiner has a one-track mind on protecting the Princess. The Princess herself is kind of interesting at first, I suppose, though once she finds out about her origins nothing really comes of it. Vivi is a whiny little cunt and even when he "toughens up" later on I still found him unbearable. Eiko, Amarant, and especially fucking Quina who joins your party simply to eat; I just don't see how anyone can find these characters likable.
The graphics were a downgrade from VIII. Yes, I get what they were going for with the art style. But if that's what they were really going for, they should have done the game in 2D because as it is the deformed characters simply don't look right. I think this is more of a hardware problem than anything, as FFXI and XII both have super-deformed characters that at least look decent.
The battle system, even at the highest speed setting, was atrociously slow, and the random battles occurred more than ever (the Ice Cavern and a few other locales still give me Vietnam-style flashbacks, and that's with avoiding the wind flurries).
Tetra Master is a joke.
That's not to say the game was a total waste. There were a lot of little things I liked about. The Ability system was fucking excellent. The ability to use Tents in battles was welcome (though it doesn't really make sense), and Mognet was a cool little way of saving your game. Chocobo Hot and Cold is one of the best FF minigames yet. The soundtrack is quite stellar. And while I don't like the art style as rendered in-game, all of the CG cutscenes are mesmerizing.
EDIT: Also there is a fucking rat dance ritual, that not only hurt my brain, but became completely useless in the context of the story as it did no fucking good whatsoever.
Referring to a character like Vivi as a "cunt" is pretty spiteful; You gave reasons, but I wouldn't exactly call them "justified", aside from a couple points (slow battle speed).
Referring to a character like Vivi as a "cunt" is pretty spiteful; You gave reasons, but I wouldn't exactly call them "justified", aside from a couple points (slow battle speed).
He cries all the time and bitches and moans about his existence.
Also, Vivi represents a part of a larger idea of fiction that I particularly hate: the question of whether something created, like a robot, can be truly "alive" and treated as such. Short answer: No. Stop making fiction about it.
See, my opinion differs quite a bit from yours because I thought all the characters were great. I can see how you can feel that way about a lot of them, though. If you don't feel sorry for Vivi then he'd seem annoying. Or if you don't like the dynamic of Steiner trying his hardest to put off the realization that the queen he serves has become evil then his character could come off more as frustrating than anything. Personally I felt that, despite having the most cartoony characters of any game in the series, they all actually developed along the course of the game and had wonderfully established personalities. They were all characters, and a lot of time in other FF games you'll find characters that come off as mindless husks that obtain all of their character qualities from whatever cliche they're supposed to represent. Not to say that there aren't plenty of cliches in IX, but they at least go through the effort of establishing that character for you and have each of them interact with the storyline in a meaningful way. I mean, except Quina, but s/he's just comic relief anyway.
I also have no idea how you could possibly think that Zidane is a prick, though, and I entirely disagree with you about the random battles as I'm playing through VII right now after finishing IX and the rate at which you get them is nearly identical.
That's my only problem with FFIX... that you let two incredibly young people join you in the fight against countless vicious monsters.
Yes, but they're young and powerful. In both cases Zidane doesn't want to bring them with and then realizes that they can cast black magic/summon eidolons and changes his mind.
That's my only problem with FFIX... that you let two incredibly young people join you in the fight against countless vicious monsters.
Yes, but they're young and powerful. In both cases Zidane doesn't want to bring them with and then realizes that they can cast black magic/summon eidolons and changes his mind.
Not that I agree with DoctorGateux (I mean, this is a work of fiction, and hell FF has always has child cast members), but wouldn't this basically justify child soldiers in your mind?
A 14-year-old skilled with a machine gun is still a 14-year-old.
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because holy shit
Versus XIII
want. now.
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I need to secure that shit so I don't miss out (and get my goddamn FFXIII demo)
The demo isn't even confirmed for the US yet. For all we know it's a Japanese exclusive. AC: Complete won't be getting a simultaneous release either, so if you're expecting early next year... you're screwed.
At a guess it's going to come much later or not at all. While FF13 is being translated to English as they go, I know for a fact that they've done no actual voice recording, whereas they've already started in Japanese. They won't release a demo that isn't fully localized, so..
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I'm almost hoping that they won't release Complete here, then we might get the demo on PSN or Live or something instead.
that's incredible.
I don't really get the love for this "world of magic, swords and limos" in a city - and i quote the devs here - "like new york"
I want Final Fantasy to look like this:
and this:
Not this 'almost real' stuff with skyscrapers and limos and stuff. Obviously we know very little about the game right now, but most of the interviews they do they're talking about how they want Versus to be a more 'real' FF and all this stuff. Bleh. There's enough of that in the HD gen already.
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Well, I'm not really surprised, but I'd really like to see how the games actually play before even starting to decide whether I want either or not.
Although it suddenly occurs to me that I don't even know what kind of game Versus is, because that trailer certainly told me nothing about it.
EDIT: Also I agree with APZonerunner. It's kind of sad to me how they've been systematically divorcing the "fantasy" from Final Fantasy since...well I guess technically FF6, but it's been more pronounced since X. They kind of dipped back towards fantasy with FFIX, which is probably why that's my favorite PSX FF. Eh.
I wasn't a big fan of FFX. It wasn't bad, but nowhere near the PS1 series standards.
I think we can say that 7 and 9 are old school. 7 was about right, I think, too. It was the 'right' mix between the two - I can fully imagine that the world of FF7 is where the world of FF6 was headed in a few thousand years, really. 8's a weird one, because it has some wonderfully stylised locations like the Gardens (at least from the outside, inside they were pretty normal though) and Esthar, but also some stunningly normal locations. A test bed for what was to come, I guess.
As for Versus, I'm not buying into Square-Enix's bullshit anymore with that. I'll wait until we actually know what it plays like. The fact of the matter is they were announced fucking years ago and apart from some pre-rendered (and in the case of normal 13, mixed prerendered/live) trailers we know nothing. We've also had a few pretty screens, but they've all been from cutscenes, where higher poly models are used and stuff. We really have no idea what either game will look like in actual gameplay situations.
Part of the problem with FF fans is that Square can release a CG trailer and all the fans salivate on themselves and scream "do want!" and then when the game releases it sucks fucking ass. See Dirge of Cerberus, which had awesome CG work done by the Advent Children team. For months all they showed was CG of Vincent and Yuffie and the parts of the game when all the crew are back together, and then when the game released it was fucking horrible.
The CG is a nice bonus, and as an FF fan myself I love it - hell, I have a signed, framed Crisis Core CG art of Zack on the wall in my gaming space - but it just doesn't build hype for me anymore.
That trailer was just horn blowing - look at all the big names we've got - look at the pretty CG - and some nice (but samey, very Kingdom Hearts) music from Shimoura. It's cool to see, but it doesn't really do anything for me to tell me anything, really.
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Also a bunch of stuff at the end of the XIII trailer is supposed to be in-game.
I mean, think what you will, but this is Squeenix so I believe it.
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Well, my point still stands:
So we still have no idea how good the game'll look in actual gameplay, how smooth it'll run etc. It's difficult to tell until they actually stop with the bullshit and just show us gameplay, because then we'll know how it looks, how well it runs, and most importantly how it actually plays.
I'm a bit of a skeptic, but don't get me wrong, I love Square-Enix. I used to run an FF fansite, even! They're still good to me because of that, they still send me stuff and keep me updated and invite me to events and stuff. They're a fine company; the UK guys are wonderful - but they just have really shitty methods of releasing information, drip feeding it to the public and showing nothing but CG. If they've got nothing real-time to show, they should've just shut the fuck up and not announced it until they had a bit more to go off.
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Of course Square most likely has a different method. I haven't seen any of their 360 stuff so I dunno if they're still doing that for sure, though it made sense in the PS1/2 days. If they are still doing that... eh. The technology's gotten to the point where they don't need to, and they should try to dig deeper into the hardware.
Either way holy shit pretty </3D geek>
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Well, the 360 titles they've released so far definitely use this method. Some of the info we've seen released for FF13 suggest this is likely, too. The fact Square-Enix continues to use CG while more and more developers abandon it and just do in-engine cutscenes shows their attitude to that area, though. I imagine that is still how things are working, though. Mainly stuff like the hair we've seen and the clothing - if it's as interactive and environment sensitive as it appears - at an almost Advent Children level - it's really gonna be just impossible in a real-time engine where there's a lot of movement that is completely unscripted.
The CG is pretty, and I'm a 3D geek too, but if I just wanted to watch pretty CG, I'd go to Pixar instead. I want a game with actual gameplay too. Unless Square gives up on gaming, but we all know where that leads...
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I wasn't aware that the movie was even coming out in the US since nothing has been said about it.
I'm wondering why I can't pre-order the Japanese version yet. Play-asia and the like don't even have a listing for it.
I have no doubt AC:Complete will come over here. The first one did good enough that NA got a double dip (LE), and Sony just loves showing off that Blu Ray technology. Heck, one of the first Blu Ray ads had a movie montage of characters, and AC Tifa was thrown in there before ACC was even confirmed.
The question is when it'll come out. Sony's DVD releases of "foreign" films has always pissed me off, like the year plus wait for Godzilla Final Wars, and the inexplicable 8 month wait for AC dubbed (no seriously, I'll never rest without knowing why it took so fucking long, and with REDUCED extras). It would be a double-fuck if ACC somehow takes as long, but I'm hoping that won't be the case.
And I'm fairly certain they'll leave the FFXIII demo un-dubbed, with only the text translated to english, ala the MGS demos.
Oh, and since this is now a general FF thread, how about adding my FFXIII blog post to the opening too?
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I think when they throw in their crazy sci-fi/steampunk/[x]punk embellishments, that's when the worlds really start to shine vs. other RPGs. I'm liking the ultra-modern-with-fantasy look that VS13 has going for it. We sort of got a taste of it in VII/Crisis Core with the Shinra building and such, and it looks like they're taking that a couple steps further.
Which is fine by me, since VII is my favourite of the series. (X is a close second, Crisis Core ties if we count spinoffs).
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I'm mostly a fan of the medieval setting, but I never liked any FF plot that featured crystals or a single crystal as the ultimate source of power. It just seemed too convenient to say "oh, this purely unguarded crystal powers the entire world. Smash it and it's the end of everything." I know they still add a crystal into most FFs as tradition of sorts, but I'm more into the Big Bad coming up with his own plan to rule the world, or end it.
Of course FFVI had a rather silly deux ex machina too, with three statues that can end the world if shifted slightly out of order, but the build up to that event was much more epic than exploring some dungeon and watching a crystal shatter.
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Maybe not all that ridiculous. Maybe. The buildup was pretty badass. And I still love the part where
I felt like the statues were important, but they didn't beat you on the head about it over and over and over.
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But I always found it a bit ironic how
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I'm lovin' the music SO MUCH
YAY! Terra footage! Finally! If I ever buy a PSP, and get this game, she will soooooo be my main.
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And since this is a general FF thread, I'll just say that, with the glaring exception of Final Fantasy IX, I've been satisfied with every main FF game I've played (which is all except FFIII), and even some of the offshoots (Crisis Core, FF Fables: Chocobo's Dungeon).
My favorite will always be FFVII, and I will eternally hope for the FFVII remake that may never happen. However, I enjoy the world of FFX the most. And the art style of FFX still gets me to this day, I love the aquatic feel.
If you don't mind me asking, why didn't you like IX?
I didn't really care about the story, as it became a mad rush from town to town right after said town had been destroyed. Godawful character design, and it seems like they went out of the way to make me hate every single character in the process. Zidane is a prick. Steiner has a one-track mind on protecting the Princess. The Princess herself is kind of interesting at first, I suppose, though once she finds out about her origins nothing really comes of it. Vivi is a whiny little cunt and even when he "toughens up" later on I still found him unbearable. Eiko, Amarant, and especially fucking Quina who joins your party simply to eat; I just don't see how anyone can find these characters likable.
The graphics were a downgrade from VIII. Yes, I get what they were going for with the art style. But if that's what they were really going for, they should have done the game in 2D because as it is the deformed characters simply don't look right. I think this is more of a hardware problem than anything, as FFXI and XII both have super-deformed characters that at least look decent.
The battle system, even at the highest speed setting, was atrociously slow, and the random battles occurred more than ever (the Ice Cavern and a few other locales still give me Vietnam-style flashbacks, and that's with avoiding the wind flurries).
Tetra Master is a joke.
That's not to say the game was a total waste. There were a lot of little things I liked about. The Ability system was fucking excellent. The ability to use Tents in battles was welcome (though it doesn't really make sense), and Mognet was a cool little way of saving your game. Chocobo Hot and Cold is one of the best FF minigames yet. The soundtrack is quite stellar. And while I don't like the art style as rendered in-game, all of the CG cutscenes are mesmerizing.
EDIT: Also there is a fucking rat dance ritual, that not only hurt my brain, but became completely useless in the context of the story as it did no fucking good whatsoever.
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Well, yes, but moreso I didn't want someone to come into the thread and say that I'm not giving any justification for my opinion.
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Not even that, in fact.
That's my only problem with FFIX... that you let two incredibly young people join you in the fight against countless vicious monsters.
This picture sums everything up that I love:
It's a simple but elegant style. The water (and the presence of pyreflies throughout the game) lend it a beautiful aesthetic.
Plus Tidus looks exactly like a friend of mine, so that's pretty neat too. :P
He cries all the time and bitches and moans about his existence.
Also, Vivi represents a part of a larger idea of fiction that I particularly hate: the question of whether something created, like a robot, can be truly "alive" and treated as such. Short answer: No. Stop making fiction about it.
I also have no idea how you could possibly think that Zidane is a prick, though, and I entirely disagree with you about the random battles as I'm playing through VII right now after finishing IX and the rate at which you get them is nearly identical.
Yes, but they're young and powerful. In both cases Zidane doesn't want to bring them with and then realizes that they can cast black magic/summon eidolons and changes his mind.
Not that I agree with DoctorGateux (I mean, this is a work of fiction, and hell FF has always has child cast members), but wouldn't this basically justify child soldiers in your mind?
A 14-year-old skilled with a machine gun is still a 14-year-old.