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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I remember a bit about playing and finishing Legend 2. There were different types of characters with different gameplay mechanics. I didn't like the fact that becoming stronger was not very straightforward: Your characters didn't have levels they would just sometimes gain stats randomly after a fight. Or if you had a monster type character the only way he became stronger was eating monster meat and transforming in a different monster.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Well if you think about it...Final Fantasy 2 IS a SaGa game. Weapon Skilling up, Check. Random Stat increases after fights, check (ok not really but still). I think even Akitoshi Kawazu is involved in both games.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fireflash wrote: »
    I remember a bit about playing and finishing Legend 2. There were different types of characters with different gameplay mechanics. I didn't like the fact that becoming stronger was not very straightforward: Your characters didn't have levels they would just sometimes gain stats randomly after a fight. Or if you had a monster type character the only way he became stronger was eating monster meat and transforming in a different monster.

    I think you just described SaGa Frontier. :)

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I remember my brother and I had the Japanese version and the American version due to a stop over in Tokyo airport when I was about 4, and my dad picking us up a random game. We couldn't read it, but we wondered why the game SaGa II was the same as Final Fantasy Legend II. It wasn't until around 1996 and our first intertron machine that we learned why.

    Now that I think about it, there was a decent amount of substance to that game for being such an early rpg.

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  • MinionOfCthulhuMinionOfCthulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Kor wrote: »
    Generic Black Character is go!
    t0kx9t.jpg

    I guess he fits right in with all the other generic, boring characters then!
    Actually, I kind of like him. Come on! He has a baby chocobo!
    Plus, he appears to be pimp slapping Lightning or whatever her fucking name is.

    Boring? Whats the problem, not enough belts? How the hell can you say they're boring when you haven't really seen anything besides stills?

    They look boring. I can tell someone looks boring by looking at them. It's my superpower.
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    http://gonintendo.com/?p=69167

    Final Fantasy II getting a full blown remake for the DS.

    And the milking of a once great franchise continues. :(

    I'm way more excited about this then I should be. MEAT EATING IN THREEE DEEEEE.

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  • FireflashFireflash Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fireflash wrote: »
    I remember a bit about playing and finishing Legend 2. There were different types of characters with different gameplay mechanics. I didn't like the fact that becoming stronger was not very straightforward: Your characters didn't have levels they would just sometimes gain stats randomly after a fight. Or if you had a monster type character the only way he became stronger was eating monster meat and transforming in a different monster.

    I think you just described SaGa Frontier. :)

    That's how it was in Legend II too I remember! You had 4 characters and could choose from Human, Mutant and Monster types. I think you collected little orbs throughout the game. There was a lot of them and they had names. Near the end of the game you fought a god-like being in a tower. The only reason you could defeat him is because he was missing the "heart" orb which prevented him from being perfect.

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  • PataPata Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Well if you think about it...Final Fantasy 2 IS a SaGa game. Weapon Skilling up, Check. Random Stat increases after fights, check (ok not really but still). I think even Akitoshi Kawazu is involved in both games.

    He made FF2, then later went on to make the SaGa games.

    FF2 can be concidered the prototype to the series.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Generic Black Character is go!
    t0kx9t.jpg

    I....uh...

    Huh?

    Hmm.
    By the way, what's that little blurb say about AC:C? That looks like an extended scene. Any new Cloud/Tifa material is always win in my book. Please let it come here in March.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I half expected the Chocobo guy to fight like Duck King from Fatal Fury. Looks like he uses some kind of gun, though...

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  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Generic Black Character is go!
    t0kx9t.jpg

    I....uh...

    Huh?

    Hmm.
    By the way, what's that little blurb say about AC:C? That looks like an extended scene. Any new Cloud/Tifa material is always win in my book. Please let it come here in March.
    I think it's just a mention in the article that if you get the Advent Children Complete movie, you get to try out the FFXIII demo (PS3 only, not 360)

    Wikipedia says: At the Tokyo Game Show 2006, Square Enix showed a trailer of a director's cut of the film, titled Final Fantasy VII Advent Children Complete for release on the Blu-ray Disc format. New scenes will be added to the film, including one in which Sephiroth impales Cloud with his sword and then lifts his body up into the air. The film will also benefit from high-definition video and audio that the Blu-ray format offers. It will also come with a playable demo of Final Fantasy XIII. As of now, only a Japanese release has been confirmed. The cut had formerly been expected to be released in mid 2007, but Square Enix announced at the Tokyo Game Show 2007 that they would postpone the product until 2008.[8]
    punkboy wrote:
    I half expected the Chocobo guy to fight like Duck King from Fatal Fury. Looks like he uses some kind of gun, though...

    Double-pistols, looks like. Some Yuna FFX-2-Gunner action?

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    All I know, is he looks like Balthier meets the globetrotters.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    jack eddy wrote: »
    All I know, is he looks like Balthier meets the globetrotters.

    That actually sounds very awesome. I now hope his style is all about trick shots and the like. And whenever he's on the field, "Sweet Georgia Brown" starts being whistled by the Chocobo.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    and he holds his guns sideways, right

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  • BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Renzo wrote: »
    and he holds his guns sideways, right

    Oh man, he actually does.

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Actually, from the combat screenshot, it sort of looks like he's holding his guns in a Equilibrium-like pose. So...I wonder if his style is going to be gun kata?

    EDIT: Wait, is he holding it sideways? I can't tell.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    Actually, from the combat screenshot, it sort of looks like he's holding his guns in a Equilibrium-like pose. So...I wonder if his style is going to be gun kata?

    EDIT: Wait, is he holding it sideways? I can't tell.

    Must...not...make...racial..remark...about...sideways..shooting..

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    jack eddy wrote: »
    All I know, is he looks like Balthier meets the globetrotters.

    That actually sounds very awesome. I now hope his style is all about trick shots and the like. And whenever he's on the field, "Sweet Georgia Brown" starts being whistled by the Chocobo.

    And he don't take no jive. Plus, everyone should know that his initial physics equations were all razzle dazzle, and that a real globetrotter always saves his best math for the final count.
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Must...not...make...racial..remark...about...sideways..shooting..

    Hey chief! Can I hold my gun sideways? It just looks so cool!

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    He's so going to be played by Phil Lamar.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    Actually, from the combat screenshot, it sort of looks like he's holding his guns in a Equilibrium-like pose. So...I wonder if his style is going to be gun kata?

    EDIT: Wait, is he holding it sideways? I can't tell.

    Must...not...make...racial..remark...about...sideways..shooting..

    the implication has already been made

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    He's so going to be played by Phil Lamar.

    One can only hope. He brings class to any role.

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  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Official Final Fantasy XIII site hasn't yet updated with his profile unlike the other 3 characters, but that'll probably change in a day or two.

    What is known is his name: Sazh Kalzroy.

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Infact, lets get John Dimagio back from FFX, and Tres McNeal can play lightning or whatever main characters name is, and it can me Final Futurama xiii.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Official Final Fantasy XIII site hasn't yet updated with his profile unlike the other 3 characters, but that'll probably change in a day or two.

    What is known is his name: Sazh Kalzroy.

    And I thought Oerba Dia Vanille was too crazy to pronounce. (Oh-er-ba? Vanilly?)

    Sash Kals-roy?

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Official Final Fantasy XIII site hasn't yet updated with his profile unlike the other 3 characters, but that'll probably change in a day or two.

    What is known is his name: Sazh Kalzroy.

    And I thought Oerba Dia Vanille was too crazy to pronounce. (Oh-er-ba? Vanilly?)

    Sash Kals-roy?

    Who cares? More characters means we're just one more step closer to this fucking game being out!

    I can't believe I still get so uncontrollably excited at the prospect of new FF titles.

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  • OhtsamOhtsam Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Infact, lets get John Dimagio back from FFX, and Tres McNeal can play lightning or whatever main characters name is, and it can me Final Futurama xiii.

    John Dimagio being a VA for FF13 is likely espcially since he was also a VA in FF12 (Migelo if you're interested)

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ohtsam wrote: »
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Infact, lets get John Dimagio back from FFX, and Tres McNeal can play lightning or whatever main characters name is, and it can me Final Futurama xiii.

    John Dimagio being a VA for FF13 is likely espcially since he was also a VA in FF12 (Migelo if you're interested)

    Wow, that's why Migelo has such an awesome voice.

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  • OhtsamOhtsam Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Ohtsam wrote: »
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Infact, lets get John Dimagio back from FFX, and Tres McNeal can play lightning or whatever main characters name is, and it can me Final Futurama xiii.

    John Dimagio being a VA for FF13 is likely espcially since he was also a VA in FF12 (Migelo if you're interested)

    Wow, that's why Migelo has such an awesome voice.

    Its also the same voice he has Bender use in the episode Bender Gets Made which is when I first noticed it
    Another fun fact is he did some incidental voice work for Spirits Within which he was uncredited for

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Neat. Not to derail the thread anymore, I quite look forward to this new character. I know he is stereotyped a bit, but thats mainly from what we see of him, not in his dialogue. Hopefully they make him a smart guy who takes no jive, and has fantastic urban trendyness, like PowerMan in oldschool Hero's for Hire.

    If he has a jamaican accent, or talks street, I might be pissed. I would actually like him to have an english accent. As with my fellow countrymen, black people with english accents just make me happy. It's so unusual for us, but right. Like in Snatch.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ohtsam wrote: »
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Ohtsam wrote: »
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Infact, lets get John Dimagio back from FFX, and Tres McNeal can play lightning or whatever main characters name is, and it can me Final Futurama xiii.

    John Dimagio being a VA for FF13 is likely espcially since he was also a VA in FF12 (Migelo if you're interested)

    Wow, that's why Migelo has such an awesome voice.

    Its also the same voice he has Bender use in the episode Bender Gets Made which is when I first noticed it
    Another fun fact is he did some incidental voice work for Spirits Within which he was uncredited for

    Understandable...I wouldn't want to take credit for being involved in that movie either.

    As for the black guy, yeah I can see him stereotyped but shrug kind of. Really, Hollywood still does a lot of stereotyping itself...it may not be as blatant physically as it is with Funkmaster Flex here but it's there. So, I mean whatever...hopefully it isn't just annoying comic relief character though the screenshots say the opposite.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Official Final Fantasy XIII site hasn't yet updated with his profile unlike the other 3 characters, but that'll probably change in a day or two.

    What is known is his name: Sazh Kalzroy.

    And I thought Oerba Dia Vanille was too crazy to pronounce. (Oh-er-ba? Vanilly?)

    Sash Kals-roy?

    Who cares? More characters means we're just one more step closer to this fucking game being out!

    I can't believe I still get so uncontrollably excited at the prospect of new FF titles.

    They can release as many characters as they want.

    But they don't all have to have batshit crazy names.
    Ohtsam wrote: »
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Ohtsam wrote: »
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Infact, lets get John Dimagio back from FFX, and Tres McNeal can play lightning or whatever main characters name is, and it can me Final Futurama xiii.

    John Dimagio being a VA for FF13 is likely espcially since he was also a VA in FF12 (Migelo if you're interested)

    Wow, that's why Migelo has such an awesome voice.

    Its also the same voice he has Bender use in the episode Bender Gets Made which is when I first noticed it
    Another fun fact is he did some incidental voice work for Spirits Within which he was uncredited for

    Fools! How could you forget his best role in FFXII?
    Gilgamesh!

    And how's this for another fun fact: Every voice actor from the dubbed version of the "Legend of the Crystals" anime OVA had a role in FFX.

    Yes, everyone. It was pretty cool, and a bit creepy if it was mere coincidence.

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  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Official Final Fantasy XIII site hasn't yet updated with his profile unlike the other 3 characters, but that'll probably change in a day or two.

    What is known is his name: Sazh Kalzroy.

    And I thought Oerba Dia Vanille was too crazy to pronounce. (Oh-er-ba? Vanilly?)

    Sash Kals-roy?

    Someone took the liberty to inspect the katakana in the article a little closer and may have found that his name is supposed to be Sazh Katzroy. Makes the last name a little easier, but these first names are going to be rough until we hear the official pronunciation in the game.

    I'm thinking it's Or-bah (Oerba) and Saj (Sazh).

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    know what would be awesome.

    If Sahz was a black mage.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Kor wrote: »
    know what would be awesome.

    If Sahz was a black mage.

    Oh God.

    He's going to be, isn't he.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Kor wrote: »
    know what would be awesome.

    If Sahz was a black mage.

    Oh God.

    He's going to be, isn't he.

    I'm surprised no mention has been made yet of a limit break and large black penis.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Buttcleft wrote: »
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Kor wrote: »
    know what would be awesome.

    If Sahz was a black mage.

    Oh God.

    He's going to be, isn't he.

    I'm surprised no mention has been made yet of a limit break and large black penis.

    Only if the Shaft theme song plays whenever it is initiated.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Anyone catch American Idol last night, with the black dude with the really deep, Chocolate Rain voice?

    He should play this guy.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    From http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/48553:
    39. Zodiac Spear
    - treasures you must NOT obtain are (contents is listed assuming you don't
    wear Diamond Armlet):
    #1 treasure in front of Dalan's house in Rabanastre Lowtown (contains up
    to 100 gil, Potion or Eye Drops)
    #2 treasure in SE corner of Cellars in Royal Palace of Rabanastre
    (contains Elixir)
    #3 avoid the treasure in Confiscatory in Nalbina Dungeons (contains 316
    gil)
    #4 stay away from treasure among 4x4 pot grid on the Vaddu Strand in Phon
    Coast (contains 2000 gil, or Knot of Rust)
    - if you poke any of above four treasures, you can kiss Zodiac Spear in
    [Necrohol of Nabudis / Cloister of the Highborn] goodbye
    - there is one more chance for your Zodiac Spear, a mere 0,1% treasure pot
    in [Henne Mines / Phase 2 Dig]
    - whatever the outcome, Zodiac Spear IS NOT WORTHY to restart the game for
    Emphasis in the bold there. I don't understand the whining about the Zodiac Spear(other than a cruel joke on the developer's part... come on, it's a GAME! The weapon is pretty much an Easter Egg). You do NOT need the Zodiac Spear to beat the game. You only need it to fulfill the OCD part of your brain. Obtaining the Spear doesn't even make the rest of the battles trivial after the Spear... it only makes the game slightly easier.

    Look man, I wouldn't really give a shit if it were some joke weapon, but it's the single most powerful weapon in the game. Sure I don't need it, but it pisses me off anyway

    Just a fucking warning would be nice, just a simple "do not open" so I could blame myself when I open it, but noooooo

    Besides, it's not even really about the spear, it's about the fact that they won't give you the opportunity to get the spear for literally no good reason

    And don't fucking tell me I can still get it, a 1/1000 chance for it to spawn? Yeah, that's fuckin' great, I'm really gonna devote hours of my life to that bullshit

    I mean fer fucks' sake, getting the Deathbringer sounds like the same fuckin' bullshit I went through to get the Demonsbane, only worse because I don't just have to beat a boss, I have to run around an area with superpowerful monsters waiting for the boss to fucking spawn and THEN I have to fucking steal the sword from it

    Really this sort of game design just gets my fuckin' goat I swear

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    From http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/48553:
    39. Zodiac Spear
    - treasures you must NOT obtain are (contents is listed assuming you don't
    wear Diamond Armlet):
    #1 treasure in front of Dalan's house in Rabanastre Lowtown (contains up
    to 100 gil, Potion or Eye Drops)
    #2 treasure in SE corner of Cellars in Royal Palace of Rabanastre
    (contains Elixir)
    #3 avoid the treasure in Confiscatory in Nalbina Dungeons (contains 316
    gil)
    #4 stay away from treasure among 4x4 pot grid on the Vaddu Strand in Phon
    Coast (contains 2000 gil, or Knot of Rust)
    - if you poke any of above four treasures, you can kiss Zodiac Spear in
    [Necrohol of Nabudis / Cloister of the Highborn] goodbye
    - there is one more chance for your Zodiac Spear, a mere 0,1% treasure pot
    in [Henne Mines / Phase 2 Dig]
    - whatever the outcome, Zodiac Spear IS NOT WORTHY to restart the game for
    Emphasis in the bold there. I don't understand the whining about the Zodiac Spear(other than a cruel joke on the developer's part... come on, it's a GAME! The weapon is pretty much an Easter Egg). You do NOT need the Zodiac Spear to beat the game. You only need it to fulfill the OCD part of your brain. Obtaining the Spear doesn't even make the rest of the battles trivial after the Spear... it only makes the game slightly easier.

    Look man, I wouldn't really give a shit if it were some joke weapon, but it's the single most powerful weapon in the game. Sure I don't need it, but it pisses me off anyway

    Just a fucking warning would be nice, just a simple "do not open" so I could blame myself when I open it, but noooooo

    Besides, it's not even really about the spear, it's about the fact that they won't give you the opportunity to get the spear for literally no good reason

    And don't fucking tell me I can still get it, a 1/1000 chance for it to spawn? Yeah, that's fuckin' great, I'm really gonna devote hours of my life to that bullshit

    I mean fer fucks' sake, getting the Deathbringer sounds like the same fuckin' bullshit I went through to get the Demonsbane, only worse because I don't just have to beat a boss, I have to run around an area with superpowerful monsters waiting for the boss to fucking spawn and THEN I have to fucking steal the sword from it

    Really this sort of game design just gets my fuckin' goat I swear


    Maybe its time for you to go play team fortress or something, then D:

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    From http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/48553:
    39. Zodiac Spear
    - treasures you must NOT obtain are (contents is listed assuming you don't
    wear Diamond Armlet):
    #1 treasure in front of Dalan's house in Rabanastre Lowtown (contains up
    to 100 gil, Potion or Eye Drops)
    #2 treasure in SE corner of Cellars in Royal Palace of Rabanastre
    (contains Elixir)
    #3 avoid the treasure in Confiscatory in Nalbina Dungeons (contains 316
    gil)
    #4 stay away from treasure among 4x4 pot grid on the Vaddu Strand in Phon
    Coast (contains 2000 gil, or Knot of Rust)
    - if you poke any of above four treasures, you can kiss Zodiac Spear in
    [Necrohol of Nabudis / Cloister of the Highborn] goodbye
    - there is one more chance for your Zodiac Spear, a mere 0,1% treasure pot
    in [Henne Mines / Phase 2 Dig]
    - whatever the outcome, Zodiac Spear IS NOT WORTHY to restart the game for
    Emphasis in the bold there. I don't understand the whining about the Zodiac Spear(other than a cruel joke on the developer's part... come on, it's a GAME! The weapon is pretty much an Easter Egg). You do NOT need the Zodiac Spear to beat the game. You only need it to fulfill the OCD part of your brain. Obtaining the Spear doesn't even make the rest of the battles trivial after the Spear... it only makes the game slightly easier.

    Look man, I wouldn't really give a shit if it were some joke weapon, but it's the single most powerful weapon in the game. Sure I don't need it, but it pisses me off anyway

    Just a fucking warning would be nice, just a simple "do not open" so I could blame myself when I open it, but noooooo

    Besides, it's not even really about the spear, it's about the fact that they won't give you the opportunity to get the spear for literally no good reason

    And don't fucking tell me I can still get it, a 1/1000 chance for it to spawn? Yeah, that's fuckin' great, I'm really gonna devote hours of my life to that bullshit

    I mean fer fucks' sake, getting the Deathbringer sounds like the same fuckin' bullshit I went through to get the Demonsbane, only worse because I don't just have to beat a boss, I have to run around an area with superpowerful monsters waiting for the boss to fucking spawn and THEN I have to fucking steal the sword from it

    Really this sort of game design just gets my fuckin' goat I swear

    This really makes me wonder exactly how the fuck people know that the spear even exists? Doesn't everyone just open every box they see?

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    elliotw2 wrote: »
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    From http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/459841/48553:
    39. Zodiac Spear
    - treasures you must NOT obtain are (contents is listed assuming you don't
    wear Diamond Armlet):
    #1 treasure in front of Dalan's house in Rabanastre Lowtown (contains up
    to 100 gil, Potion or Eye Drops)
    #2 treasure in SE corner of Cellars in Royal Palace of Rabanastre
    (contains Elixir)
    #3 avoid the treasure in Confiscatory in Nalbina Dungeons (contains 316
    gil)
    #4 stay away from treasure among 4x4 pot grid on the Vaddu Strand in Phon
    Coast (contains 2000 gil, or Knot of Rust)
    - if you poke any of above four treasures, you can kiss Zodiac Spear in
    [Necrohol of Nabudis / Cloister of the Highborn] goodbye
    - there is one more chance for your Zodiac Spear, a mere 0,1% treasure pot
    in [Henne Mines / Phase 2 Dig]
    - whatever the outcome, Zodiac Spear IS NOT WORTHY to restart the game for
    Emphasis in the bold there. I don't understand the whining about the Zodiac Spear(other than a cruel joke on the developer's part... come on, it's a GAME! The weapon is pretty much an Easter Egg). You do NOT need the Zodiac Spear to beat the game. You only need it to fulfill the OCD part of your brain. Obtaining the Spear doesn't even make the rest of the battles trivial after the Spear... it only makes the game slightly easier.

    Look man, I wouldn't really give a shit if it were some joke weapon, but it's the single most powerful weapon in the game. Sure I don't need it, but it pisses me off anyway

    Just a fucking warning would be nice, just a simple "do not open" so I could blame myself when I open it, but noooooo

    Besides, it's not even really about the spear, it's about the fact that they won't give you the opportunity to get the spear for literally no good reason

    And don't fucking tell me I can still get it, a 1/1000 chance for it to spawn? Yeah, that's fuckin' great, I'm really gonna devote hours of my life to that bullshit

    I mean fer fucks' sake, getting the Deathbringer sounds like the same fuckin' bullshit I went through to get the Demonsbane, only worse because I don't just have to beat a boss, I have to run around an area with superpowerful monsters waiting for the boss to fucking spawn and THEN I have to fucking steal the sword from it

    Really this sort of game design just gets my fuckin' goat I swear

    This really makes me wonder exactly how the fuck people know that the spear even exists? Doesn't everyone just open every box they see?
    The official strategy guide, most likely.

    They are hip to that kinda info

    Buttcleft on
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