Once I get my paladin to 80, do some heroics and raids, I'm going to start leveling my warrior. It just feels like melee classes are better suited for me now. I love my mage, Sckooter is awesome and all, but I just don't like waiting for spells anymore.
There is always my DK... damn these decisions!
Everyone and their mother has a DK for an alt, it would probably be wise to choose something else.
True, but it's fun as hell. And I have the option to tank instances I want, which is a perk my warrior has, even though she is prot. I should probably start collecting some prot gear for my paladin, just so I can tank some stuff.
I finally decided to dump my store of herbs last night, which was completely dumb of me. I did manage to get 7 buy outs before maintainance.
As someone who has suffered playing a Rogue all the way through level 47, I think it's safe to say that Death Knight is going to be my MAIN! :O
How odd, the rogue I rolled once upon a time is stuck at level 47.
Was one of those "man, Blizzard is never gonna fix my class, I'll try a rogue, those seem popular" situations. Played off and on for a couple weeks.. and eventually got bored and realized the class wasn't well suited to me. But the DK is a heap of fun. Get all the big DPS numbers and I can heal myself, and I can take damage. What's not to like?
Other than the fact that apparently DK's aren't all that impressive in pvp. Not that I've tried it yet, just that no one seems too impressed with them.
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Other than the fact that apparently DK's aren't all that impressive in pvp. Not that I've tried it yet, just that no one seems too impressed with them.
This is music to my ears. The more people aren't impressed with DKs in PvP, the more likely it is that their nerfs will be minimal (they might even receive some buffs).
Other than the fact that apparently DK's aren't all that impressive in pvp. Not that I've tried it yet, just that no one seems too impressed with them.
This is music to my ears. The more people aren't impressed with DKs in PvP, the more likely it is that their nerfs will be minimal (they might even receive some buffs).
Yeah, I don't much care for my DK in pvp so far however, come Dec 13 and arenas, Death Grip will be an I Win button.
Other than the fact that apparently DK's aren't all that impressive in pvp. Not that I've tried it yet, just that no one seems too impressed with them.
This is music to my ears. The more people aren't impressed with DKs in PvP, the more likely it is that their nerfs will be minimal (they might even receive some buffs).
Yeah, I don't much care for my DK in pvp so far however, come Dec 13 and arenas, Death Grip will be an I Win button.
I can already see the teams based on Death Gripping a healer into a group of rogues/warriors/dps and just blowing them up.
Of course I doubt I'll bother arena'ing, but there's hillarity afoot.
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If, at most, they just slap a longer cooldown on Death Grip, that's fine by me. Just don't fuck with the damage output, heals and survivability, that's all I'm sayin'.
Other than the fact that apparently DK's aren't all that impressive in pvp. Not that I've tried it yet, just that no one seems too impressed with them.
This is music to my ears. The more people aren't impressed with DKs in PvP, the more likely it is that their nerfs will be minimal (they might even receive some buffs).
Yeah, I don't much care for my DK in pvp so far however, come Dec 13 and arenas, Death Grip will be an I Win button.
I can already see the teams based on Death Gripping a healer into a group of rogues/warriors/dps and just blowing them up.
Of course I doubt I'll bother arena'ing, but there's hillarity afoot.
My dream was to jump off lumbermill, and death grip people down with me. Then I learned you can't cast the spell while midair.
Lumbermill is the reason I rolled a priest. MCing people and tossing them off was the most entertaining thing I could imagine.
thats cause there are lots of BAD dks trying to pvp at 80. good rule of thumb is if they have a presance buff (theya re all wastes of talent points) you should be able to kill them. people on my server AVOID me in wintergrasp becasue i bury 2 and 3 hordes at a time. i have to have DND on casue DKs won't leave me alone >.<
Deathknights are the only class I cannot solo as a geared prot warrior. NERF
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I'd construct a situation such that everyone died at the exact same moment so that we could attack whatever afterlife there happens to be en masse and so take it over and create a perfect unending afterlife existence. Also, everyone who wanted one would have an afterlife pony.
thats cause there are lots of BAD dks trying to pvp at 80. good rule of thumb is if they have a presance buff (theya re all wastes of talent points) you should be able to kill them. people on my server AVOID me in wintergrasp becasue i bury 2 and 3 hordes at a time. i have to have DND on casue DKs won't leave me alone >.<
I would strongly disagree about frost and unholy presence being a waste. Frost would be terribly useful in the absence of gift of the wild(should be often) and unholy should be a pretty serious boon in group play.
[QUOTE=Septus;8051428I would strongly disagree about frost and unholy presence being a waste. Frost would be terribly useful in the absence of gift of the wild(should be often) and unholy should be a pretty serious boon in group play.[/QUOTE]
maybe for PvE, i'm speaking from a PvP stand point though.
in the old battle grounds unholy presance might have some use. but it doesn't affect siege engines and if you're chasing one you should mount up anyway. the spell resist from frost presance is negligable and if you're pvping in a total pve spec i wouldn't expect much of a fight from someone who's just spec'ed better than you.
Deathknights are the only class I cannot solo as a geared prot warrior. NERF
Paper fine, nerf rock - scissors.
I love that quote.
Also, I went back for some Wintergrasp action; fun as hell. Got into a PuG attempt on the 25 man raid boss too, which was fun but didn't manage to kill him. We got him to under 20% twice, but just didn't have the DPS to seal the deal.
God I need to upgrade my shit. Especially my weapons.
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First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKER!
Also, I went back for some Wintergrasp action; fun as hell. Got into a PuG attempt on the 25 man raid boss too, which was fun but didn't manage to kill him. We got him to under 20% twice, but just didn't have the DPS to seal the deal.
Does that boss's charge aggro dump or something? I was pretty heavily threat capped when I did it.
(We killed him on our second try though...)
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I wish that someway, somehow, that I could save every one of us
Deathknights are the only class I cannot solo as a geared prot warrior. NERF
Paper fine, nerf rock - scissors.
I love that quote.
Also, I went back for some Wintergrasp action; fun as hell. Got into a PuG attempt on the 25 man raid boss too, which was fun but didn't manage to kill him. We got him to under 20% twice, but just didn't have the DPS to seal the deal.
God I need to upgrade my shit. Especially my weapons.
assuming you are melee, 8 titansteel 8 saronite bars and 2 frozen orbs gets you the Titansteel beatstick from any BS. its what i use and granted my gear is decent for not starting naxx yet i do anywhere from 2600-3100dps on a boss fight and sustain close to 2000dps over a heroic. haven't tried that raid yet as most of my server is retarded and can't take wintergrasp unless most of my guild comes with me
3v3 is all i did on arena. 5mans it can only get more awesome with wandering plague pestillance and blood boil you're making life hell for everyone on thier team. i'd expect some serious focus firing come the 16th
Don't forget, if you're in the process of being hacked, you can easilly "reset" your password, change it, and log in to kick them out. Just, y'know, do it from a safer PC.
Stopped a hacker twice on my brothers account. They took most of his stuff, but he got it all back
thats cause there are lots of BAD dks trying to pvp at 80. good rule of thumb is if they have a presance buff (theya re all wastes of talent points) you should be able to kill them. people on my server AVOID me in wintergrasp becasue i bury 2 and 3 hordes at a time. i have to have DND on casue DKs won't leave me alone >.<
I would strongly disagree about frost and unholy presence being a waste. Frost would be terribly useful in the absence of gift of the wild(should be often) and unholy should be a pretty serious boon in group play.
In Beta Frost Aura and MotW stacked, has this changed?
I got hacked on Sunday night and tried to reset my password on the WoW website, but it said that either my account name or e-mail was incorrect.
I've now spent all of yesterday and so far today calling Bliz every 10 minutes or so, only to get a busy signal each time. No response to my e-mail, either.
I would strongly disagree about frost and unholy presence being a waste. Frost would be terribly useful in the absence of gift of the wild(should be often) and unholy should be a pretty serious boon in group play.
maybe for PvE, i'm speaking from a PvP stand point though.
in the old battle grounds unholy presance might have some use. but it doesn't affect siege engines and if you're chasing one you should mount up anyway. the spell resist from frost presance is negligable and if you're pvping in a total pve spec i wouldn't expect much of a fight from someone who's just spec'ed better than you.
Unholy Aura does speed up movement in vehicles, according to posts on Elitist Jerks. Even if it did not, not all group based pvp is going to be vehicle based.
Frost aura is over 10% magic damage reduction to everyone in your raid that is in range. I think that's much more likely to be active than gift of the wild, and 10% magic damage reduction for 2 points is nothing to scoff at.
And yeah, in live, Frost Presence doesn't stack anymore with MoTW, it sucks.
I got hacked on Sunday night and tried to reset my password on the WoW website, but it said that either my account name or e-mail was incorrect.
I've now spent all of yesterday and so far today calling Bliz every 10 minutes or so, only to get a busy signal each time. No response to my e-mail, either.
GG, Bliz!
GG you for making yourself vulnerable and being hacked in the first place.
It happens dude. Blizzard can't even delete all the keylogger posts from their own official forums in any kind of way but super half-ass.
I've been hacked twice (once a couple years ago, once a couple of weeks ago) and I run AV/spyware stuff, etc. There's just alot of stuff out there and sometimes you miss it. Sometimes it's in products you don't expect to have problems, like Flash, etc.
It happens dude. Blizzard can't even delete all the keylogger posts from their own official forums in any kind of way but super half-ass.
I've been hacked twice (once a couple years ago, once a couple of weeks ago) and I run AV/spyware stuff, etc. There's just alot of stuff out there and sometimes you miss it. Sometimes it's in products you don't expect to have problems, like Flash, etc.
I've never run AV or anti-spyware crap, and been playing MMO's since everquest's release.. and have never had an account compromised. Clearly the fault is with people being careless.
It happens dude. Blizzard can't even delete all the keylogger posts from their own official forums in any kind of way but super half-ass.
I've been hacked twice (once a couple years ago, once a couple of weeks ago) and I run AV/spyware stuff, etc. There's just alot of stuff out there and sometimes you miss it. Sometimes it's in products you don't expect to have problems, like Flash, etc.
I've never run AV or anti-spyware crap, and been playing MMO's since everquest's release.. and have never had an account compromised. Clearly the fault is with people being careless.
See, anecdotal evidence is fun!
Except I wasn't the one doing it. There is no 100 percent proof against keyloggers and such except by not going online.
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thats cause there are lots of BAD dks trying to pvp at 80. good rule of thumb is if they have a presance buff (theya re all wastes of talent points) you should be able to kill them. people on my server AVOID me in wintergrasp becasue i bury 2 and 3 hordes at a time. i have to have DND on casue DKs won't leave me alone >.<
Were you born stupid or do you actively work on it? "olol he spent 2 talent points on a useful, passive raid-wide buff, FREE HKS OVER HERE EVERYONE!!!!"
So I'm looking at upgrading my rig a bit this holiday season. WoW is the only game I play, so I'm doing so with better performance in mind; that said, it couldn't hurt to consider future games.
I planned poorly. 25 man raiding starts tonight for my guild and I went to bed last night 66% through 79, thinking I would wake up this morning and finish the rest before doing school work the rest of the day. Completely forgot about downtime.
And no, I didn't do schoolwork instead this morning while I waited for the servers to come up, that would have been responsible and intelligent.
thats cause there are lots of BAD dks trying to pvp at 80. good rule of thumb is if they have a presance buff (theya re all wastes of talent points) you should be able to kill them. people on my server AVOID me in wintergrasp becasue i bury 2 and 3 hordes at a time. i have to have DND on casue DKs won't leave me alone >.<
Were you born stupid or do you actively work on it? "olol he spent 2 talent points on a useful, passive raid-wide buff, FREE HKS OVER HERE EVERYONE!!!!"
To be fair, the only ones that are actually useful are Frost and Unholy.
thats cause there are lots of BAD dks trying to pvp at 80. good rule of thumb is if they have a presance buff (theya re all wastes of talent points) you should be able to kill them. people on my server AVOID me in wintergrasp becasue i bury 2 and 3 hordes at a time. i have to have DND on casue DKs won't leave me alone >.<
Were you born stupid or do you actively work on it? "olol he spent 2 talent points on a useful, passive raid-wide buff, FREE HKS OVER HERE EVERYONE!!!!"
To be fair, the only ones that are actually useful are Frost and Unholy.
Blood Presence is pretty laughable.
They are auras. The blood aura works wellw ith leveling / grinding as blood. Not going to save any raids or groups with it though.
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True, but it's fun as hell. And I have the option to tank instances I want, which is a perk my warrior has, even though she is prot. I should probably start collecting some prot gear for my paladin, just so I can tank some stuff.
I finally decided to dump my store of herbs last night, which was completely dumb of me. I did manage to get 7 buy outs before maintainance.
How odd, the rogue I rolled once upon a time is stuck at level 47.
Was one of those "man, Blizzard is never gonna fix my class, I'll try a rogue, those seem popular" situations. Played off and on for a couple weeks.. and eventually got bored and realized the class wasn't well suited to me. But the DK is a heap of fun. Get all the big DPS numbers and I can heal myself, and I can take damage. What's not to like?
Other than the fact that apparently DK's aren't all that impressive in pvp. Not that I've tried it yet, just that no one seems too impressed with them.
Yeah, I don't much care for my DK in pvp so far however, come Dec 13 and arenas, Death Grip will be an I Win button.
I can already see the teams based on Death Gripping a healer into a group of rogues/warriors/dps and just blowing them up.
Of course I doubt I'll bother arena'ing, but there's hillarity afoot.
My dream was to jump off lumbermill, and death grip people down with me. Then I learned you can't cast the spell while midair.
Lumbermill is the reason I rolled a priest. MCing people and tossing them off was the most entertaining thing I could imagine.
Paper fine, nerf rock - scissors.
I would strongly disagree about frost and unholy presence being a waste. Frost would be terribly useful in the absence of gift of the wild(should be often) and unholy should be a pretty serious boon in group play.
maybe for PvE, i'm speaking from a PvP stand point though.
in the old battle grounds unholy presance might have some use. but it doesn't affect siege engines and if you're chasing one you should mount up anyway. the spell resist from frost presance is negligable and if you're pvping in a total pve spec i wouldn't expect much of a fight from someone who's just spec'ed better than you.
I love that quote.
Also, I went back for some Wintergrasp action; fun as hell. Got into a PuG attempt on the 25 man raid boss too, which was fun but didn't manage to kill him. We got him to under 20% twice, but just didn't have the DPS to seal the deal.
God I need to upgrade my shit. Especially my weapons.
Does that boss's charge aggro dump or something? I was pretty heavily threat capped when I did it.
(We killed him on our second try though...)
assuming you are melee, 8 titansteel 8 saronite bars and 2 frozen orbs gets you the Titansteel beatstick from any BS. its what i use and granted my gear is decent for not starting naxx yet i do anywhere from 2600-3100dps on a boss fight and sustain close to 2000dps over a heroic. haven't tried that raid yet as most of my server is retarded and can't take wintergrasp unless most of my guild comes with me
We won't know how great or not they really are until arenas roll around though.
on beta DK, ret pally, resto sham kicked an increadible amount of ass. we'll see though
Don't forget, if you're in the process of being hacked, you can easilly "reset" your password, change it, and log in to kick them out. Just, y'know, do it from a safer PC.
Stopped a hacker twice on my brothers account. They took most of his stuff, but he got it all back
In Beta Frost Aura and MotW stacked, has this changed?
Uh, yes?
They'll sell every item you own to a vendor and mail the gold away.
Plus, you know, the account is your property, even though odds would suggest you gave out the password.
Actually they've always claimed that 5v5 was their balancing benchmark.
1v1, 2v2 and 3v3 have glancing familiarity with "balance", but YMMV based on FOTM class/spec/itemization.
I've now spent all of yesterday and so far today calling Bliz every 10 minutes or so, only to get a busy signal each time. No response to my e-mail, either.
GG, Bliz!
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Unholy Aura does speed up movement in vehicles, according to posts on Elitist Jerks. Even if it did not, not all group based pvp is going to be vehicle based.
Frost aura is over 10% magic damage reduction to everyone in your raid that is in range. I think that's much more likely to be active than gift of the wild, and 10% magic damage reduction for 2 points is nothing to scoff at.
And yeah, in live, Frost Presence doesn't stack anymore with MoTW, it sucks.
GG you for making yourself vulnerable and being hacked in the first place.
Shame on you.
I've been hacked twice (once a couple years ago, once a couple of weeks ago) and I run AV/spyware stuff, etc. There's just alot of stuff out there and sometimes you miss it. Sometimes it's in products you don't expect to have problems, like Flash, etc.
See, anecdotal evidence is fun!
Except I wasn't the one doing it. There is no 100 percent proof against keyloggers and such except by not going online.
Were you born stupid or do you actively work on it? "olol he spent 2 talent points on a useful, passive raid-wide buff, FREE HKS OVER HERE EVERYONE!!!!"
Which purchase would benefit performance more?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130398
or
2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130384&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-14-130-384-_-Product for SLI?
Edit: I'd be upgrading from 2x GeForce 6800 Ultras. Not sure if they're currently set up for SLI or not.
And no, I didn't do schoolwork instead this morning while I waited for the servers to come up, that would have been responsible and intelligent.
To be fair, the only ones that are actually useful are Frost and Unholy.
Blood Presence is pretty laughable.
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They are auras. The blood aura works wellw ith leveling / grinding as blood. Not going to save any raids or groups with it though.