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nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Arggh wrong number

    damn you elks!

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Preacher:

    I guess I just see the two actors as having a very similar schtick, and he was the first that popped into my head to compare NPH to. Also, I kinda sorta really like That 70's show.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Trigun kicks ass.

    Fuck all you haters.

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  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I think I am haunted. Last night one or two of my basement lights kept on flickering or getting dimmer randomly. So today I decided to stay in my upstairs room. THE LIGHT IS FLICKERING TOO!!!

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  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    you know, when I said looking at old college acquaintances' facebook pages made me feel like a failure I was not referring to physical condition at least. Good lord some of these people really let themselves go.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Weird Al isn't really that funny. The novelty wears off really quickly.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    See, when you say it like that, it comes across to me like saying that, for instance, a math major wouldn't want to take an advanced math class because it's too hard. We all major in perceptive inference and interpersonal communication, and my accusation is that the anime narrative method makes people aggressively lazy about it.

    So if I don't like a narrative, I'm lazy?

    I mean, some people do view art as a form of entertainment and I really don't see why [chat] has the odd tendency to view anything that doesn't appreciate the intellectual component of art as inferior/wrong.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2008
    PA sent me Amazon monies for Christmas! :D

    And that's because they're run by super awesome people.

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Nocturne wrote: »
    Trigun kicks ass.

    Fuck all you haters.

    Did you know that a former red ranger was the voice of vash in the english dub?


    yes indeed.

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  • RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Nocturne wrote: »
    Trigun kicks ass.

    Fuck all you haters.

    No, fuck you.

    Yeah!

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  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Elki wrote: »
    PA sent me Amazon monies for Christmas! :D

    And that's because they're run by super awesome people.
    You actually got some form of payment?!

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    Weird Al isn't really that funny. The novelty wears off really quickly.

    On should not compete for the chat when one doesn't have an idea for said chat

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    But seriously, Brave New World is all kinds of awesome.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Aegis wrote: »
    See, when you say it like that, it comes across to me like saying that, for instance, a math major wouldn't want to take an advanced math class because it's too hard. We all major in perceptive inference and interpersonal communication, and my accusation is that the anime narrative method makes people aggressively lazy about it.

    So if I don't like a narrative, I'm lazy?

    Yeah I'm having issue with that, it seems like a cop out to deny someones personal taste not geling with a very subjective opinion. I personally didn't like No country and I don't think it was out of any sort of lazyness on my part.

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    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I think I am haunted. Last night one or two of my basement lights kept on flickering or getting dimmer randomly. So today I decided to stay in my upstairs room. THE LIGHT IS FLICKERING TOO!!!

    Convince the ghost that he's an athiest and he will vanish in a puff of logic.

    Ludious on
  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Aegis wrote: »
    See, when you say it like that, it comes across to me like saying that, for instance, a math major wouldn't want to take an advanced math class because it's too hard. We all major in perceptive inference and interpersonal communication, and my accusation is that the anime narrative method makes people aggressively lazy about it.

    So if I don't like a narrative, I'm lazy?

    What I'm saying is that disliking a narrative method that's necessarily demanding of the audience makes you lazy.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    But seriously, Brave New World is all kinds of awesome.

    I'll agree with that.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    Weird Al isn't really that funny. The novelty wears off really quickly.
    I used to love Weird Al.

    Then I turned twelve.

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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited December 2008
    Aegis wrote: »
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    I also feel like it's destroyed some of my more weeaboo friends' ability to enjoy real, deep narrative. None of my friends can watch a movie like, say, Lost in Translation, Babel, or No Country without bitching, "What's the point?" It drives me up the fucking wall when somebody says that because it's such a meaningless god damned criticism of art.

    This, to me, is the real crime. This weeaboo goth chick I hung out with this summer was completely incapable of processing any narrative that didn't announce itself with giant neon signs. It's really fucking sad.

    Maybe some people just don't like the way the narratives are portrayed in some films?

    Of course. Many intelligent people that I respect disliked some of the movies W_H listed. They could then follow up that dislike with a thoughtful discussion of why they think it didn't work for them. They're culturally literate so I take them seriously.

    The people W_H and I are talking about don't do that. It's a reflexive dislike based on "it's not like the things that I like". And it's especially common in anime because of how facile it typically is; it trains viewers not to look deeper because everything is spoon-fed to them right up front.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ludious wrote: »
    Preacher:

    I guess I just see the two actors as having a very similar schtick, and he was the first that popped into my head to compare NPH to. Also, I kinda sorta really like That 70's show.

    Doogie has shown longevity where as Topher is already on the way out.

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    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0wm3JwXbLs

    This [chat] does not go to 11.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    But seriously, Brave New World is all kinds of awesome.
    Eh.

    For my money, A Canticle for Leibowitz was way better. I liked 1984 better, too.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think I am haunted. Last night one or two of my basement lights kept on flickering or getting dimmer randomly. So today I decided to stay in my upstairs room. THE LIGHT IS FLICKERING TOO!!!

    Convince the ghost that he's an athiest and he will vanish in a puff of logic.

    Or change your old lightbulbs you cheap bastard.

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    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Preacher:

    I guess I just see the two actors as having a very similar schtick, and he was the first that popped into my head to compare NPH to. Also, I kinda sorta really like That 70's show.

    Doogie has shown longevity where as Topher is already on the way out.

    Not really. He made a comeback by basically parodying himself

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  • Look Out it's Sabs!Look Out it's Sabs! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Ludious wrote: »
    I think I am haunted. Last night one or two of my basement lights kept on flickering or getting dimmer randomly. So today I decided to stay in my upstairs room. THE LIGHT IS FLICKERING TOO!!!

    Convince the ghost that he's an athiest and he will vanish in a puff of logic.

    Yeah but I need to find out who the ghost is first so I can summon the spirit at his grave.

    Or maybe it's a female ghost.

    :winky:

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  • LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Preacher:

    I guess I just see the two actors as having a very similar schtick, and he was the first that popped into my head to compare NPH to. Also, I kinda sorta really like That 70's show.

    Doogie has shown longevity where as Topher is already on the way out.

    I wouldn't say doogie has longevity. He had Doogie, a bit part in Starship Troopers, and a self depricating role in a stoner movie that got him some good press and landed him in a CBS sitcom.

    It's not longevity, it's a comeback.

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  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    But seriously, Brave New World is all kinds of awesome.

    Meh.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    Weird Al isn't really that funny. The novelty wears off really quickly.

    On should not compete for the chat when one doesn't have an idea for said chat

    Mine would have been Trivium themed because I'm seeing them on Saturday, but then I'd be willing to admit that I was deserving of all the metal hate that was coming my way :P

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    Weird Al isn't really that funny. The novelty wears off really quickly.
    I used to love Weird Al.

    Then I turned twelve.

    This is so true.

    Though I actually did appreciate his "White 'n Nerdy" song for a listen or two.

    But otherwise yeah.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    I also feel like it's destroyed some of my more weeaboo friends' ability to enjoy real, deep narrative. None of my friends can watch a movie like, say, Lost in Translation, Babel, or No Country without bitching, "What's the point?" It drives me up the fucking wall when somebody says that because it's such a meaningless god damned criticism of art.

    Art? Pffft.

    People go gaga over selfish people doing what they want on screen and getting away with it.

    Raging Bull? Protagonist is a dick. Movie becomes famous.
    Goodfellas? Everybody's a dick. Movie puts Scorcese on the map.
    There Will Be Blood? Protagonist is a dick. Movie get Oscar nominations.
    Citizen Kane? Protagonist is a dick. Movie becomes iconic.

    But a move like Once comes along and drops off the face of the earth because the protagonist is a nice guy.

    I conclude the audience enjoys being abused by the movies they watch.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Preacher:

    I guess I just see the two actors as having a very similar schtick, and he was the first that popped into my head to compare NPH to. Also, I kinda sorta really like That 70's show.

    Doogie has shown longevity where as Topher is already on the way out.

    Not really. He made a comeback by basically parodying himself

    How so? I mean I may hate the show, but he's a central reason why its on the air still and that's not a parody of doogie.

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  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    Weird Al isn't really that funny. The novelty wears off really quickly.
    I used to love Weird Al.

    Then I turned twelve.

    I thought he was the shit when I was in 4th grade.

    Dynagrip on
  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    I also feel like it's destroyed some of my more weeaboo friends' ability to enjoy real, deep narrative. None of my friends can watch a movie like, say, Lost in Translation, Babel, or No Country without bitching, "What's the point?" It drives me up the fucking wall when somebody says that because it's such a meaningless god damned criticism of art.
    This, to me, is the real crime. This weeaboo goth chick I hung out with this summer was completely incapable of processing any narrative that didn't announce itself with giant neon signs. It's really fucking sad.
    Maybe some people just don't like the way the narratives are portrayed in some films?
    Of course. Many intelligent people that I respect disliked some of the movies W_H listed. They could then follow up that dislike with a thoughtful discussion of why they think it didn't work for them. They're culturally literate so I take them seriously.

    The people W_H and I are talking about don't do that. It's a reflexive dislike based on "it's not like the things that I like". And it's especially common in anime because of how facile it typically is; it trains viewers not to look deeper because everything is spoon-fed to them right up front.
    It depends upon the anime. I don't think Cowboy Bebop really did that.

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  • ZimmydoomZimmydoom Accept no substitutes Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Oh God. I had totally forgotten about the song this one is spoofing.

    When I was four I was convinced the lyrics went "my fat mama sat on you."

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    jacobkosh wrote: »
    I also feel like it's destroyed some of my more weeaboo friends' ability to enjoy real, deep narrative. None of my friends can watch a movie like, say, Lost in Translation, Babel, or No Country without bitching, "What's the point?" It drives me up the fucking wall when somebody says that because it's such a meaningless god damned criticism of art.

    This, to me, is the real crime. This weeaboo goth chick I hung out with this summer was completely incapable of processing any narrative that didn't announce itself with giant neon signs. It's really fucking sad.

    Maybe some people just don't like the way the narratives are portrayed in some films?

    Of course. Many intelligent people that I respect disliked some of the movies W_H listed. They could then follow up that dislike with a thoughtful discussion of why they think it didn't work for them. They're culturally literate so I take them seriously.

    The people W_H and I are talking about don't do that. It's a reflexive dislike based on "it's not like the things that I like". And it's especially common in anime because of how facile it typically is; it trains viewers not to look deeper because everything is spoon-fed to them right up front.

    Okay, I can see the point in this.
    What I'm saying is that disliking a narrative method that's necessarily demanding of the audience makes you lazy.

    I'd argue that if the way a piece of art was constructing results in its audience the feeling that its crap/not great/not well approached then the method itself has failed. There's no compulsion that just because art's produced in a certain way that it has to be evaluted in the context of "oh that's just how it's supposed to be". There could be really shitty methods for conveying ideas.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Niel Patrick Harris gets a lot of similar characters as roles when he's not parodying himself, and he gets more of those roles than self-parody roles.

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  • RonTheDMRonTheDM Yes, yes Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    I also feel like it's destroyed some of my more weeaboo friends' ability to enjoy real, deep narrative. None of my friends can watch a movie like, say, Lost in Translation, Babel, or No Country without bitching, "What's the point?" It drives me up the fucking wall when somebody says that because it's such a meaningless god damned criticism of art.

    Art? Pffft.

    People go gaga over selfish people doing what they want on screen and getting away with it.

    Raging Bull? Protagonist is a dick. Movie becomes famous.
    Goodfellas? Everybody's a dick. Movie puts Scorcese on the map.
    There Will Be Blood? Protagonist is a dick. Movie get Oscar nominations.
    Citizen Kane? Protagonist is a dick. Movie becomes iconic.

    But a move like Once comes along and drops off the face of the earth because the protagonist is a nice guy.

    I conclude the audience enjoys being abused by the movies they watch.

    If there were a movie where Daniel Day-Lewis talked down to you and then beat the hell out of you, they'd have my eight dollars.

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    But seriously, Brave New World is all kinds of awesome.

    Meh.

    You missed the part where I said that I haven't read a book in over a year and part of why I'm finding it so wonderful is because it's totally different from the other forms of entertainment that I've become accustomed to.

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  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    I never said that, you BBcode-tard

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