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Why can't a 3D game be your favorite game ever?

LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Games and Technology
I was recently having lunch with some friends and someone asked what our favorite games were.
I said Sonic The Hedgehog(Former Sega Fanboy), another said Super Mario Bros., then someone said TimeSplitters Future Perfect.

I didnt, but many other people grilled him about it. The fact that he didnt love an old 2D game.

So, why is it so bad to have a 3D game as you favorite game ever?

I mean, whats the problem?

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 3rd dimension belongs to, like, the corporate machine, dude.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The third dimension killed my father and raped my mother.

    I think he was grilled because loving best a game that isn't vintage would be, to their mind, some sort of sign that he's not a veteran gamer, or something.

    I maintain that the best game ever is Super Mario Bros. 3, but my personal fav is, and shall always be, Tetris. I guess that makes me super hardcore, veteran, and a real gamer. Maybe?

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  • LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 3rd dimension belongs to, like, the corporate machine, dude.

    So?

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  • FyreWulffFyreWulff YouRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Just people stuck up in the "olol 2D are the only pure games" bullcrap.

    For example, my favorite games are Mario Galaxy and the original Perfect Dark, and Donkey Kong Country 2. Only one of those is 2D.

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    There isn't anything wrong with it, your friends are dumb.

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  • Farout FoolioFarout Foolio Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    It's basically a nostalgia thing, us old men sitting around in our rocking chairs reminiscing about the days of yore, etc etc. Basically, everything was 'better' when we were younger! :p
    Future Perfect is *SO* much fun, tell your friend that he has a supporter.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 3rd dimension belongs to, like, the corporate machine, dude.

    So?

    The government invented the 3rd dimension so they can tighten their iron grip around your throat. I was there when it happened, man, when they unveiled the 3rd dimension! And I was like "Oh my God, dude, oh my God. The government made a new dimension. Let's go smoke some joints."

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  • LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Djiem wrote: »
    The third dimension killed my father and raped my mother.

    I think he was grilled because loving best a game that isn't vintage would be, to their mind, some sort of sign that he's not a veteran gamer, or something.

    I maintain that the best game ever is Super Mario Bros. 3, but my personal fav is, and shall always be, Tetris. I guess that makes me super hardcore, veteran, and a real gamer. Maybe?

    I love tetris. It came very close to number 1 game of all time. But it's number 2. But very close.

    What version did you play?

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You know man, back in the 60's, we all like, only knew about 2 dimensions. But when we opened our minds with drugs, we saw the 3rd dimension. And The Man, he didn't like that, so he took it away from us, dude!

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    There isn't anything wrong with it, your friends are dumb.

    That special kind of dumb you usually only find on internet forums.

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  • LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 3rd dimension belongs to, like, the corporate machine, dude.

    So?

    The government invented the 3rd dimension so they can tighten their iron grip around your throat. I was there when it happened, man, when they unveiled the 3rd dimension! And I was like "Oh my God, dude, oh my God. The government made a new dimension. Let's go smoke some joints."

    Okay. Those joints you made? Where you smoking them while typing your reply?

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  • .Tripwire..Tripwire. Firman Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Depending on their ages, they might just be afraid of their favourite games getting lost in time. And then they associate themselves with those favourite games so anything bad that happens to the game is bad to them personally as well.

    You know like I'll be all "Shit I love the Goonies that movie got me through grade two" and then what few kids have gone through the effort of finding and watching it today will respond "No it sucks Harry Potter is the best and you're ugly and old"

    Your friends are ugly and old, gramps.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    For a long time, and still, the resources required to make assets in 3d often preclude artists from imbuing their games with as much character in their art direction as 2d games. I think people will certain 3D games like WoW, Giants: Citizen Kabuto or Deus Ex (dated,tho,I know) in part because their games had a unique style to them.

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  • LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    There isn't anything wrong with it, your friends are dumb.
    Well, dddddduuuuuhhhhhhh.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 3rd dimension belongs to, like, the corporate machine, dude.

    So?

    The government invented the 3rd dimension so they can tighten their iron grip around your throat. I was there when it happened, man, when they unveiled the 3rd dimension! And I was like "Oh my God, dude, oh my God. The government made a new dimension. Let's go smoke some joints."

    Okay. Those joints you made? Where you smoking them while typing your reply?

    They free our minds from the chains of American fascism, man.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Half-Life got voted best game on this forum with Ocarina of Time close behind and they're both from 1998 so I dunno.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Djiem wrote: »
    The third dimension killed my father and raped my mother.

    I think he was grilled because loving best a game that isn't vintage would be, to their mind, some sort of sign that he's not a veteran gamer, or something.

    I maintain that the best game ever is Super Mario Bros. 3, but my personal fav is, and shall always be, Tetris. I guess that makes me super hardcore, veteran, and a real gamer. Maybe?

    I love tetris. It came very close to number 1 game of all time. But it's number 2. But very close.

    What version did you play?

    Name a version and I played it.
    And if I didn't, I want to.

    I really like the Tetris Party on Wii right now. It has hold, forgiving spin but not infinite, WiFi battles 1-on-1, it has Korobeyniki, Katyusha and Kalinka. Only flaw is that opponents don't have the same block lineup, which bothers me. Otherwise, it'd be the perfect Tetris fighting game.

    I also love Tetris Battle Gaiden on SNES. Again, it's almost perfect for serious competition, except you can't both choose the same character in multiplayer. I do love that both players share the same NEXT block lineup, so it's not just a matter of speed, but also timing.

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  • AntihippyAntihippy Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    4D games are pretty great guys.

    Much better than "2D" or "3D" games.

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  • Descendant XDescendant X Skyrim is my god now. Outpost 31Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You damn kids and your 2d games. Back in my day all we had was 1d games and we were happy to have them.

    NOW GET OFF MY DAMN LAWN!

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  • LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 3rd dimension belongs to, like, the corporate machine, dude.

    So?[/QUOTE]

    The government invented the 3rd dimension so they can tighten their iron grip around your throat. I was there when it happened, man, when they unveiled the 3rd dimension! And I was like "Oh my God, dude, oh my God. The government made a new dimension. Let's go smoke some joints."[/QUOTE]

    Okay. Those joints you made? Where you smoking them while typing your reply?[/QUOTE]

    They free our minds from the chains of American fascism, man.[/QUOTE]

    Okay...okay...I need you to NOT smoke those.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    In the future people will be nostalgic about games where you have to use your hands.

    I wonder what the Spider-Man games will play like in 2015...

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  • rayofashrayofash Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I don't know what my favorite games are, but I know a few of them are 3D.

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  • .Tripwire..Tripwire. Firman Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Guys stop derailing the Goonies thread.


    OP I advise you HIT your friends WITH HAMMER

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Antihippy wrote: »
    4D games are pretty great guys.

    Much better than "2D" or "3D" games.

    "Antihippy", I know your kind. You're just a drone, man! The government looks at you like an ant, toiling away in its little farm, dude! They don't care about you, man. The 4th dimension exists only to imprison you.

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  • LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    In the future people will be nostalgic about games where you have to use your hands.

    I wonder what the Spider-Man games will play like in 2015...
    Still shit

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm more of 2.5D person myself.

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  • Dr.FunkensteinDr.Funkenstein Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    They're dumb there's nothing wrong with a 3D game being your favorite

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  • DisDis Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    In the future people will be nostalgic about games where you have to use your hands.

    I wonder what the Spider-Man games will play like in 2015...

    You will still have to use a Controller or a silly Wii stick.

    Maybe in 2100 you will play games in a silly VR world simulator Box.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The 3rd dimension belongs to, like, the corporate machine, dude.

    So?[/ QUOTE]

    The government invented the 3rd dimension so they can tighten their iron grip around your throat. I was there when it happened, man, when they unveiled the 3rd dimension! And I was like "Oh my God, dude, oh my God. The government made a new dimension. Let's go smoke some joints."[/ QUOTE]

    Okay. Those joints you made? Where you smoking them while typing your reply?[/ QUOTE]

    They free our minds from the chains of American fascism, man.[/ QUOTE]

    Okay...okay...I need you to NOT smoke those.

    Why? His posts are the best thing in this thread. Also, it's usually a good idea to preview your post if you try to quote edit.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    3D games didn't come around until most folks were older, so there's less childhood nostalgia attached to them.

    Also, it's hard to make a 3D game that continues to look good years after it's come out. Yoshi's Island is still gorgeous, but Mario 64 is an ugly mess, even though it was mindblowing it its day.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Kaliyama got it right. The fact is that there are a shitload of bad 2D games, just like with 3D games. The best 3D games are the ones that have either incredible/innovative gameplay, a strong art direction (both visually and musically), and a great plot if applicable. It just seems that with anyone able to make a generic guy in Poser, the 3D games, if all put together in a big basket, feel shallow compared to 2D games of old. The more restrictive the hardware was, the more efforts designers and developers had to make to defy the limitations of the medium.

    Also, what Speed Racer said. 3D games, for the most part, don't seem to age as well as 2D games. There's no real clipping or texture problems or pop-ins in 2D games.

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  • AuburnTigerAuburnTiger Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    My favorite games are Shenmue, Goldeneye 64 and Halo 3.

    And I grew up playing an Atari 2600.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    LewieP wrote: »
    In the future people will be nostalgic about games where you have to use your hands.

    I wonder what the Spider-Man games will play like in 2015...

    You mean you have to use your hands? That's like a baby's toy!

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    3D games didn't come around until most folks were older, so there's less childhood nostalgia attached to them.

    Also, it's hard to make a 3D game that continues to look good years after it's come out. Yoshi's Island is still gorgeous, but Mario 64 is an ugly mess, even though it was mindblowing it its day.

    I don't know. A lot of 2D games haven't aged well.

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  • LeoLeonard3LeoLeonard3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    .Tripwire. wrote: »
    Guys stop derailing the Goonies thread.


    OP I advise you HIT your friends WITH HAMMER

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    After inserting hammer A into Skull C...continuously...subject stopped moving.
    Please advise: Do I insert friend into trashbag and then into river or do I call vinny?

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  • VThornheartVThornheart Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Antihippy wrote: »
    4D games are pretty great guys.

    Much better than "2D" or "3D" games.

    "Antihippy", I know your kind. You're just a drone, man! The government looks at you like an ant, toiling away in its little farm, dude! They don't care about you, man. The 4th dimension exists only to imprison you.

    Mr. Guder, say, Mr. Guder
    Someday soon you may realize
    you've blown your life just playing a game
    where no one wins but everyone stays the same
    The saaaaaaaammmmmmeeeeeeeeee

    That being said, 3D does have the potential to be someone's favorite game. It all stems from what you have the fondest memories of. Old Schoolers will remember their youthful days most fondly, just like kids growing up now will. As such, most people > 20ish years old will have a higher tendancy to favor 2D games (as it was the game of choice in their "Golden Days" of gaming), just as kids growing up now will favor 3D games for the same reason.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    3D games didn't come around until most folks were older, so there's less childhood nostalgia attached to them.

    Also, it's hard to make a 3D game that continues to look good years after it's come out. Yoshi's Island is still gorgeous, but Mario 64 is an ugly mess, even though it was mindblowing it its day.

    I don't know. A lot of 2D games haven't aged well.

    I find that A Link to the Past aged better than Ocarina of Time.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    3D games didn't come around until most folks were older, so there's less childhood nostalgia attached to them.

    Also, it's hard to make a 3D game that continues to look good years after it's come out. Yoshi's Island is still gorgeous, but Mario 64 is an ugly mess, even though it was mindblowing it its day.

    I don't know. A lot of 2D games haven't aged well.

    A lot of 3D games haven't, either.

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  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Djiem wrote: »
    Name a version and I played it.
    And if I didn't, I want to.
    Tetris...3d? :winky:

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  • TheSuperWootTheSuperWoot Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Shady3011 wrote: »
    3D games didn't come around until most folks were older, so there's less childhood nostalgia attached to them.

    Also, it's hard to make a 3D game that continues to look good years after it's come out. Yoshi's Island is still gorgeous, but Mario 64 is an ugly mess, even though it was mindblowing it its day.

    I don't know. A lot of 2D games haven't aged well.

    Yeah, that's not a really fair comparison, considering Yoshi's Island came out at the tail end of 2D game development, a year before the N64 released.

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