Video Game Sales Thread - November's done, move onto the new thread

cloudeagle

All sorts of fantastic video game sales information, from past sales to when the new NPD release will be, is here:

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_Game_Sales_Wiki

Q2 Financial Reports (July - Sept. '08)

Microsoft wrote:

http://www.microsoft.com/msft/earnings/FY09/earn_rel_q1_09.mspx
Note: July - Sept is Q1 for Microsoft

Entertainment and Devices Division

Net profit (Q1): $178 million (+6.5% over Q1 '07)

Nintendo wrote:

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2008/081030e.pdf

Net profit (first 6 months of fiscal year, Q1+Q2): $2.54 billion

Wii Hardware
Apr-Sept 08 | LTD | Forecast LTD Mar 09
10.10M | 34.55M | 51.95M

Nintendo DS Hardware
Apr-Sept 08| LTD | Forecast LTD Mar 09
13.73M | 84.33M | 101.1M

Wii WW LTD -
Hardware - 34.55m
Software - 229.85m
Attach rate - 6.65

NDS WW LTD -
Hardware - 84.33m
Software - 454.63m
Attach rate - 5.39

Sony wrote:

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/08q2_sony.pdf

Gaming Division

Net profit (Q2): -$379 million

Q2 Hardware:
PS3 - 2.43m
PS2 - 2.5m
PSP - 3.18m

Q2 Software:
PS3 - 21.1m
PS2 - 23.1m
PSP - 11.8m

WW LTD Hardware:
PS3 - 16.8m
PS2 - 135.63m
PSP - 46.18m

WW LTD Software:
PS3 - 115.2m
PS2 - 1436.4m
PSP - 180.64

WW LTD Attach Rate:
PS3 - 6.85
PS2 - 10.59
PSP - 3.91

EA wrote:

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/081030/20081030006325.html

Net profit (Q2): -$310 million

Q2 Software:
Madden 09 - 4.5m
Spore - 2m in 3 weeks


Platform Net Revenue Mix (as a % of Net Revenue)
X360 25%
PS3 11%
PS2 6%
Wii 4%
PC 10%
DS 5%
PSP 4%

NPD sales results for November
Wii 2.04M
DS 1.57M
360 836k
PSP 421k
PS3 378k
PS2 206k


GEARS OF WAR 2* (360) 1.56 million
CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR* (360) 1.41 million
WII PLAY W/ REMOTE (WII) 796K
WII FIT (WII) 697K
MARIO KART (WII) 637K
CALL OF DUTY: WORLD AT WAR (PS3) 597K
GUITAR HERO WORLD TOUR* (WII) 475K
LEFT 4 DEAD (360) 410K
RESISTANCE 2* (PS3) 385K
WII MUSIC (WII) 297K

Dr Mario Kart wrote: »

My calculations:

Year over Year Change [Nov07 vs Nov08]
- DSL: 1.53m -> 1.57m (+2.5%)
- WII: 981K -> 2.04m (+108%)
- 360: 770K -> 836k (+8.6%)
- PSP: 567K -> 421k (-21.9%)
- PS2: 496K -> 206k (-58.5%)
- PS3: 466K -> 378k (-18.9%)

Q1 Financial Reports


Media Create Sales: 12/22 - 12/28
01. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles (SCE) - 207,000 / NEW
02. [PSP] Dissidia Final Fantasy (Square Enix) - 176,000 / 665,000
03. [WII] Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) - 144,000 / 876,000
04. [NDS] Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo) - 141,000 / 920,000
05. [NDS] Wagamama Fashion: Girls Mode (Nintendo) - 105,000 / 547,000
06. [NDS] Rhythm Heaven (Nintendo) - 84,500 / 1,445,000
07. [NDS] Phantasy Star Zero (Sega) - 84,000 / NEW
08. [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon) - 79,000 / 2,231,000
09. [WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 71,000 / 3,051,000
10. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 70,000 / 2,066,000

11. [NDS] Momotarou Dentetsu: 20th Anniversary (Hudson)
12. [NDS] Professor Layton and the Last Time Travel (Level 5)
13. [NDS] Little Magician's Magic Adventure (Konami)
14. [NDS] Power Pro Kun Pocket 11 (Konami)
15. [PS2] Gundam Musou 2 (Bandai Namco)
16. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G, BEST (Capcom)
17. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii (Bandai Namco)
18. [WII] Wii de Asobu: Pikmin (Nintendo)
19. [NDS] Tamagotchi Kira Kira Omisecchi (Bandai Namco)
20. [PS3] Gundam Musou 2 (Bandai Namco)
21. [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii (Hudson)
22. [WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
23. [WII] Wii Music (Nintendo)
24. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III (SCE)
25. [NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo)
26. [NDS] Meccha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS: 7-tsu no Shima no Daibouken (Bandai Namco)
27. [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 (Konami)
28. [NDS] Tales of Hearts: Anime Movie Edition (Bandai Namco)
29. [NDS] Genso Suikoden Tierkreis (Konami)
30. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Level 5)

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Top 50
NDS 24
WII 15
PSP 6
PS2 2
PS3 2
360 1

Hardware | This Week | Last Week | Last 4 Weeks | YTD | LTD
DS+ | 204,813 | 138,800 | 565,072 | 3,447,039 | 24,620,093
PSP | 71,540 | 54,800 | 242,656 | 3,428,322 | 11,093,399
WII | 91,641 | 56,700 | 233,487 | 2,596,804 | 7,212,943
PS3 | 33,688 | 30,300 | 116,402 | 895,663 | 2,537,339
360 | 11,797 | 10,000 | 48,694 | 296,184 | 804,629
PS2 | 6,659 | 5,700 | 23,268 | 453,380 | 21,380,420

DSi | 173,693 | 12,700 | 476,421 | 838,570 | 838,570

Stolen from the gaf thread which has awesome Panther Lotus charts as well.

Famitsu total 2008 sales for Japan:

Famitsu 2008


Software Top 30

1. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (Capcom) – PSP 2,452,111
2. Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon Company) – DS 2,187,337
3. Wii Fit (Nintendo) – Wii 2,149,131
4. Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) – Wii 2,003,315
5. Super Smash Bros Brawl (Nintendo) – Wii 1,747,113
6. Rhythm Heaven (Nintendo) – DS 1,350,671
7. Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Square Enix) – DS 1,176,082
8. Animal Crossing: City Folk (Nintendo) – Wii 895,302
9. Kirby Super Star Ultra (Nintendo) – DS 855,427
10. Wii Sports (Nintendo) – Wii 841,736
11. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Konami) – PS3 686,000
12. Dissidia: Final Fantasy (Square Enix) – PSP
13. Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia (Nintendo) – DS
14. Phantasy Star Portable (Sega) – PSP
15. Professor Layton and the Last Time Traveller (Level 5) – DS
16. Mario Kart DS (Nintendo) – DS
17. Wii Play (Nintendo) – Wii
18. Mario Party DS (Nintendo) – DS
19. Wagamama Fashion Girls’s Mode (Nintendo) – DS
20. Super Robot Taisen Z (Namco Bandai) – PS2
21. Meccha! Taiko no Tatsujin DS (Namco Bandai) – DS
22. Chrono Trigger (Square Enix) – DS
23. Calligraphy Training (Nintendo) – DS
24. Daigasso! Band Brothers DS (Nintendo) – DS
25. Warriors Orochi 2 (Koei) – PS2
26. New Super Mario Bros (Nintendo) – DS
27. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Sega) – DS
28. Kido Senshi Gundam: Gundam vs. Gundam (Namco Bandai) – PSP
29. Animal Crossing: Wild World (Nintendo) – DS
30. Wii Music (Nintendo) – Wii


Software unit sales by platform
(2007 numbers in brackets)

Nintendo DS – 28,260,498 (39,130,595)
PSP – 9,745,758 (6,750,169)
Wii – 13,802,220 (11,665,679)
PS3 – 5,155,082 (2,951,390)
PS2 – 7,111,971 (13,262,872)
360 – 1,770,034 (1,480,551)
Other – 210,100 (612,905)

Total software unit sales – 66,055,663 (75,854,161)

Console Unit Sales
(2007 numbers in brackets)

Nintendo DS – 4,029,804 (7,130,228)
PSP – 3,543,171 (3,022,659)
Wii – 2,908,342 (3,629,361)
PS3 – 991,303 (1,206,347)
PS2 – 480,664 (816,419)
360 – 317,859 (257,841)
Other – 9,575 (93,273)

Total hardware sales – 12,280,718 (16,156,128)

PAL Region Software Charts

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/32795/UK-CHARTS-Call-of-Duty-shoots-back-on-top

Week 52, 2008 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (01) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
02 (03) WII Wii Play (Nintendo)
03 (05) 360 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
04 (10) 360 Gears Of War 2 (Microsoft)
05 (02) NDS Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
06 (17) 360 Need For Speed: Undercover (Electronic Arts)
07 (09) PS3 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
08 (07) 360 Fifa 09 (Electronic Arts)
09 (12) WII Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
10 (08) PS3 Littlebigplanet (Sony Computer Ent.)
11 (11) PS3 Fifa 09 (Electronic Arts)
12 (24) PS3 Need For Speed: Undercover (Electronic Arts)
13 (23) 360 Far Cry 2 (Ubisoft)
14 (13) 360 Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Lucasarts)
15 (26) 360 Tomb Raider: Underworld (Eidos)
16 (15) NDS More Brain Training From Dr Kawashima (Nintendo)
17 (14) 360 Kung Fu Panda (Activision Blizzard)
18 (06) WII Wii Fit (Nintendo)
19 (22) WII Animal Crossing: Let's Go To The City (Nintendo)
20 (33) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
21 (18) WII Carnival: Funfair Games (Take 2)
22 (__) 360 Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard)
23 (21) WII Rayman Raving Rabbids Tv Party (Ubisoft)
24 (28) NDS Nintendogs: Lab & Friends (Nintendo)
25 (16) WII Guinness World Records: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)
26 (19) PS3 Resistance 2 (Sony Computer Ent.)
27 (30) 360 Quantum Of Solace (Activision Blizzard)
28 (25) 360 Lips (Microsoft)
29 (__) WII Sonic Unleashed (Sega)
30 (32) 360 Prince Of Persia (Ubisoft)
31 (27) 360 Fallout 3 (Bethesda Softworks)
32 (37) NDS Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
33 (__) WII Big Beach Sports (Thq)
34 (__) 360 Mirror's Edge (Electronic Arts)
35 (40) WII Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard)
36 (34) PC Football Manager 2009 (Sega)
37 (__) PS3 Tomb Raider: Underworld (Eidos)
38 (20) WII Wii Music (Nintendo)
39 (38) NDS Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? (Nintendo)
40 (__) PS3 Far Cry 2 (Ubisoft)[/QUOTE]

UK 2008 totals

2008 TOP 10 - INDIVIDUAL SKUS

1. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) Nintendo
2. Wii Fit (Wii) Nintendo
3. Wii Play (Wii) Nintendo
4. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (DS) Nintendo
5. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Wii) Sega
6. GTA IV (360) Rockstar
7. GTA IV (PS3) Rockstar
8. Call of Duty: World at War (360) Activision
9. Carnival Funfair (Wii) 2K
10. FIFA 09 (360) EA


2008 TOP 10 - ALL FORMATS

1. FIFA 09 EA
2. Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
3. GTA IV (Rockstar)]
4. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (Sega)
5. Wii Fit (Nintendo)
6. Call of Duty: World at War (Activision)
7. Wii Play (Nintendo)
8. Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
9. Lego Indiana Jones (LucasArts)
10. Carnival Funfair (2K)



Older NPD Info:

Hardware US LTD
NDS: 22.44m
PSP: 12.71m
Wii: 12.548.000
360: 11.242.000
PS3: 5.494.000

US 2008 YTD
WII: 5.168.000
PS3: 2.253.000
360: 2.088.000


Software LTDs (US)
Wii Play: 6.852.000
Mario Kart Wii: 3.086.000
Wii Fit: 2.346.000

August 3rd - August 30th (4-weeks)

NDS: 518.3k
Wii: 453.0k
PSP: 253.0k
360: 195.2k
PS3: 185.4k
PS2: 144.1k


360 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 1.0mm
PS3 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 643K
PS2 MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 424.5K
WII WII FIT NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 394.9K
WII MARIO KART NINTENDO OF AMERICA Apr-08 328.7K
WII WII PLAY W/ REMOTE NINTENDO OF AMERICA Feb-07 200.2K
360 SOUL CALIBUR IV NAMCO BANDAI GAMES OF AMERICA Jul-08 174K
360 TOO HUMAN MICROSOFT Aug-08 168.2K
WII MADDEN NFL 09 ELECTRONIC ARTS Aug-08 115.8K
NDS GUITAR HERO: ON TOUR ACTIVISION BLIZZARD Jun-08 111.2K

Sheep

lol sony

cloudeagle

Third parties don't make any games for Casualtendo, etc.

Couscous

You might remember the stupid article saying that the "PS3 is doomed, abloo, abloo." Now you have a response to it!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/15/AR2008121500870.html

CNN has declared Sony's PS3 "a sinking ship" riffing off last Thursday's "plummeting" NPD sales results. CNN bases its gloomy diagnosis on Sony's sales plunge of 19 points, compared to sales in November 2007. That's a fair criticism, but it isolates a superficially negative statistic while ignoring the fact that this November only included two days of post-holiday sales (11/28 - 11/29) compared to last year's eight total (11/23 - 11/30). I'm speculating here, but if you could adjust for that difference, it's very likely PS3 sales would have increased, however slightly, year-over-year.

What's more, Sony rightly points out that the PS3 has seen hardware sales grow 60% year-to-date. I realize the PS3 wasn't selling well in 2007, so that figure's less impressive than it sounds, but growth is growth, any way you slice it. What's more, look at PS3 and Xbox 360 units sold in total worldwide, and Sony pretty much throughout 2008 has actually been playing catchup.

Then there's the PlayStation brand overall, which when you factor in the PSP and PS2, topped 1 million units, more than the Xbox 360's 836,000. The PlayStation brand has in fact pretty easily muscled past the Xbox brand practically every month since the PS3's launch. Sony's margins on the PSP and PS2 are almost certainly better than the PS3's, so which company's actually been more profitable in overall unit sales is less obvious than it seems.

On the other hand, CNN's whacking the nail on the head when it raises the problem of the PlayStation 3's price. The recession's been on well and long enough for Sony to have reacted by now, and yet it's stubbornly clung to that $400 entry point. Had it dropped the PS3's price to $300 or even $350 it's a safe bet October and November's numbers would've tallied much more favorably. Both Microsoft and Sony have a solid stable of exclusives, and both have interesting companion services, but it's price and not NXE/Netflix or PlayStation Home that's deciding the battle at the moment.

Quick points...

CNN's right that the video-game industry isn't recession proof. Nothing is. The rest of us saying as much merely mean "recession-proof-so-far," which it clearly is compared to other ebbing economic indices.

CNN says the differences between Blu-ray and DVD are hard to see on a TV less than 50". I suppose that'd be true if your eyes are somehow genetically fixed at 720 x 480 (NTSC). For the rest of us, Blu-ray at even 720p (1280 x 720) with all its other commensurate upticks in sample rates and color quality is shockingly better than the visuals output of the average DVD.

And finally, "the PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console." Really? I guess CNN's not familiar (or perhaps just not partial to) exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, Wipeout HD, Valkyria Chronicles, the original Resistance: Fall of Man (twice the game the sequel is, in my opinion), and MLB 08: The Show. When you're talking new unit sales, you count the whole history of notable exclusives, not just the last month or two of holiday attention-grabbers.

Could you post the latest PAL charts?

AbsoluteZero

Calling -$379 million a net profit is being awful optimistic.

cloudeagle

Can do. If there's any other outdated things that need updating, just point me to the info.

lowlylowlycook

Reposting UK chart

Week 50, 2008 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (01) WII Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo)
02 (02) NDS Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
03 (03) 360 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
04 (05) WII Wii Play (Nintendo)
05 (04) WII Wii Fit (Nintendo)
06 (21) PS3 LittleBigPlanet (Sony Computer Ent.)
07 (06) PS3 Call Of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard)
08 (07) 360 Gears Of War 2 (Microsoft)
09 (08) 360 Fallout 3 (Bethesda Softworks)
10 (14) NDS More Brain Training From Dr Kawashima (Nintendo)
11 (13) WII Animal Crossing: Let's Go To The City (Nintendo)
12 (19) 360 Kung Fu Panda (Activision Blizzard)
13 (20) 360 Lego Indiana Jones: Original Adventures (Lucasarts)
14 (10) PS3 Resistance 2 (Sony Computer Ent.)
15 (34) WII Rayman Raving Rabbids Tv Party (Ubisoft)
16 (18) WII Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
17 (15) 360 Need For Speed: Undercover (Electronic Arts)
18 (12) NDS Nintendogs: Lab & Friends (Nintendo)
19 (11) WII Wii Music (Nintendo)
20 (31) NDS Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What To Eat? (Nintendo)
21 (24) PS3 Fifa 09 (Electronic Arts)
22 (25) PS3 Need For Speed: Undercover (Electronic Arts)
23 (29) 360 Far Cry 2 (Ubisoft)
24 (37) 360 Lips (Microsoft)
25 (32) PC Football Manager 2009 (Sega)
26 (23) 360 Fifa 09 (Electronic Arts)
27 (38) PS3 Fallout 3 (Bethesda Softworks)
28 (16) WII Guinness World Records: The Videogame (Warner Bros. Interactive)
29 (__) WII Sonic Unleashed (Sega)
30 (26) NDS High School Musical 3: Senior Year (Disney Interactive Studios)
31 (28) 360 Project Gotham Racing 4 (Microsoft)
32 (27) WII Carnival: Funfair Games (Take 2)
33 (17) 360 Tomb Raider: Underworld (Eidos)
34 (39) NDS Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
35 (22) NDS Big Brain Academy (Nintendo)
36 (__) WII High School Musical 3: Senior Year Dance (Disney Interactive Studios)
37 (__) WII Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard)
38 (__) NDS New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
39 (33) 360 Sega Superstars Tennis (Sega)
40 (36) WII Shaun White Snowboarding (Ubisoft)

So apparently LBP has been on sale in the UK, explaining the jump.

Couscous

So apparently LBP has been on sale in the UK, explaining the jump.

There has also been advertising for it, and we are getting closer to Christmas. The Raving Rabbids, PS3 fallout, and Cooking Guide games also saw large boosts.

This is about the all formats UK chart:

One week to go until the All Formats Christmas Chart and the top 3 games are all non-movers, with sales of ‘Call of Duty: World at War’ rising by 2%, ‘Mario Kart Wii’ sales up by 1% and ‘FIFA 09’ sales down 1%.

The gap between Call of Duty at No1 and Mario Kart Wii at No2 is 27,000 units, leaving Nintendo with it all to do in the coming week in order to claim what would be the Japanese giant’s first Christmas No1 since N64 ‘Zelda Ocarina of Time’ 10 years ago. If Activision Blizzard can hold on to the No1 spot for another week they will claim the longest uninterrupted All Formats chart topping run-in for a Christmas No1, with 6 consecutive weeks. Sales of the Top 6 games are relatively flat, meaning a 3% rise in sales for ‘Need for Speed: Undercover’ is enough to drive it up one place to No4, while a 3% drop in ‘Brain Training’ sales pushes it down one place to No5. The price-promoted ‘Fallout 3’ is still a Top 10 contender with sales up 6%, rising from No7 to No6. Nintendo still have 4 Top 10 games with ‘Wii Play’ up 16% in sales, up from No9 to No7 and ‘Wii Fit’ (-5%) holding at No8. ‘Guitar Hero: World Tour’ is on song this week, sales up 18%, rising from No10 to No9, while ‘Tomb Raider: Underworld’ almost slips out of the Top 10, down from No6 to No10.

As is normal for this week of the year there are no new entries that make the Top 40, but outside the All Formats Top 10 there are several strong climbers, including the bundled ‘Lego Indiana Jones’ (+31%) up from No13 to No11, ‘Sonic Unleashed’ (+87%) up from No33 to No12, the competitively priced ‘Quantum of Solace’ (+53%) up from No27 to No13 and ‘LittleBigPlanet’ up from No29 to No16 (sales up 58%, handing it No1 in the PS3 Chart ahead of CoD).

cloudeagle

Also not many new releases and relatively unchanged sales volume, which gives greater room for re-arranging.

Couscous

http://www.edge-online.com/news/analyst-gta-revs-drop-50-next-year
Captain Fucking Obvious to the rescue!

Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter estimated in a Monday research note that Take-Two's GTA-related revenues will drop by about half in fiscal 2009 when compared to fiscal 2008.

"A decline of this magnitude, offset in part by growth in the rest of the company’s business, will impact earnings by around 60 cents per share," he wrote.

Pachter added, "At the same time, the contracts of key Rockstar employees Sam and Dan Houser expire in February 2009; we question whether Take-Two can retain them, and if so, at what cost."

At noon EST, Take-Two shares were down 8 percent to $11.40.

Take-Two recently announced that Xbox 360-exclusive GTA IV add-on content, "The Lost and Damned," would be available for download February 17. Pachter expects revenue from the DLC to be "modest," while re-orders for GTA are projected to be minimal, he said.

Today, the publisher confirmed a March release date for GTA: Chinatown Wars for Nintendo DS.

Take-Two, whose earnings release on Wednesday, will report fiscal Q4 sales of $290 million, Pachter estimates. The publisher's Q4 guidance calls for sales in the range of $285-$335 million, with non-GAAP earnings per share of 1 to 5 cents.

The analyst expects an optimistic fiscal 2009 forecast from Take-Two management, but due to declining GTA sales and "no compelling games" in the next year, the publisher may fall short of its estimates, Pachter said. He added that Take-Two's guidance for 2009 will likely be above consensus estimates for revenue of $1.39 billion and pro forma EPS of $1.32, but he believes even those figures are too high.

He also stated that EA is not expected to renew its buyout offer for Take-Two, at least in the "next several months."

JCRooks

cloudeagle wrote: »

Also not many new releases and relatively unchanged sales volume, which gives greater room for re-arranging.

It's interesting to see some more "casual" games rising up the chart, even for non-Wii systems. Kung-Fu Panda, LEGO Indiana Jones, and even Lips seen a bump for the 360, and games like Raving Rabbids, Brain Training, Cooking Guide going up for the DS/Wii. Makes sense as gifts for the kids/family.

darleysam

cloudeagle wrote: »

Also not many new releases and relatively unchanged sales volume, which gives greater room for re-arranging.

No Prince of Persia, though

Now my day is ruined, along with my faith in my country.

Couscous

darleysam wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

Also not many new releases and relatively unchanged sales volume, which gives greater room for re-arranging.

No Prince of Persia, though

Now my day is ruined, along with my faith in my country.

I've heard it is number 20 in the all formats charts. It is a good reason why you don't see many developers releasing exclusives anymore.

Lunker

yesssssss

maximumzero

I really think Personal Trainer: Cooking is gonna be the surprise hit of the holiday seasons.

It's something really unique and it's at a perfect impulse-buy price.

cloudeagle

Made me laugh. Sadly enough I had to edit the title for spelling three times.

fragglefart

JCRooks wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

Also not many new releases and relatively unchanged sales volume, which gives greater room for re-arranging.

It's interesting to see some more "casual" games rising up the chart, even for non-Wii systems. Kung-Fu Panda, LEGO Indiana Jones, and even Lips seen a bump for the 360, and games like Raving Rabbids, Brain Training, Cooking Guide going up for the DS/Wii. Makes sense as gifts for the kids/family.

Kung-Fu Panda and LEGO Indiana Jones have been joined at the hip in a whole suite of cheap deals, some including pads, bundled with new consoles etc. They will find their way into many homes this Xmas, mine included (my bro has bought them for me on the uber-cheap!)

OLOL casual 360.

Sheep

Couscous wrote: »

Could you post the latest PAL charts?

For some reason, people like this guy don't understand what a system seller is.

The game that was released six months ago that didn't convince your buddy to buy the PS3 isn't gonna work when he rolls around and says, "What should I get a PS3 for?"

I generally take that to mean "What games are coming out for it that are cool looking?"

Rakai

JCRooks wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

Also not many new releases and relatively unchanged sales volume, which gives greater room for re-arranging.

It's interesting to see some more "casual" games rising up the chart, even for non-Wii systems. Kung-Fu Panda, LEGO Indiana Jones, and even Lips seen a bump for the 360, and games like Raving Rabbids, Brain Training, Cooking Guide going up for the DS/Wii. Makes sense as gifts for the kids/family.

I'm fairly certain that they're counting package deals hence Kung-Fu Panda and LEGO Indiana Jones are charting at the same spot. Also, the relative failure of PoP, ME, and Dead Space is calling for a change in labeling. 360/PS3 gamers aren't "core" gamers, they're mainstream and everyone needs a bitch slap for not buying those games.

pslong9

Couscous wrote: »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/15/AR2008121500870.html

And finally, "the PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console." Really? I guess CNN's not familiar (or perhaps just not partial to) exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, Wipeout HD, Valkyria Chronicles, the original Resistance: Fall of Man (twice the game the sequel is, in my opinion), and MLB 08: The Show. When you're talking new unit sales, you count the whole history of notable exclusives, not just the last month or two of holiday attention-grabbers.

Wow... list warz in a published article? I thought that was only a "valid" form of analysis on message boards. Also, I like how LBP isn't one of the exclusives listed, but Valkyria Chronicles is.

Hedgethorn

Couscous wrote: »

You might remember the stupid article saying that the "PS3 is doomed, abloo, abloo." Now you have a response to it!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/15/AR2008121500870.html

Then there's the PlayStation brand overall, which when you factor in the PSP and PS2, topped 1 million units, more than the Xbox 360's 836,000. The PlayStation brand has in fact pretty easily muscled past the Xbox brand practically every month since the PS3's launch.

Could you post the latest PAL charts?

Hurrah! Combined, three consoles manage to outsell one! Three cheers for the PlayStation brand!

lowlylowlycook

I hope you guys don't mind if I bring this stuff over from the last thread.

Next I'm planning to get EA's and maybe even THQ's platform splits from 3 years after the last gen started. That is, see how long PS1 games stuck around in publishers' sales after the PS2 launched.

JCRooks wrote: »

2. Can you distinguish revenue between the specific platforms?

So here is some raw stuff from the THQ report. Even so I stripped out a ton of stuff to make it readable.
The problems with using this stuff in detail is that not every company is going to break things down in the same exact way.

Platform ..................................2008 2007 
Consoles
Microsoft Xbox 360 . . . . . . . .  12.6% 13.1% 
Microsoft Xbox . . . . . . . . . . . .   0.2   2.7
Nintendo Wii . . . . . . . . . . . . .    8.9   2.9 
Nintendo GameCube . . . . . . .    0.7   5.1 
Sony PlayStation 3 . . . . . . . . .   8.3   —
Sony PlayStation 2 . . . . . . . . . 24.5  29.7 

Handheld
Nintendo Dual Screen . . . . . . 22.0  11.1 
Nintendo Game Boy Advance . 3.6  11.7 
Sony PlayStation Portable . . . .8.2  6.4 
Wireless . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 2.6 

PC . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9.1  14.6 
Other . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.0 0.1

Anyway that is a LOT of PS2 software IMO.



From EA's annual report

2008 2007 2006
Year Ended March 31,
Consoles
PlayStation 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $ 601 $ 886 $1,127
Xbox 360 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 589 480 140
Wii . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 302 65 —
PLAYSTATION 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 282 94 —
Xbox . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19 157 400
Nintendo GameCube . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 60 135
Other Consoles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . — — 1
Total Consoles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1,799 1,742 1,803
PC . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430 498 418
Mobility
Nintendo DS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 231 104 67
PSP. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 185 258 252
Cellular Handsets. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 148 140 19
Game Boy Advance and Game Boy Color . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 38 55
Total Mobility . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 572 540 393

Again we have a lot of PS2 sales for FY 2008 beating out all the other platforms. And PS3 games sales being so close to Wii sales really shows how unprepared for Nintendomination EA really was.

UncleSporky

maximumzero wrote: »

I really think Personal Trainer: Cooking is gonna be the surprise hit of the holiday seasons.

It's something really unique and it's at a perfect impulse-buy price.

I know I bought two copies for my sisters, they both want to learn to cook. Maybe it won't be the best thing for that but it looks like a neat tool.

However I doubt it will be a hit, and is it even tracked as a video game? I guess it would be...

Santa Claustrophobia

Rakai wrote: »

JCRooks wrote: »

cloudeagle wrote: »

Also not many new releases and relatively unchanged sales volume, which gives greater room for re-arranging.

It's interesting to see some more "casual" games rising up the chart, even for non-Wii systems. Kung-Fu Panda, LEGO Indiana Jones, and even Lips seen a bump for the 360, and games like Raving Rabbids, Brain Training, Cooking Guide going up for the DS/Wii. Makes sense as gifts for the kids/family.

I'm fairly certain that they're counting package deals hence Kung-Fu Panda and LEGO Indiana Jones are charting at the same spot. Also, the relative failure of PoP, ME, and Dead Space is calling for a change in labeling. 360/PS3 gamers aren't "core" gamers, they're mainstream and everyone needs a bitch slap for not buying those games.

PoP is too easy. ME is too short. Dead Space just sucks. Or something... Probably not accurate (unless it is...).

Sheep

I wasn't too impressed with ME.

Nice concept, but every time I actually had to fight someone, I hated it. Every time the wonky mechanics resulted in my death, I hated it. They should have been more lenient with the games physics. Like Assassin's Creed or Tomb Raider. I shouldn't have to be spot on for her to grab a ledge.

fragglefart

UncleSporky wrote: »

maximumzero wrote: »

I really think Personal Trainer: Cooking is gonna be the surprise hit of the holiday seasons.

It's something really unique and it's at a perfect impulse-buy price.

I know I bought two copies for my sisters, they both want to learn to cook. Maybe it won't be the best thing for that but it looks like a neat tool.

However I doubt it will be a hit, and is it even tracked as a video game? I guess it would be...

It nearly (finally) sold me a DS Lite, had I not known a new model was incoming next year...

cloudeagle

Couscous wrote: »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/15/AR2008121500870.html

And finally, "the PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console." Really? I guess CNN's not familiar (or perhaps just not partial to) exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, Wipeout HD, Valkyria Chronicles, the original Resistance: Fall of Man (twice the game the sequel is, in my opinion), and MLB 08: The Show. When you're talking new unit sales, you count the whole history of notable exclusives, not just the last month or two of holiday attention-grabbers.

Wish I could get paid for paraphrasing Sony's press releases.

Santa Claustrophobia

cloudeagle wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/15/AR2008121500870.html

And finally, "the PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console." Really? I guess CNN's not familiar (or perhaps just not partial to) exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, Wipeout HD, Valkyria Chronicles, the original Resistance: Fall of Man (twice the game the sequel is, in my opinion), and MLB 08: The Show. When you're talking new unit sales, you count the whole history of notable exclusives, not just the last month or two of holiday attention-grabbers.

Wish I could get paid for paraphrasing Sony's press releases.

MLB 08: The Show? Really? Video Game Baseball is that much more compelling on the PS3 than anywhere else? Really?

JCRooks

lowlylowlycook wrote: »

Again we have a lot of PS2 sales for FY 2008 beating out all the other platforms. And PS3 games sales being so close to Wii sales really shows how unprepared for Nintendomination EA really was.

Well, I agree with "unprepared", but I'm curious why Wii sales aren't that high? Is it because they simply haven't made as many as they should? Or did the titles they produce just tank? For example, how did the MySims franchise do? Did they expect the Wii versions of Facebreaker or the All-Play lineup of EA Sports games to sell better than they actually did?

Hedgethorn

cloudeagle wrote: »

Couscous wrote: »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/15/AR2008121500870.html

And finally, "the PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console." Really? I guess CNN's not familiar (or perhaps just not partial to) exclusives like Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, Ratchet & Clank Future, Wipeout HD, Valkyria Chronicles, the original Resistance: Fall of Man (twice the game the sequel is, in my opinion), and MLB 08: The Show. When you're talking new unit sales, you count the whole history of notable exclusives, not just the last month or two of holiday attention-grabbers.

Wish I could get paid for paraphrasing Sony's press releases.

Don't sell yourself short. If you were a writer for PC World like the author of that article, you could get paid for paraphrasing press releases from lots of different companies!

Brainiac 8

JCRooks wrote: »

lowlylowlycook wrote: »

Again we have a lot of PS2 sales for FY 2008 beating out all the other platforms. And PS3 games sales being so close to Wii sales really shows how unprepared for Nintendomination EA really was.

Well, I agree with "unprepared", but I'm curious why Wii sales aren't that high? Is it because they simply haven't made as many as they should? Or did the titles they produce just tank? For example, how did the MySims franchise do? Did they expect the Wii versions of Facebreaker or the All-Play lineup of EA Sports games to sell better than they actually did?

According to EA a while back, MySims did very well. I know that it broke 5-600K....heck, I wouldn't be surprised if it did better than that. It sold well enough that EA made a sequel, and it is actually a really fun game.

Couscous

Did they expect the Wii versions of Facebreaker or the All-Play lineup of EA Sports games to sell better than they actually did?

Facebreaker was a huge flop on all consoles.

The game was released on September 4, 2008. As of October 2008, the game has sold 52,000 units in Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 combined.

Yeah...

Brainiac 8

Yow, that has gotta hurt.

mynameisguido

Though I know this thread tends to be console-centric, I found a list of the top PC game sales for November. Very little should be shocking in the list: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/56329

1. World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King / Blizzard / $36 (Average)
2. World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Collector's Ed. / Blizzard / $50 (Average)
3. Call Of Duty: World At War / Treyarch / $50 (Average)
4. Spore / EA Maxis / $48 (Average)
5. Fallout 3 / Bethesda / $49 (Average)
6. World Of Warcraft: Battle Chest / Blizzard / $34 (Average)
7. The Sims 2 Deluxe / EA Maxis / $19 (Average)
8. Left 4 Dead / Valve / $48 (Average)
9. The Sims 2 Apartment Life Exp. Pack / EA Maxis / $21(Average)
10. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 / EA LA / $49 (Average)
11. World Of Warcraft / Blizzard / $18 (Average)
12. The Sims 2 Mansion & Garden Stuff Exp. / EA Maxis / $19 (Average)
13. Nancy Drew: The Haunting of Castle Malloy / Her Interactive / $20 (Avearge)
14. EverQuest II: The Shadow Odyssey / Sony Online Ent. / $40 (Average)(Average)
15. Far Cry 2 / Ubisoft Montreal / $50 (Average)
16. World Of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Expansion Pack / Blizzard / $29 (Average)
17. BioShock / 2K Boston, Australia / $14 (Average)
18. Spore Creepty & Cute Parts Pack / EA Maxis / $19 (Average)
19. IGT Slots: Little Green Men / Masque / $20 (Average)
20. Assassin's Creed / Ubisoft Montreal / $11 (Average)

Santa Claustrophobia

What? That people weren't fooled for a minute and decided not to buy the shitty Fight Night knockoff? Imagine what happens when EA decides to release a professional football title that isn't called Madden. Sooner or later, somebody will have to figure that diluting your own market is probably not the best strategy...

Jragghen

World of Warcraft topped PC sales?

Fancy that

ben0207

Is it just me, or should somebody call the Shit Creek Lifeguard, so they can go and rescue a paddleless Sony?

cloudeagle

Hm, Spore isn't kicking the shit out of every other game like the hype train suggested it would. Sure, it's doing well against WoW, but it's telling that the expansion pack is number 18 on the list.

slash000

JCRooks wrote: »

For example, how did the MySims franchise do?

I don't want to get into the middle of this discussion, but the Console sims games do really well. Sims 2 on consoles did 1M+ sales (across ds, wii, psp, ps2 in the USA), and MySims on Wii+DS did 1.8 million sales in the USA. But EA has lots of highly successful franchises on the Wii. And the All Sports games may not do super awesome, but the Tiger Woods ones do absurdly well on the Wii.

slash000

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

JCRooks wrote: »

lowlylowlycook wrote: »

Again we have a lot of PS2 sales for FY 2008 beating out all the other platforms. And PS3 games sales being so close to Wii sales really shows how unprepared for Nintendomination EA really was.

Well, I agree with "unprepared", but I'm curious why Wii sales aren't that high? Is it because they simply haven't made as many as they should? Or did the titles they produce just tank? For example, how did the MySims franchise do? Did they expect the Wii versions of Facebreaker or the All-Play lineup of EA Sports games to sell better than they actually did?

According to EA a while back, MySims did very well. I know that it broke 5-600K....heck, I wouldn't be surprised if it did better than that. It sold well enough that EA made a sequel, and it is actually a really fun game.

MySims sold 1.8 million copies across DS+Wii in the USA alone

mynameisguido

Jragghen wrote: »

World of Warcraft topped PC sales?

Fancy that

It's obviously not shocking that WoTLK is on the top of the list, but it is a bit harrowing to see OG WoW still in the top 20.