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Wall Street Journal expresses doubt over financial actions of politician

ArgusArgus Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
A.k.a. "Keynesian economics sucks, fool!"

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As January 20 nears, Barack Obama's ambitions for spending on the likes of roads, bridges and jobless benefits keep growing. The latest leak puts the "stimulus" at $1 trillion over a couple of years, and the political class is embracing it as a miracle cure.

Not to spoil the party, but this is not a new idea. Keynesian "pump-priming" in a recession has often been tried, and as an economic stimulus it is overrated. The money that the government spends has to come from somewhere, which means from the private economy in higher taxes or borrowing. The public works are usually less productive than the foregone private investment.

In the Age of Obama, we seem fated to re-explain these eternal lessons. So for today we thought we'd recount the history of the last major country that tried to spend its way to "stimulus" -- Japan during its "lost decade" of the 1990s. In 1992, Japanese Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa faced falling property prices and a stock market that had sunk 60% in three years. Mr. Miyazawa's Liberal Democratic Party won re-election promising that Japan would spend its way to becoming a "lifestyle superpower." The country embarked on a great Keynesian experiment:

August 1992: 10.7 trillion yen ($85 billion). Japan passed its largest-ever stimulus package to that time, with 8.6 trillion yen earmarked for public works, 1.2 trillion to expand loan quotas for small- and medium-sized businesses and 900 billion for the Japan Development Bank. The package passed in December, but investment kept falling and unemployment rose. By the end of the year, Japan's debt-to-GDP ratio was 68.6%.

April 1993: 13.2 trillion yen. At exchange rates of the day, this was a whopping $117 billion giveaway, again mostly for public works and small businesses. Tokyo erupted into domestic politicking over election practices, the economy went sideways, and the government fell. New Prime Minister Morihiro Hosokawa floated tax cuts, deregulation and decentralization to spur growth. But as the economy worsened -- inflation-adjusted GNP shrank 0.5% in the April to June quarter -- the political drumbeat for handouts increased.

September 1993: 6.2 trillion yen. Mr. Hosokawa announced a compromise "smaller" stimulus of $59 billion, along with minor deregulation. He dropped plans for an income-tax cut. The stimulus included 2.9 trillion yen in low-interest home financing, one trillion yen for "social infrastructure," and another trillion for business. The economy didn't respond. By the end of the year, Japan's debt-to-GDP reached 74.7%.

Is any of this beginning to sound familiar? There's more.

February 1994: 15.3 trillion yen. This stimulus included 5.8 trillion in income-tax cuts, 7.2 trillion in public investment, 1.5 trillion for small business and employment-support, 500 billion for land purchases and 230 billion for agricultural modernization. The income tax cut was temporary, effective only for 1994. The economy stagnated and Prime Minister Hosokawa resigned amid a corruption scandal. By the end of the year, debt-to-GDP was 80.2%.

September 1995: 14.2 trillion yen. The Socialist government of Tomiichi Murayama, with a wobbly coalition, rolled out a $137 billion whopper, with 4.6 trillion in public works, 3.2 trillion for government land purchases, 1.3 trillion in business loans, and more. Mr. Murayama resigned in early 1996, and in June Prime Minister Ryutaro Hashimoto agreed to raise consumption taxes to 5% from 3%, starting in April 1997, to reduce the fiscal deficit.

In 1994 and 1995, Japan spent 3.1% and 2.9% of its annual GDP, and (helped by central bank easing) the economy did respond with modest growth for about two years. Debt-to-GDP hit 87.6%.

April 1998: 16.7 trillion yen. When growth starting slowing again, the re-elected LDP turned to old medicine: 7.7 trillion yen for public works. The $128 billion grab-bag also included 2.3 trillion for the disposal of bad loans. The government announced four trillion yen in (again) temporary income-tax cuts, spread over two years. Mr. Hashimoto resigned in July after voters registered their discontent at the polls.

November 1998: 23.9 trillion yen. Desperate to get the economy moving, Prime Minister Keizo Obuchi rolled out the country's largest-ever stimulus, valued at $195 billion. The giveaway included 8.1 trillion yen in social public works, 5.9 trillion for business loans, one trillion for job-creation programs, 700 billion in cash handouts to 35 million households, and more. By the end of the year, debt-to-GDP hit 114.3%.

November 1999: 18 trillion yen. In a "last push," Mr. Obuchi's government spent 7.4 trillion yen to prop up businesses, 6.8 trillion yen for social infrastructure projects like telecommunications and environmental projects, and two trillion yen for housing loans, among other things. Debt-to-GDP reached 128.3%.

Japan's economy grow anemically over that decade, but as the nearby chart shows, its national debt exploded. Only in this decade, with a monetary reflation and Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's decision to privatize state assets and force banks to acknowledge their bad debts, did the economy recover. Yet recent governments have rolled back Mr. Koizumi's reforms and returned to their spending habits. But Japan does have better roads.

Now we're told that a similar spending program -- a new New Deal -- will revive the U.S. economy. How do you say "good luck" in Japanese?

Tl;dr- WSJ compares US President-elect Obama's plans for Keynesian "pump-priming" to Japan's attempts at stimulus from '92 to '99, suggesting that current plans will fail just the same. "Not to spoil the party, but this is not a new idea. Keynesian 'pump-priming' in a recession has often been tried, and as an economic stimulus it is overrated."

Is Keynesian "pump-priming" overrated?

Will Obama's stimulus packages do nothing?

Is the comparison to Japan valid?

Is there an economist in the house?

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  • Lord Of The PantsLord Of The Pants Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I would argue that the Japenese market wasn't performing because it was regulated and not competitive on a world stage, the economy wasn't going to go anywhere with the stimulus, but it may have died without the stimulus. What they don't list is that the financial sector was deregulated in the early 2000s which caused the economic growth.

    (As far as I know.)

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  • The Green Eyed MonsterThe Green Eyed Monster i blame hip hop Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I would argue that the Japenese market wasn't performing because it was regulated and not competitive on a world stage, the economy wasn't going to go anywhere with the stimulus, but it may have died without the stimulus. What they don't list is that the financial sector was deregulated in the early 2000s which caused the economic growth.

    (As far as I know.)
    Yeah, my layman's understanding is that the Japanese economy, as a larger system, doesn't compare that great to the US economy due to things like strong state protectionism and a certain amount of cronyism above and beyond the US Old Boy's club.

    Beyond that -- it seems a pretty baldly unfair comparison simply to say, "Overcrowded island state with population ~1/3 that of the US and a completely different socioeconomic structure didn't succeed with it, therefore we can't, never mind the original New Deal which inspired this article in the first place."

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    They also show a fundamental lack of understanding of Keynesian economics when they claim that the money has to come from somewhere, while everybody knows that the main rule of thumb of Keynesian economics is "surplus in good times, deficit when in bad."

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  • theclamtheclam Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Maybe we should drastically raise taxes, to 90% on the rich, and greatly increase spending. After all, it worked last time.

    The Wall Street Journal's editorial page has the same answers to every single economic event: cut taxes, decrease spending, deregulate.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    theclam wrote: »

    The Wall Street Journal's editorial page has the same answers to every single economic event: cut taxes, decrease spending, deregulate.

    I just finished an introductory economics course, and one of the first things our professor told us after we all had the requisite WSJ subscription was that there's pretty much only one kind of WSJ editorial writer--the kind clam just described.

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    theclam wrote: »
    Maybe we should drastically raise taxes, to 90% on the rich, and greatly increase spending. After all, it worked last time.

    Yeah, it worked. It worked until it stopped working.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The New Deal is vastly oversold. It didn't so much turn things around as slow the downward momentum. Pearl Harbor turned things around.

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  • ScalfinScalfin __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    The New Deal is vastly oversold. It didn't so much turn things around as slow the downward momentum. Pearl Harbor turned things around.

    You mean when the government spent money for assembly line level workers to build stuff? Because that sounds like both the New Deal and the Obama plan.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Yeah I haven't heard anything about Obama dumping over a hundred percent of GDP into economic subsidies

    So not really

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  • theclamtheclam Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Yeah I haven't heard anything about Obama dumping over a hundred percent of GDP into economic subsidies

    So not really

    He's going to shoot for a thousand percent. That's change.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Spending over your GDP in subsidies doesn't make any sense. At least I'm pretty sure it doesn't. You'll have to excuse me, I'm rather tired.

    Regardless, Obama isn't suggesting anywhere near the level of subsidy that goes on during a classic wartime economy.

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  • DukiDuki Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Nor was much of the New Deal to do with factories at all.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    The point the WSJ is missing is that we should invest in our infrastructure because it's piss-poor anyway. The money needs to be spent, and this is a good time to spend it. Japan was more or less pissing money away, as they've always been good, post-war, about keeping their stuff reasonably up to date and well-maintained.

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  • theclamtheclam Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
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    Here's an interesting table I ran across a while back. There are a few ways to spend government money that are actually quite efficient in terms of the amount of economic growth you get per government dollar spent.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    "General Aid to State Governments" is vague enough that you could probably claim any rate of return.

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