[Source Mod] NeoTokyo: It's Not Dead! (NSF 56k)

Jaunty

If you were into the UT 2K4 modding scene back in the day you might have happened upon a little ol' mod with big dreams called NeoTokyo. A cyper-punk setting with a few homages to such anime classics as Ghost In The Shell (source of at least one of the weapon designs and a few game mechanics), it had some of the best art direction to be seen on a mod team.

Their plan was always to make the transition to the Source engine, before HL2 had even been officially released, but when the SDK hit everything quieted down significantly. Luckily for us, it turns out that it hasn't gone the way of so many other ambitious Total Conversions, as they've been releasing news pretty frequently now and have even released a trailer!

NeoTokyo

It's coming, and it looks fucking hot.
NeoTokyo Official Site
Hi-Def Trailer

chasehatesbears

I played this on UT2k4!
And it was not remarkable.
But this looks pretty neat. Any gameplay features that stand out?

Jaunty

chasehatesbears wrote: »

I played this on UT2k4!
And it was not remarkable.
But this looks pretty neat. Any gameplay features that stand out?

Not really that I can think of. From what I remember it was a solid capture-point/flag based game with three classes and wave-spawning that was good fun while the community was lively. Most of my interest comes from the setting and art style, and if I had to pick out a serious weakness I'd say that it's the team's affinity for huge maps. They look awesome but they play like shit for a burgeoning mod because of low initial server population.

Suriko

I followed this way back in the UT2K4 days. Great to see it's still alive. While I'd always thought it would work better as a singleplayer mod rather than multiplayer, it was still fun to play with a few friends.

Can't help but be amused by the fact that the objective is a cybernetic torso.

The_Scarab

Was secretly hoping for a remake of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZAoyaMduDA&feature=related

Pharezon

If only this were singleplayer.

Jaunty

Yeah it really does seem it would lend itself more to a single player game but everybody and their mother wants to do it up all multi-player like these days.

Darmak

I enjoyed this mod when it was for UT2k4 and was sad because the community was almost dead when I started playing it. Hopefully this is as fun and I can fuck around and have a good time. At any rate it certainly looks nice, I'm not a huge anime fan or anything but I love the style this has going for it. :^:

I haven't checked the main site yet but any idea on when it's going to be released?

Dartboy

For a second, I thought one of those screenshots had a gun with a bunch of LCD screens popping out of it. I am disappointed this is not the case.

Buttcleft

Why does that robot have nipples.

Pointy nipples.

Dixon

There guns...the pointy nipple is the barrel. No one expects to get shot like that

Jaunty

Darmak wrote: »

I enjoyed this mod when it was for UT2k4 and was sad because the community was almost dead when I started playing it. Hopefully this is as fun and I can fuck around and have a good time. At any rate it certainly looks nice, I'm not a huge anime fan or anything but I love the style this has going for it. :^:

I haven't checked the main site yet but any idea on when it's going to be released?

Don't think so, but they've been all but silent for a few years now and suddenly the updates are coming thick and fast, so that's a good sign I guess.

Gibb

The_Scarab wrote: »

Was secretly hoping for a remake of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZAoyaMduDA&feature=related

"Cross Now"

Oh my god, that level is ace. Totally Blade Runner.

Faffel

Jaunty wrote: »

Yeah it really does seem it would lend itself more to a single player game but everybody and their mother wants to do it up all multi-player like these days.

Apparently you weren't very active in the modding communities. This is not a new trend. This game looks awesome and will hopefully play better than Dystopia.

Also, cyberpunk is not fucking anime. Unless, you know, Gibson is secretly Japanese.

Iriah

why is Japan the only possible location for cyberpunk

what the fuck, genre, what have you done to yourself

Zombiemambo

Faffel wrote: »

Jaunty wrote: »

Yeah it really does seem it would lend itself more to a single player game but everybody and their mother wants to do it up all multi-player like these days.

Apparently you weren't very active in the modding communities. This is not a new trend. This game looks awesome and will hopefully play better than Dystopia.

Also, cyberpunk is not fucking anime. Unless, you know, Gibson is secretly Japanese.

I don't think anyone is claiming cyberpunk is anime. But even Bladerunner had Japanese influences in it.

Faffel

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

Jaunty wrote: »

Yeah it really does seem it would lend itself more to a single player game but everybody and their mother wants to do it up all multi-player like these days.

Apparently you weren't very active in the modding communities. This is not a new trend. This game looks awesome and will hopefully play better than Dystopia.

Also, cyberpunk is not fucking anime. Unless, you know, Gibson is secretly Japanese.

I don't think anyone is claiming cyberpunk is anime. But even Bladerunner had Japanese influences in it.

"I'm not a huge anime fan or anything but I love the style this has going for it."

Sounds confused to say the least. Also, wasn't Blade Runner a heavily Chinese/Korean culture and not Japanese? Gibson's cyberpunk was more Japanese.

Sorenson

Iriah wrote: »

why is Japan the only possible location for cyberpunk

what the fuck, genre, what have you done to yourself

Because nobody gives a fuck about Seattle, I'd guess.

Just think about it, it's almost like an instilled reaction. Seattle? Whats it got going for it? Coffee, some romance movies or somesuch? Pffft.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and grunge.

Buttcleft

Stop saying bladerunner god damnit.

or I'm going to have to go buy the damn dvd and watch it again.

Darmak

Faffel wrote: »

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

Jaunty wrote: »

Yeah it really does seem it would lend itself more to a single player game but everybody and their mother wants to do it up all multi-player like these days.

Apparently you weren't very active in the modding communities. This is not a new trend. This game looks awesome and will hopefully play better than Dystopia.

Also, cyberpunk is not fucking anime. Unless, you know, Gibson is secretly Japanese.

I don't think anyone is claiming cyberpunk is anime. But even Bladerunner had Japanese influences in it.

"I'm not a huge anime fan or anything but I love the style this has going for it."

Sounds confused to say the least. Also, wasn't Blade Runner a heavily Chinese/Korean culture and not Japanese? Gibson's cyberpunk was more Japanese.

How does that sound confused? This definitely has an anime style going for it and I like that, even if I don't like a lot of anime.

Also, nowhere did I mention anything about cyberpunk.

Zombiemambo

Faffel wrote: »

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

Jaunty wrote: »

Yeah it really does seem it would lend itself more to a single player game but everybody and their mother wants to do it up all multi-player like these days.

Apparently you weren't very active in the modding communities. This is not a new trend. This game looks awesome and will hopefully play better than Dystopia.

Also, cyberpunk is not fucking anime. Unless, you know, Gibson is secretly Japanese.

I don't think anyone is claiming cyberpunk is anime. But even Bladerunner had Japanese influences in it.

"I'm not a huge anime fan or anything but I love the style this has going for it."

Sounds confused to say the least. Also, wasn't Blade Runner a heavily Chinese/Korean culture and not Japanese? Gibson's cyberpunk was more Japanese.

Well this has an obvious anime influence, and also happens to be cyberpunk.

Faffel

I don't really see anime here and I used to be quite a weeaboo. It's more... futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. It's anime in the same way that anything involving Japan is influenced by anime, I suppose.

Darmak

And I'm sure there's never been an anime made with a futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. :P

Zombiemambo

Faffel wrote: »

I don't really see anime here and I used to be quite a weeaboo. It's more... futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. It's anime in the same way that anything involving Japan is influenced by anime, I suppose.

Anime is perhaps the wrong word. Japanese might be more appropriate.

Faffel

But that doesn't mean that this is heavily influenced by anime simply because anime has used the same setting. I mean, I'm sure it is heavily influenced by anime because I certainly wouldn't care to make something about Japan after I finished with my anime obsession. But your reasons for claiming that are silly and it doesn't come forth in the visual presentation, nor the subject matter.

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

I don't really see anime here and I used to be quite a weeaboo. It's more... futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. It's anime in the same way that anything involving Japan is influenced by anime, I suppose.

Anime is perhaps the wrong word. Japanese might be more appropriate.

Perfect.

Zombiemambo

Faffel I think you should just leave this one alone. It's all semantics.

Buttcleft

Okay, everythings been done before and will be redone again despite having no connection or inspiration from the previous items that had done the items which henceforth will inevitably done again.

Sparrow

Looks kinda like Dystopia, minus the super high tech and awesome Cyber space bits.

Although the art direction is fucking ace.

chasehatesbears

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

I don't really see anime here and I used to be quite a weeaboo. It's more... futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. It's anime in the same way that anything involving Japan is influenced by anime, I suppose.

Anime is perhaps the wrong word. Japanese might be more appropriate.

Most of Japan is actually does have a futuristic cyberpunk theme.

At least that's what I've heard.

AresProphet

chasehatesbears wrote: »

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

I don't really see anime here and I used to be quite a weeaboo. It's more... futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. It's anime in the same way that anything involving Japan is influenced by anime, I suppose.

Anime is perhaps the wrong word. Japanese might be more appropriate.

Most of Japan is actually does have a futuristic cyberpunk theme.

At least that's what I've heard.

The cyberpunk = japanese thing is mostly a result of cyberpunk originating in the 80s and early 90s, when Japanese companies were routinely ahead of American ones when it came to technology. The corporocentric (I just made that word up) culture in Japan plus the tendency of Japanese companies to be the first to market new technologies to consumers made Japan the place for semi-dystopian futurisitic fiction.

At the time it made perfect sense that in the future every high-tech company would be Japanese, and if corporations kept getting bigger and bigger (as was the trend) then eventually they'd supplant nations as the dominant political structure.

In hindsight this is all a bit silly, but cyberpunk hasn't really let go of its roots. Mostly because Gibson was one hell of a founding father for the genre and everyone wants to be as awesome as him.

Faffel

chasehatesbears wrote: »

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

I don't really see anime here and I used to be quite a weeaboo. It's more... futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. It's anime in the same way that anything involving Japan is influenced by anime, I suppose.

Anime is perhaps the wrong word. Japanese might be more appropriate.

Most of Japan is actually does have a futuristic cyberpunk theme.

At least that's what I've heard.

I just hate hearing the word anime used to describe anything vaguely Japanese. Fuck anime, it's not the only thing Japan has to offer. I also hate Japanophiles who think that because of anime, everything else related to Japan is automatically superior.

It's a fascinating, vastly different culture, but they didn't create futuristic settings and anime isn't the reason Japan is great. Putting kanji characters on buildings and a Japanese skin over generic sci-fi city 1001 does not make it anime.

Iriah

Snow Crash was way better cyberpunk that Neuromancer!

edit: if anyone disagrees I'm sure you can be made to see Reason.

Faffel

Iriah wrote: »

Snow Crash was way better cyberpunk that Neuromancer!

edit: if anyone disagrees I'm sure you can be made to see Reason.

I've read Snow Crash a few times but thought it was kind of juvenile and simple compared to Neuromancer. I read Neuromancer once when I was 13, then again this year and it really engrossed me this time around.

Reason sure is great, though. But not as great as Wintermute.

Iriah

It's juvenile because it's satirising the complete seriousness of Neuromancer! If anything, Neuromancer is kind of silly - everyone does drugs, everyone is unlikeable, everything is awful. Well, except for the space-Rastafarians.

Faffel

Iriah wrote: »

It's juvenile because it's satirising the complete seriousness of Neuromancer! If anything, Neuromancer is kind of silly - everyone does drugs, everyone is unlikeable, everything is awful. Well, except for the space-Rastafarians.

Space Rastas are the shit. Also, I thought Neuromancer's characters were really likable. There's a real aura of anti-charisma surrounding the whole thing.

I dunno. I enjoyed Snow Crash more when I first read it when I was quite a bit younger. Uncle Enzo was fantastic, though.

Jaunty

Although they did say that Ghost in the Shell was a major influence back in the 2K4 days, it has no direct affiliation with any anime and is very much its own game. If you're thinking "well, I'm not really into that whole scene with the kids these days and their animes" don't give it a pass! It stands well on its own and that's speaking from a pre-beta proof of concept mod they released out of boredom while waiting for source to drop.

Zombiemambo

Faffel wrote: »

chasehatesbears wrote: »

Zombiemambo wrote: »

Faffel wrote: »

I don't really see anime here and I used to be quite a weeaboo. It's more... futuristic Japan with a heavy corporate cyberpunk bend. It's anime in the same way that anything involving Japan is influenced by anime, I suppose.

Anime is perhaps the wrong word. Japanese might be more appropriate.

Most of Japan is actually does have a futuristic cyberpunk theme.

At least that's what I've heard.

I just hate hearing the word anime used to describe anything vaguely Japanese. Fuck anime, it's not the only thing Japan has to offer. I also hate Japanophiles who think that because of anime, everything else related to Japan is automatically superior.

It's a fascinating, vastly different culture, but they didn't create futuristic settings and anime isn't the reason Japan is great. Putting kanji characters on buildings and a Japanese skin over generic sci-fi city 1001 does not make it anime.

I totally agree with you here but you shouldn't make something out of nothing.

A duck!

Buttcleft wrote: »

Why does that robot have nipples.

Pointy nipples.

Ghost in the Shell is why.

DuoRCN

Glad to see this mod is still in the works. I remember seeing it back in 05 and thinking it looked cool.

Olivaw

Faffel wrote: »

Iriah wrote: »

Snow Crash was way better cyberpunk that Neuromancer!

edit: if anyone disagrees I'm sure you can be made to see Reason.

I've read Snow Crash a few times but thought it was kind of juvenile and simple compared to Neuromancer. I read Neuromancer once when I was 13, then again this year and it really engrossed me this time around.

Reason sure is great, though. But not as great as Wintermute.

They both suck compared to the Hendrix



Also Blade Runner used a lot of asian characters and symbols, not just Japanese

And what the fuck, of course it's cyberpunk, it's just more heavily influenced by Ghost in the Shell than anything else, and Ghost in the Shell happens to be an anime

Anyway, I hope that it is fun because it looks cool as fuck, but there have been mods before that have disappointed on that front

edit: oh, one thing that no one's mentioned: the mod is getting it's own OST

I've listened to a bit and it's not bad. Little generic, but better than most other mods music

randombattle

What will set this apart from Dystopia?