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I've had a soundblaster audigy for a while now but I don't like how it sounds at all, and I've tried several different kinds of speakers/headphones. I mainly need it for music listening, but I'd like to play the occasional game as well without running into driver issues.
Id love to recommend a dedicated sound card (Audigy, Asus Xonar, X-Fi, etc) but now a days game developers don't really include support for EAX in games and such anymore.
So in my opinion, unless you don't have on-board already and don't do any serious audio editing, any cheap < $50 sound card will do just fine.
BTW how many channels will you be running (5.1, 2.1, headphone etc)?
I should have made it clear that I don't really care about audio performance in games. I don't even know what EAX is! All I want is a sound card with excellent sound quality that won't have driver issues with games.
Or you can get a basic OEM X-Fi card. These are the best on the market right now. They have some good quality & power. I have an older discontinued model but I still love it.
That looks pretty great, thanks. Do you have any other suggestions? Not that I don't like that one but I'd like to have some options.
M-audio has some popular options available, although the E-MU card is nicer IMO http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-Audiophile-2496-PCI-Digital-Audio-Card?sku=701341
That one is what they used in the student music labs at UofT, whereas the E-MU one I showed you was used (with the optional external expansion*) in the main recording studio and the teacher's personal lab - like I said, it's also the one I use
*this is what the studio used - the same internal PCI card as the 1212m, but with the external I/O box instead of the internal I/O card that I linked to before. http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=505&subcategory=491&product=15189
If you're mega intense, you can have the internal I/O from the 1212m and the external I/O from the 1616m - and even add a internal wordclock I/O card as well for quadruple hardcore audio goodness.
Or if your onboard has spdif out you can always get an external DAC. This is a simple way to upgrade the sound quality and get the DAC outside the case without worrying about compatability issues... problem is, external DACs can get real pricey. This is one of the few ones in the realm of affordability. http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-SRC2496-ULTRAMATCH-PRO-Converter?sku=182480
Yeah a DAC is way out of my price range. I leave all of my expensive purchases for my portable rig anyway, since that's what I listen to 6-7 hours a day.
I've never thought about an external sound card before. That's an interesting point about internal interference but I don't think the environment I'll be listening in is quiet enough to tell the difference!
Thanks for your help, I think I'm gonna go read some reviews on those cards now
i'd like to ask a couple of questions while we're on the subject of soundcards and onboard.
1. does onboard sound use noticeably more resources than a PCI card, being that the motherboard/cpu is dealing with it more directly ?
2. is onboard sound the reason i get quiet 'hums' and 'buzzes' when i move my usb mouse around or scroll with the mouse wheel ?
3. are there any cheap soundboards with 0 latency recording inputs ? even plugging my guitar directly into the line-in of my current setup results in something like a half second delay between playing and recording - this makes multi tracking incredibly annoying.
i'd like to ask a couple of questions while we're on the subject of soundcards and onboard.
1. does onboard sound use noticeably more resources than a PCI card, being that the motherboard/cpu is dealing with it more directly ?
2. is onboard sound the reason i get quiet 'hums' and 'buzzes' when i move my usb mouse around or scroll with the mouse wheel ?
3. are there any cheap soundboards with 0 latency recording inputs ? even plugging my guitar directly into the line-in of my current setup results in something like a half second delay between playing and recording - this makes multi tracking incredibly annoying.
1. Some PCI cards have onboard acceleration, some do not. The answer is maybe.
2. Possibly. I don't know for sure.
3. I doubt you can get 0 latency on a computer. If you're using proper drivers (ASIO) you should be able to reduce it to about 2 milliseconds. What I would suggest trying before you spend any money is ASIO4ALL - it's a WDM wrapper compatible with (theoretically) all sound cards http://www.asio4all.com/
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So in my opinion, unless you don't have on-board already and don't do any serious audio editing, any cheap < $50 sound card will do just fine.
BTW how many channels will you be running (5.1, 2.1, headphone etc)?
And I'll be running 2.1 and headphones.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/EMu-1212M-v2-PCI-Digital-Audio-System?sku=241213
Or you can get a basic OEM X-Fi card. These are the best on the market right now. They have some good quality & power. I have an older discontinued model but I still love it.
M-audio has some popular options available, although the E-MU card is nicer IMO
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/MAudio-Audiophile-2496-PCI-Digital-Audio-Card?sku=701341
That one is what they used in the student music labs at UofT, whereas the E-MU one I showed you was used (with the optional external expansion*) in the main recording studio and the teacher's personal lab - like I said, it's also the one I use
*this is what the studio used - the same internal PCI card as the 1212m, but with the external I/O box instead of the internal I/O card that I linked to before.
http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?category=505&subcategory=491&product=15189
If you're mega intense, you can have the internal I/O from the 1212m and the external I/O from the 1616m - and even add a internal wordclock I/O card as well for quadruple hardcore audio goodness.
I don't have any experience with this one, but it looks worth checking out...
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Echo-MIA-MIDI-Digital-Audio-and-MIDI-Card?sku=247016
I do have some musician friends who use external sound cards in their setup... options start quite cheaply here, and external sound cards are a good option because then the electron soup inside your case doesn't contaminate the audio :P
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-UCONTROL-UCA202-USBAudio-Interface?sku=702540
Or a step up...
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-FCA202-F-Control-FireWire-Audio-Interface?sku=240108
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tapco-Link.USB-USB-Audio-Interface?sku=241524
Or if your onboard has spdif out you can always get an external DAC. This is a simple way to upgrade the sound quality and get the DAC outside the case without worrying about compatability issues... problem is, external DACs can get real pricey. This is one of the few ones in the realm of affordability.
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-SRC2496-ULTRAMATCH-PRO-Converter?sku=182480
I've never thought about an external sound card before. That's an interesting point about internal interference but I don't think the environment I'll be listening in is quiet enough to tell the difference!
Thanks for your help, I think I'm gonna go read some reviews on those cards now
1. does onboard sound use noticeably more resources than a PCI card, being that the motherboard/cpu is dealing with it more directly ?
2. is onboard sound the reason i get quiet 'hums' and 'buzzes' when i move my usb mouse around or scroll with the mouse wheel ?
3. are there any cheap soundboards with 0 latency recording inputs ? even plugging my guitar directly into the line-in of my current setup results in something like a half second delay between playing and recording - this makes multi tracking incredibly annoying.
1. Some PCI cards have onboard acceleration, some do not. The answer is maybe.
2. Possibly. I don't know for sure.
3. I doubt you can get 0 latency on a computer. If you're using proper drivers (ASIO) you should be able to reduce it to about 2 milliseconds. What I would suggest trying before you spend any money is ASIO4ALL - it's a WDM wrapper compatible with (theoretically) all sound cards http://www.asio4all.com/