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Does Having Innuendo in Ads Cheapen Sex?

emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
When you think of fast food, you think of Ronald McDonald and fried chicken strips. When you're ordering your Whopper combo, the last thing on your mind is how your value meal can be sexed up. So why are fast food ads slowly filling with innuendo?

Kinky Roleplaying!
Wife Swapping!
Bestiality!
They're attention-grabbing, sure, especially for fast food commercials, but isn't it pushing our perceptions of sex in all sorts of directions, many of them wrong? Fast food is quick, meaningless, full of empty (delicious) calories - why should it be associated with tender, fire-side love making in any way? Advertisers have been relying on 'Sex sells!' for so long ... are these ads harmless attempts at humor or are they causing a slow-paced degeneration towards the drive-thru brothels seen in the movie Idiocracy?

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  • PodlyPodly you unzipped me! it's all coming back! i don't like it!Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm pretty sure that there are less brothels now than there ever have been

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Sex has clearly gotten so cheap that most people aren't even willing to pay for it anymore.

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  • MrMisterMrMister Jesus dying on the cross in pain? Morally better than us. One has to go "all in".Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I dislike these ads, but mainly because they're gross. Much like how I don't want to see the Charmin bears shitting themselves, I also don't want to see Mr. Arby's pop a tophat-boner when he sees his wife tarted up like a wage-slave at his favorite restaurant.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    The second one made me laugh. The third was dumb.

    It's ridiculous to view these ads as even halfway controversial when people don't think twice when they see someone getting shot on a TV show or ad.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I think it cheapens my breakfast bowl from Jack in the Box.

    My question is... is there a way we can blame this on gay marriage?

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    That Arby's commercial is absolutely terrible. I don't know who thought it was a good idea, but it makes me vomit every time I see it.

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  • zeenyzeeny Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    They're attention-grabbing, sure, especially for fast food commercials, but isn't it pushing our perceptions of sex in all sorts of directions, many of them wrong?

    No. Those are ads. Ads tend not to push a sane person's perceptions of sex in "all sorts of directions".
    Fast food is quick, meaningless, full of empty (delicious) calories - so why should it be associated with tender, fire-side love making in any way?

    I watched the ads, I still have trouble associating the two things.
    Advertisers have been relying on 'Sex sells!' for so long ... are these ads harmless attempts at humor or are they causing a quick degeneration towards the drive-thru brothels seen in the movie Idiocracy?

    Unfortunately, no.

    Edit: And yeah, those are some pretty bad ads.

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  • zeenyzeeny Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Podly wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that there are less brothels now than there ever have been

    True. Why would you go to a brothel when you can just make a phone call?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    No, last time I priced 19-year-old "full service deep tissue massage experts" on Craigslist, they cost just as much as they usually do.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm also not sure why you think sex has to mean the same thing to everyone else that it does to you, emnmnemenmnem. Or why it has to mean the same thing every time you do it in order to mean anything any time you do it. You're sort of skipping over the logic behind how that works. The classic cop-out "sex is inherently an emotional connection" won't work here, either, since you're claiming that fast-food commercials of all things are undoing what you would be alleging to be a fundamental property.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    zeeny wrote:
    No. Those are ads. Ads tend not to push a sane person's perceptions of sex in "all sorts of directions".

    Ads manipulate emotions. If an ad doesn't fill me with desire for a double patty cheeseburger or a deep dish pizza, the ad has failed.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm also not sure why you think sex has to mean the same thing to everyone else that it does to you, emnmnemenmnem. Or why it has to mean the same thing every time you do it in order to mean anything any time you do it. You're sort of skipping over the logic behind how that works. The classic cop-out "sex is inherently an emotional connection" won't work here, either, since you're claiming that fast-food commercials of all things are undoing what you would be alleging to be a fundamental property.

    Like most alarmists, I look at where we are now and what our standards are. Then I pick and choose my selected evidence to try and paint a trend for the future based on nothing really factual.

    The result is: Sex has meaning now to average people. Sex will have less meaning in the future if we don't value it now.

    This is destroying America!

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  • zeenyzeeny Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    emnmnme wrote: »
    zeeny wrote:
    No. Those are ads. Ads tend not to push a sane person's perceptions of sex in "all sorts of directions".

    Ads manipulate emotions. If an ad doesn't fill me with desire for a double patty cheeseburger or a deep dish pizza, the ad has failed.

    Yes, but not often do they give you a raging boner.

    PS: Actually, you're wrong. TV Ads are mainly about new product announcements and brand recognition.
    The result is: Sex has meaning now to average people

    And he tried to tell you that that meaning varies. Did you read his post?

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  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    emnmnme wrote: »
    I'm also not sure why you think sex has to mean the same thing to everyone else that it does to you, emnmnemenmnem. Or why it has to mean the same thing every time you do it in order to mean anything any time you do it. You're sort of skipping over the logic behind how that works. The classic cop-out "sex is inherently an emotional connection" won't work here, either, since you're claiming that fast-food commercials of all things are undoing what you would be alleging to be a fundamental property.

    Like most alarmists, I look at where we are now and what our standards are. Then I pick and choose my selected evidence to try and paint a trend for the future based on nothing really factual.

    so thread over now right

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Like most alarmists, I...
    So you're an alarmist. Why should we care what you think?

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Medopine wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    I'm also not sure why you think sex has to mean the same thing to everyone else that it does to you, emnmnemenmnem. Or why it has to mean the same thing every time you do it in order to mean anything any time you do it. You're sort of skipping over the logic behind how that works. The classic cop-out "sex is inherently an emotional connection" won't work here, either, since you're claiming that fast-food commercials of all things are undoing what you would be alleging to be a fundamental property.

    Like most alarmists, I look at where we are now and what our standards are. Then I pick and choose my selected evidence to try and paint a trend for the future based on nothing really factual.

    so thread over now right

    Not really. No one's answered whether or not being surrounded by innuendo every day will warp a person or cheapen/degrade our views on sex.

    The answer is no, it won't. But why won't it?

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    I'm not sure how to respond to that. It looks almost like someone stepped up and said "who wants to fight?" and then someone said "okay I'm game" and then the first guy cuts off his own junk and chokes himself to death on it.

    Edit: Ah.
    emnmnme wrote: »
    Not really. No one's answered whether or not being surrounded by innuendo every day will warp a person or cheapen/degrade our views on sex.

    The answer is no, it won't. But why won't it?

    Why can a person only view sex in one single light?

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    So you made a thread on a topic that no one is really debating.

    Just how bored are you today?

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Quid wrote: »
    Just how bored are you today?

    I'm posting fast food commercials with sex appeal in them. How can you even ask that?

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  • ProPatriaMoriProPatriaMori Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Your thread cheapens D&D threads.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    "I'll take a number six with a Dr. Pepper, a side of onion rings, and two blowjobs. You want anything honey?"

    One can dream.

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    edited December 2008
    Commercials are stupid. Discuss!

    Edit: it's shit like this that's the reason I rarely watch TV and don't have cable.

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  • autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Well it's not like sex couldn't use some cheapening of meaning in the american culture
    There's entirely too much meaning inserted into it

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  • JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Does making threads against innuendo in commercials put sex on an unnecessary pedestal?

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Commercials are stupid. Discuss!

    Edit: it's shit like this that's the reason I rarely watch TV and don't have cable.

    The commercials I actually miss more than the programming. I stopped having cable when I realized the only thing I was actually getting for my money that didn't cause brain-atrophy was Cartoon Network, and I can get that for free on the tuberwebs. (they were right on top of streaming shit from their websites) A lot of commercials are really dumb and some are outright offensive (though the ones in this thread all fall under the former), but some are funnier than the programs they support. Actually the Dairy Queen one was kind of funny in a stupid way, even.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Does making threads against innuendo in commercials put sex on an unnecessary pedestal?

    yes.

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  • OmeksOmeks Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I've seen that Arby's ad several times now (mostly late at night, coincidentally).

    I hate it. Mostly because I never realized before it how much the Arby's hat looks like a dong. Now there's a neon penis sticking into the sky whenever I go eat lunch.

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  • DeShadowCDeShadowC Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Does anyone else see the Arby's one and think, "He's probably attracted to some teen who works there and wants to role play being with her instead of his wife." Then again I think oddly so probably not.

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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    DeShadowC wrote: »
    Does anyone else see the Arby's one and think, "He's probably attracted to some teen who works there and wants to role play being with her instead of his wife." Then again I think oddly so probably not.

    o_O

    D:

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited December 2008
    Now now. We still have so very far to go when combining fast food and sex.
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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Commercials are stupid. Discuss!

    Edit: it's shit like this that's the reason I rarely watch TV and don't have cable.

    The commercials I actually miss more than the programming. I stopped having cable when I realized the only thing I was actually getting for my money that didn't cause brain-atrophy was Cartoon Network, and I can get that for free on the tuberwebs. (they were right on top of streaming shit from their websites) A lot of commercials are really dumb and some are outright offensive (though the ones in this thread all fall under the former), but some are funnier than the programs they support. Actually the Dairy Queen one was kind of funny in a stupid way, even.

    They don't update Brave and the Bold online.

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  • ThorionThorion __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Podly wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure that there are less brothels now than there ever have been

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You realize that's incredibly annoying right?

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Guess I'm the only one in the thread who laughed his ass off at the Arby's ad.

    My wife did too.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Guess I'm the only one in the thread who laughed his ass off at the Arby's ad.

    My wife did too.

    I hate you. You are everything wrong with our society.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    shryke wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Guess I'm the only one in the thread who laughed his ass off at the Arby's ad.

    My wife did too.

    I hate you. You are everything wrong with our society.

    Why? Because our sense of humor is different than yours? We like "potty humor?"

    Who gives a shit? To coin a phrase, it's not for you.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Guess I'm the only one in the thread who laughed his ass off at the Arby's ad.

    My wife did too.

    I hate you. You are everything wrong with our society.

    Why? Because our sense of humor is different than yours? We like "potty humor?"

    Who gives a shit? To coin a phrase, it's not for you.

    The phrase has already been coined.

    Also, your sense of humor is different in the way that "wrong" is different from "not wrong".

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2008
    Your thread cheapens D&D threads.

    There needs to be some decent discussion of something at least sort of related to the OP or this things going to get locked faster than... umm... a really fast lock on... an expensive bike... that needs locking. Or something.

    I'm still bloated with Christmas dinner, so shut up.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    shryke wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Guess I'm the only one in the thread who laughed his ass off at the Arby's ad.

    My wife did too.

    I hate you. You are everything wrong with our society.

    Why? Because our sense of humor is different than yours? We like "potty humor?"

    Who gives a shit? To coin a phrase, it's not for you.

    The phrase has already been coined.

    Also, your sense of humor is different in the way that "wrong" is different from "not wrong".

    Hence where the :rolleyes: needs to come back. :|

    Really, our sense(s?) of humor is not wrong, it's just different than yours. Sorry I laugh at fart gags and "your mom" jokes. Sorry vague sexual innuendo is funny to us. I didn't mean to be the cause of the moral decline of America.


    As for the ads cheapening sex, I don't see how. I agree with another poster, that sex could use to be cheapened a bit in this country. It's not like my wife and I don't think sex is special, but people are way too uptight about it. If anything, I think the commercials do nothing about sex itself, but the reactions from people make discussion of sex more difficult.

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  • ProPatriaMoriProPatriaMori Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I wonder if continental Europeans are as sex mad as the British claim.

    I do actually have some ad for Cif (apparently a furniture wipe) that says it's for all the shiny things in your life and shows a latex-suited woman who looks vaguely embarassed at admitting she shines herself with furniture wipes.

    In fact, I'm going to go look at that picture again.

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