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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Comahawk wrote: »
    Evander wrote: »
    Naziism is fighting words. Any kind of institutional racism or other discrimination is fighting words.

    You can't silence an idea by making it illegal. Making it illegal just makes matyrs who shout it louder.



    You fight bad ideas with education.

    And bullets.

    Right. You save the bullets for the bad people. Hopefully the education portion makes the bullets unnecessary.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Bullets are good.

    Bullets killing wrong people bad.

    ie, civilians!

    Bullets killing anyone is bad.

    Bullets killing wrong people is worse.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Meissnerd wrote: »
    I agree with Evander. If you make ideas illegal it implies that people are stupid and are vulnerable to whatever idea comes to the surface. It turns the government into a babysitter of the people instead of a tool of the people. You don't get the trust of the people if you don't trust them to make the right decision.

    Case in point: The Bush Administration.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Bullets are good.

    Bullets killing wrong people bad.

    ie, civilians!

    Bullets killing anyone is bad.

    Bullets killing wrong people is worse.

    I don't understand this logic.

    Do you think the JPFO could explain it better?

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Bullets are good.

    Bullets killing wrong people bad.

    ie, civilians!

    Bullets killing anyone is bad.

    Bullets killing wrong people is worse.

    I don't understand this logic.

    Do you think the JPFO could explain it better?

    JPFO?



    Anyway, my point is that ANY death is bad, it is just that some time it is a nessecary evil.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Naziism is fighting words. Any kind of institutional racism or other discrimination is fighting words.

    You can't silence an idea by making it illegal. Making it illegal just makes matyrs who shout it louder.

    You fight bad ideas with education.

    There is no real distinction between idea and action in the political world. You're not making martyrs if all you're doing is not allowing them to use those ideas in a political context.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    We've had separatists in Canada for years now, and they still hold a large amount of seats. We don't outlaw separatists because as of right now Quebecers are Canadian citizens, and that would mean infringing on their right to dissent. As long as they obey our laws in their dissent there is no problem.

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  • Dead LegendDead Legend Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    jews for the preservation of firearms.

    they're a pretty good group.

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Naziism is fighting words. Any kind of institutional racism or other discrimination is fighting words.

    You can't silence an idea by making it illegal. Making it illegal just makes matyrs who shout it louder.

    You fight bad ideas with education.

    There is no real distinction between idea and action in the political world. You're not making martyrs if all you're doing is not allowing them to use those ideas in a political context.

    To use your example, Naziism is much more than kill the jews. It's an inherently political idea and you can't cut it apart.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Evander wrote: »
    Naziism is fighting words. Any kind of institutional racism or other discrimination is fighting words.

    You can't silence an idea by making it illegal. Making it illegal just makes matyrs who shout it louder.

    You fight bad ideas with education.

    There is no real distinction between idea and action in the political world. You're not making martyrs if all you're doing is not allowing them to use those ideas in a political context.

    I'm not a fan of politics, in general.

    On a pragmatic level, I would ban any party that supports incitement of violence towards the nation's own people. I think we can all agree there, no?

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