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Steve Jobs Almost Burned My House Down

MossMoss Registered User regular
edited November 2006 in Help / Advice Forum
On Friday, the power cord to my 15" Powerbook G4 caught fire. It was sparking and smoking and flaming. Luckily I managed to pull the cord out of the wall and stamp it out before the fire spread to anything else.

Today I went in to the apple store to request a replacement, but they insisted that since the product was a couple of months over warranty, that I had to spend £55 ($100) on a new cable. I brought up the health and safety issues of selling exploding peripherals at which point they became quite rude and basically told me to get lost.

I plan to phone customer services tomorrow and complain, but before I do I'd like to get a better understanding of where I stand on this. Don't get me wrong, if the cord had simply stopped working I would understand their position, but the fact that it posed immediate danger to me and the people I live with suggests that they ought to at least replace the goddamn thing.

Are they obliged to replace it, or do I have to pay the money? Has anyone dealt with apple over something like this before? What's the best way to go about it?

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'm pretty sure they dont have to replace it... but I'm also pretty sure you can start a lawsuit over endangering your life and pocessions... but that'd require you to prove that it was their product that did this and that, for instance, you didn't have it near a radiator that could have started it... You could also sue them the damages to your carpet/whatever it went off on, but if they can prove that they did "All that was possible" to prevent it, then you dont get shit and get stuck with legal fees.

    Note: Non-lawyer's comments.

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    If it's past warranty then the fire could easily have been the result of damage caused by general wear and tear rather than faulty manufacturing. Dig around the apple website forums to see if it's a common problem or not though. I got an apple monitor that was a year past warranty repaired for free due to it succumbing to a 'known manufacturing fault'.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Make sure it wasn't one of the ones that was recalled.

    This is a known defect in a lot of Powerbooks. When you talk to customer service, don't be rude, but if the lower-level people claim to be unable to help you, ask for a supervisor.

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  • MossMoss Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I hit up the website. 87 negative reviews on the product, numerous stating flames and sparking.

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  • powersspowerss Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Buddy, you are going to love me right now.

    1) Call Apple Corporate: 408-996-1010)
    2) Ask the operator for Gene (like denim) Teluse, VP of Customer Care. She is Apple's highest ranking customer service agent, and she reports directly to Steve Jobs.
    3) Leave a nice message, include any Apple Case/Repair numbers you might have, or your machine's serial number, and a callback number.
    4) Wait ~24 business hours for one of Ms. Teluse's minions to call.
    5) Calmly explain your story, and what you want Apple to do.

    Tipster Thirdgen adds that in general, Apple will not replace a machine unless it has been unsuccessfully fixed 3 or more times for the same issue, or several major repairs (i.e. a logic board, a screen, a top case as separate repairs).

    powerss on
  • Food?Food? Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    powerss wrote:
    Buddy, you are going to love me right now.

    1) Call Apple Corporate: 408-996-1010)
    2) Ask the operator for Gene (like denim) Teluse, VP of Customer Care. She is Apple's highest ranking customer service agent, and she reports directly to Steve Jobs.
    3) Leave a nice message, include any Apple Case/Repair numbers you might have, or your machine's serial number, and a callback number.
    4) Wait ~24 business hours for one of Ms. Teluse's minions to call.
    5) Calmly explain your story, and what you want Apple to do.

    Tipster Thirdgen adds that in general, Apple will not replace a machine unless it has been unsuccessfully fixed 3 or more times for the same issue, or several major repairs (i.e. a logic board, a screen, a top case as separate repairs).

    DO NOT abuse that. It (supposedly) actually does get you to talk to all the right people, but if people start abusing it and everyone starts doing that then they'll change the number. I'm surprised they haven't already, in fact.

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  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Also you may want to report it to Underwriters Laboratories, they're the guys who put the little silver stamp of approval on all electrical products sold in the US and Canada. If something they've said is safe ain't as safe as they thought, they want to know about it.

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