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Green Lantern

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  • OverlardOverlard Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Overlard wrote:
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Wait, Ion is good now? When did that happen?
    Bad Karma wrote:
    bobgorila wrote:
    I heard Ion was the most boring book ever. Issue one sure as hell was.
    It got much better.

    Issue six was pretty much the end of the "who am I what does it all mean what is going on here" motif that plagues all new titles with new / revamped heroes. With issue seven and beyond, Kyle has excepted / learned who he is now and is moving on..doing the Ion thing.

    He made a giant knight on horseback construct!

    Sometimes you need to give it an issue or two to get to the good stuff.
    Sadly with my comic budget being so small (I've got to pay for those video gaes & hookers somehow), I can only give a book a couple of issues to get good before drop it & try something new. Maybe I'll grab Ion in trade form. Kyle is my favourite GL, so I guess I owe it to the guy.

    Hey hey..this is a family forum. Keep your video gaes out of it.
    Don't oppress me.

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  • Green_Extreme_LanternGreen_Extreme_Lantern Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Yeah that new thing with Hal not wearing the ring when he flies is half-way mentally retarted.

    Im still waiting on Green Lantern #14, fucking bitch where I live, ussually stuff doesn't get down here until Thursday or Friday(which doesn't bother me much) but now it didn't come in Friday and yesterday(monday) was suposed to be a holiday(well stores were open) but the truck drivers are dicks and didn't deliver nothing. And they don't ship shit during weekends, so thats why it takes til monday sometimes.

    Well going to go down today...If it still isn't there I will be pissed.

    Also lets see other than 52 and GL I was getting the new Superman and Batman... so aside from 52 all these books should have been out like last fucking month.

    Fucking hate DC and their lateness. Johns doesn't seem to give a shit about getting GL on a monthly track but a lot of DC books are like this anyway. Anyway fuck Geoff Johns. But another forum another time.

    Sorry for the little rant.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Yeah that new thing with Hal not wearing the ring when he flies is half-way mentally retarted.

    Bitter much? It's not exactly a new thing. How the hell would you get a thrill out of test flying experimental jets and such while you have one of the most powerful safety nets attached to you? It's his way of showing himself that he still has a pair.
    Fucking hate DC and their lateness. Johns doesn't seem to give a shit about getting GL on a monthly track but a lot of DC books are like this anyway. Anyway fuck Geoff Johns. But another forum another time.

    Well, Johns only has like 5 books going on, so yeah, he shouldn't be late at all. Ever.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Yeah that new thing with Hal not wearing the ring when he flies is half-way mentally retarted.

    Bitter much? It's not exactly a new thing. How the hell would you get a thrill out of test flying experimental jets and such while you have one of the most powerful safety nets attached to you? It's his way of showing himself that he still has a pair.

    It is fucking retarded, wether it's a new thing or not. He's got the most powerful item on the planet at his personal command. It's his duty to protect not just Earth, but every fucking planet in the sector. And he's going to abandon that because he wants a thrill? That's bullshit. His friends got fucked up in this issue because of it, and how many other lives were lost because the only Green Lantern around was chilling in a PoW camp for months.

    Bad Karma wrote:
    Fucking hate DC and their lateness. Johns doesn't seem to give a shit about getting GL on a monthly track but a lot of DC books are like this anyway. Anyway fuck Geoff Johns. But another forum another time.

    Well, Johns only has like 5 books going on, so yeah, he shouldn't be late at all. Ever.

    If he can't deliver 5 books a month on time, he has no business having that many assigned to him. His job is to deliver a title on a monthly basis, and writing too many books shouldn't be an excuse for not achieving that.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    It's kind of like being a cop and leaving your gun at home, because carrying a gun makes you a pussy.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    Didn't we already establish that Hal is fucking retarded?

    Yes?

    Why are we pointing out the reasons?

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Keith wrote:
    Didn't we already establish that Hal is fucking retarded?

    Yes?

    Why are we pointing out the reasons?

    Damn you and your logic Keith...

    This whole thread should just be a debate over who is better... Kyle or Guy. I'd throw in Kilowagg, but that wouldn't even be close to a fair fight.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • GrifterGrifter BermudaModerator mod
    edited November 2006
    I just ordered an Ion shirt. It's the bizniz. 8)

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hal Jordan was the only thing bad about New Frontier. I hate that idiot. I kept waiting for Flagg to punch the hell out him.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    If he can't deliver 5 books a month on time, he has no business having that many assigned to him. His job is to deliver a title on a monthly basis, and writing too many books shouldn't be an excuse for not achieving that.

    What about all the other artists and writers that have a hard time getting a single book on time? We gonna fire them too? You wouldn't have many left. Sheesh. You complain too much. Easy...easy.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Who was the black GL that ate his ring? I swear to gods I have this comic. It's most likely been retconned by now, but it's hilarious.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    If he can't deliver 5 books a month on time, he has no business having that many assigned to him. His job is to deliver a title on a monthly basis, and writing too many books shouldn't be an excuse for not achieving that.

    What about all the other artists and writers that have a hard time getting a single book on time? We gonna fire them too? Sheesh. You complain too much. Easy...easy.

    Hard to believe we made it to three pages already with that steller OP...

    Honestly though, complaining about books being delayed is like complaining about the weather... its inevitable, unchangable, and everyone wishes everyone else would just stop fucking bitching about it.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hal Jordan was the only thing bad about New Frontier. I hate that idiot. I kept waiting for Flagg to punch the hell out him.

    That was actually one of the few things I liked Hal in. Barry Allen totally stole the show though.

    Munch on
  • Green_Extreme_LanternGreen_Extreme_Lantern Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Its not Johns thats causing the book to be late, its the mother fucking artist and Johns has basicly said that he doesn't give a shit about the book being late, Im willing to bet that there are at least 10 Green Lantern issues allready written for the next year or so.

    But its just the fucking way comic artists are now a days. Ivan Reis is fairly good but man I gotta say things are being over-worked in his drawings. His Art used to piss me off, prior GL, well this is probably the inkers fault, but there were all these un-needed lines running through the black areas that were completly un-needed but since, he's gotten another inker and his art looks a lot smoother and cleaner then it has before.

    Man they are fucking comic artists, its their fucking job to draw up 22 page books month after month. If they can't handle that then they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.

    Thats the bottom line, its not just GL either, its a lot of DC books, marvel is a lot better organized(they did have a little slip up with Civil War but that is reasonably excuseable), The company probably doesn't give the artists enough time to get a head start either.

    My problem is that Geoff (or most other writers and non artists in the industry) don't give a shit.

    Its really fucking pathetic in my mind.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Try the power ring.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    Man they are fucking comic artists, its their fucking job to draw up 22 page books month after month. If they can't handle that then they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.

    I can see you're not an artist.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I swear to the gods I am not making that shit up.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Munch wrote:
    Hal Jordan was the only thing bad about New Frontier. I hate that idiot. I kept waiting for Flagg to punch the hell out him.

    That was actually one of the few things I liked Hal in. Barry Allen totally stole the show though.

    Captain Cold was hilarious, with all the ice he had. New Frontier is one of my favorite things ever.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    I swear to the gods I am not making that shit up.

    The only black GL I know of is John Stewart... and I haven't read enough or seen enough about him to comment. Although, this is about swallowing a ring... so I don't know if I would be commenting anyway.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Sentry wrote:
    Fencingsax wrote:
    I swear to the gods I am not making that shit up.

    The only black GL I know of is John Stewart... and I haven't read enough or seen enough about him to comment. Although, this is about swallowing a ring... so I don't know if I would be commenting anyway.

    IIRC he wore a big red coat. He didn't look like stewart, though.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Keith wrote:
    Man they are fucking comic artists, its their fucking job to draw up 22 page books month after month. If they can't handle that then they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.

    I can see you're not an artist.

    To be fair, I think the average professional artist should be able to do at least one page in a typical eight hour work day. Now guys like Hitch or J.H. Williams, who do above-average art, or people who work on small, indie books that they do while also working fulltime jobs are special cases, and it's reasonable when they may miss deadlines. But for people whose only job is to sit down and draw an average comic, I don't think a page a day is unreasonable. Especially when people like Mark Bagley and Scott McDaniel can sometimes have two books per month on the shelf.

    Munch on
  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Sentry wrote:
    Fencingsax wrote:
    I swear to the gods I am not making that shit up.

    The only black GL I know of is John Stewart... and I haven't read enough or seen enough about him to comment. Although, this is about swallowing a ring... so I don't know if I would be commenting anyway.

    IIRC he wore a big red coat. He didn't look like stewart, though.

    The only Green Lantern I remember wearing a big coat was Jack T Chance...but uh..he doesn't swallow.

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Fencingsax wrote:
    Sentry wrote:
    Fencingsax wrote:
    I swear to the gods I am not making that shit up.

    The only black GL I know of is John Stewart... and I haven't read enough or seen enough about him to comment. Although, this is about swallowing a ring... so I don't know if I would be commenting anyway.

    IIRC he wore a big red coat. He didn't look like stewart, though.

    The only Green Lantern I remember wearing a big coat was Jack T Chance...but uh..he doesn't swallow.

    I think the other GLs told him he needed to give back the ring. And instead, he simply popped it into his mouth. After that it gets hazy, but I recall him playing a piano in heaven or something. I wish I had a scanner and the comic, because I had no real interest in comics back then, and it confused me.

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  • HenslerHensler Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    If he can't deliver 5 books a month on time, he has no business having that many assigned to him. His job is to deliver a title on a monthly basis, and writing too many books shouldn't be an excuse for not achieving that.

    What about all the other artists and writers that have a hard time getting a single book on time? We gonna fire them too? You wouldn't have many left.

    Damn right, we should. A deadline is a deadline. I'm paying a subscription price to get a monthly book - and it's the creative team's job to finish that book each month so that I get it. If you don't do your job, you should lose it.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Hensler wrote:
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    If he can't deliver 5 books a month on time, he has no business having that many assigned to him. His job is to deliver a title on a monthly basis, and writing too many books shouldn't be an excuse for not achieving that.

    What about all the other artists and writers that have a hard time getting a single book on time? We gonna fire them too? You wouldn't have many left.

    Damn right, we should. A deadline is a deadline. I'm paying a subscription price to get a monthly book - and it's the creative team's job to finish that book each month so that I get it. If you don't do your job, you should lose it.

    The problem is, it's still art. If you wanted a novel, you'd read a book. And if you rush art... well, you get crap like Wolverine: Origins. At least, I hope that's rushed... because each issue looks worse then the one before.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Sentry wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Hensler wrote:
    If he can't deliver 5 books a month on time, he has no business having that many assigned to him. His job is to deliver a title on a monthly basis, and writing too many books shouldn't be an excuse for not achieving that.

    What about all the other artists and writers that have a hard time getting a single book on time? We gonna fire them too? You wouldn't have many left.

    Damn right, we should. A deadline is a deadline. I'm paying a subscription price to get a monthly book - and it's the creative team's job to finish that book each month so that I get it. If you don't do your job, you should lose it.

    The problem is, it's still art. If you wanted a novel, you'd read a book. And if you rush art... well, you get crap like Wolverine: Origins. At least, I hope that's rushed... because each issue looks worse then the one before.

    Not good enough Sentry..not good enough! :winky:

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'm sure there's no shortage of aspiring artists who would love to get in on doing comics.


    Do these artists get paid per book, or just a monthly salary?

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    I'm sure there's no shortage of aspiring artists who would love to get in on doing comics.


    Do these artists get paid per book, or just a monthly salary?

    Jim Lee gets paid $15 per line

    Why do you think he uses so much crosshatching?

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Any penciller working for DC/Marvel typically gets a page rate, usually anywhere from $150 to $450, depending on how in-demand they are. People working for companies like Image, where the creators own the rights to the book but Image just distributes it, typically get a cut of the book's total profit, which varies depending entirely on how well the book sells.

    So really, artists who don't get their work done don't really hurt anyone but themselves, except for the inkers/colorists/letterers who depend on them to get pages to them.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I do agree artists should get carte blanch to just turn in shit whenever they feel like it.

    But... have you ever been reading a book and then, like, halfway through it, the art takes a huge nosedive? That can really be jarring... and potentially ruin the book.

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
  • SnoogySnoogy Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Wasn't an alien chick who swallowed the ring to keep it from falling into the hands of the spider guild? I think it was right at the start of the GL corp (but i'm at work and can't check)

    Anyway, she ate it, and it kept her alive. Then Guy and Hal rescued her. Then Killowagg rescued them. If a dude in a read coat has done it too, I don't know. Maybe its a recuring thing?

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  • Green_Extreme_LanternGreen_Extreme_Lantern Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Keith wrote:
    Man they are fucking comic artists, its their fucking job to draw up 22 page books month after month. If they can't handle that then they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.

    I can see you're not an artist.

    Actually I draw pretty regularly, I still don't know if I want to pursue a career in it. Aww fuck Im still young so I got some time.

    I really wish I had a fucking scanner right now.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Keith wrote:
    Man they are fucking comic artists, its their fucking job to draw up 22 page books month after month. If they can't handle that then they shouldn't be doing what they are doing.

    I can see you're not an artist.

    Actually I draw pretty regularly, I still don't know if I want to pursue a career in it. Aww fuck Im still young so I got some time.

    I really wish I had a fucking scanner right now.

    There is a bit of difference between drawing every now and then for fun and being the arist churning out 20+ pages for a monthly comic.

    It would be great if every book met its deadline, but the unfortunate fact is that they get missed once in a while. As long as it isn't going on all the time, I don't get too worked up over it.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I would complain about the lateness of Green Lantern and Teen Titans but
    ,oh Ethan Van Scriver and Tony Daniels just make so pretty pictures that myy heart sings.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Snoogy wrote:
    Wasn't an alien chick who swallowed the ring to keep it from falling into the hands of the spider guild? I think it was right at the start of the GL corp (but i'm at work and can't check)

    Anyway, she ate it, and it kept her alive. Then Guy and Hal rescued her. Then Killowagg rescued them. If a dude in a read coat has done it too, I don't know. Maybe its a recuring thing?
    The GL (Kyle?) in the JLA Classified book recently swallowed his ring.

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  • Green_Extreme_LanternGreen_Extreme_Lantern Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I only just go GL #14, What the fuck they got rid of the nice cover and page material. Id say the allstar books, Confedential, Jla classified and Superman/batman get to keep their shinny covers, oh also Justice, but that has different pages.

    Why doesn't DC just make all their series with Shinny cover, it makes no fucking sense cause they charge the same.

    Looking at the art in those books(the books that took really fucking long to get where I live), I thought to myself, man there is no fucking way in hell that those pages could have taken more then a day each. The artists are fucking lazy pricks. I can understand with Brian Hitch, Ethan Van Schiver and John Cassiday is causing Astonishing X-men to be late because he is also doing Planetary. I can even get Frank Quitely, his panels are really well thought out. He does great body gestiers and really captures the characters emotion. Jim Lee is swamped right now. So I get that, but man most right now just seem to be total lazy dicks. Its recent too.

    No fucking way do those pages take up that much time.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    You're a Newsarama regular aren't ya?

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited November 2006
    Superman/Batman only had a "shinny" cover for the annual. Otherwise it's just like every other book.

    All Star has "shinny" covers because they're a) special, and b) never out on time.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Superman Confidential doesn't have a "shinny" cover after the first one

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Justice is all shin' like because Alex Ross is a man god who I would gladly make someone felate in order to get free original artwork.

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Bad Karma wrote:
    Justice is all shin' like because Alex Ross is a man god who I would gladly make someone felate in order to get free original artwork.

    You'd just better hope those pics he did of Captain Marvel aren't a self portrait... a guy could wrench his jaw...

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    When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
    'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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