Except the Naruu turn into evil soul munching monsters when their batteries run low. That's why they train all those draenei and others to be paladins....gotta keep some rechargeable batteries on hand for when theirs run low.
That is not why they train paladins. :P
One of WoW's themes is that everything and anyone can be corrupted at any time, and often unwillingly, unfairly and in spite of what they themselves do. Naaru are unusual in that they are (mostly) portrayed pre-corrupted, unlike most of the powerful NPCs who we see only in a fallen and corrupted state.
I dislike the Naaru just because its when they addes Space pallies. My dislike for the Dranei is more them ret conning a huge piece of interesting lore to fit them in. I prefered the idea that even the greatest of beings could fall, thus even a titan was susceptable to the evils of the Legion.
I still would of prefered that the Dranei instead of being prettified and becoming the good Eradar would of stayed as the broken rements from Draneor where the orcs had hunted and almost erradicated them. And then the Alliance still there from the first expedition helping save them along with the Naaru. That way didn't have to retconn so much. But Alliance can't have an ugly race can they? Oh no, got to keep the 13 years coming for the Night Elf booty.
I still see Thrall and Magni Bronzebeard as two very powerful people have not been corrupted. Along with Ysera, Alexstra(sp?) and Nozudomu as well. Malyagos has been mad for a long time though if I remember right, since he saw about 90% of his flight get vaporized by Deathwing during the first legion invasion so him being a bad guy doesn't bug me. Killing him though and him not being put into a prision of some sort does seeing how is an aspect, the very essence of magic in Azeroth and with out him there should be no magic. Kind of like Deathwing is supposedly being "taken care" by the red flight.
If I recall Mazzyx, Krasus becomes the new Aspect of Magic when Malygos dies, or rather takes up the burden.
Except that krasus is a red dragon, and magic falls under dominion of the blue dragonflight. That and we don't know if maly is dead. We don't loot his body or anything.
Pretty sure when the Aspect of Life says somethings dead, it's dead. I think with Krasus it's more him keeping watch until a proper blue dragon has grown strong enough. Almost all of them are likely killed/fucking batshit loco, though there are still eggs I imagine.
I haven't killed Maly yet so I have just watched the how to tank video. It doesn't the give the story very well. Sorry about the spelling of Nozdormu, I just spell it how my mind reads it since I am at work and unable to look at wowwiki and such.
If the black flight is any proof, the aspect of the flight since it is the father/mother of pretty much 90% of the flight or in someway connected to the eggs means what hatches from them will be as mad/loco as the Aspect. I mean have we found a single non-genocidal black dragon in the game yet?
Aspects are just guardians, they don't control shit. Nozdormu knows the exact day he'll die but that doesn't mean time will suddenly stop when he does.
Aspects are just guardians, they don't control shit. Nozdormu knows the exact day he'll die but that doesn't mean time will suddenly stop when he does.
But the are tied to what they are. The titans made them as replacements for the Old Gods. A way to let Azeroth have controled flows of magic, time, life, earth and the emerald dream or second realm. Each is part of Azeroth as much as the dirt and water, or at least that was how they use to be described. Its one of the reasons the flights didn't just out right destroy the black flight and kill Deathwing. No one knew what would happen to very deeps if he was killed.
But looks that might have been quietly retconned since it seems we kill Maly and Azeroth is no worse for wear for it. Of course he might not be dead and the Alexstra just tells you since mortals are no longer needed to control him. But the retcon seems easier and if anything they like that simple easy route.
I haven't killed Maly yet so I have just watched the how to tank video. It doesn't the give the story very well. Sorry about the spelling of Nozdormu, I just spell it how my mind reads it since I am at work and unable to look at wowwiki and such.
Oh sorry, wasn't pointing out spelling there. That's just something I tend to fix automatically. I was more pointing out that Nozdormu is most likely going to turn out to be the leader of the infinite flight.
That's not a spoiler either, it's just conjecture.
No worries SPI. I still think that its going to be Deathwing, that bastard has his claws in everything and this just screams something he or his flight would come up with.
Nef wasn't an aspect though, just the oldest of the black flight in Azeroth. In fact, no one knows where Deathwing is since he fled to Draneor with the Orcs to escape a very very angry red flight. It is known that the Netherwing flight are from his eggs in Draenor and it is also known the Blacks are creating or working with the Twilight flight who they are though is unknown. The fact that Deathwing has for all intesive purposes disappeared means he can be leading 1 of a 100 different bad guy factions and we wouldn't know it.
We also know he has connections to the old gods as well. In fact he was the first to fall to their whisperings. They drove him to make the dragon soul/demon soul and become what we know as Deathwing now. Incuding covering himself with armor nailed to his own skin. So who knows the black flight might actually be involved with that instance as well.
The Twilight dragons are a creation of Deathwing, continuing where his son left off with his experiments on creating Chromatic Dragons. You face three Twilight drakes in OS, and all those eggs... are definitely not black dragons. Twilight dragons are a mix of Black and Netherwing, a black dragonflight member arrives at the Fel Orc outpost in Shadowmoon to discuss taking Netherwing Eggs for their own uses.
You know I really wish I got my epic flying before Wrath, I missed all these little moments making me having to guess when the information is already out there.
No worries SPI. I still think that its going to be Deathwing, that bastard has his claws in everything and this just screams something he or his flight would come up with.
Nef wasn't an aspect though, just the oldest of the black flight in Azeroth. In fact, no one knows where Deathwing is since he fled to Draneor with the Orcs to escape a very very angry red flight. It is known that the Netherwing flight are from his eggs in Draenor and it is also known the Blacks are creating or working with the Twilight flight who they are though is unknown. The fact that Deathwing has for all intesive purposes disappeared means he can be leading 1 of a 100 different bad guy factions and we wouldn't know it.
We also know he has connections to the old gods as well. In fact he was the first to fall to their whisperings. They drove him to make the dragon soul/demon soul and become what we know as Deathwing now. Incuding covering himself with armor nailed to his own skin. So who knows the black flight might actually be involved with that instance as well.
Deathwing is currently in Grim Batol as was revealed in the Night of the dragon book.
No worries SPI. I still think that its going to be Deathwing, that bastard has his claws in everything and this just screams something he or his flight would come up with.
Nef wasn't an aspect though, just the oldest of the black flight in Azeroth. In fact, no one knows where Deathwing is since he fled to Draneor with the Orcs to escape a very very angry red flight. It is known that the Netherwing flight are from his eggs in Draenor and it is also known the Blacks are creating or working with the Twilight flight who they are though is unknown. The fact that Deathwing has for all intesive purposes disappeared means he can be leading 1 of a 100 different bad guy factions and we wouldn't know it.
We also know he has connections to the old gods as well. In fact he was the first to fall to their whisperings. They drove him to make the dragon soul/demon soul and become what we know as Deathwing now. Incuding covering himself with armor nailed to his own skin. So who knows the black flight might actually be involved with that instance as well.
Deathwing is currently in Grim Batol as was revealed in the Night of the dragon book.
Making him the only power player in Azeroth to realise you can keep the adventurers out by locking the door and keeping the key inside with you.
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No worries SPI. I still think that its going to be Deathwing, that bastard has his claws in everything and this just screams something he or his flight would come up with.
Nef wasn't an aspect though, just the oldest of the black flight in Azeroth. In fact, no one knows where Deathwing is since he fled to Draneor with the Orcs to escape a very very angry red flight. It is known that the Netherwing flight are from his eggs in Draenor and it is also known the Blacks are creating or working with the Twilight flight who they are though is unknown. The fact that Deathwing has for all intesive purposes disappeared means he can be leading 1 of a 100 different bad guy factions and we wouldn't know it.
We also know he has connections to the old gods as well. In fact he was the first to fall to their whisperings. They drove him to make the dragon soul/demon soul and become what we know as Deathwing now. Incuding covering himself with armor nailed to his own skin. So who knows the black flight might actually be involved with that instance as well.
Deathwing is currently in Grim Batol as was revealed in the Night of the dragon book.
Making him the only power player in Azeroth to realise you can keep the adventurers out by locking the door and keeping the key inside with you.
instead of splitting the key up and giving pieces to his lieutenants who are both weaker in power and less securely located.
No worries SPI. I still think that its going to be Deathwing, that bastard has his claws in everything and this just screams something he or his flight would come up with.
Nef wasn't an aspect though, just the oldest of the black flight in Azeroth. In fact, no one knows where Deathwing is since he fled to Draneor with the Orcs to escape a very very angry red flight. It is known that the Netherwing flight are from his eggs in Draenor and it is also known the Blacks are creating or working with the Twilight flight who they are though is unknown. The fact that Deathwing has for all intesive purposes disappeared means he can be leading 1 of a 100 different bad guy factions and we wouldn't know it.
We also know he has connections to the old gods as well. In fact he was the first to fall to their whisperings. They drove him to make the dragon soul/demon soul and become what we know as Deathwing now. Incuding covering himself with armor nailed to his own skin. So who knows the black flight might actually be involved with that instance as well.
Deathwing is currently in Grim Batol as was revealed in the Night of the dragon book.
Everyone knew he was in there since they saw the elite rape trains there.
Aspects are just guardians, they don't control shit. Nozdormu knows the exact day he'll die but that doesn't mean time will suddenly stop when he does.
But the are tied to what they are. The titans made them as replacements for the Old Gods. A way to let Azeroth have controled flows of magic, time, life, earth and the emerald dream or second realm. Each is part of Azeroth as much as the dirt and water, or at least that was how they use to be described. Its one of the reasons the flights didn't just out right destroy the black flight and kill Deathwing. No one knew what would happen to very deeps if he was killed.
But looks that might have been quietly retconned since it seems we kill Maly and Azeroth is no worse for wear for it. Of course he might not be dead and the Alexstra just tells you since mortals are no longer needed to control him. But the retcon seems easier and if anything they like that simple easy route.
The Aspects are there to protect their...er...aspect. I.e Neltharion was supposed to be protecting the Earth, stones, etc. and Alexstrasza protects Life.
Malygos just went crazy and sees mortals wielding magic as something that should not be, and is trying to "protect" magic by eradicating any mortal ties to magic, even if it means completely obliterating the planet and all living things. Being an Aspect is like being the King only with Godlike powers. When you die, someone takes your place to keep shit in line.
Old Gods are a completely other mess. The Titans would NEVER instate anyone to replace them.
I dislike the Naaru just because its when they addes Space pallies. My dislike for the Dranei is more them ret conning a huge piece of interesting lore to fit them in. I prefered the idea that even the greatest of beings could fall, thus even a titan was susceptable to the evils of the Legion.
I still would of prefered that the Dranei instead of being prettified and becoming the good Eradar would of stayed as the broken rements from Draneor where the orcs had hunted and almost erradicated them. And then the Alliance still there from the first expedition helping save them along with the Naaru. That way didn't have to retconn so much. But Alliance can't have an ugly race can they? Oh no, got to keep the 13 years coming for the Night Elf booty.
The old lore is STILL on the story part of the WoW site. It's really pathetic.
One thing I should comment on is that the Orcs are NOT the good guys. Not even close.
THRALL is a good guy. He's shown incredible patience towards the alliance, a willingness to look past the previous mistakes and deeds of his allies, and generally hasn't done anything bad in his entire history showing good character as far back as when he was a slave.
The rest of the orcs, on the other hand, are filled with those who still work for the legion, who think things were better when the Horde was killing the weak and pitiful, those who think Thrall is a weakling, and those who generally think the Alliance should burn in hell for daring to stand up and defeat the Horde in the second war rather than letting themselves be annihilated.
The horde really hasn't recovered all that well from being corrupted by the Legion.
THRALL is a good guy. He's shown incredible patience towards the alliance, a willingness to look past the previous mistakes and deeds of his allies, and generally hasn't done anything bad in his entire history showing good character as far back as when he was a slave.
I like Thrall, but dude really needs to get hisself some prescription lenses. He's been blind to the crazy of the Forsaken for pretty much the entirety of WoW.
He might not be evil personally, but his sorta doormat actions have led to some severe devastation.
THRALL is a good guy. He's shown incredible patience towards the alliance, a willingness to look past the previous mistakes and deeds of his allies, and generally hasn't done anything bad in his entire history showing good character as far back as when he was a slave.
I like Thrall, but dude really needs to get hisself some prescription lenses. He's been blind to the crazy of the Forsaken for pretty much the entirety of WoW.
He might not be evil personally, but his sorta doormat actions have led to some severe devastation.
It's a small subset of the Forsaken that are the evil ones; the rest are just assholes; and really, the average Orc or Human had a good chance of being as big of douchebags as most Forsaken.
It's a small subset of the Forsaken that are the evil ones; the rest are just assholes; and really, the average Orc or Human had a good chance of being as big of douchebags as most Forsaken.
You'll forgive me if I'm not convinced. Most of the Forsaken (including their illustrious queen) are rather enamored of a New Plague, and I don't really think it's going to distinguish between greenskins and pinkskins. Sure, she was all apologetic when it got out of her control, but there really hasn't been much to win me over to the belief that Forsaken by and large aren't intent on wiping out everything that breathes as well as the Scourge.
The humans who pretty much lead the Alliance declared war on the Horde, if Thrall got rid of the Forsaken or severed ties with them he would have weaken his own group, yes the Forsaken are not angels but then not all of them are entirely evil, bitter and angry perhaps but most of the dangerous ones that wanted to do the real damage were those that turned traitor and you helped to kill them. So why punish the rest of the Forsaken who had nothing to do with it. Keeping them he keeps an ally, powerful ones at that and there is strength in numbers.
Why give a damn about the butt hurt of a human king who basically called you trash and said he wanted to wipe you out due to his rage. Besides there are good and evil people in each of the factions and some of them are pretty high up in power so don’t be surprised one day if some one in the Alliance does a deed that’s just as bad as the traitors in the Forsaken had done. If WoW has taught us anything it’s the ones you know that you got to fear and likely will need to be put down like a dog in the end.
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The humans who pretty much lead the Alliance declared war on the Horde, if Thrall got rid of the Forsaken or severed ties with them he would have weaken his own group, yes the Forsaken are not angels but then not all of them are entirely evil, bitter and angry perhaps but most of the dangerous ones that wanted to do the real damage were those that turned traitor and you helped to kill them. So why punish the rest of the Forsaken who had nothing to do with it. Keeping them he keeps an ally, powerful ones at that and there is strength in numbers.
Why give a damn about the butt hurt of a human king who basically called you trash and said he wanted to wipe you out due to his rage. Besides there are good and evil people in each of the factions and some of them are pretty high up in power so don’t be surprised one day if some one in the Alliance does a deed that’s just as bad as the traitors in the Forsaken had done. If WoW has taught us anything it’s the ones you know that you got to fear and likely will need to be put down like a dog in the end.
Why should the horde ditch the forsaken?
1. They've developed a plague that will wipe out Ally and Enemy alike, sparing only the Forsaken. They developed it with the intent of using it on both the Alliance and the Horde. They are clearly planning to betray the Horde.
2. They are keeping a fucking demon around as an adviser. The Orcs just spent centuries being the slaves of the Legion. They still bear the taint of the legion. As much as the hardcore members may hate the Alliance....the Legion is higher on the shit list. The Forsaken are dumb enough to think they can keep them as pets.
3. The Forsaken are stirring up trouble all over the place. Look at their relationship with the Grimtotem tribe.
The humans who pretty much lead the Alliance declared war on the Horde, if Thrall got rid of the Forsaken or severed ties with them he would have weaken his own group, yes the Forsaken are not angels but then not all of them are entirely evil, bitter and angry perhaps but most of the dangerous ones that wanted to do the real damage were those that turned traitor and you helped to kill them. So why punish the rest of the Forsaken who had nothing to do with it. Keeping them he keeps an ally, powerful ones at that and there is strength in numbers.
Why give a damn about the butt hurt of a human king who basically called you trash and said he wanted to wipe you out due to his rage. Besides there are good and evil people in each of the factions and some of them are pretty high up in power so don’t be surprised one day if some one in the Alliance does a deed that’s just as bad as the traitors in the Forsaken had done. If WoW has taught us anything it’s the ones you know that you got to fear and likely will need to be put down like a dog in the end.
Why should the horde ditch the forsaken?
1. They've developed a plague that will wipe out Ally and Enemy alike, sparing only the Forsaken. They developed it with the intent of using it on both the Alliance and the Horde. They are clearly planning to betray the Horde.
2. They are keeping a fucking demon around as an adviser. The Orcs just spent centuries being the slaves of the Legion. They still bear the taint of the legion. As much as the hardcore members may hate the Alliance....the Legion is higher on the shit list. The Forsaken are dumb enough to think they can keep them as pets.
3. The Forsaken are stirring up trouble all over the place. Look at their relationship with the Grimtotem tribe.
Every single one of those concerns has been addressed and dealt with via the Wrathgate and following Undercity events.
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The humans who pretty much lead the Alliance declared war on the Horde, if Thrall got rid of the Forsaken or severed ties with them he would have weaken his own group, yes the Forsaken are not angels but then not all of them are entirely evil, bitter and angry perhaps but most of the dangerous ones that wanted to do the real damage were those that turned traitor and you helped to kill them. So why punish the rest of the Forsaken who had nothing to do with it. Keeping them he keeps an ally, powerful ones at that and there is strength in numbers.
Why give a damn about the butt hurt of a human king who basically called you trash and said he wanted to wipe you out due to his rage. Besides there are good and evil people in each of the factions and some of them are pretty high up in power so don’t be surprised one day if some one in the Alliance does a deed that’s just as bad as the traitors in the Forsaken had done. If WoW has taught us anything it’s the ones you know that you got to fear and likely will need to be put down like a dog in the end.
Why should the horde ditch the forsaken?
1. They've developed a plague that will wipe out Ally and Enemy alike, sparing only the Forsaken. They developed it with the intent of using it on both the Alliance and the Horde. They are clearly planning to betray the Horde.
2. They are keeping a fucking demon around as an adviser. The Orcs just spent centuries being the slaves of the Legion. They still bear the taint of the legion. As much as the hardcore members may hate the Alliance....the Legion is higher on the shit list. The Forsaken are dumb enough to think they can keep them as pets.
3. The Forsaken are stirring up trouble all over the place. Look at their relationship with the Grimtotem tribe.
Every single one of those concerns has been addressed and dealt with via the Wrathgate and following Undercity events.
Yes. The Forsaken said "Oops, my bad. We had some rebels. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge." And Thrall fell for it. It doesn't change the fundamental fact that all of this is instigated at the request of Sylvanas. She ordered the creation of the plague. Keeping a dreadlord as a pet? Her idea. Trouble all over the place? She sent out the people to do it.
If war breaks out between the Horde and the Alliance, it's ultimately her fault.
I can't wait to roll Horde one day and enjoy their lore... it just seems much more rich and fulfilling than the Alliance does... Server full of 70+ alliance, though... makes it hard to make another of the same classes and still hold that replay value.
The humans who pretty much lead the Alliance declared war on the Horde, if Thrall got rid of the Forsaken or severed ties with them he would have weaken his own group, yes the Forsaken are not angels but then not all of them are entirely evil, bitter and angry perhaps but most of the dangerous ones that wanted to do the real damage were those that turned traitor and you helped to kill them. So why punish the rest of the Forsaken who had nothing to do with it. Keeping them he keeps an ally, powerful ones at that and there is strength in numbers.
Why give a damn about the butt hurt of a human king who basically called you trash and said he wanted to wipe you out due to his rage. Besides there are good and evil people in each of the factions and some of them are pretty high up in power so don’t be surprised one day if some one in the Alliance does a deed that’s just as bad as the traitors in the Forsaken had done. If WoW has taught us anything it’s the ones you know that you got to fear and likely will need to be put down like a dog in the end.
Why should the horde ditch the forsaken?
1. They've developed a plague that will wipe out Ally and Enemy alike, sparing only the Forsaken. They developed it with the intent of using it on both the Alliance and the Horde. They are clearly planning to betray the Horde.
2. They are keeping a fucking demon around as an adviser. The Orcs just spent centuries being the slaves of the Legion. They still bear the taint of the legion. As much as the hardcore members may hate the Alliance....the Legion is higher on the shit list. The Forsaken are dumb enough to think they can keep them as pets.
3. The Forsaken are stirring up trouble all over the place. Look at their relationship with the Grimtotem tribe.
Every single one of those concerns has been addressed and dealt with via the Wrathgate and following Undercity events.
Yes. The Forsaken said "Oops, my bad. We had some rebels. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge." And Thrall fell for it. It doesn't change the fundamental fact that all of this is instigated at the request of Sylvanas. She ordered the creation of the plague. Keeping a dreadlord as a pet? Her idea. Trouble all over the place? She sent out the people to do it.
If war breaks out between the Horde and the Alliance, it's ultimately her fault.
*shrug* That's completely not the impression I got after doing both events. Putruss and Varimarthas' faction of Forsaken go rogue and get their asses completely kicked for it. Yeah, the whole scene kinda put a damper on the whole "good-or-at-least-neutral undead" image they were trying to make. But what's left in Undercity are all the undead who are just want to live their un-lives. I don't see Sylvanas sitting on her throne cackling away saying "Exactly as planned! over the whole mess.
Not to mention that for every undead that I've ran into that was interested in killing everything, I've ran into an equal number who were either serious about trying to find a cure to the plague, or who just wanted to be left the fuck alone.
All the factions have their dark corner of people who want to screw the world over and rule it themselves. What I took from the plot was that the Undead group came forward with their plan, and the rest of the Horde told them to get the fuck out of the Undercity.
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That is not why they train paladins. :P
One of WoW's themes is that everything and anyone can be corrupted at any time, and often unwillingly, unfairly and in spite of what they themselves do. Naaru are unusual in that they are (mostly) portrayed pre-corrupted, unlike most of the powerful NPCs who we see only in a fallen and corrupted state.
Legion. Naaru. Two sides of the same coin. I say kill them all and take their shinies.
I still would of prefered that the Dranei instead of being prettified and becoming the good Eradar would of stayed as the broken rements from Draneor where the orcs had hunted and almost erradicated them. And then the Alliance still there from the first expedition helping save them along with the Naaru. That way didn't have to retconn so much. But Alliance can't have an ugly race can they? Oh no, got to keep the 13 years coming for the Night Elf booty.
I still see Thrall and Magni Bronzebeard as two very powerful people have not been corrupted. Along with Ysera, Alexstra(sp?) and Nozudomu as well. Malyagos has been mad for a long time though if I remember right, since he saw about 90% of his flight get vaporized by Deathwing during the first legion invasion so him being a bad guy doesn't bug me. Killing him though and him not being put into a prision of some sort does seeing how is an aspect, the very essence of magic in Azeroth and with out him there should be no magic. Kind of like Deathwing is supposedly being "taken care" by the red flight.
Except that krasus is a red dragon, and magic falls under dominion of the blue dragonflight. That and we don't know if maly is dead. We don't loot his body or anything.
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If the black flight is any proof, the aspect of the flight since it is the father/mother of pretty much 90% of the flight or in someway connected to the eggs means what hatches from them will be as mad/loco as the Aspect. I mean have we found a single non-genocidal black dragon in the game yet?
But the are tied to what they are. The titans made them as replacements for the Old Gods. A way to let Azeroth have controled flows of magic, time, life, earth and the emerald dream or second realm. Each is part of Azeroth as much as the dirt and water, or at least that was how they use to be described. Its one of the reasons the flights didn't just out right destroy the black flight and kill Deathwing. No one knew what would happen to very deeps if he was killed.
But looks that might have been quietly retconned since it seems we kill Maly and Azeroth is no worse for wear for it. Of course he might not be dead and the Alexstra just tells you since mortals are no longer needed to control him. But the retcon seems easier and if anything they like that simple easy route.
That's not a spoiler either, it's just conjecture.
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so i killed him
ps it's going to be red/black haha eat shit
fuck you nef
Nef wasn't an aspect though, just the oldest of the black flight in Azeroth. In fact, no one knows where Deathwing is since he fled to Draneor with the Orcs to escape a very very angry red flight. It is known that the Netherwing flight are from his eggs in Draenor and it is also known the Blacks are creating or working with the Twilight flight who they are though is unknown. The fact that Deathwing has for all intesive purposes disappeared means he can be leading 1 of a 100 different bad guy factions and we wouldn't know it.
We also know he has connections to the old gods as well. In fact he was the first to fall to their whisperings. They drove him to make the dragon soul/demon soul and become what we know as Deathwing now. Incuding covering himself with armor nailed to his own skin. So who knows the black flight might actually be involved with that instance as well.
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Making him the only power player in Azeroth to realise you can keep the adventurers out by locking the door and keeping the key inside with you.
Everyone knew he was in there since they saw the elite rape trains there.
Malygos just went crazy and sees mortals wielding magic as something that should not be, and is trying to "protect" magic by eradicating any mortal ties to magic, even if it means completely obliterating the planet and all living things. Being an Aspect is like being the King only with Godlike powers. When you die, someone takes your place to keep shit in line.
Old Gods are a completely other mess. The Titans would NEVER instate anyone to replace them.
I say slightly crazy because he did manifest a blob of sunwell energy into his own RealDoll and then mourned her as he sacrificed her.
Still, probably better than what Maly's turned the rest of the blues into.
THRALL is a good guy. He's shown incredible patience towards the alliance, a willingness to look past the previous mistakes and deeds of his allies, and generally hasn't done anything bad in his entire history showing good character as far back as when he was a slave.
The rest of the orcs, on the other hand, are filled with those who still work for the legion, who think things were better when the Horde was killing the weak and pitiful, those who think Thrall is a weakling, and those who generally think the Alliance should burn in hell for daring to stand up and defeat the Horde in the second war rather than letting themselves be annihilated.
The horde really hasn't recovered all that well from being corrupted by the Legion.
I like Thrall, but dude really needs to get hisself some prescription lenses. He's been blind to the crazy of the Forsaken for pretty much the entirety of WoW.
He might not be evil personally, but his sorta doormat actions have led to some severe devastation.
It's a small subset of the Forsaken that are the evil ones; the rest are just assholes; and really, the average Orc or Human had a good chance of being as big of douchebags as most Forsaken.
You'll forgive me if I'm not convinced. Most of the Forsaken (including their illustrious queen) are rather enamored of a New Plague, and I don't really think it's going to distinguish between greenskins and pinkskins. Sure, she was all apologetic when it got out of her control, but there really hasn't been much to win me over to the belief that Forsaken by and large aren't intent on wiping out everything that breathes as well as the Scourge.
Dude shoulda turned the Undercity into a crater.
The humans who pretty much lead the Alliance declared war on the Horde, if Thrall got rid of the Forsaken or severed ties with them he would have weaken his own group, yes the Forsaken are not angels but then not all of them are entirely evil, bitter and angry perhaps but most of the dangerous ones that wanted to do the real damage were those that turned traitor and you helped to kill them. So why punish the rest of the Forsaken who had nothing to do with it. Keeping them he keeps an ally, powerful ones at that and there is strength in numbers.
Why give a damn about the butt hurt of a human king who basically called you trash and said he wanted to wipe you out due to his rage. Besides there are good and evil people in each of the factions and some of them are pretty high up in power so don’t be surprised one day if some one in the Alliance does a deed that’s just as bad as the traitors in the Forsaken had done. If WoW has taught us anything it’s the ones you know that you got to fear and likely will need to be put down like a dog in the end.
Why should the horde ditch the forsaken?
1. They've developed a plague that will wipe out Ally and Enemy alike, sparing only the Forsaken. They developed it with the intent of using it on both the Alliance and the Horde. They are clearly planning to betray the Horde.
2. They are keeping a fucking demon around as an adviser. The Orcs just spent centuries being the slaves of the Legion. They still bear the taint of the legion. As much as the hardcore members may hate the Alliance....the Legion is higher on the shit list. The Forsaken are dumb enough to think they can keep them as pets.
3. The Forsaken are stirring up trouble all over the place. Look at their relationship with the Grimtotem tribe.
Every single one of those concerns has been addressed and dealt with via the Wrathgate and following Undercity events.
Yes. The Forsaken said "Oops, my bad. We had some rebels. Wink, wink, nudge, nudge." And Thrall fell for it. It doesn't change the fundamental fact that all of this is instigated at the request of Sylvanas. She ordered the creation of the plague. Keeping a dreadlord as a pet? Her idea. Trouble all over the place? She sent out the people to do it.
If war breaks out between the Horde and the Alliance, it's ultimately her fault.
I'm late to this comment but are the options:
No penis and
No penis ?
Maybe No penis and Large woman penis?
*shrug* That's completely not the impression I got after doing both events. Putruss and Varimarthas' faction of Forsaken go rogue and get their asses completely kicked for it. Yeah, the whole scene kinda put a damper on the whole "good-or-at-least-neutral undead" image they were trying to make. But what's left in Undercity are all the undead who are just want to live their un-lives. I don't see Sylvanas sitting on her throne cackling away saying "Exactly as planned! over the whole mess.
Not to mention that for every undead that I've ran into that was interested in killing everything, I've ran into an equal number who were either serious about trying to find a cure to the plague, or who just wanted to be left the fuck alone.
All the factions have their dark corner of people who want to screw the world over and rule it themselves. What I took from the plot was that the Undead group came forward with their plan, and the rest of the Horde told them to get the fuck out of the Undercity.
No, she's too busy saying, "I will take this Mana Biscuit and EAT IT."