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Mixology, a thread about booze.

DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
For Christmas my older sister and her husband gave me some materials to learn how to mix drinks and be a good/classy host for guests, etc.

Now I drink very little(more on that later), so the main crux is what should I have stocked, and what should I know how to mix for impromtu hosting duties? I was also given a bottle of Beefeater Gin, a bottle of whiskey, a bottle of sweet vermouth, angostura bitters, as well as a lemon/lime squeezer, fancy looking mixing thing, a strainer, spoon and measuring glass. Also, I know some alcohols have a shelf life once the seal is cracked, but I don't know which those are.

As for me, I rarely drink and have not experimented much myself. I disdain beer (heresy, I know) and I didn't much like my first attempt at a Manhatten. I do like Midori Sours, however.

Thanks!

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  • skyybahamutskyybahamut Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
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    This ought to help.

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I forgot to mention they also gave me a very nice book with many, many recipes in it. So that part is taken care of, but I don't know what drinks to be able to make.

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  • TalTal Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Sounds like you just need to develop an acquired taste to hard liquor. I was the same way when I started drinking (just started enjoying beer within the last few months and I'm 26).

    For a progression example, I started out with captain and coke, then captain and water, captain rocks, gin and tonic, gin rocks, vodka rocks, crown and coke, cognac, manhattans, vespers...seriously though, I'm not an alcoholic :P

    If you can find it Pimm's and sprite is delicious. I was just introduced to this on New Year's and my fiancee and I both enjoyed it. I'm not sure where my buddy found it though.

    You may also like Amaretto with coke. Also tasty on vanilla ice cream. :)

    As for hosting, I'm not sure what your friends like, but I would take a guess that in general ladies would like something sweeter like the amaretto and coke while the gents might prefer vodka / gin and tonic.

    A gin, vodka, whisky, rum and some mixers and you should be set. Sweet / dry vermouth, Coke, orange, pineapple, cranberry juices, and tonic water should give you plenty of options I would think. Lemons / limes and plastic umbrellas if you want to go really crazy.

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Speaking of vodka and amaretto, any particular brands that are well reguarded without being overly expensive?

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  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It's taken me a long while to get used to different alchohols. I'm 26 and I've just now started liking wine(pretty much only White Zinfendel). I do like mixed drinks though. Southern Comfort and Dr Pepper <3

    Anyway...if you want to figure out what drinks you like you have a few options. The cheapest route may be to get the ingredients to make the Midori Sour, and then look up online or in a book what other drinks you can make that are similar.

    If you go out often with people who drink and they/you are okay with it, ask them if you can try a sip of whatever drink they have ordered. That's how I learned I liked a lot of things was by stealing whatever my husband ordered ;-)

    You could also ask a bartender to recommend things, if you tell them what you like they can usually think of something for you to try...sometimes it sucks, other times you'll be surprised.

    I hated the way a lot of drinks and wine tasted, and I still don't like beer, but I gradually got used to them and slowly grown to like things I would've hated before. I think tasting something you eventually get used to it?

    Oh, make sure if you're trying out different drinks that you're not eating something really sugary or sweet beforehand. It came make the drinks taste comparably bitter.

    As for being a good host...everyone likes different things, just ask them what they want perhaps?

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  • TalTal Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    DragonPup wrote: »
    Speaking of vodka and amaretto, any particular brands that are well reguarded without being overly expensive?

    I'm a fan of Stolichnaya vodka. Smirnoff is pretty good too, nice flavor infused vodkas. Grey Goose is over priced for its quality.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    That's probably going to depend more on your guests and/or your geographic location. The crowd I roll with don't order fancy drinks that have more than 2 ingredients other than margaritas (e.g. vodka tonic, gin and tonic, rum and coke, tequila shots, scotch/whiskey straight or over ice, whiskey/bourbon and coke). When visiting the grandparent-in-laws I might get served a manhattan (I don't think they're all that great, but it's a pretty traditional drink) or a rum punch (two rums, pineapple and orange juice, with a 151 floater if you please). A basic full bar would also have vodka, dark rum, light rum, soda, tonic, ice, simple syrup, citrus fruits, salt, sugar and some mixers (bloody mary mix, coke, sprite, juices).

    If you want to know how to mix a few generic drinks, be able to whip up a martini (vodka or gin, there are tons of variations, are cosmopolitans still popular?), a bloody mary (mainly this is picking a good bloody mary mix), a white russian, a mojito (needs mint), and a long-island iced tea (maybe, though I think it's kinda a waste of good liquors). Though where I live you could probably get by with just knowing how to pour a good margarita which necessitates tequila and orange liquer.

    So long as you can close the bottle again, the only liquors that go "bad" might be those that have a high sugar content (it gets crusty at the cap) and fortified wines.

    Your best value for vodka (IMO) is Monopolowa, very clean potato vodka and quite cheap. The only Amaretto I've had is Disaronno. Oh and get an Irish Cream (like Bailey's), cause it's just yum, straight up, on ice, or in your coffee.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Tal wrote: »
    DragonPup wrote: »
    Speaking of vodka and amaretto, any particular brands that are well reguarded without being overly expensive?

    I'm a fan of Stolichnaya vodka. Smirnoff is pretty good too, nice flavor infused vodkas. Grey Goose is over priced for its quality.

    This is absolutely true. Vanilla Skyy and root beer tastes like creme soda, too.

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  • skyybahamutskyybahamut Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    During this cold winter, peppermint schnapps and hot cocoa is great.

    Also, get some tequila. Ladies love it 'cause it mixes well with fruity drinks, same goes for rum.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Tal wrote: »
    DragonPup wrote: »
    Speaking of vodka and amaretto, any particular brands that are well reguarded without being overly expensive?

    I'm a fan of Stolichnaya vodka. Smirnoff is pretty good too, nice flavor infused vodkas. Grey Goose is over priced for its quality.

    This is absolutely true. Vanilla Skyy and root beer tastes like creme soda, too.

    I use Ketel One as my "good" vodka, because it's just about as good as Grey Goose, but less expensive.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Prince Igor has been my usual *cheaper* end vodka, I`d say it tastes slightly better than Smirnoff, but Stolnichaya (or whatever its called) has become my favorite.

    Personally I try to keep a stock of: vodka, light rum, dark rum, gin, and whiskey.

    none of these will go bad once cracked, but try to keep them in a cool dry place.

    before hosting any events I fill a freezer bag or two with icecubes so I`ll have plenty for blender drinks. I also prepare about 1.5 liters of simple syrup, which will be more than enough to sweeten all the drinks that will be had at an event of about 20 people or less.
    Obviously, make a trip to the grocery store and pick up some lemons, limes, and mint sprigs. I might pick up a coconut or pineapple if there`s a theme or anything, but mostly lemons limes and mint are good enough.

    If you don`t have some already, you should pick up some fancy swizzle sticks because they really help with the presentation of the drinks.

    one more thing you might want to pick up are some easy pour spouts. . . they make everything much more fun!

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Prince Igor has been my usual *cheaper* end vodka, I`d say it tastes slightly better than Smirnoff, but Stolnichaya (or whatever its called) has become my favorite.

    Personally I try to keep a stock of: vodka, light rum, dark rum, gin, and whiskey.

    none of these will go bad once cracked, but try to keep them in a cool dry place.

    before hosting any events I fill a freezer bag or two with icecubes so I`ll have plenty for blender drinks. I also prepare about 1.5 liters of simple syrup, which will be more than enough to sweeten all the drinks that will be had at an event of about 20 people or less.
    Obviously, make a trip to the grocery store and pick up some lemons, limes, and mint sprigs. I might pick up a coconut or pineapple if there`s a theme or anything, but mostly lemons limes and mint are good enough.

    If you don`t have some already, you should pick up some fancy swizzle sticks because they really help with the presentation of the drinks.

    one more thing you might want to pick up are some easy pour spouts. . . they make everything much more fun!

    Yes. Disposable liquor bottle pouring insert thingies are a must. Nobody likes to clean up the liquor that Bob spilled because he couldn't pour straight.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It's worth noting that while some liquors are over priced, there is a definite difference in quality between brands. People who don't drink much generally don't notice the difference since they can't taste anything past the alcohol, but for regular drinkers it's plain as day and can be unsettling to say the least if they've grown accustomed to top shelf stuff and you mix them a martini using happy vodka.

    Which doesn't necessarily mean you should stock your bar with nothing but top shelf. Smirnoff is perfectly fine as a mixer while Grey Goose is, if you've already payed that much for it, (though Stoli is strongly recommended by just about everyone) wasted on a coke and vodka. But I'd recommend keeping a couple top shelf bottles for drinks that rely more on the taste (or lack there of) of the liquor.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    what the hell is this with coke and vodka

    it is a wretched combo

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Doc wrote: »
    what the hell is this with coke and vodka

    it is a wretched combo
    I've had potent vanilla vodka/vanilla coke mixers where I had no clue there was even any alcohol in there. I rather like it. I also prefer it over rum and coke, though mainly because I'm not a big fan of rum's flavor.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Can we agree that citrus vodkas are terrible?

    If you aren't sure, go sip some Absolut Mandarin and come back.

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  • real_pochaccoreal_pochacco Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Can we agree that citrus vodkas are terrible?

    If you aren't sure, go sip some Absolut Mandarin and come back.

    I tried some last night Absolute Mandarin last night for the first time, yeah, mixed with cranberry juice. It wasn't terrible, but it's not really a flavor I would ask for ever.

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  • TasteicleTasteicle Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I recently discovered coke and whiskey, i was supirsed at how good it was.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    One thing I've learned from mixing drinks for guests is to err towards normal to light pours, and don't pour heavy unless someone asks for it or you know they want it that way. You can always float a bit of the primary liquor if someone thinks theirs is too weak, but an overstrong mixed drink is not enjoyable to many eventhough you might think you're being generous.

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  • SlickShughesSlickShughes Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Djeet wrote: »
    One thing I've learned from mixing drinks for guests is to err towards normal to light pours, and don't pour heavy unless someone asks for it or you know they want it that way. You can always float a bit of the primary liquor if someone thinks theirs is too weak, but an overstrong mixed drink is not enjoyable to many eventhough you might think you're being generous.

    Ran into this problem on New Years. Just split the overstrong drink into 2 cups, and add more mixer to thin it out.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    I went to a New Years party where they put some pretty airy girls in charge of buying booze.
    They came back with three bottles of blueberry vodka and a bottle of coconut rum.

    Buy unflavored alcohols as a good base, then if you want to get something flavor infused, do it as is required for the occasion. Not the other way around.

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  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Can we agree that citrus vodkas are terrible?

    If you aren't sure, go sip some Absolut Mandarin and come back.

    Haha...yeah. I had a conference badge for the Austin Film Festival this year, which let me into a few parties with free booze. Dos XX and Absolute Vodka were the sponsors, so that's all they had. Since it was free the bartenders were pouring the drinks STRONG, and I dare say not mixing well.

    The mouthful of Absolut pineapple(with a splash of juice) I got made the (relatively) less potent drink of Absolute mandarin and ginger ale taste almost good ;-)

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  • ZyreZyre Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I have 3 recommendations;

    1. Gin + Ginger Ale. It's a different take on a Gin + Tonic, instead of Tonic Water you use a ginger based soda. I prefer Bombay Sapphire Gin and Canada Dry Ginger Ale. I do about half a can of soda per shot worth of gin and you can't even taste the gin. If too strong (can taste gin) you can always add more ginger ale.

    2. Long Island Iced Tea. Although it recipie doesn't include any tea, the name comes from the taste. It's a little difficult to get it to taste right, restaurants just use a pre-mixed alcohol and just add coke so you might be better off using the pre-mixed bottles, but it takes 1 part vodka, 1 part tequlia, 1 part rum, 1 part gin, 1 part triple sec, 1 1/2 parts sweet & sour mixer, and 1 splash of Coke.

    3. Mojito. Contains flavored rum I believe, Bacardi Carta Blanca or something, 1oz of Lime, 2 teaspoons of sugar, mint, ice and soda water.

    Edit: The Mojito. For the smoothest mojitos, gently crush mint leaves and lightly squeeze lime in a cool tall glass. Pour sweet syrup on top to cover and fill glass with ice. Add Bacardi Rum, club soda, and stir your emerging mojito well. Garnish with a lime wedge, a few sprigs of mint.

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  • mooshoeporkmooshoepork Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Zyre wrote: »
    I have 3 recommendations;

    3. Mojito. Contains flavored rum I believe, Bacardi Carta Blanca or something, 1oz of Lime, 2 teaspoons of sugar, mint, ice and soda water.

    Just regular rum is fine. I sometimes use lime soda water instead of regular soda water too

    but the Mojito is awesome.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Most of what I was going to add has been covered; buy plain/straight rums/vodkas, etc., and add mixers. Good mixers are simple syrup, ginger ale, tonic water, club soda, plus cranberry or other fruit juices. Limes & lemons are a must if you're having a party.

    As mooshoepork said, mojitos are a great drink that goes well with the frat or fancy crowd.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I would have to google it, but work would filter me out at the moment. But somewhere online there was an application or website you could enter all the liquors you have on hand it would then return every recipe combination available for you to make based on the stock you entered. Wish I had more than that for you, but maybe later I'll be able to track it down or it may come up easily on google for someone here.

    Other than that I would suggest another gin. Just a personal preference, but I think Beefeater is garbage taste wise. I love gin and would have to say that you can never go wrong with Bombay Sapphire, Hendricks is not a traditional flavored gin but very interesting, Magellan for those bold saucy times.

    also experimentation can be fun in a good and bad way. recently during a party my wife wanted Kahlua, but didn't not know what to mix it with given what we had. So just joking I dared her to drink any concoction I could create with it without knowing the contents. I just grabbed a shot glass and mixed Kahlua and whiskey, called it a Hillbilly Breakfast and surprisingly she really liked it. I tried one and it really wasn't half bad. I'm sure this has already been done a million times by others and has an official name, but it can be fun to "invent" your own drinks. This can swing in the reverse and be the worst tasting thing ever, but it makes for a good laugh at least.

    Just be careful when using milks or cream as when mixed with certain things they instantly will curdle and gel up. Yes I know there are many drinks that actually call for this to happen, but keep a puke bucket near by as they often cause people to gag on how nasty it is.

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  • truck-a-saurastruck-a-sauras Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Tasteicle wrote: »
    I recently discovered coke and whiskey, i was supirsed at how good it was.

    I find that whiskey and ginger ale is even better. But I pretty much love whiskey and anything.

    and another poster said "Edit: The Mojito. For the smoothest mojitos, gently crush mint leaves and lightly squeeze lime in a cool tall glass. Pour sweet syrup on top to cover and fill glass with ice. Add Bacardi Rum, club soda, and stir your emerging mojito well. Garnish with a lime wedge, a few sprigs of mint."

    gently cannot be stressed enough. I've had friends try and make mojitos before and they pulverize the mint into little bits. You shouldn't be slurping up bits of mint with each sip. The mint leaves should pretty much still be intact after the "crushing". Just a gentle press and minor bruises and tears in the leaf releases the flavor. Also it is a much sexier looking drink with the full leaves floating in there, not to mention the leaves stay put and all you get is the drink, not a chunky mouthful of booze and mint.

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  • DragonPupDragonPup Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    As a belated updated, I tried my first Toasted Almond today and I liked it(I used the version that .75oz Kahlua and Amaretto, with 2ozcream). I think I will try the equal parts vodka, amaretto, cream and Kahlua next time.

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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Tal wrote: »
    DragonPup wrote: »
    Speaking of vodka and amaretto, any particular brands that are well reguarded without being overly expensive?

    I'm a fan of Stolichnaya vodka. Smirnoff is pretty good too, nice flavor infused vodkas. Grey Goose is over priced for its quality.

    Belvedere vodka for me. Also, Yukon Jack and Sprite was big in college. Never fell much into the flavored vodkas.

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