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So, I created an OKCupid account. I found someone on there, and we've been exchanging messages. Last night, we chatted via IM for the first time, and it went pretty well.
My question for the forum is this: when should I ask her out on a real date? I was thinking of doing it the next time we chat, but what do you all think?
Also, would it be too corny to bring her a rose or flowers for our first date?
EVE: Online - the most fun you will ever have not playing a game.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
It varies based on the vibe you get from the person. With some people I waited weeks, the guy I'm with now, we met two days after we started talking on-line. Go with your gut.
Immediately after you decide she is not total crazy-town. Extended chat/email before meeting leads to badness, according to people who get paid to study that sort of thing.
Immediately after you decide she is not total crazy-town. Extended chat/email before meeting leads to badness, according to people who get paid to study that sort of thing.
I agree with this.
You dont want to build up this quasi-relationship in the written form, then meet up and discover that theres zero attraction, and actually talking to each other is awkward and un-fun. Also you dont want to wait around biding your time while some other guy sends a message, then asks her out first. Actually theres so many reasons to ask her out fairly early on, and not many good reasons to wait.
Its just a meeting, you're not asking for her hand in marriage.
Personally, i wouldnt take flowers. Unless you're very clearly a romantic, and your messages & chats so far have clearly portrayed this, its going to seem way too forward imho.
My main concern with the flowers thing is that I want to make it clear that I am interested in a relationship and not just in being friends. Since that is being vetoed :P, any suggestions on a better way of doing that?
And thanks for the rapid advice so far.
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EVE: Online - the most fun you will ever have not playing a game.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
I've never used an online dating service but with you two meeting on okcupid isn't kind of implied that said relationship would be more then "just friends"?
"I think we should go on a date to the Chapters on Main Street. Thursday work for you?" or even just "I think we should go out on a date." and take it from there.
You can also be a huge dork and say "Just so we're on the same page, you know this is a date right?" although your results may vary.
I've never used an online dating service but with you two meeting on okcupid isn't kind of implied that said relationship would be more then "just friends"?
No, there's a "just friends" option. She has, under what she's looking for, "Activity partner OR Long-term relationship OR Just friends". She's read my profile which makes it clear I'm looking for a relationship and not friends, but I want to do something to prove that to her, so to speak.
delroland on
EVE: Online - the most fun you will ever have not playing a game.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
My main concern with the flowers thing is that I want to make it clear that I am interested in a relationship and not just in being friends. Since that is being vetoed :P, any suggestions on a better way of doing that?
Kiss her at the end of the date.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I've never used an online dating service but with you two meeting on okcupid isn't kind of implied that said relationship would be more then "just friends"?
If you ask them out quickly, yes this is usually pretty much assumed. Quite often it ends with something like "Hey, you seem pretty cool, but i'm not really feeling a spark" and you end up as friends (or not of course) but yeah you both know why you are there to start with.
Even still, its very important to continue to act quickly. If you feel attraction, make sure you do the simple things like making physical contact (hug/kiss on the cheek when you meet, a touch on the arm during conversation, stuff like that), dont sit miles apart if you can help it (like the opposite sides of a table), and keep eye contact. And if you have a good time, make it absolutely clear at the end of the date, tell her you had a great time, and you'd love to see her again soon. Then follow up and schedule something again soon.
I met my bf on OkC and the only reason we waited as long as we did (3 months) was because I was in another country. Then we got together three days after I got back in the country. I echo those saying that you should ask her on a date, literally using the word date. You can't be much clearer than that.
When I was dating (way back in '99), every girl that I spent a significant amount of time talking both online and on the phone turned out to be either boring, weird, or ugly (often two or three of those things!). While more people have photos nowadays, plenty of people still cherry-pick photos when posting personal ads.
My dating days ended because I dropped the online shy crap and, after getting a response from any female who a) had a picture and b) seemed interesting, I said "hey, OK, let's meet and get coffee tomorrow afternoon. We can chat."
Not only were they more attractive (the girls that are happy to meet you usually aren't hermits who sit home all day), but they were all more interesting to talk to because we didn't already know every stupid thing about each other. More importantly, it shortened the time from meeting to accept/reject down to about 2-3 days, instead of over a month. When I met my now-wife, I said at the end of the date "this is fun, are you busy this afternoon?" She was, so I followed it up with "OK, well how about this weekend? I'll call you."
And then I called her the next day and that was that.
So yes, do something with her already. If she's cool, you'll be happy you met so soon. If she sucks, you'll be happy you didn't waste your time.
Awesome dude! Well done, it feels so rare that people actually follow the advice in girl threads
Now we wait for the "OMG! She misssed her..." thread.
Back OT, very awesome, delroland. I went on a lot of dates through those sites, and while it's fun to chat, it's best to just ask someone out early, and get it over with.
I would try to downplay the whole, "we met on-line; how cool is that?!" and just go out on a date as if you first met IRL.
My main concern with the flowers thing is that I want to make it clear that I am interested in a relationship and not just in being friends. Since that is being vetoed :P, any suggestions on a better way of doing that?
And thanks for the rapid advice so far.
It's kind of a given what your intentions are, since you met on an dating site.
Also, if you haven't figured this out yet, you DON'T know if you're actually interested in a relationship yet. The first date is basically an audition for the both of you. You may very well realize at the end of the date that there is no chemistry, or she chews her food with her mouth open, or the pictures you've seen of her were all taken 5 years ago...who knows. Have fun, but don't make more of the date than it is--a getting to know you session.
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Ask her out whenever you want. Just don't wait too long.
And no flowers.
I agree with this.
You dont want to build up this quasi-relationship in the written form, then meet up and discover that theres zero attraction, and actually talking to each other is awkward and un-fun. Also you dont want to wait around biding your time while some other guy sends a message, then asks her out first. Actually theres so many reasons to ask her out fairly early on, and not many good reasons to wait.
Its just a meeting, you're not asking for her hand in marriage.
Personally, i wouldnt take flowers. Unless you're very clearly a romantic, and your messages & chats so far have clearly portrayed this, its going to seem way too forward imho.
And thanks for the rapid advice so far.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
"I think we should go on a date to the Chapters on Main Street. Thursday work for you?" or even just "I think we should go out on a date." and take it from there.
You can also be a huge dork and say "Just so we're on the same page, you know this is a date right?" although your results may vary.
No, there's a "just friends" option. She has, under what she's looking for, "Activity partner OR Long-term relationship OR Just friends". She's read my profile which makes it clear I'm looking for a relationship and not friends, but I want to do something to prove that to her, so to speak.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
Kiss her at the end of the date.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
If you ask them out quickly, yes this is usually pretty much assumed. Quite often it ends with something like "Hey, you seem pretty cool, but i'm not really feeling a spark" and you end up as friends (or not of course) but yeah you both know why you are there to start with.
Even still, its very important to continue to act quickly. If you feel attraction, make sure you do the simple things like making physical contact (hug/kiss on the cheek when you meet, a touch on the arm during conversation, stuff like that), dont sit miles apart if you can help it (like the opposite sides of a table), and keep eye contact. And if you have a good time, make it absolutely clear at the end of the date, tell her you had a great time, and you'd love to see her again soon. Then follow up and schedule something again soon.
My dating days ended because I dropped the online shy crap and, after getting a response from any female who a) had a picture and b) seemed interesting, I said "hey, OK, let's meet and get coffee tomorrow afternoon. We can chat."
Not only were they more attractive (the girls that are happy to meet you usually aren't hermits who sit home all day), but they were all more interesting to talk to because we didn't already know every stupid thing about each other. More importantly, it shortened the time from meeting to accept/reject down to about 2-3 days, instead of over a month. When I met my now-wife, I said at the end of the date "this is fun, are you busy this afternoon?" She was, so I followed it up with "OK, well how about this weekend? I'll call you."
And then I called her the next day and that was that.
So yes, do something with her already. If she's cool, you'll be happy you met so soon. If she sucks, you'll be happy you didn't waste your time.
Wish me luck, and thanks again for all the input.
"Go up, thou bald head." -2 Kings 2:23
Now we wait for the "OMG! She misssed her..." thread.
Back OT, very awesome, delroland. I went on a lot of dates through those sites, and while it's fun to chat, it's best to just ask someone out early, and get it over with.
I would try to downplay the whole, "we met on-line; how cool is that?!" and just go out on a date as if you first met IRL.
It's kind of a given what your intentions are, since you met on an dating site.
Also, if you haven't figured this out yet, you DON'T know if you're actually interested in a relationship yet. The first date is basically an audition for the both of you. You may very well realize at the end of the date that there is no chemistry, or she chews her food with her mouth open, or the pictures you've seen of her were all taken 5 years ago...who knows. Have fun, but don't make more of the date than it is--a getting to know you session.