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Isometric RPGs rock

FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Social Entropy++
So ever since my girlfriend went back to college I have had a lot more time to be lonely and play videogames, and have thusly been exploring through all the old isometric RPGs I missed out on

Right now I'm playing fallout, fallout 2, and baldur's gate II, this is my first time with the latter


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Fallout is a computer role-playing game produced by Tim Cain, developed by Black Isle Studios (though before the studio was named "Black Isle") and published by Interplay in 1997. The game has a post-apocalyptic setting in the late 22nd century, though its story and artwork are heavily influenced by the post-World War II nuclear paranoia of the 1950s.
The game is sometimes considered to be an unofficial sequel to Wasteland, but it could not use that title as Electronic Arts held the rights to it, and, except for minor references, the games are set in separate universes. It was also intended to use Steve Jackson Games's GURPS system, but that deal fell through due to the excessive amounts of violence and gore included in the game, forcing Black Isle to change the already implemented GURPS system to the internally developed SPECIAL system.
Critically acclaimed, the game inspired a number of sequels and spin-off games, known collectively as the Fallout series.
fallout rawks

Baldur's Gate II seems really cool, since I've never really dicked around with any of these old-school AD&D RPGs. I made a human fighter who has no skills for some reason but has some hella weapon proficiencies. It's more complicated then NWN and shit so thank god I am familiar with AD&D.

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Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, developed by BioWare and released September 26, 2000, is the second computer role-playing game in the Baldur's Gate series, which takes place just a few months after the events of Baldur's Gate. It is based on the 2nd edition Advanced Dungeons & Dragons role-playing system. The story is set in the Forgotten Realms, the most popular D&D story setting. It has sold over 2,000,000 units and is widely regarded as one of the best role-playing games of all time.[1]
An expansion pack for the game was released in 2001, entitled Baldur's Gate II: Throne of Bhaal.
this shit is pretty confusing thus far but i am totally digging it's weird RTS style hack n slashing. i am still stuck in a big gay castle thing that some jerk wizard trapped me in.

I am making this thread because I want people to talk to about these games

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fandyien I applaud you for attempting to play Baldur's Gate for the first time so long after its original release. It's one of my all time favorite games, but I know several people who have tried to do the same and for whatever reason "couldn't get into it."

    That said, a lot of the weirdness you are experiencing comes from the fact that the game is based on a rules set (D&D 2nd edition) that really just was executed horribly. If you have any general questions it'd be good to ask here, unless you have somehow found a copy with the manual, in which case you should probably at least glance through it, I know I wish I had.

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  • Meta T. DustMeta T. Dust Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Lets play some Baldur's Gate Multiplayer

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  • thorgotthorgot there is special providence in the fall of a sparrowRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    i have never enjoyed one of these games

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    have you played planescape: torment or arcanum? those are my favoritest

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Yeah I'mma be asking you guys hella questions

    Luckily I started playing D&D with second edition so it's not that confusing. and as for the having trouble getting into it, I'm actually having a really easy time because I am all "man that looks pretty" after playing fallout 2 for days

    Do formations and shit really matter? should my ranger guy be using a bow? should i stack one proficiency or go for axes/longswords/two handed swords like i was planning?

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    lostwords wrote: »
    have you played planescape: torment or arcanum? those are my favoritest

    nope, but planescape is next on my list since I have heard it is virtually a novel gameified and that sounds fantastic

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Planescape had the best story of that era of RPGs I feel, but I didn't really get into the combat or lack of character customization. Also, I bought arcanum and returned it in a day, It had a cool concept but I have literally never played a buggier game.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    playing these things a decade after release is great because they're all patched up

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    there's tons of patches out that fix a lot of bugs in arcanum, as well as fixing some game balance issues (tech kinda sucked compared to magic) because i don't think i've ever played in a more fun setting. victorian steampunk fantasy? cmon

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Planescape was an awesome game but I don't really consider it a D&D game only because of it's lack of customization which, in my opinion, is a staple of D&D.

    Also, the Planescape setting was rarely used in my house. I ran a few campaigns back in the day but that's it.

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Oh man, best thread.

    Planescape is the best game to play so long after release because of the patches. Widescreen/high res, added quests and storylines back in that were unfinished. Man. Now I want to play Planescape again. Really the best story of any game, ever.

    Also, no story whatsoever, but the Icewind Dale series is basically a D&D setting tactical combat game.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited January 2009
    in baldurs gate i usually end up going on a rampage and killing everyone


    im surprised i havent done this yet in fallout

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I tried BG2 when it came out a few times since and I can't make it more than about three hours in before losing all interest.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    I didn't mind the lack of customization in Planescape because the fantastic story it tells wouldn't have worked as well if you were allowed to tweak things much more.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    I didn't mind the lack of customization in Planescape because the fantastic story it tells wouldn't have worked as well if you were allowed to tweak things much more.

    I wouldn't change a thing about Planescape. I just don't put it in the same boat as the other D&D based games.

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  • futilityfutility Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    fuck isometric... it's all about 3/4 overhead!

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  • No Great NameNo Great Name FRAUD DETECTED Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Weaver wrote: »
    I tried BG2 when it came out a few times since and I can't make it more than about three hours in before losing all interest.
    Then somewhere along the way you failed as a human being.

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Actually, what's the state of patches on Arcanum? I wouldn't mind playing that again. Go through as evil instead of a goody two shoes this time.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Has anyone played the Witcher? You only have one character instead of a party, but its very much in the tradition of these games, isometric view, customization and all. I'm only a few hours in but I'm having a lot of fun with it.

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  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fandy, this is a good thread. Also, that Fallout thread we had last summer where you were playing it for the first time was fun as hell.

    I think I'm going to install all my old isometric RPGs on my laptop so I'll have something to do at the laundromat other than watch Audrey Hepburn movies. The only problem is getting a bunch of Windows 9x games to work on Vista. Hurgh.

    Edit: Dabble, Arcanum is pretty much fixed these days. Check out the downloads section at http://www.terra-arcanum.com and download the unofficial patch.

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  • ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    BioWare = Epic in my mind, if for no other reason than the two Baldurs' Gates (or is it Baldurs Gate's?). Its the only reason I gave Ice Windale, Jade Empire, and Mass Effect a try. Those game, subsequently, I liked. So I can't think of a single BioWare game that I haven't enjoyed thoroughly.

    And now they are making a Star Wars MMO. I am so fucked.

    Fandyien wrote: »
    Yeah I'mma be asking you guys hella questions

    Luckily I started playing D&D with second edition so it's not that confusing. and as for the having trouble getting into it, I'm actually having a really easy time because I am all "man that looks pretty" after playing fallout 2 for days

    Do formations and shit really matter? should my ranger guy be using a bow? should i stack one proficiency or go for axes/longswords/two handed swords like i was planning?

    Rangers should use bows. Stacking proficiency is useful, but going jack of all trades isn't that bad either.

    Formations are actually really important. Keeping squishies in the middle or in the back make a HUGE difference in alot of dungeon exploring and such.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fandy did you finish Babylon 5 yet because if not you need to put the games down son

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  • RabidDeathMooseRabidDeathMoose Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I love BG1, that's probably my favorite RPG on any list that doesn't include Morrowind.

    I started BG2 but for whatever reason (probably a series of formats and school) never got anywhere with it. That is on the top of my "list" for things I plan on doing.

    That and playing the heck out of Emperor Battle for Dune and Grim Fandango.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Weaver wrote: »
    Fandy did you finish Babylon 5 yet because if not you need to put the games down son

    still working on it, but i don't know where to find the last seasons
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Fandy, this is a good thread. Also, that Fallout thread we had last summer where you were playing it for the first time was fun as hell.

    Yeah, that's sorta what inspired me to make this thread. the first FALLOUT thread we had was so much fun and it taught me that games like this aren't so much boring as they are deep and then suddenly i realized I could enjoy non fps games!

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  • MarshmallowMarshmallow Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Screw your 30 degree angle, 26.565 degree for life.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    i find the 2d art in these isometric games to be very aesthetically pleasing!

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  • Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Baldur's Gate II is one the most beautiful games I have ever played, even now I can see new things in the backgrounds.

    Fandy I am jealous of you being able to experience this game for the first time.

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
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    Is he wearing one of those furry russian hats? Nice!

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    see?

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It is so fun to experience old pieces of media today

    All my friends are like hay dude u been playin call of dooty 4? and I'm all "sorry dudes stuck in 2001 over here"

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The only one I've played is Record of Lodoss War on Dreamcast.

    Unless grid-based strategy RPGs count.

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    The only one I've played is Record of Lodoss War on Dreamcast.

    Unless grid-based strategy RPGs count.

    get your japanese shit out of my thread

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  • RabidDeathMooseRabidDeathMoose Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Hey, Final Fantasy Tactics is the only FF game I've ever completed, it's worth a look and really fun.

    As for the rest... FAAART I say.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Food, have you never seen dreadlocks before?

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  • Captain CthulhuCaptain Cthulhu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Food wrote: »
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    Is he wearing one of those furry russian hats? Nice!

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    see?

    I don't know but that game rocks.

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Man, the VA in all of those games was just so damned good. Michael T Weiss as Nameless is one of my favorite main characters ever.

    Irenicus? Holy shit Irenicus is perfect.

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Druhim wrote: »
    Food, have you never seen dreadlocks before?

    Look above the logo. If that's hair then this guy is a conehead.

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  • DeaconBluesDeaconBlues __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    Icewind Dale 2 is totally underrated, once you download that mod that makes the first town undead... oh my god.

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    A good oldschool RPG series is the Avernum games. They're pretty text-heavy but I've always enjoyed 'em.

    There's also the Ultima series. I know I keep pimping these LPs but Nakar of SA did the fucking best LPs of Ultima 7 and Serpent Isle:

    http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/Ultima%20VII/
    http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/SerpentIsle/

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Oh my God avernum

    I played those on my tan macintosh years and years ago

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