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New patent from Miyamoto / Nintendo. Scene based gameplay. Very ambitious.
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Fresh from the patent office, Nintendo has got new patent today, with Miyamoto being the inventor.
If my patent-fu is good enough, the idea behind the patent is pretty simple. The game has group of videos pre-recorded with the engine, which are called digests. When player is stuck, he can watch these digest videos, and learn from them, basically turning them into hints. The gimmick is that the player can anytime stop digest video, and start playing directly. Patent also covers idea of splitting game into scenes. The player can watch summary of whole game, with its storyline and major events. The player can then jump to play the game anytime. Notice that if you jump to play from digest video, you can't save.
Pretty clever actually, and very ambitious. It makes possible for everyone to enjoy the game, without developer actually needing to compromise difficulty to achieve this.
Source: US Patent Office
If my patent-fu is good enough, the idea behind the patent is pretty simple. The game has group of videos pre-recorded with the engine, which are called digests. When player is stuck, he can watch these digest videos, and learn from them, basically turning them into hints. The gimmick is that the player can anytime stop digest video, and start playing directly. Patent also covers idea of splitting game into scenes. The player can watch summary of whole game, with its storyline and major events. The player can then jump to play the game anytime. Notice that if you jump to play from digest video, you can't save.
Pretty clever actually, and very ambitious. It makes possible for everyone to enjoy the game, without developer actually needing to compromise difficulty to achieve this.
Source: US Patent Office
Hypnotically inclined.
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Yeah, and it is quite obvious from patent pictures for which game this is meant for.
Looks like we're getting a new Ninja Turtles game!
Now that that's out of my system, it looks...different. I really have no idea how it works, but then again, I'm not Miyamoto.
Edit: Link to patent?
Haven't a hundred other games already had scenes that kind of highlight your objectives to you? So the only difference here is that you can replay those and jump in?
Or Miyamoto just made a dick move and patented something that a lot of games already use.
Tail end of the OP.
Also:
It's Zelda with a hint system, at least in part.
Edit: I got lucky by just glancing at this paragraph at random, the patent is a big ole wall of text.
Still, it's neat to see some of what Nintendo's planning on doing with the next Zelda franchise.
After beating the game, it would be very neat to essentially have a DVD-menu where I can play any part of the game I want to. This patent fits Zelda pretty damn well.
Although I swear there's a game announced or released where you can jump in during a replay or somesuch and play from there.
Hardly. Microsoft has patented custom soundtracks and Namco has patented loading screen minigames, and this isn't any sillier than those.
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Exactly what it says. The player can watch summarized video of whole game, and jump into scene that is currently playing. But he can't save his progress.
Doesn't the new Alone in the Dark do that?
Yup, but not to this extent.
It's not an issue of how silly it is. It's an issue of interpretation of In Re Bilski that came down just a few months ago.
Oh, that is interesting. It would be great if software patent side would make more sense.
For some strange reason?
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Basically players can do their own digest videos too, and upload them to the server from which other players can access them. The second part simply means that game can lock digest videos until certain amount of time has passed.
I've heard of the Namco thing, but WHAT with Microsoft?
So would that mean the hypothetical Excite Truck 2 couldn't have your songs on an SD card played into the game like Excite Truck has?
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Microsoft patentend custom soundtracks when Xbox was released. It covers only Microsoft's way of handling custom soundtracks, and doesn't prevent others from having alternative ways of playing custom music behind the game.
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That is to say, I don't think I'd want to play a game like this. Especially a Zelda game.
Hmm... I think you may be a little bit off on this one.
I can't believe you'd say that! What'd I ever do to you?? All I ever wanted was to wildly speculate based on a tiny little morsel of almost-information like this was Slashdot and you gotta come all up in here with your reasonable post...In a Zelda thread, no less! You are a horrible, horrible person and you should be ashamed of yourself!
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But you're probably right. :P
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Essentially this. It's a pretty great idea come to think of it. It'd be nice to show off certain levels and/or cutscenes later on in the game to friends.
Imagine if Metroid Prime 2 had this feature:
1) Play the game as is - no hints, no skips, nothing nada - you have to go through all of the annoying search side quests and the annoying bosses.
2) a) Check hints for the annoying side quests
b) If you still cannot find it, load up a movie replaying where to find the item
c) Still couldn't find it? Load up a movie replaying how to find and get the item
3) Skip parts of the game in case you're stuck:
a) Stuck at a very tough boss: skip fighting the boss to go to the next part
b) Got so tired and bored of search side quests: skip those parts and go straight to the main quest
It's more of a way of dumbing down games yet make it the experience enjoyable for both core and casual gamers, yet without forcing core gamers to accept dumbed down games.
In a way, this is a good method in making hard games and/or hard puzzles.
Core and OCD gamers will still attempt to finish all the hard parts while more casual gamers will skip the portions they couldn't solve/finish and attempt to finish them later.
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(A save state of the game playing for you beating the game)
but being able to pause and take control at anytime. And if you get stuck, you can go back to "digest mode" where the game will gather your game progress data and continue playing your game for you, thus getting past that puzzle you've been stuck at for hours for you. You can also start watching the playthrough at any level ("scene") you want, also being able to take control and play yourself and let the computer play for you whenever you want.
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Something I'd like to see for ninja gaiden :[
Dear heavens no, Miyamoto, this is not the aspect of the next Zelda that should be focussed on. Or at least a big time-consuming part of the development process.
Second impression - This is a very cool and interesting way for people to essentially skip or at least get help on sections of a game they either find too difficult or not stimulating.
Third impression - Um yeah I can't stress the part about not making this the main hook of the next Zelda.
Sorry for being a knee-jerk doubter here, but I see people who don't care about almost anything I associate with gaming or gaming innovation playing Twinkle Twinkle little star on squealing cats and I... Get wary.
Give me time.
I'm sure it'll be helpful, but I don't see how it'll enhance gameplay. Unless they were peeking at Braid or something.
But the twist here is that you will only be able to skip scenes after a certain period of time (it might just be completing the game, for example).