I remember during the Anna Nicole Smith coverage a lot of people were complaining how much the media was focusing on it, but the response was "lol free market, they're just giving the people what they want," then a survey revealed most people were sick of it. The media gives what keeps it alive, but they aren't exactly maximizing their viewership.
Thing is she didn't occupy most of the media. She appeared in several-second blurbs on most news-programs on a daily basis. But so did a couple dozen other things.
that's bullshit. She was all over the news, for hours at a time. The amount of time they spent debating who the father of her kid was... it was staggering.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
The only appropriate response to 0:42 is a loop of '-pals around with terrorists.'
Amazing. That is exactly what was going through my head when watching that segment.
The only thing that destroyed Palin was her own ignorance and hubris. Fucking moron is still looking to blame anybody but herself for her failure of a campaign. At least McCain had the dignity to fade into the background.
Two Jewish guys are sitting on a park bench reading newspapers. The first guy looks up and notices his buddy is reading a Neo-Nazi newspaper. He asks him "How can you read that trash?". The man replies "When I read the regular news paper all I hear is about how the economy is crashing, people are being beaten and murdered, and that the outlook is bleak. I find it depressing. When I read this news paper I hear about how our people control the banks, run the media, and are taking over the world."
Is the media biased? Yes. People do not want to hear viewpoints that conflict with their own, so various networks tend to downplay or up play various stories depending on who their audience is. The problem comes in with a large amount of people being unwilling, or unable to recognize their personal bias and believe the news only reports "facts".
Good find. Sadly bias is overlooked is still alive and well at MSNBC. Their motto should be: We're not biased if we're doing it!
you're kind of stupid, aren't you?
Palin complaining about what got reported in the media would be the hight of ironic, if she wasn't completely serious.
edit: spoilered image so I don't have to look at those dead, dead eyes.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
9 fucking days away from a new president, and suddenly: PALIN! Who, who was the douche nozzle who decided that it would be a good idea to have this bitch on the ticket.
The media is the media. Ratings are everything, if it bleeds it leads and such.
As a consequence of that, I prefer to get my news from smelling my finger after sticking it in my ass and deciphering the smells. It's fair, balanced, and has more journalistic integrity than just about any media outlet on the planet.
Good find. Sadly bias is overlooked is still alive and well at MSNBC. Their motto should be: We're not biased if we're doing it!
Damn. This video just reminded me of why I quit watching regular TV news (other than occasionally shows like 60 minutes, which have the decency to talk about something at a moderate length). I got so sick of hearing the talking heads yelling over each other. I can't imagine a less productive way to report on events than this. Also, the big-ass image of sarah palin on the video is terrifying, much like something out of Lovecraft.
What's the name of the disorder where you refuse to admit that anything is your fault? Is it narcissistic or sociopathic personality disorder? Because it's looking like Palin has it. I knew she had a massive ego during the election when she started trying to subsume the McCain campaign and use it as a platform for furthering her own ambitions. It really blew my mind at the time - did she not realise that she's a nobody from nowhere McCain was using strictly as a way to rally the base?
I remember in the Newsweek article they talked about how, after refusing to prep for the Couric interview, she actually reduced one of her aides to tears for failing to prep her for it. Now she's blaming her part in sinking the Republican ticket on other people (librul media). It takes a lot to be one of the most selfish, egocentric politicians in the US, but it looks like she's well on her way.
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I think if you're at the point of blaming the makers of a documentary that's dedicated to making you look good for pulling quotes out of context to make you sound stupid then it's time to realize that it's just your quotes themselves making you sound stupid.
I remember during the Anna Nicole Smith coverage a lot of people were complaining how much the media was focusing on it, but the response was "lol free market, they're just giving the people what they want," then a survey revealed most people were sick of it. The media gives what keeps it alive, but they aren't exactly maximizing their viewership.
Thing is she didn't occupy most of the media. She appeared in several-second blurbs on most news-programs on a daily basis. But so did a couple dozen other things.
Coverage of Anna Nicole Smith accounts for 7% of all coverage on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC for the period Dec. 31, '06 - Mar. 31, '07, and she wasn't even dead in January.
I think if you're at the point of blaming the makers of a documentary that's dedicated to making you look good for pulling quotes out of context to make you sound stupid then it's time to realize that it's just your quotes themselves making you sound stupid.
I remember during the Anna Nicole Smith coverage a lot of people were complaining how much the media was focusing on it, but the response was "lol free market, they're just giving the people what they want," then a survey revealed most people were sick of it. The media gives what keeps it alive, but they aren't exactly maximizing their viewership.
Thing is she didn't occupy most of the media. She appeared in several-second blurbs on most news-programs on a daily basis. But so did a couple dozen other things.
The week she died, she got 9% of the "Newshole" [whatever that means] coverage, and she died with only two days left in the week.
The news hole is the amount of content a news provider needs to create in every publishing cycle.
For example, a news broadcast on radio or TV has a certain amount of air time it needs to fill. Likewise, a newspaper, magazine, newsletter, or website, has a news hole of a certain number of printed pages, dependent in part on how many advertisements are sold to advertisers.
So you've established that for two days she got a lot of coverage for dying. At that point in time the only news-related program I was watching was the Daily Show, so I dodged all of it neatly. What happened the next week? And what did ratings look like for the coverage of dead creepy lady? Were people "sick of it" or actually sick of it?
I think if you're at the point of blaming the makers of a documentary that's dedicated to making you look good for pulling quotes out of context to make you sound stupid then it's time to realize that it's just your quotes themselves making you sound stupid.
I remember during the Anna Nicole Smith coverage a lot of people were complaining how much the media was focusing on it, but the response was "lol free market, they're just giving the people what they want," then a survey revealed most people were sick of it. The media gives what keeps it alive, but they aren't exactly maximizing their viewership.
Thing is she didn't occupy most of the media. She appeared in several-second blurbs on most news-programs on a daily basis. But so did a couple dozen other things.
The week she died, she got 9% of the "Newshole" [whatever that means] coverage, and she died with only two days left in the week.
The news hole is the amount of content a news provider needs to create in every publishing cycle.
For example, a news broadcast on radio or TV has a certain amount of air time it needs to fill. Likewise, a newspaper, magazine, newsletter, or website, has a news hole of a certain number of printed pages, dependent in part on how many advertisements are sold to advertisers.
So you've established that for two days she got a lot of coverage for dying. At that point in time the only news-related program I was watching was the Daily Show, so I dodged all of it neatly. What happened the next week? And what did ratings look like for the coverage of dead creepy lady? Were people "sick of it" or actually sick of it?
I think if you're at the point of blaming the makers of a documentary that's dedicated to making you look good for pulling quotes out of context to make you sound stupid then it's time to realize that it's just your quotes themselves making you sound stupid.
Indeed; I was well aware of this line of thinking even before posting that video. I'm not American.
"I remember back during WWI, WWII, everybody'd be at a movie, they'd see the troops come on in a news reel, they were all cheering.
Nowadays, everyone has an opinion."
Thank you, Joe.
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I like how some folks are spotting that the first report filed from a person hired to be a reporter in a war zone is that reporters shouldn't be filing reports about war zones.
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He's gonna run for senate in Ohio. Which leads me to the conclusion that Ohio always gets exactly what it deserves.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
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I don't want to hear the redneck talk, did he actually claim to remember either of the world wars?
Transcript (taken from DailyKos, for what it's worth):
"I'll be honest with you. I don't think journalists should be anywhere allowed war. I mean, you guys report where our troops are at. You report what's happening day to day. You make a big deal out of it. I-I think it's asinine. You know, I liked back in World War I and World War II when you'd go to the theater and you'd see your troops on, you know, the screen and everyone would be real excited and happy for'em. Now everyone's got an opinion and wants to downer--and down soldiers. You know, American soldiers or Israeli soldiers. I think media should be abolished from, uh, you know, reporting. You know, war is hell. And if you're gonna sit there and say, 'Well look at this atrocity,' well you don't know the whole story behind it half the time, so I think the media should have no business in it."
Looking at the wikipedia entry on newsreels, I doubt that anybody saw WWI newsreels even on the rare occasion that there was good news.
That's probably just picking nits. I think we can establish that he doesn't know what he's talking about for other reasons, so his embellishment is hardly the worst thing about his statement.
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Thing is she didn't occupy most of the media. She appeared in several-second blurbs on most news-programs on a daily basis. But so did a couple dozen other things.
The Daily Show writers have it eeeeaaasy....
Amazing. That is exactly what was going through my head when watching that segment.
The only thing that destroyed Palin was her own ignorance and hubris. Fucking moron is still looking to blame anybody but herself for her failure of a campaign. At least McCain had the dignity to fade into the background.
Two Jewish guys are sitting on a park bench reading newspapers. The first guy looks up and notices his buddy is reading a Neo-Nazi newspaper. He asks him "How can you read that trash?". The man replies "When I read the regular news paper all I hear is about how the economy is crashing, people are being beaten and murdered, and that the outlook is bleak. I find it depressing. When I read this news paper I hear about how our people control the banks, run the media, and are taking over the world."
Is the media biased? Yes. People do not want to hear viewpoints that conflict with their own, so various networks tend to downplay or up play various stories depending on who their audience is. The problem comes in with a large amount of people being unwilling, or unable to recognize their personal bias and believe the news only reports "facts".
Good find. Sadly bias is overlooked is still alive and well at MSNBC. Their motto should be: We're not biased if we're doing it!
Seriously?
you're kind of stupid, aren't you?
Palin complaining about what got reported in the media would be the hight of ironic, if she wasn't completely serious.
edit: spoilered image so I don't have to look at those dead, dead eyes.
Michelle Bachmann?
Seriously? You ignore everything else said in this thread (that you created) in favor of this?
The media is the media. Ratings are everything, if it bleeds it leads and such.
As a consequence of that, I prefer to get my news from smelling my finger after sticking it in my ass and deciphering the smells. It's fair, balanced, and has more journalistic integrity than just about any media outlet on the planet.
What's the name of the disorder where you refuse to admit that anything is your fault? Is it narcissistic or sociopathic personality disorder? Because it's looking like Palin has it. I knew she had a massive ego during the election when she started trying to subsume the McCain campaign and use it as a platform for furthering her own ambitions. It really blew my mind at the time - did she not realise that she's a nobody from nowhere McCain was using strictly as a way to rally the base?
I remember in the Newsweek article they talked about how, after refusing to prep for the Couric interview, she actually reduced one of her aides to tears for failing to prep her for it. Now she's blaming her part in sinking the Republican ticket on other people (librul media). It takes a lot to be one of the most selfish, egocentric politicians in the US, but it looks like she's well on her way.
Does media have a bias? Yes.
Is 'the media' any more biased against Palin than anyone else? If you think that, it's time to pull your head out of your ass.
But how will you be able to tell which from which!?
I think if you're at the point of blaming the makers of a documentary that's dedicated to making you look good for pulling quotes out of context to make you sound stupid then it's time to realize that it's just your quotes themselves making you sound stupid.
http://www.journalism.org/node/4096
The week she died, she got 9% of the "Newshole" [whatever that means] coverage, and she died with only two days left in the week.
Edit: Even better. http://www.journalism.org/node/5719
Coverage of Anna Nicole Smith accounts for 7% of all coverage on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC for the period Dec. 31, '06 - Mar. 31, '07, and she wasn't even dead in January.
I'm curious to hear Emanon's opinion on anything, since he/she's decided to virtually ignore this thread.
So you've established that for two days she got a lot of coverage for dying. At that point in time the only news-related program I was watching was the Daily Show, so I dodged all of it neatly. What happened the next week? And what did ratings look like for the coverage of dead creepy lady? Were people "sick of it" or actually sick of it?
I included a larger timeline in my edit. For ratings, it appears the Situation Room did have a spike the day she died, but I'm having a bitch of a time finding what the ratings were in the ensuing period. http://pewresearch.org/pubs/419/anna-nicole-audience-praises-press-coverage
For the survey, we have this: http://people-press.org/report/305/too-much-anna-nicole-but-the-saga-attracts-an-audience
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDlst03I3lk
Nowadays, everyone has an opinion."
Thank you, Joe.
We Report, You Decide"
Fuck all that "informed public" shit. We should sit in theatres, watch propoganda and cheer when the government tells us to.
This guy's just the gift that keeps on giving, huh?
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
He didn't claim it as a personal memory, but it was still a "Back in the good ol' days..." statement.
Transcript (taken from DailyKos, for what it's worth):
I'm sure you've got a lot of ideological brethren who'd agree, Joey boy.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Looking at the wikipedia entry on newsreels, I doubt that anybody saw WWI newsreels even on the rare occasion that there was good news.
There were theaters for the express purpose of showing them.
That's probably just picking nits. I think we can establish that he doesn't know what he's talking about for other reasons, so his embellishment is hardly the worst thing about his statement.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
In Britain. The earliest mention of anything in America was the 1920's, and you have to give them time to catch on.