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Songsmith - I'M SINGING WITH MY LAPTOP

Lave IILave II Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Games and Technology
Submitted for your consideration

I can only imagine this thread consisting of empty posts as people struggle to think of anything to say. I can only hope that they made it intentional bad to make it 'viral' but I can't see how that helps them.

Also, is it just me or does there seem something so incredibly old fashioned and crazy to think that something like Songsmith might come in box. Like back in the old days of amiga games in massive card board boxes.

Stolen from here, reference fans

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  • JivesJives Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    that girl has the worst voice


    the actual worst

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  • chasehatesbearschasehatesbears Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Stopped at 0:35.

    I don't get it.

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  • TheGreat2ndTheGreat2nd Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    That...That's not real is it?
    Because that is HILARIOUS

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Microsoft huh? So it's pretty easy to use?

    Also, everyone in this video is highly punchable. I wonder if the license agreement means that users are also the owners of the song...like the promotional video heavilly implease.

    I'm sure I saw a video for this a while back under a different name, did Microsoft acquire something at an early stage, then develop it?

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  • Lave IILave II Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    That...That's not real is it?
    http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/songsmith/
    Yes. Unfortunately.

    I'M SINGING WITH MY LAPTOP

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'd buy a glow in the dark towel.

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  • Lave IILave II Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    LewieP wrote: »
    I'm sure I saw a video for this a while back under a different name, did Microsoft acquire something at an early stage, then develop it?

    Microsoft could have made this, but even they would have seen sense before they bought it.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You're kidding right. Idiots all over the world will pay good money for this kind of thing.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This is just terrible.

    And all the songs it makes sound pretty much the same.

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  • JutranjoJutranjo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Screw the Songsmith, I want some glow in the dark towels.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It's the same technology as in Karaoke Revolution or Rock Band, right? Only instead of grading how well you match the song it fits the song to your pitch.

    Basically it's a keyboard background fill only instead of pushing the keys yourself, it's done by a voice.

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  • Lave IILave II Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    LewieP wrote: »
    You're kidding right. Idiots all over the world will pay good money for this kind of thing.

    I'm so shaken from watching the video I can't tell anymore.

    My entire understanding of humanity has been shaken.

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  • TheGreat2ndTheGreat2nd Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Jutranjo wrote: »
    Screw the Songsmith, I want some glow in the dark towels.
    LewieP wrote:
    You're kidding right. Idiots all over the world will pay good money for this kind of thing.

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  • UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Actually he brings up some very good points regarding why one might desire a glow in the dark towel.

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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    He doesn't really though.

    Glow in the dark stuff needs light so that it can glow when its dark. If your towels are kept in a closet, and you go to get one at night, it ain't gonna glow. Unless you left a light on, in which case you could see it anyway.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    This was posted a few days ago on another forum I frequent. The general impression was:
    "I'd LOVE to hear results from actual users, rather than cast people whose voices have obviously been pitch-corrected to hell."

    "Does Microsoft really not get unintentional humor, because I can't imagine it's part of their ploy."

    The obvious: "Microsoft, huh? So it's pretty easy to use!"

    The pitch correction one was pretty funny, because matching chords to a badly off-key voice could yield results of the most hilarious kind.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Rami wrote: »
    He doesn't really though.

    Glow in the dark stuff needs light so that it can glow when its dark. If your towels are kept in a closet, and you go to get one at night, it ain't gonna glow. Unless you left a light on, in which case you could see it anyway.

    Imagine you have one of those closets with a pressure switch on the hinge, except the moron electrician wired it backwards. How would you find your towels then, motherfucker?! Huh?

    GLOW IN THE DARK.

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  • JivesJives Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    you all need to be getting closet widows..

    let in the light during the day to charge up your GLOW TOWELS

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I want to get this, and then sing dead quarter-tones into it.


    Let's see what it does then.

    Or go twelve-tone on its ass. Do metric modulation shit too.

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  • jackaljackal Fuck Yes. That is an orderly anal warehouse. Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    OK, I made it 36 seconds. Do I win? The computer science behind this is probably really advanced, which is pretty much the point of a research project anyway.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I like how the two meters you use to determine what kind of music it generates is either "Happy" or "Jazzy."

    Any song in history can be characterized by its exact degree of Happiness, Jazzieness, or mixture of both.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Man, I hate this song, it's too Jazzy.

    Got anything happy instead?

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You haters are crazy. This is the greatest thing.

    The greatest thing.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    "Everyone has a song inside."

    Even Deepcrow.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It'll be great for singing horrible songs about unspeakable acts with both the happy and jazzy sliders all the way up.

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  • MiserableMirthMiserableMirth Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If only I had a laptop. I can't be singing in my room by myself. If that video is any indication, I have to be in front of people oR in public SINGING INTO MY LAPTOP~

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  • KarfKarf The Past Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I am so downloading this. Curse Microsoft's slow research servers. I WANT TO SING TO MY LAPTOP, DAD

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I want to sing Radiohead into it.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Actually.. I'm interested now. There are endless hidden songs everywhere!!!! Terrible voice acting in that game? Plug that into the Songsmith and see what develops. Need to leave a message at work that you're going to take the day off sick? Songsmith can spice that up for ya. The possibilities. No one says you have to actually sing to generate the music. This could be amazing!

    I wonder how nicely it does match the voice though, because it's not like they altered the music in that ad to match the voice perfectly or anything.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    Actually.. I'm interested now. There are endless hidden songs everywhere!!!! Terrible voice acting in that game? Plug that into the Songsmith and see what develops. Need to leave a message at work that you're going to take the day off sick? Songsmith can spice that up for ya. The possibilities.

    I wonder how nicely it does match the voice though, because it's not like they altered the music in that ad to match the voice perfectly or anything.

    I can see it becoming quite a fad..

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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    I wonder how nicely it does match the voice though, because it's not like they altered the music in that ad to match the voice perfectly or anything.

    I'm still downloading the demo (stupid Microsoft servers), but my guess would be that it figures out what pitch you're trying to sing, creates an accompaniment for it, and then tweaks your recorded voice until its in tune.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
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  • DeathPrawnDeathPrawn Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    I wonder how nicely it does match the voice though, because it's not like they altered the music in that ad to match the voice perfectly or anything.

    I'm still downloading the demo (stupid Microsoft servers), but my guess would be that it figures out what pitch you're trying to sing, creates an accompaniment for it, and then tweaks your recorded voice until its in tune.

    It's actually a really clever concept. Pitch-matching a solo line isn't difficult (see: Karaoke Revolution/Rock Band/GH:WT), and if it does it then altering the pitch of a vocal line is easy (see: GarageBand). It should be very easy to look at all of the notes that make up a song and determine the key (plus a little extra work to figure out if it's the relative major or minor), and once you have a key it's easy to come up with a list of chord choices for any given note. The only hard part becomes finding the best-sounding progression of chords.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Figgy wrote: »
    I wonder how nicely it does match the voice though, because it's not like they altered the music in that ad to match the voice perfectly or anything.

    The general work behind it as far as I can tell really isn't that complicated, and even it wouldn't be that hard to, if someone is consistently off-key, fix the entire structure to be where they are.

    I mean, I've done this a few times, most of the time just when I'm making a joke with a quick+dirty song that I'm playing, and once for a performance because apparently giving your accompanist an incorrectly written vocal line with no chord structure passes as getting him the music now a days.

    But I mean, pitch recognition isn't that hard, and determining intonation problems isn't that hard, I think as long as someone can in general hold a pitch it won't really encounter any problems.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    so this is a you rage you lose thread right?

    I made it all the way and now I want my time back :_(

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    DeathPrawn wrote: »
    Figgy wrote: »
    I wonder how nicely it does match the voice though, because it's not like they altered the music in that ad to match the voice perfectly or anything.

    I'm still downloading the demo (stupid Microsoft servers), but my guess would be that it figures out what pitch you're trying to sing, creates an accompaniment for it, and then tweaks your recorded voice until its in tune.

    It's actually a really clever concept. Pitch-matching a solo line isn't difficult (see: Karaoke Revolution/Rock Band/GH:WT), and if it does it then altering the pitch of a vocal line is easy (see: GarageBand). It should be very easy to look at all of the notes that make up a song and determine the key (plus a little extra work to figure out if it's the relative major or minor), and once you have a key it's easy to come up with a list of chord choices for any given note. The only hard part becomes finding the best-sounding progression of chords.

    Oh hell I didn't even think about that, yeah instead of retuning the chords, they could just include some autotune


    Also, finding the best-sounding progression isn't what it's doing, it's going through tonal paradigms that fit with the notes.

    Notice that everything in that video is I-IV-V-I or I-ii-V-I or some really simple tonal paradigm. At one point there's an ascending 4th sequence even.

    It's not some complex thing that it's doing, it's finding the notes, and if it fits in the chord, then use that chord, with probably weights given to certain chords, based on where they're coming from. Chord structures in such a simple way are so structured.

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  • IcemopperIcemopper Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    As a musician, this program pisses me off...

    As a human, this program makes me laugh so hard. So hard.

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'm 10% into the download. I plan on trying it in a virtual machine before installing it for real. Just to hold of starting the trial for real until I'm sure what I want to do.

    Icemopper, it should make you laugh as a musician also.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I have it installed.

    What song should I make?

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  • ZackSchillingZackSchilling Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I want a jazzy tune about murdering Tom Selleck for his mustache.

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