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BrotherVoodoo
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Here's the LA Weekly Article
Anyone on the boards a classic competitive gamer
IE
Ms. Pac-Man, Dig Dug
and I'm talking like Killscreen competitive?
Anyone on the boards a classic competitive gamer
IE
Ms. Pac-Man, Dig Dug
and I'm talking like Killscreen competitive?
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I loved King of Kong, Billy Mitchell is so funny in that movie. Especially the way they captured him. His perfect Mane of Mulletted hair, and patriotic ties...not to mention the wing sauce.
Really? I hope that's sarcasm because Billy Mitchell came across as a total D-Bag...
Yeah he did, but I think part of that was the film makers portrayal. He's not perfect, but every film needs a villain. He's probably kind of a dick, but he's comically evil and all those things make him at the very least entertaining.
Well A) that takes the fun out of it, and B)How exactly do you translate that data into real-world actions? Just because you can look at the code and understand how the game is built doesn't mean that you can suddenly master the game in the real world...
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I doubt they care about fun. However, your second point is valid. I'm pretty sure they already did that, but knowing the mathematics and translating that into real actions aren't the same thing.
I'm not competitive in this way so I don't know what kind of data they'd need, but you'd be amazed at the stuff you can find out from source code.
Maybe one of the ghosts has a slight AI quirk that happens when you're directly above or beside him that you don't normally notice because you're moving around so fast. Maybe by knowing the exact number of pixels every character moves per update, you could come up with a new method for faking out the ghosts around one of the corners. Maybe the ghost that moves around randomly isn't actually random, but his next movement is decided by the position of another ghost! That sort of thing. If they're this serious, I would expect them to look into these things, and maybe they have.
Yeah, but most of these games have been played to death, so the pro players already know all the tricks. So there's no point...
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EDIT: Dumb analogy, see below for a marginally less dumb one
I'm not sure I understand what you're getting at...You can learn far more by taking apart the car yourself than you can from reading the manual. There is no substitute for real-world experience.
But in your analogy: Are you saying that taking apart the car==playing the game? Or looking at the code?
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Here's a code example: in Mario All-Stars, the port of Super Mario Bros. has a bug that you might not know about. Many people who played it know that when Mario breaks a block, sometimes he moves up into it rather than bouncing back down. At times he is even propelled upward. By looking at the code, it turns out Nintendo had flipped one bit by mistake, so that when Mario breaks a block he accelerates upward rather than rebounding downward. If you were a speedrunner or highscorer, you would now focus some playtime on this fact to see if you can trigger or avoid that acceleration to your benefit, whereas before you might've thought it was simply random.
Seconded.
I haven't seen King of Kong yet, but I've heard good things about it from friends.
he's like a mega nerd who never realized that being a mega nerd isn't cool, and became supremely confident in his nerdness
it's bizarre.
It's worth watching, even if you weren't into video games.
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Yeah, that was the weirdest thing about that article, I think. How it portrayed these obsessively dorky people in a serious light, almost to the point of being satire.
it is almost satire, isn't it.
like that Walter dude. He's creepy. He's that guy who thinks he has profound insight but really doesn't. He is a self-proclaimed "idea man," rehashing ideas from the new-age soup of nonsense and superstition and recycled aesthetics that pervades our culture. you can tell the author knows it, but he treats Walter's words as serious profound commentary. it's hilarious.
I find that guy much worse than Billy himself, who is at least capable of dissecting and mastering a system.
Woah. Exactly my thoughts.
And I found Walter even more creepy after seeing this pic on Wikipedia:
I don't know that you have the right angle; I think it's that Mitchell's huge ego just makes him think that he's superior to everyone else. Since he's better at Donkey Kong or Pac-Man or whatever it means he's better than everyone else at everything. That definitely stems from the fact that's he's been the man among this tiny community of classic game fanatics for 25+ years, and everyone in that community (esp. Walter, the guy running it all) has fed his ego for that long. At least that's the impression you get from the movie. This article treats him much more fairly but you can still see how much he enjoys being at the center of attention.
Walter is the guy who fits your description. He's the mega-nerd who is perfectly happy in his nerdiness. I mean, the guy wears a referee shirt! Self-parody at the highest level.
That said, I don't give a shit about competitive gaming.
An after seeing that film, I definitely don't understand it.
It's most surreal piece of satire I have ever seen.
I saw it. It was okay. It was fun to watch it after seeing King of Kong as you get to see a lot of the same people and yet NO mention what-so-ever of Steve Wiebe despite using a (very short) clip from his original million point breaking video. The movie is more or less a run down on all the people that were featured in the Time article that was mentioned in King of Kong. Interesting stuff, and more of Roy Shildt acting like a total douche bag. It portrays Billy Mitchell slightly better, while making Walter Day seem a bit crazier.
All in all, worth watching, but it doesn't have the polish to it that King of Kong did. Nor the story, but it is a documentary after all. King of Kong really is more fun to watch.
Such insipid toadying.
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