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Indiana Jones and The Iron Phoenix, Fate of Atlantis' lost sequel

elkataselkatas Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Games and Technology
While browsing NeoGAF today, I found interesting article about Indiana Jones and Fate of Atlantis long lost sequel, Indiana Jones and the Iron Phoenix. I had never even heard about this project, so I decided to post some tidbits about its development so we could weep together for loss of potentially great adventure game. The game was intended to happen in post-war Germany, in year 1947. Group of nazi survivors living in Bolivian are seeking for Philosophers Stone to resurrect Adolf Hitler. Game would have started from Soviet-occupied Berlin, and send Indy to Kiev, Ireland, and Tibet.

The game had been under development for 15 months, until it was canned. But what went wrong? Nearly everything. First problem was that the project was meant to be co-project with unnamed Canadian company. Thanks to their lack of skill, project was severely slowed. Aric Wilmunder, who worked as a lead for the project, dropped out for unspecific reason. He had contributed some parts to the story together with Bill Stoneham (another project lead), Joe Pinney, and Hal Barwood (the man responsible for Fate of Atlantis). Then there was clash between Anson Jew (lead character designer) and Bill Stoneham (who also worked as lead artist). Jew wanted characters to be in art deco style, similar to Batman: the Animated Series, while Stoneham wanted realistic looking backgrounds. Stoneham and few other retards at art team also wanted to dabble with FMV, something that didn't go very well.

The final nail in coffin was that Lucasarts learned from its German distributors that the game wouldn't get release in Germany due censorship. In earlier games, it had been pretty easy to remove any nazi references, but with Iron Phoenix it wouldn't have worked due nature of the plot. Because Germany was one of more important markets for adventure games, game was canned altogether. Fifteen months of work had gone down the drain, and although game was shown in ECTS (E3's predecessor), no footage has survived outside few concept arts. But the storyline was turned into a 4-part long comic series, which was released in 1995 by Dark Horse. The comic retained much of the original plot and even some of the puzzles, but references to Hitler and Bolivia were removed.

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  • SenshiSenshi BALLING OUT OF CONTROL WavefrontRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I woulda played it. Fate of Atlantis remains one of my favorite games of all time.

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  • langfor6langfor6 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Damn it Hitler. Still screwing stuff up for future generations.

    Also, between this and the Team ICO thread, I've had enough disappointment for one day.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fate of Atlantis was such an awesome game...so many hours of my life put into beating that game.

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  • NickTheNewbieNickTheNewbie Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Fuck you for making me think this was actually a new game for a second. Fuck you and die and go to hell and eat dicks.

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  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Speaking of Indiana Jones...wasn't there a new game being made and screens released.

    Whatever happened to it...did it get chopped?

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    Speaking of Indiana Jones...wasn't there a new game being made and screens released.

    With Lucasarts outsourcing all its projects, its current status is unknown. Same goes for PSP game Indiana Jones and Staff of Moses.

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  • JamesDMJamesDM Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I was immensely excited for this upon reading the title and elk's avatar still freaks me out.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It's a shame they didn't use the plot from this for the new film.

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  • SAW776SAW776 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It's a shame they didn't use the plot from this for the new film.

    Unfortunately Harrison is a little old to be playing the younger Indie, or else they might have gone with something like that.

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  • DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I never finished Fate of Atlantis, but I played through it like 6 times.

    I should really try it again (yes, I still have it.)

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  • PatboyXPatboyX Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SAW776 wrote: »
    It's a shame they didn't use the plot from this for the new film.

    Unfortunately Harrison is a little old to be playing the younger Indie, or else they might have gone with something like that.

    I thought the director said he wouldn't do any more movies with "funny" nazis anyway.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SAW776 wrote: »
    It's a shame they didn't use the plot from this for the new film.

    Unfortunately Harrison is a little old to be playing the younger Indie, or else they might have gone with something like that.

    The first mini-adventure is the Nazis blasting Indy with an experimental raygun which turns out to age people considerably. This ties in with the later plot as Hitler would be reincarnated as a baby, and the ray is needed to get him to adulthood.

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  • SAW776SAW776 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    PatboyX wrote: »
    SAW776 wrote: »
    It's a shame they didn't use the plot from this for the new film.

    Unfortunately Harrison is a little old to be playing the younger Indie, or else they might have gone with something like that.

    I thought the director said he wouldn't do any more movies with "funny" nazis anyway.

    Because funny Commie's are so much better? :P
    SAW776 wrote: »
    It's a shame they didn't use the plot from this for the new film.

    Unfortunately Harrison is a little old to be playing the younger Indie, or else they might have gone with something like that.

    The first mini-adventure is the Nazis blasting Indy with an experimental raygun which turns out to age people considerably. This ties in with the later plot as Hitler would be reincarnated as a baby, and the ray is needed to get him to adulthood.

    Maybe experimenting on him since he drank from the Holy Grail and should therefore be more resistant to the effects of aging! Brilliant!

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
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    I guess that comic book's cover was meant to be box art. Usually this stuff is done first for promotional purposes. It is pretty cheesy, tho', especially if compared to Fate of Atlantis box which I really liked.

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  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    indiana jones: STEERS WITH HIS DICK

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    How were the Infernal Machine and Emperor's Tomb? Never played them.
    indiana jones: STEERS WITH HIS DICK

    Pretty scary thought. And what is his left hand doing?

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Yeah, the Fate of Atlantis' box looked like a fucking movie poster.

    That looks more like a poster for a circus show.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Yeah, the Fate of Atlantis' box looked like a fucking movie poster.

    I'm not sure, but I think that comic cover was drawn by Drew Struzan.

    EDIT: Nevermind. Just good copycat.

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I've never heard about that, but it sounds awesome.


    However, I have heard about this: http://www.barnettcollege.com/index2.htm - The spritual successor to Fate of Atlantis. I don't know if it will ever be done, but the people working on it are (or were?) incredibly talented.

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    Edit: Not being I of course check the news site before posting (mmmmmh... yeah) and see that the last one was made only yesterday. Good stuff!

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Yeah, the Fate of Atlantis' box looked like a fucking movie poster.

    That looks more like a poster for a circus show.

    Sunday! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!!!!!!

    Indiana Jones will RIDE A MOTORCYCLE through some FIRE with NAZI STUFF IN THE BACKGROUND!

    Also he'll be shooting a fucking GUN!

    SUNDAAAAAAAAAAAY

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    FireWeasel wrote: »
    Sunday! SUNDAY! SUNDAY!!!!!!

    Indiana Jones will RIDE A MOTORCYCLE through some FIRE with NAZI STUFF IN THE BACKGROUND!

    Also he'll be shooting a fucking GUN!

    While furiously masturbating with his left hand!

    SUNDAAAAAAAAAAAY

    Fixed that for ya. Indy sure is talented and ambidextrous chap.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Visti wrote:
    However, I have heard about this: http://www.barnettcollege.com/index2.htm - The spritual successor to Fate of Atlantis. I don't know if it will ever be done, but the people working on it are (or were?) incredibly talented.

    At least they have updated their webpage January. Of which year, I can't however say. It is shame that promising AGS projects often die painful death.

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  • FireWeaselFireWeasel Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    elkatas wrote: »
    Visti wrote:
    However, I have heard about this: http://www.barnettcollege.com/index2.htm - The spritual successor to Fate of Atlantis. I don't know if it will ever be done, but the people working on it are (or were?) incredibly talented.

    At least they have updated their webpage January. Of which year, I can't however say. It is shame that promising AGS projects often die painful death.

    Dev Diary page says January 10 2006.

    That can't be right given what it says about the demo.

    hmm.

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  • elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    FireWeasel wrote: »
    Dev Diary page says January 10 2006.

    That can't be right given what it says about the demo.

    hmm.

    And previous news piece to january says that they saw the fourth Indy movie.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Considering they're talking about how much they enjoyed the new movie, I expect the update to be from 2009. Not really an indication of progress, but at least they're still alive.

    Edit: Beaten. Why did I have to be beaten?

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  • VistiVisti Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Well, they obviously don't update the dev diary, but the news posts give me hope.

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