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Beavs stuff: thanks for 100 pages of support guys :)

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  • NatriNatri Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Awesome little tutorial, beavo!

    It's probably just my imagination, but I think that fish would make the most original bow tie

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  • GrennGrenn Registered User
    edited January 2010
    Lovely tutorial Beavo, thanks for sharing. :)

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  • rtsrts Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Thanks Beavo. While simple, this definitely made me aware of where I am going wrong when attempting to do this myself, and now I can make the changes necessary to hopefully produce much better results.

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    man that thing with the colors layer is so awesome

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  • LoomdunLoomdun Registered User
    edited January 2010
    this was really really helpful, I'm so photoshop retarded

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'll have to give that a shot. I usually just jump in with the colours, picking/correcting as I go.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    no problem guys!
    I always struggled with getting values right till i discovered this trick
    it's simple and never fails me

    getting proper values with just color can be tricky at times, as you have to think about so many things at once. It doesn't help that photoshop has endless color choices, it ends up being more intuitive at times than say oil painting where you physically mix your colors and values. thinking of values first then applying color separates it into easier to manage steps.

    There's another thing you can do if you don't like working with greys.
    Start your painting in color and work on it. in that adjustment layer button that's in the layers panel, select "black and white" and move that layer to the top of all the other layers. Turning this off and on as you work will show you how it all looks in greyscale.
    You have to keep flicking the layer off and on though, so I prefer just doing the whole thing in grisaille first.

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  • BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Beavo, you seriously need to make a few more tutorials.:P

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  • TamTam Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
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  • MustangMustang Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I'll have to give that a shot. I usually just jump in with the colours, picking/correcting as I go.

    Likewise, I've been having just bucketloads of problems getting my colour and values sorted at the same time. I'm constantly correcting what i've already done and it ends up being a big mess of indicision.

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  • bombardierbombardier Moderator mod
    edited January 2010
    Tam wrote: »
    Buckwolfe wrote: »
    Beavo, you seriously need to make a few more tutorials.:P




    I used those to help learn the pen tool for your SS drawing!

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    i might make another video of some things i get questions on with vectors
    i always get vector questions, they are tricky little buggers

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  • NicNic Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Hey Beav. You're super helpful and stuff. It's real cool or whatever.

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  • BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Nic wrote: »
    Hey Beav. You're super helpful and stuff. It's real cool or whatever.

    Just once I wish someone would say that to me!

    Sigh....

    EDIT - Oh, shit! Your thread made it to 96 pages? Fucking congrats!

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  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Then quit being so down on yourself. It overwhelms anything else you might do.

    Beavo is always so upbeat and happy. You just know she's harboring some dark secret.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    it is going to be the saddest day for me when it hits 100 :(
    we had a lot of laughs, me and this thread
    i'll probably need a moment with it alone.

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  • BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Then dammit, Beavs, I say we keep this shit going to page 100, and beyond! The sky is the limit!!

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    i think tube will probably get mad
    and berate me thusly

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  • BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Just ask yourself...


    "Who are you more afraid of??"

    Think about it.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    i am more afraid of tube than anyone else on this forum

    wait... i might be more afraid of kakos
    it's a toss up really.

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  • BuckwolfeBuckwolfe Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Then I've clearly been slacking!

    If somebody would give me actual forum power, my terror would be far more justifiable. I'm basically just looking for an opportunity really.

    EDIT - I'm gonna stop derailing your thread, and being an asshole now. Its just not fair to your adoring fans:P

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  • LurkLurk Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    I keep thinking that Darwin in your sig is a Santa : V

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2010
    beavotron wrote: »
    i think tube will probably get mad
    and berate me thusly

    Ha.

    "Probably."

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  • bebarcebebarce Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    beavotron wrote: »
    oh that tube
    always good for a laugh

    I was asked for an explanation on my painting process by a forumer so I made a li'l (it's huge actually so i'll link it, not post it) tutorial for all to see.
    I dumbed it down quite a bit, I know said forumer understands pretty much all of this junk, but I'm gonna post it on my deviantart account as well.

    Here's the little guy I made for the tutorial:
    goldfish.jpg

    and here is the link:
    http://frank05.critter.net/images/doodles/goldfishtutorial.jpg

    Awesome tutorial, but i think I lost you when i got to the coloring phase. If i were to brush color on top, wouldnt i lose all the gray tones underneath? (I know this is way too advanced for me to attempt now, but its just curiosity, and i might attempt this with simpler shapes like an orange.)

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  • FletcherFletcher Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    bebarce wrote: »
    beavotron wrote: »
    oh that tube
    always good for a laugh

    I was asked for an explanation on my painting process by a forumer so I made a li'l (it's huge actually so i'll link it, not post it) tutorial for all to see.
    I dumbed it down quite a bit, I know said forumer understands pretty much all of this junk, but I'm gonna post it on my deviantart account as well.

    Here's the little guy I made for the tutorial:
    goldfish.jpg
    and here is the link:
    http://frank05.critter.net/images/doodles/goldfishtutorial.jpg

    Awesome tutorial, but i think I lost you when i got to the coloring phase. If i were to brush color on top, wouldnt i lose all the gray tones underneath? (I know this is way too advanced for me to attempt now, but its just curiosity, and i might attempt this with simpler shapes like an orange.)

    ooh ooh i can help with this one
    colorlayer.gif
    edit: wait, is shades the right term? eh, hopefully it still makes sense

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  • ScosglenScosglen Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    This is actually the simplest method of colorization you can do. It helps to think it like you are applying a transparent colored wash to a drawing-which is why the value information beneath it shows through.

    Photoshop takes the color you want to apply, looks at what you're putting it on top of, and tries to mix an optically similar value of that particular hue. It isn't perfect but it works well enough as a blunt tool.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    yeah fletcher's got it

    and scos is right too
    It's not perfect
    light colors for example produce really muddy colors when put on top of greys
    yellow looks terrible
    which is why you need to make informed decisions when doing this
    you can use it to a point, and then on a layer on top of all of it, add another layer to "fine tune" with colors that didn't quite work out with this method.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    been doing lots of studies of birds lately
    they've got really subtle characteristics I find, and they're super fun to draw.

    anyways, I need to loosen up a bit, all of my traditional drawings tend to be way way too stiff.
    so I took some india ink, giant brushes and a couple nibs and went to town
    this happened.
    definitely more loose than other things I do, I'd love crits on it

    vultureink.jpg

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  • KendeathwalkerKendeathwalker Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    And... this is my favorite thing in the thread.

    Since you want a crit- The line that defines the top/back of his head is a little heavy . You also couldve defined that shape by framing it with a light wash..

    But really Im digging pretty hard to find something to pick at. I like this.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The combination of grass and feathers sticking out at every angle weakens the silhouette near the legs, which is something you'd really want to play up with pen and ink.

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  • NappuccinoNappuccino Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    The way the feathers are laid out makes the right leg look closer than the left leg purely because it is larger but they way the body is positioned suggests the other way is correct.

    Also, it reminds me of some of Ralph Steadman's stuff with the exagurated line weights and such. I really don't have anything else to say but "awesome."

    So... awesome.

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  • GrennGrenn Registered User
    edited January 2010
    Me likey. More spatter! :twisted:

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    thanks guys!
    I was trying hard to think big and general, ignoring the little details, just let it "happen"
    i think for the first little while as i do these, i'm just going to do it that way, and then as i get a feel for the more expressive way of working, i'll start to pick up on ironing out little details

    i literally just slapped ink onto some watercolor paper
    it was honestly sort of liberating
    i usually pour over every little detail, nitpick the shit out of drawings
    to just let loose and draw whatever without worrying about curves matching up and line width variation was really nice.
    i recommend it to anyone

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  • slacktronslacktron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Grenn wrote: »
    Me likey. More spatter! :twisted:

    Same here.
    I'm not sure whether you meant to go all Pollock on the background there, but it serves the concept of a carrion feeder well. You can just smell the nastiness coming from that bird, as effectively as stink lines.

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  • erisian popeerisian pope Registered User
    edited January 2010
    Beavo - I love it! I like artists who pursue this style of free-form ink work. You might guess from my avatar, but I am a huge fan of Patrick McDonnell and he does free-form inking and then watercoloring. He's dreamy! I'm a huge fan of your work in general, and really hope to see more in this vein.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    thanks slack and ep :)
    sort of similar but this time i just did a contour drawing with micron and markers

    babyfrench.jpg

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Fav thing you've done in a while. So expressive and adorablleee. Really lends itself well to the type of dog.

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  • beavotronbeavotron Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    thanks koch!
    being expressive and loose is fun and so much less stressful
    it's like art yoga
    breathe and just go for it.

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  • DirtyDirtyVagrantDirtyDirtyVagrant Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    Great stuff as per usual.

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  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    edited January 2010
    It's really interesting to see it from you too, because like, I love your stuff but it is very much controlled-clean-composed-well thought out(which is a good thing for what you're doing), whereas this is more BAM ITS A FAHKIN VULTURE

    but it also shows that because you've been labouring over getting your shit right for so long, you're so good at it now you're just able to go BAM ITS A DOG DAWG

    I imagine you saying bam when drawing. This all seems like a very good release. Where is my india ink, brb

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