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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Druhim wrote: »
    Orikaeshigitae wrote: »
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    What pissed me off the most was this article in newsweek talking about the 'backwards evolution' of big game.

    Saying that animals like elephants are losing their tusks/horns because the ones with the biggest tusks/horns have been hunted.

    That's retarded. That is evolution right there. The animals that had a trait that made them less likely to be killed survived and passed their genes on to the next generation.

    no, clearly it's only evolution if you get bigger

    (america is fat joke)
    yes, we are the most evolved

    The Darwin F-150

    by these criteria an F-350 with dual rear wheels would be a more evolved species

    this species is also known to be decorated with "truck nutz" and confederate flag stickers

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  • the wookthe wook Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Weaver wrote: »
    My ancestors lived in high elevation regions in northern latitudes. The nasal cavity serves to warm and moisten air as it is breathed in. Due to the colder, drier air, we have larger nasal cavities.

    Weaver's ancestors also worshiped the crescent moon

    the wook on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Weaver wrote: »
    If you were banging Natalie Portman, would it mess you up in the head to watch Leon?

    more importantly

    after watching hard candy could you ever find ellen page attractive without fear

    Pony on
  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    How is it that one of the advanced countries on the planet can somehow manage to be so backwards-minded sometimes

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    It doesn't make them retarded. They had an explanation to a horrific affliction stripped away. The explanation grounded them and probably helped them get through each day. Lashing out in emotional desperation does not make them retarded, Viv.
    how doesn't ignoring rational and scientific explanations by people far smarter and better trained than they are not make them retarded?

    it maybe makes their plight understandable, but purely from an intellectual standpoint they certainly don't rank very high on the ladder.

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  • BibbleBibble __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    i cannot believe this fan death shit

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Bibble wrote: »
    i cannot believe this fan death shit

    now you know how europeans feel about america

    Pony on
  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    rainbow text death

    you stopped just in time bibs

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    I mean what do parents actually think vaccines seriously HURT their children?

    I'm so confused

    it's called immune systems and antibodies

    oh god what is wrong with the world

    Two things.

    1st, the development systems of babies is still something of a mystery, so you can't presume what is medically acceptable for adults is true for babies.

    2nd, the people who are pissed are by and large parents of autistic children who are mad at the world and are looking for some explanation as to why their children turned out this way. The belief that vaccines could cause autism was actually a well-spread idea. What this does is rob those parents of their explanation that absolved them of fault. No longer can they rationally rage at a clear mistake that someone else did. Part of the reason why they are upset is because they believe that they will be to blame for their child's autism.

    this is why for babies, vaccines are given periodically... "booster" shots, if you will

    and as for the latter point you make, UGH, you're right on that, but FUCK if that doesn't make them retarded

    It doesn't make them retarded. They had an explanation to a horrific affliction stripped away. The explanation grounded them and probably helped them get through each day. Lashing out in emotional desperation does not make them retarded, Viv.
    No, you're retarded if you're going to blame something entirely unrelated for what's happened to your child. It's one thing to bemoan the fact that your child ended up this way and be angry about it because for all you know it wasn't your fault. It's another to pick up a giant sign and march into a crowd of protestors and shout about how vaccines suck JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE TO BLAME.

    We might not agree on what makes retarded parents, but fuck - blaming vaccines for causing autism is effectively HARMING their children because a) it doesn't help the child any, now does it and b) they will raise that child to hate vaccines, and if that child reproduces, their kids will not get vaccinated, and OH GUESS WHAT HAPPENS THEN!

    Grieving, lashing out in anger, that's fine. But taking up a stupid fucking cause as a means to lash out is fucking RETARDED.

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  • HarrierHarrier The Star Spangled Man Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    the wook wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    My ancestors lived in high elevation regions in northern latitudes. The nasal cavity serves to warm and moisten air as it is breathed in. Due to the colder, drier air, we have larger nasal cavities.

    Weaver's ancestors also worshiped the crescent moon
    Well it's commonly acknowledged that the moon is the shit

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Cloudman wrote: »
    How is it that one of the advanced countries on the planet can somehow manage to be so backwards-minded sometimes

    clearly, this is due to the fact that we've got generations of people who are retarded because of vaccinations

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  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    is the cure to autism to rail jenny mccarthy

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    It doesn't make them retarded. They had an explanation to a horrific affliction stripped away. The explanation grounded them and probably helped them get through each day. Lashing out in emotional desperation does not make them retarded, Viv.
    how doesn't ignoring rational and scientific explanations by people far smarter and better trained than they are not make them retarded?

    it maybe makes their plight understandable, but purely from an intellectual standpoint they certainly don't rank very high on the ladder.

    :|

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Pony wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    If you were banging Natalie Portman, would it mess you up in the head to watch Leon?

    more importantly

    after watching hard candy could you ever find ellen page attractive without fear
    oh mannnn

    Faricazy on
  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Orikaeshigitae wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    there's a type of adorable rodent in peru that has learned to survive exclusively on being cute and getting hand-outs from people

    so only the cutest animals are surviving because they're getting the most food

    it's adorable darwinism!

    that's

    that makes me so happy on the one hand

    on the other.. they'd have no chance in the wild

    i guess like domesticated dog breeds don't really adapt well to being let out into 'the wild' (i.e. the city)

    But island dwarfism!
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    Mr. Tusks!! That's not how evolution works!


    comic2-1106.png

    the alt text in this one is long and I don't want to type it

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    I mean what do parents actually think vaccines seriously HURT their children?

    I'm so confused

    it's called immune systems and antibodies

    oh god what is wrong with the world

    Two things.

    1st, the development systems of babies is still something of a mystery, so you can't presume what is medically acceptable for adults is true for babies.

    2nd, the people who are pissed are by and large parents of autistic children who are mad at the world and are looking for some explanation as to why their children turned out this way. The belief that vaccines could cause autism was actually a well-spread idea. What this does is rob those parents of their explanation that absolved them of fault. No longer can they rationally rage at a clear mistake that someone else did. Part of the reason why they are upset is because they believe that they will be to blame for their child's autism.

    this is why for babies, vaccines are given periodically... "booster" shots, if you will

    and as for the latter point you make, UGH, you're right on that, but FUCK if that doesn't make them retarded

    It doesn't make them retarded. They had an explanation to a horrific affliction stripped away. The explanation grounded them and probably helped them get through each day. Lashing out in emotional desperation does not make them retarded, Viv.
    No, you're retarded if you're going to blame something entirely unrelated for what's happened to your child. It's one thing to bemoan the fact that your child ended up this way and be angry about it because for all you know it wasn't your fault. It's another to pick up a giant sign and march into a crowd of protestors and shout about how vaccines suck JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE TO BLAME.

    We might not agree on what makes retarded parents, but fuck - blaming vaccines for causing autism is effectively HARMING their children because a) it doesn't help the child any, now does it and b) they will raise that child to hate vaccines, and if that child reproduces, their kids will not get vaccinated, and OH GUESS WHAT HAPPENS THEN!

    Grieving, lashing out in anger, that's fine. But taking up a stupid fucking cause as a means to lash out is fucking RETARDED.

    You should be pissed at the people that spread the idea. The parents that are lashing out aren't the ones that came up with it.

    And really, do you want wiggin reproducing?

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    llama maybe you should evolve to not be late with the tinytowne references <3

    Faricazy on
  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The secret ending to Half-Life 2 is that the combine advisers are Americans from the year 87513C.E.

    Weaver on
  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Island Biogeography is pretty sweet.

    Just sayin'.

    Horseshoe on
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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    way to go America!

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    AMERICA

    FUCK YEEAAHHH

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    Munkus Beaver wrote: »
    Vivixenne wrote: »
    I mean what do parents actually think vaccines seriously HURT their children?

    I'm so confused

    it's called immune systems and antibodies

    oh god what is wrong with the world

    Two things.

    1st, the development systems of babies is still something of a mystery, so you can't presume what is medically acceptable for adults is true for babies.

    2nd, the people who are pissed are by and large parents of autistic children who are mad at the world and are looking for some explanation as to why their children turned out this way. The belief that vaccines could cause autism was actually a well-spread idea. What this does is rob those parents of their explanation that absolved them of fault. No longer can they rationally rage at a clear mistake that someone else did. Part of the reason why they are upset is because they believe that they will be to blame for their child's autism.

    this is why for babies, vaccines are given periodically... "booster" shots, if you will

    and as for the latter point you make, UGH, you're right on that, but FUCK if that doesn't make them retarded

    It doesn't make them retarded. They had an explanation to a horrific affliction stripped away. The explanation grounded them and probably helped them get through each day. Lashing out in emotional desperation does not make them retarded, Viv.
    No, you're retarded if you're going to blame something entirely unrelated for what's happened to your child. It's one thing to bemoan the fact that your child ended up this way and be angry about it because for all you know it wasn't your fault. It's another to pick up a giant sign and march into a crowd of protestors and shout about how vaccines suck JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE THERE TO BLAME.

    We might not agree on what makes retarded parents, but fuck - blaming vaccines for causing autism is effectively HARMING their children because a) it doesn't help the child any, now does it and b) they will raise that child to hate vaccines, and if that child reproduces, their kids will not get vaccinated, and OH GUESS WHAT HAPPENS THEN!

    Grieving, lashing out in anger, that's fine. But taking up a stupid fucking cause as a means to lash out is fucking RETARDED.

    You should be pissed at the people that spread the idea. The parents that are lashing out aren't the ones that came up with it.

    And really, do you want wiggin reproducing?

    Son, that's like blaming cigarette companies for people smoking. It's fucking stupid as shit, people can make their own decisions as to what to believe and what NOT to believe, what to do and NOT do. People who BELIEVE this BULLSHIT are retarded.

    You yourself are accusing them of being individuals who cannot think for themselves and believe the dumbest shit they hear just because so-and-so said it. How does that NOT make such individuals RETARDED?

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  • JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Pseudoscience doesn't really piss me off as much as it used to. It's really hard to convince people that they're being morons, and the problem is bound to solve itself eventually. After all, the better medical science gets, the faster they're killing themselves off. Relatively speaking.

    Besides, they may have numbers on their side for the time being, but I don't see homeopaths fielding an army of unstoppable kill-bots any time soon. Science, bitches.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Americans

    Fuck them but doooooooooooooon't fuck them (they get preggers easy)

    Weaver on
  • OrikaeshigitaeOrikaeshigitae Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    L|ama wrote: »
    Orikaeshigitae wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    there's a type of adorable rodent in peru that has learned to survive exclusively on being cute and getting hand-outs from people

    so only the cutest animals are surviving because they're getting the most food

    it's adorable darwinism!

    that's

    that makes me so happy on the one hand

    on the other.. they'd have no chance in the wild

    i guess like domesticated dog breeds don't really adapt well to being let out into 'the wild' (i.e. the city)

    But island dwarfism!
    comic2-1105.png
    Mr. Tusks!! That's not how evolution works!


    comic2-1106.png

    the alt text in this one is long and I don't want to type it

    oh man

    400 orikpoints for qwantz, my primary source for learning about quirky science concepts

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    If you were banging Natalie Portman, would it mess you up in the head to watch Leon?

    more importantly

    after watching hard candy could you ever find ellen page attractive without fear
    oh mannnn

    that movie was almost physically painful to watch

    every guy in the theater was as one in their synchronized groaning and crossing of the legs

    Grey Ghost on
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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Pseudoscience doesn't really piss me off as much as it used to. It's really hard to convince people that they're being morons, and the problem is bound to solve itself eventually. After all, the better medical science gets, the faster they're killing themselves off. Relatively speaking.

    Besides, they may have numbers on their side for the time being, but I don't see homeopaths fielding an army of unstoppable kill-bots any time soon. Science, bitches.

    Well admittedly the homeopaths only need the killer robots left foot.

    Weaver on
  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    As bad as the anti-vaccinationists are, they are still not as bad as the people that deny the fact that HIV causes AIDS

    Marathon on
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Marathon wrote: »
    As bad as the anti-vaccinationists are, they are still not as bad as the people that deny the fact that HIV causes AIDS

    Not a Foo Fighter's fan, I take it.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I could understand a misconception from the fact that you can carry the HIV virus but not actually have AIDS as it hasn't started doing it's thing yet

    Weaver on
  • L|amaL|ama Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Faricazy wrote: »
    llama maybe you should evolve to not be late with the tinytowne references <3

    On the other hand I am helping people to discover qwantz, or helping people who started reading qwantz after those comics see them now! Altruism at its best.

    Orikaeshigitae wrote: »
    L|ama wrote: »
    Orikaeshigitae wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    there's a type of adorable rodent in peru that has learned to survive exclusively on being cute and getting hand-outs from people

    so only the cutest animals are surviving because they're getting the most food

    it's adorable darwinism!

    that's

    that makes me so happy on the one hand

    on the other.. they'd have no chance in the wild

    i guess like domesticated dog breeds don't really adapt well to being let out into 'the wild' (i.e. the city)

    But island dwarfism!
    comic2-1105.png
    Mr. Tusks!! That's not how evolution works!


    comic2-1106.png

    the alt text in this one is long and I don't want to type it

    oh man

    400 orikpoints for qwantz, my primary source for learning about quirky science concepts

    Haha yeah, I have heard about a lot of stuff I never would have otherwise thanks to mr. north

    Jedoc wrote: »
    Pseudoscience doesn't really piss me off as much as it used to. It's really hard to convince people that they're being morons, and the problem is bound to solve itself eventually. After all, the better medical science gets, the faster they're killing themselves off. Relatively speaking.

    Besides, they may have numbers on their side for the time being, but I don't see homeopaths fielding an army of unstoppable kill-bots any time soon. Science, bitches.

    Unless they gain enough clout to interfere with funding of medical research.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Faricazy wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »
    If you were banging Natalie Portman, would it mess you up in the head to watch Leon?

    more importantly

    after watching hard candy could you ever find ellen page attractive without fear
    oh mannnn

    that movie was almost physically painful to watch

    every guy in the theater was as one in their synchronized groaning and crossing of the legs
    the worst was how they had the camera on the dude's face while she was doing it

    fuckkkk

    Faricazy on
  • MeissnerdMeissnerd Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The Far Side wrote: »
    meiss for best post itt

    as usual 8-)

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  • QuothQuoth the Raven Miami, FL FOR REALRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    the important thing here is WHERE IS MY TINY ELEPHANT GIVE IT TO ME NOW

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  • VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared! Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Quoth wrote: »
    the important thing here is WHERE IS MY TINY ELEPHANT GIVE IT TO ME NOW

    I CONCUR

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  • HorseshoeHorseshoe Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Pseudoscience doesn't really piss me off as much as it used to. It's really hard to convince people that they're being morons, and the problem is bound to solve itself eventually. After all, the better medical science gets, the faster they're killing themselves off. Relatively speaking.

    Besides, they may have numbers on their side for the time being, but I don't see homeopaths fielding an army of unstoppable kill-bots any time soon. Science, bitches.

    As science develops its unstoppable kill-bots the armies of the believers will be stuck at home with the flu.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The concept of AIDS is just fucking scary

    the immune system just shuts down and it's like, the gates are open and the barbarians just come rushing in

    I can't even imagine the steps that led to the evolution of such a thing

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    i want a tiny mammoth instead though

    as a general rule, furry animals are cuter than non-furry animals

    they actually managed to extract DNA from a long-frozen cat i think and are hoping to use the same technology to get mammoth dna in which case BABY MAMMOTH CLONES

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    The concept of AIDS is just fucking scary

    the immune system just shuts down and it's like, the gates are open and the barbarians just come rushing in

    I can't even imagine the steps that led to the evolution of such a thing
    who's touching these monkeys, please

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