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Empire: Total War - More indepth 1700's information than you can imagine! [NSF56K]

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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Ergandar wrote: »
    Asher wrote: »
    Medieval 2 is pretty good, especially when fully patched with the expansions. It's now my favourite Total War game.

    Westeros mod you say? Where did you find this. This may warrant a reinstall.

    Alright, when I regret it two months from now when Empire is released, you're to blame. :P

    edit: Steam isn't authorizing my paypal purchase, sadly.


    You won't.

    I'm still playing it off and on and I pre-ordered it on release day.

    Expansion rocks as well, especially the Teutonic Order scenario.

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  • GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    TekDragon wrote: »
    After seeing how dismally disappointing DoW2 is, it looks like this game will be getting my money instead.

    See... I regard Total War in a different 'stable' to other RTS games like Dawn of War. I don't know why. It's just so different to DOW, COH, C&C etc etc.
    It's a lot closer to Civilization and Europa Universalis than it is to most RTS games. When it comes to the RTS portion, it's really almost like playing a tabletop wargame.

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    widowson wrote: »
    Ergandar wrote: »
    Asher wrote: »
    Medieval 2 is pretty good, especially when fully patched with the expansions. It's now my favourite Total War game.

    Westeros mod you say? Where did you find this. This may warrant a reinstall.

    Alright, when I regret it two months from now when Empire is released, you're to blame. :P

    edit: Steam isn't authorizing my paypal purchase, sadly.


    You won't.

    I'm still playing it off and on and I pre-ordered it on release day.

    Expansion rocks as well, especially the Teutonic Order scenario.

    I was personally fond of the Britannia campaign, party because It's the one most like the grand campaign (therefore the AI doesn't act as much of an idiot) partly because I'm mostly British/Irish decent, and the rest because:

    The music for it's intro was Awesome

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I bought Medieval II Gold at Walmart for 10 bucks, so you might want to hold off on Steam. (Actually it might have been Circuit City where I bought it, it's been a while).

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  • VicVic Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I really super hope they are not reducing the complexity of this game to "streamline" the gameplay. If it is less complicated than Medieval 2 rather than more I will be sorely disappointed.

    What I really have a craving for is a game with huge scale country management, including both war and conflict. Something like Europa Universalis 3, only not as infuriating.

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  • ErgandarErgandar Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Food wrote: »
    I bought Medieval II Gold at Walmart for 10 bucks, so you might want to hold off on Steam. (Actually it might have been Circuit City where I bought it, it's been a while).

    Walmart's site lists it at 29$, and I obviously couldn't obtain it at circuit city nowadays.

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  • widowsonwidowson Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Foefaller wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »
    Ergandar wrote: »
    Asher wrote: »
    Medieval 2 is pretty good, especially when fully patched with the expansions. It's now my favourite Total War game.

    Westeros mod you say? Where did you find this. This may warrant a reinstall.

    Alright, when I regret it two months from now when Empire is released, you're to blame. :P

    edit: Steam isn't authorizing my paypal purchase, sadly.


    You won't.

    I'm still playing it off and on and I pre-ordered it on release day.

    Expansion rocks as well, especially the Teutonic Order scenario.

    I was personally fond of the Britannia campaign, party because It's the one most like the grand campaign (therefore the AI doesn't act as much of an idiot) partly because I'm mostly British/Irish decent, and the rest because:

    The music for it's intro was Awesome


    That's got to make for some interesting family reunions......

    Anyhow, forgot about that; Enya + kick-ass martial drums. What I want, though, is a game where you really do have that many figures on the b-field at one time.

    Same number of units, 20, but each has like 100+ troops in it. That would look super-epic.

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  • PolloDiabloPolloDiablo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    widowson wrote: »
    What I want, though, is a game where you really do have that many figures on the b-field at one time.

    Same number of units, 20, but each has like 100+ troops in it. That would look super-epic.


    Just crank the unit sizes to "huge" in the options.

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  • Death Cab For AlbieDeath Cab For Albie Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I know it's unlikely, but a Total War: Civil War, would be pretty fun.

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    widowson wrote: »
    Foefaller wrote: »
    widowson wrote: »
    Ergandar wrote: »
    Asher wrote: »
    Medieval 2 is pretty good, especially when fully patched with the expansions. It's now my favourite Total War game.

    Westeros mod you say? Where did you find this. This may warrant a reinstall.

    Alright, when I regret it two months from now when Empire is released, you're to blame. :P

    edit: Steam isn't authorizing my paypal purchase, sadly.


    You won't.

    I'm still playing it off and on and I pre-ordered it on release day.

    Expansion rocks as well, especially the Teutonic Order scenario.

    I was personally fond of the Britannia campaign, party because It's the one most like the grand campaign (therefore the AI doesn't act as much of an idiot) partly because I'm mostly British/Irish decent, and the rest because:

    The music for it's intro was Awesome


    That's got to make for some interesting family reunions......

    Accually, since my dad was adopted, Him and I are the only ones of Irish decent, something that everyone else (playfully) makes fun of :D

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  • PharezonPharezon Struggle is an illusion. Victory is in the Qun.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Does anyone know the name of the song used in that intro?

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  • JerikTelorianJerikTelorian Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I know it's unlikely, but a Total War: Civil War, would be pretty fun.

    I'd bet that there's a Civil War mod out for Empire, and probably of good quality. I mean, the tweaks would pretty much be centered around making the weapons more accurate, and fire slightly faster.

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    Shade wrote: »
    Anyone notice how some things (mattresses and the copy machines in Highrise) are totally impenetrable? A steel wall, yeah that makes sense, but bullets should obliterate copy machines.

    I don't know about you, but I always buy a bullet proof printer. Its a lot more expensive, but I think the advantages are apparent.
  • AntiQuoAntiQuo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Just bought the gold edition of M2TW on Steam, which faction do you guys recommend I go stomping with for my first game? Or should I just jump right into the expansion campaigns?

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I know it's unlikely, but a Total War: Civil War, would be pretty fun.

    I'd bet that there's a Civil War mod out for Empire, and probably of good quality. I mean, the tweaks would pretty much be centered around making the weapons more accurate, and fire slightly faster.

    The trickiest bit would be the campaign map itself. I guess you could add railroads but maybe you could only slowly build them up.



    AQ: It depends on what you are looking for. If this is your first TW game then I'd say England is a good place to start just because your homeland will be easy to defend.

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  • DemiurgeDemiurge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Whats with the elite units package? I see it on steam for friggin 10€, thats ridiculous for a few models with better stats that you propably can't use in multiplayer anyway.

    Oh they seem to have removed the stand alone elite units pack and just bundled it as a seperate pre-order for the extra 10€ :|

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  • AntiQuoAntiQuo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Demiurge wrote: »
    Whats with the elite units package? I see it on steam for friggin 10€, thats ridiculous for a few models with better stats that you propably can't use in multiplayer anyway.

    Oh they seem to have removed the stand alone elite units pack and just bundled it as a seperate pre-order for the extra 10€ :|

    Not worth it imo, what are the odds that somebody is going to mod them into the game <2 hours after release? I would say nearly 100%.

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  • P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Vic wrote: »
    I really super hope they are not reducing the complexity of this game to "streamline" the gameplay. If it is less complicated than Medieval 2 rather than more I will be sorely disappointed.

    What I really have a craving for is a game with huge scale country management, including both war and conflict. Something like Europa Universalis 3, only not as infuriating.
    They need to make the country-management part better. The battles were fun as hell, but the economy made no sense (to me at least) and the way your leaders developed traits felt random and too punitive. You'd get a lot of bad traits for no real reason, it felt.

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  • CarcharodontosaurusCarcharodontosaurus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Vic wrote: »
    I really super hope they are not reducing the complexity of this game to "streamline" the gameplay. If it is less complicated than Medieval 2 rather than more I will be sorely disappointed.

    What I really have a craving for is a game with huge scale country management, including both war and conflict. Something like Europa Universalis 3, only not as infuriating.
    They need to make the country-management part better. The battles were fun as hell, but the economy made no sense (to me at least) and the way your leaders developed traits felt random and too punitive. You'd get a lot of bad traits for no real reason, it felt.

    The worst Total War in terms of leaders getting horrible traits was Barbarian Invasion. Unless the leader was constantly fighting and winning heroically, they'd inevitably degenerate into a dog raping, blood drinking, money stealing, economy ruining psychopath. It kind of fit the setting, but leaders in Barbarian Invasion could become awfully horrible awfully quickly.

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  • FoodFood Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    widowson wrote: »
    What I want, though, is a game where you really do have that many figures on the b-field at one time.

    Same number of units, 20, but each has like 100+ troops in it. That would look super-epic.


    Just crank the unit sizes to "huge" in the options.

    Whoa... you can do that? Could you do that in Rome too?

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  • AsherAsher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'm pretty sure changable unit sizes have been in every Total War game.

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  • War BastardWar Bastard Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Oh I'm gonna look forward to doing this to the rebel colonial peasants!

    'Fraid as children!

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So, one of the trailers showed who I'm sure was Louis XVI watching revolutionaries storming Versailles. If I choose France to play as, will I be forced to play as the revolutionaries with crippled armies and navies because they killed all the noble-born generals and admirals? Or will I be able to choose to fight on the side of the royalists and suppress the revolution? I'm just curious - I'll probably start as Austria-Hungary anyway, but they made a point of showing the start of the French Revolution, so I'd be interested to know.

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    Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
  • SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Needs more Prussia love.

    Strength in discipline, not to mention all the neatest imagery.

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  • KartanKartan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    you can play as either side, and the revolution won't necessarily fire in 1789 - overchar....I mean, tax your peasants acording to their status and you will have a revolution on your hands in no time at all.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Kartan wrote: »
    you can play as either side, and the revolution won't necessarily fire in 1789 - overchar....I mean, tax your peasants acording to their status and you will have a revolution on your hands in no time at all.

    Awesome. Vive le roi! :rotate:

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    ...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.

    Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Suriko wrote: »
    Needs more Prussia love.

    Strength in discipline, not to mention all the neatest imagery.

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    Prussia my arse!

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  • War BastardWar Bastard Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Do you think that the natives or opponents of Europeans during this time period thought, "Goddamn these bastards are killing us and taking our land but my God they look good while they do it! Such a snappy uniform, I forgot to resist I was so impressed by the fashion."

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    that is a goddamn snappy uniform. my word.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I need to figure out the system specs for this game, I don't know if my machine can handle it.

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  • CG FaggotryCG Faggotry BristolRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    I need to figure out the system specs for this game, I don't know if my machine can handle it.


    The minimum system specifications for Empire: Total War are:
    Operating System: Windows XP 32(service pack 2), Windows Vista 32 OS.
    Processor: 2.4 GHz Single Core Intel or AMD equivalent processor.
    System Memory: 1GB RAM (XP) 2GB RAM (Vista).
    Graphics Card: 256MB DirectX 9.0c compatible video card (shader 2.0 or higher).
    Sound Card: Directx9.0c compatible sound card.
    Windows compatible mouse & keyboard.
    15 GB free uncompressed hard drive space.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    widowson wrote: »

    For me, Total War: China needs to be done. Koei hasn't really improved on the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms enough for my liking in, well, over a decade so I'd like to see Creative Assembly take a shot at it.

    Shogun:Total War made me forget all about Nobunaga's Ambition.

    On that note, Japan needs redone since it's been so long; give it the same treatement that Medieval got.

    Anyone else think Warhammer:Total War is nerdgasim-worthy? Orks could be treated like barbarian hordes in Rome:Barbarian invasion, elect Emperors like you elect popes in Medieval, ect.

    I love Romance of the 3 Kingdoms(the book), and the Dynasty Warriors series. That would kickass as a Total War game. I'd also like to see Roman/Ancient combat get a decent game. Rome has horrible gameplay.

    As for the ACW, unless CA are particularly interested in the topic, I doubt it would happen. They are based in the UK.

    What I'm looking forward to most about Empire is the return of pitched battles. Haven't really had much of them since Medieval 1. Though, in Kingdoms, the AI seems to sally/reinforce more often so get you get pitched battles instead of sieges sometimes.

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  • Mr BlondeMr Blonde Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Suriko wrote: »
    Needs more Prussia love.

    Strength in discipline, not to mention all the neatest imagery.

    I'll be playing Prussia on my first campaign and my initial primary objective will be the creation of Grossdeutschland.

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  • lowlylowlycooklowlylowlycook Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Mr Blonde wrote: »
    Suriko wrote: »
    Needs more Prussia love.

    Strength in discipline, not to mention all the neatest imagery.

    I'll be playing Prussia on my first campaign and my initial primary objective will be the creation of Grossdeutschland.

    One thing I doubt is that any Total War diplomacy engine is ever going to be up to you playing Bismark.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I don't know which factions I"ll go for yet. In MTW 2, my favourites were the Mongols for single player and Spain for multiplayer. In 1 I liked the Almohad Dynasty for single and Switzerland in multi.

    Completely new game mechanics, so I don't know what will be the most fun.

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  • CronusCronus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I don't know which factions I"ll go for yet. In MTW 2, my favourites were the Mongols for single player and Spain for multiplayer. In 1 I liked the Almohad Dynasty for single and Switzerland in multi.

    Completely new game mechanics, so I don't know what will be the most fun.

    The answer to that should always be, "The faction that results in the most explosions." Or at least that's my choice process. Makes it easy.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    While we're on the subject of Total War, were the bugs involving two handed melee sucking due to slower animations ever fixed or do you have to play Stainless Steel to use them properly?

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  • Mr BlondeMr Blonde Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Mr Blonde wrote: »
    Suriko wrote: »
    Needs more Prussia love.

    Strength in discipline, not to mention all the neatest imagery.

    I'll be playing Prussia on my first campaign and my initial primary objective will be the creation of Grossdeutschland.

    One thing I doubt is that any Total War diplomacy engine is ever going to be up to you playing Bismark.

    Pfft, diplomacy wasn't the primary method that brought about Kleindeutschland; rather a whole lot of ass kicking. I just intend to kick a little more ass than Bismarck ever did.

    I can't wait for campaign multiplayer. Reminds me of the days when we did multi-single player campaign here, but this shall hopefully be infinitely more awesome.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I don't know which factions I"ll go for yet. In MTW 2, my favourites were the Mongols for single player and Spain for multiplayer. In 1 I liked the Almohad Dynasty for single and Switzerland in multi.

    Completely new game mechanics, so I don't know what will be the most fun.

    I'm not sure how historically accurate the game will end up but, roughly speaking Britain should have the best guns, France the most elite troops, Prussia is... swarms and melee if memory serves?

    If you liked mongols you might want to try to find the faction with the best cavalry.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    I don't know which factions I"ll go for yet. In MTW 2, my favourites were the Mongols for single player and Spain for multiplayer. In 1 I liked the Almohad Dynasty for single and Switzerland in multi.

    Completely new game mechanics, so I don't know what will be the most fun.

    I'm not sure how historically accurate the game will end up but, roughly speaking Britain should have the best guns, France the most elite troops, Prussia is... swarms and melee if memory serves?

    If you liked mongols you might want to try to find the faction with the best cavalry.

    You're thinking of Russia. Prussia is German, known for their well disciplined and trained men. :P

    I liked Mongols for horse archery, which won't be in this period. I'm not actually a big fan of melee cavalry, I would field a few just to give my army some hitting power on the flanks, but I'm more a defensive infantry commander when it comes to melee. Horse archers let me force them to come to my big blocks of spears.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You're thinking of Russia. Prussia is German, known for their well disciplined and trained men. :P

    I liked Mongols for horse archery, which won't be in this period. I'm not actually a big fan of melee cavalry, I would field a few just to give my army some hitting power on the flanks, but I'm more a defensive infantry commander.

    Ah right, silly me.

    Well, if they go all out on the historical accuracy (don't know if they will) there should be units on horseback with muskets. They generally wouldn't fire from horseback, but they'd use their horses to rapidly re-deploy around the battlefield.

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