There was this one time a hawk went through the leading edge of one our planes. The entire steel-aluminum alloy frame caved in like it was pegged by RPG full of blood.
I wanted to kick the pilot off the stand while shouting "THIS IS EXTRA MAINTENANCE" as she stood there going "Oh, did I do that? Teehee" and taking pictures of the massive damage (She was a blond).
It's really no surprise that a flock of birds took out the plane, though I really doubt the smaller birds fragmented the engines. I'm assuming they clogged the engines if anything. Small birds usually just shatter on impact against most aircraft structures.
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I mean, that plane still had to hit the water at nigh 100 mph, with the engine nacelles going under first. It is so, so easy to end up digging in a wing and then ending up with the aircraft in pieces and upside-down. Good job, pilot!
Really? In what way was he involved in anything that happened? Or is he seriously going to declare War On Migratory Birds?
He could probably work in a plug for the republican platform on illegal immigration somehow.
On the one hand, this outcome isn't wholly surprising to me. Commercial pilots are trained, trained, trained, and then trained some more. You have to be pretty much perfect to be one, and you have to prove that you can do a reasonably serviceable landing under horrible conditions (no landing gear, no engines, stalling, you name it). That's one reason air travel is so safe (that, and the planes themselves are usually designed extremely well).
However, these guys went above and beyond. A situation like this with only a few casualties would be considered a damn good job, but zero? And not even that many injuries? It doesn't get much better than that.
Really? In what way was he involved in anything that happened? Or is he seriously going to declare War On Migratory Birds?
He could probably work in a plug for the republican platform on illegal immigration somehow.
On the one hand, this outcome isn't wholly surprising to me. Commercial pilots are trained, trained, trained, and then trained some more. You have to be pretty much perfect to be one, and you have to prove that you can do a reasonably serviceable landing under horrible conditions (no landing gear, no engines, stalling, you name it). That's one reason air travel is so safe (that, and the planes themselves are usually designed extremely well).
However, these guys went above and beyond. A situation like this with only a few casualties would be considered a damn good job, but zero? And not even that many injuries? It doesn't get much better than that.
It's not their fault. Geese are the dumbest fucking warm-blooded creatures on earth.
What the fuck where they doing up there in January? I'm kickin it in Florida as we speak.
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Really? In what way was he involved in anything that happened? Or is he seriously going to declare War On Migratory Birds?
He could probably work in a plug for the republican platform on illegal immigration somehow.
On the one hand, this outcome isn't wholly surprising to me. Commercial pilots are trained, trained, trained, and then trained some more. You have to be pretty much perfect to be one, and you have to prove that you can do a reasonably serviceable landing under horrible conditions (no landing gear, no engines, stalling, you name it). That's one reason air travel is so safe (that, and the planes themselves are usually designed extremely well).
However, these guys went above and beyond. A situation like this with only a few casualties would be considered a damn good job, but zero? And not even that many injuries? It doesn't get much better than that.
It's not their fault. Geese are the dumbest fucking warm-blooded creatures on earth.
What the fuck where they doing up there in January? I'm kickin it in Florida as we speak.
Flying gliders is so much fun. There's a great club and a nice series of ridges about 20 minutes away from my school. With conditions just right, you can stay up there hugging the hills for a solid couple of hours on a single tow.
Turns out the captain also just happens to be rated as a CFI-Glider. Goddamn it feels good to be right. 8-)
He also runs a consulting firm that deals with aviation safety. Basically, USAir got incredibly lucky and had the absolutely best possible pilot in this situation behind the stick.
Very impressive, and at the same time I am honestly not all that surprised. Airline pilots can do some ridiculous shit with those planes.
I live in the suburbs south of Atlanta, so practically every third house here is owned by an airline pilot, including the parents of a couple friends of mine.
A number of years ago, one such friend's dad got some time on one of Delta's 727 simulators and took us up there. He had us landing virtual planes for a while, in the course of which we, being about thirteen years old at the time, discovered a number of ways in which the simulator does not match up with real life, such as the fact that if you nosedive a 727 directly into the ground, the simulator believes that it will respond by bouncing.
However, after we had our fun, he put us in control of the sim conditions and we got to make him land planes in the most horrendous conditions possible. We were trying our damndest to crash him, with no success. It reached the point where we had him land in the middle of what was basically a hurricane, with heavy crosswinds, zero visibility, no instrumentation, an awkward initial angle of approach, and with us randomly turning his engines off and on in a deliberate attempt to make him overcorrect and send him off the side of the runway.
He landed flawlessly, and then turned around and asked us 'what, is that all you're gonna do?'
Apparently those are fairly routine training conditions, at least from time to time or when you've really irritated the evaluator.
Very impressive, and at the same time I am honestly not all that surprised. Airline pilots can do some ridiculous shit with those planes.
I live in the suburbs south of Atlanta, so practically every third house here is owned by an airline pilot, including the parents of a couple friends of mine.
A number of years ago, one such friend's dad got some time on one of Delta's 727 simulators and took us up there. He had us landing virtual planes for a while, in the course of which we, being about thirteen years old at the time, discovered a number of ways in which the simulator does not match up with real life, such as the fact that if you nosedive a 727 directly into the ground, the simulator believes that it will respond by bouncing.
However, after we had our fun, he put us in control of the sim conditions and we got to make him land planes in the most horrendous conditions possible. We were trying our damndest to crash him, with no success. It reached the point where we had him land in the middle of what was basically a hurricane, with heavy crosswinds, zero visibility, no instrumentation, an awkward initial angle of approach, and with us randomly turning his engines off and on in a deliberate attempt to make him overcorrect and send him off the side of the runway.
He landed flawlessly, and then turned around and asked us 'what, is that all you're gonna do?'
Apparently those are fairly routine training conditions, at least from time to time or when you've really irritated the evaluator.
My dad's department runs the sims at FedEx, and I got a lot of time in MD-11s when I was little. I asked him about stuff like bouncing (or being able to fly under the Memphis Bridge, even though the wings are longer than the support structures) and his response was that it's such an outlier that it wasn't worth programming in.
Also, landing in Hong Kong is a fucking bitch. Those pilots are crazy.
Apparently he also made some lady (not a pilot, she was there for some publicity thing) puke once (outside the umpteen-million dollar simulator, thankfully,) and supervised the sims when they used 'em for the crash sequence in Cast Away.
There was this one time a hawk went through the leading edge of one our planes. The entire steel-aluminum alloy frame caved in like it was pegged by RPG full of blood.
I wanted to kick the pilot off the stand while shouting "THIS IS EXTRA MAINTENANCE" as she stood there going "Oh, did I do that? Teehee" and taking pictures of the massive damage (She was a blond).
It's really no surprise that a flock of birds took out the plane, though I really doubt the smaller birds fragmented the engines. I'm assuming they clogged the engines if anything. Small birds usually just shatter on impact against most aircraft structures.
Not sure I follow how its ever really the pilot's fault when birds hit the plane. I mean, its not like they're easy to spot and avoid at high speed O_o
I once blazed through a bunch of little brown birds in a Cessna 310 out at Killeen Skylark. We were already pretty close to the go/no-go decision and couldn't avoid them so we just watched a few get chopped in the starboard propellor, waited a heartbeat or two to see if we were fucked, then proceeded normally.
There was this one time a hawk went through the leading edge of one our planes. The entire steel-aluminum alloy frame caved in like it was pegged by RPG full of blood.
I wanted to kick the pilot off the stand while shouting "THIS IS EXTRA MAINTENANCE" as she stood there going "Oh, did I do that? Teehee" and taking pictures of the massive damage (She was a blond).
It's really no surprise that a flock of birds took out the plane, though I really doubt the smaller birds fragmented the engines. I'm assuming they clogged the engines if anything. Small birds usually just shatter on impact against most aircraft structures.
Not sure I follow how its ever really the pilot's fault when birds hit the plane. I mean, its not like they're easy to spot and avoid at high speed O_o
Name the last water landing where people survived in a plane this size. (And not the one from Lovefield in DFW from a few years back because they just ran off the runway.)
To my knowledge this is this is the first successful water landing of a plane that size.
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No. Well, I guess it depends on how you define "successful". Actually, no, it doesn't. Because this isn't the first water landing to have a 100% survival rate. There were two before this.
Apparently, every water landing of a passenger plane has had survivors! The worst survival rate was the one I mentioned in 1996!
Whilst not quite the same thing, I recall, round about the late nineties, an RAF maritime patrol aircraft ditching and everyone getting out safely. Nearly the same size but obviously a vastly smaller crew. Pilot still got major kudos though.
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I wonder how many accountants/PR people/executives in US Airways right now are praising their many gods they had this pilot on board. I imagine, with a downturn in the economy and the state of airlines lately, that a crash with fatalities is something that is probably not needed for an airline at the moment.
I'm from New York originally, and people in NYC's reaction to this seems pretty typical. As far as I can tell, none of my friends out there even noticed.
There was this one time a hawk went through the leading edge of one our planes. The entire steel-aluminum alloy frame caved in like it was pegged by RPG full of blood.
I wanted to kick the pilot off the stand while shouting "THIS IS EXTRA MAINTENANCE" as she stood there going "Oh, did I do that? Teehee" and taking pictures of the massive damage (She was a blond).
It's really no surprise that a flock of birds took out the plane, though I really doubt the smaller birds fragmented the engines. I'm assuming they clogged the engines if anything. Small birds usually just shatter on impact against most aircraft structures.
Not sure I follow how its ever really the pilot's fault when birds hit the plane. I mean, its not like they're easy to spot and avoid at high speed O_o
yeah but
she was a blonde
He was pissed because she was proud of making his job harder. Then he dropped some stereotypes. The source of his frustration is perfectly justified, the expression of it is the problem.
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I'm glad everyone lived. Props to the pilot for some amazing flying and the passangers for not trampling someone on the way out.
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"The Sheriff came on TV and said that birds pose a hazard to aircraft. Funny, I always thought it was the other way around."
There was this one time a hawk went through the leading edge of one our planes. The entire steel-aluminum alloy frame caved in like it was pegged by RPG full of blood.
I wanted to kick the pilot off the stand while shouting "THIS IS EXTRA MAINTENANCE" as she stood there going "Oh, did I do that? Teehee" and taking pictures of the massive damage (She was a blond).
It's really no surprise that a flock of birds took out the plane, though I really doubt the smaller birds fragmented the engines. I'm assuming they clogged the engines if anything. Small birds usually just shatter on impact against most aircraft structures.
This is your hero of the hour:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0115093hero1.html
And this is the worst failure of a Youtube poster in the world:
Tribute In the memories of the victims of airplane crashes A320 in NY Hudson River
...this is what he should have posted instead.
Goose Is Dead -You Gotta Let Him Go
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Anyway, crazy amazing stuff.
I mean, that plane still had to hit the water at nigh 100 mph, with the engine nacelles going under first. It is so, so easy to end up digging in a wing and then ending up with the aircraft in pieces and upside-down. Good job, pilot!
On the one hand, this outcome isn't wholly surprising to me. Commercial pilots are trained, trained, trained, and then trained some more. You have to be pretty much perfect to be one, and you have to prove that you can do a reasonably serviceable landing under horrible conditions (no landing gear, no engines, stalling, you name it). That's one reason air travel is so safe (that, and the planes themselves are usually designed extremely well).
However, these guys went above and beyond. A situation like this with only a few casualties would be considered a damn good job, but zero? And not even that many injuries? It doesn't get much better than that.
It's not their fault. Geese are the dumbest fucking warm-blooded creatures on earth.
What the fuck where they doing up there in January? I'm kickin it in Florida as we speak.
ooh my dad should hear about this
he flies gliders
he'd give this guy the secret glider guy high five
He also runs a consulting firm that deals with aviation safety. Basically, USAir got incredibly lucky and had the absolutely best possible pilot in this situation behind the stick.
Pretty fucking amazing, considering.
I live in the suburbs south of Atlanta, so practically every third house here is owned by an airline pilot, including the parents of a couple friends of mine.
A number of years ago, one such friend's dad got some time on one of Delta's 727 simulators and took us up there. He had us landing virtual planes for a while, in the course of which we, being about thirteen years old at the time, discovered a number of ways in which the simulator does not match up with real life, such as the fact that if you nosedive a 727 directly into the ground, the simulator believes that it will respond by bouncing.
However, after we had our fun, he put us in control of the sim conditions and we got to make him land planes in the most horrendous conditions possible. We were trying our damndest to crash him, with no success. It reached the point where we had him land in the middle of what was basically a hurricane, with heavy crosswinds, zero visibility, no instrumentation, an awkward initial angle of approach, and with us randomly turning his engines off and on in a deliberate attempt to make him overcorrect and send him off the side of the runway.
He landed flawlessly, and then turned around and asked us 'what, is that all you're gonna do?'
Apparently those are fairly routine training conditions, at least from time to time or when you've really irritated the evaluator.
My dad's department runs the sims at FedEx, and I got a lot of time in MD-11s when I was little. I asked him about stuff like bouncing (or being able to fly under the Memphis Bridge, even though the wings are longer than the support structures) and his response was that it's such an outlier that it wasn't worth programming in.
Also, landing in Hong Kong is a fucking bitch. Those pilots are crazy.
Apparently he also made some lady (not a pilot, she was there for some publicity thing) puke once (outside the umpteen-million dollar simulator, thankfully,) and supervised the sims when they used 'em for the crash sequence in Cast Away.
If you're referring to Kai Tak, which had some kind of hellacious and famous approach procedure, I don't think it's open anymore.
Not sure I follow how its ever really the pilot's fault when birds hit the plane. I mean, its not like they're easy to spot and avoid at high speed O_o
Scared the hell out of me.
yeah but
she was a blonde
Whilst not quite the same thing, I recall, round about the late nineties, an RAF maritime patrol aircraft ditching and everyone getting out safely. Nearly the same size but obviously a vastly smaller crew. Pilot still got major kudos though.
As should this one. Hell of a job.
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we're going down. brace for impact.
which is, well, a pretty badass thing to be able to say in one's life.
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Yeah, it's closed. The main approach had pilots doing a crazy turn right before landing.
Wheeeee
And then he double checked the aisles after everyone had gotten off, while the plane was sinking, to make sure nobody got missed.
what a fucking man.
Or are they still shopping the video around to the news networks?
He was pissed because she was proud of making his job harder. Then he dropped some stereotypes. The source of his frustration is perfectly justified, the expression of it is the problem.
Seriously.
I really fucking hope that this dude doesn't get chewed up by the 24 hour news cycle. Too few actual heroes nowadays.
I wonder what will happen when he's on flights in the future.
"Hello everyone, this is Capt. Sullenberger speaking"
The whole cabin just shouts "FUCK YEAH"
they also put up some statistics:
in 2007: 7600 bird strikes
Since 1988 only 288 human deaths from bird strikes on planes.