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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    10. Mario Kart - DS – Nintendo – 1.65 million
    It was released on November 14, 2005 and is still one of the best selling games for 2008.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    Pachter said that 3.25 million Nintendo Wiis, 1.35 million Xbox 360s, and 750,000 PS3s were sold
    WRONG!

    Actually, he was just wrong on the Wii. He was very close with the 360 and PS3.

    The 360 and PS3 were the easiest ones to predict.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Kastanj wrote: »
    Apart from there being more DS than Turkies bought in December, anything deviating a lot from those neat little PA/Neogaf/Pachter predictions?

    Wii is lower than all expected. Supply constrained no doubt.

    Other than that, I guess 360 is about what was expected, PS3 too. No real surprises.

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    DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Kastanj wrote: »
    2150 K Wiis? That probably didn't meet demand. ABER DREI MILLIONEN DS?! Vortex of insanity!

    Look at that top 10 DOOMINATION!

    And look at the PS3...

    No, that's not true..

    THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!

    Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
    For what I don't know, but I couldn't leave the quote unfinished.

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    edited January 2009
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    Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Best Years of all time:
    1. Wii - 2008 - 10,171,000
    2. PS2 - 2002 - 8,420,000
    3. PS2 - 2003 - 6,320,000
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    2008 Totals
    1. Wii - 10,171,000
    2. 360 - 4,807,400
    3. PS3 - 3,544,900

    Lifetime US Sales
    1. Wii - 17,541,000
    2. 360 - 13,958,400
    3. PS3 - 6,790,900

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    CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    10. Mario Kart - DS – Nintendo – 1.65 million
    It was released on November 14, 2005 and is still one of the best selling games for 2008.

    This has to be quoted for note worthy justice.

    That's simply insane.

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    GraviijaGraviija Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Heavily disappointing for Wii. DS takes the single sales month crown though. Must say i'm surprised.

    As expected, PS3 down YoY. I'm still wary of calling it a trend; i'll wait for January numbers. Still, the worst time of the year to do worse than last.
    'Heavily disappointing'? I'd, uh, say the Wii did all right.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Best Years of all time:
    1. Wii - 2008 - 10,171,000
    2. PS2 - 2002 - 8,420,000
    3. PS2 - 2003 - 6,320,000
    _________________
    2008 Totals
    1. Wii - 10,171,000
    2. 360 - 4,807,400
    3. PS3 - 3,544,900

    Lifetime US Sales
    1. Wii - 17,541,000
    2. 360 - 13,958,400
    3. PS3 - 6,790,900

    Dear god the Wii will surpas the 360+PS3 soon.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

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    DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Graviija wrote: »
    Heavily disappointing for Wii. DS takes the single sales month crown though. Must say i'm surprised.

    As expected, PS3 down YoY. I'm still wary of calling it a trend; i'll wait for January numbers. Still, the worst time of the year to do worse than last.
    'Heavily disappointing'? I'd, uh, say the Wii did all right.

    It could have done monumentally better. Make no Mistake, if this is truly a supply issue Nintendo sees this as a failure, and will probably indicate as much in upcoming PR.

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    HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So clearly 2 million is the absolute upper limit of hardware that Nintendo can get onto shelves in a month.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Couscous wrote: »
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

    That Wii, just don't sell games.

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    elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Htown wrote: »
    So clearly 2 million is the absolute upper limit of hardware that Nintendo can get onto shelves in a month.

    Yeah, it means that they sold 0.8 Wiis per second in USA alone.

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    XiaNaphryzXiaNaphryz Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Can't beat that PS2, maybe next year...

    Looks like the DS did it instead.
    Preacher wrote: »
    Best Years of all time:
    1. Wii - 2008 - 10,171,000
    2. PS2 - 2002 - 8,420,000
    3. PS2 - 2003 - 6,320,000
    _________________
    2008 Totals
    1. Wii - 10,171,000
    2. 360 - 4,807,400
    3. PS3 - 3,544,900

    Lifetime US Sales
    1. Wii - 17,541,000
    2. 360 - 13,958,400
    3. PS3 - 6,790,900

    Dear god the Wii will surpas the 360+PS3 soon.

    I think total worldwide sales, it's pretty close if not already there.

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    pslong9pslong9 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So, PS3 in December 2008 is confirmed to be down from December 2007. That's not a good sign.

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    KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    Last time I heard Nintendo were making like six dollars for every Wii sold... I think. That's 12 million bucks of profit right there, and the return on Wii Play and Mario Kart Wii/DS has to be pretty tight as well.

    Does Nintendo make a profit on the DS as well? If so, goddamn.

    I am actually afraid what Nintendo will make if the 180 dollar DSi gets the same numbers...

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    pslong9 wrote: »
    So, PS3 in December 2008 is confirmed to be down from December 2007. That's not a good sign.

    SECRET GAME WILL SAVE THEM!

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Preacher wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

    That Wii, just don't sell games.

    Third-party says what?

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Here is a scary question: Do we really know if the Wii was supply constrained this time around?

    It's an honest question. I haven't gone to a game store or big box retailer recently, so I'm not sure if it's still damn hard to find a Wii. I remember seeing a few back in November, which was understandable because Nintendo made such a big push and there was such high demand. But December?

    If it's merely "Oh yeah, Nintendo didn't ship us enough, it's just like the past few years", then sure, fine. Déjà vu.

    However, if that's not the case ... then we just found the peak for the Wii at that price level. It means, lo and behold, even Nintendo may want to consider a price drop sometime in '09.

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    CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    pslong9 wrote: »
    So, PS3 in December 2008 is confirmed to be down from December 2007. That's not a good sign.

    I can't help but think of this here right now.

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    DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

    That Wii, just don't sell games.

    Third-party says what?

    Ask Activision.

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    elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Third-party says what?

    If this is typical NPD month, only 25 percent of Wii's software sales are made in TOP-20, while over 50 percent of X360's sales are made there.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

    That Wii, just don't sell games.

    Third-party says what?

    Probably sold more outside of the top ten.
    Overall

    "While industry growth has not continued at the blistering pace we saw during the second and third quarters, December's 9% increase over last December brings the year in 19% ahead of last year, and sets a new record for total industry sales."

    "This month marks the first time that industry revenue has topped $5B in any single month. In 1997, annual revenues were $5.1B, and now a single month has realized that level of sales."

    "We get asked a lot why there are so many layoffs and studio closings occuring in the industry when it has just realized another record-breaking year. This is not a case of the rising tide lifting all boats. The increasees are not being enjoyed equally by all manufacturers and publishers."


    Hardware

    "The NDS captures the top-spot for hardware sales this month, marking the first time that any hardware system has sold in excess of 3 million units in any single month."

    "The record for single-month console system sales still belongs to the PS2 which sold 2.7 million units in December 2002."

    "38 months into this generation of hardware, the three new systems have sold a combined 38.2 million units, whereas at the same point last generation, in December 2003, the three systems had sold 36.9 million units. Factoring in the continued strong sales of the PS2 even after the new systems were released, 52 million systems have sold at retail since November '05."


    Software

    "Software sales reached nearly $11B, which is more than total industry revenues were in 2005."

    "While some have wondered if the popularity of Guitar Hero and Rock Band is waning, both properties realized their best month yet in dollar sales, and combined represent 16% of total software dollar sales this month."

    "The variety of content on the top 10 list shows just how viable non-traditional content has become. Not only can these games succeed, they can end up on the top 10 list for the year."

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    plufimplufim Dr Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So current totals for 2008 in the US are Wii Fit on 4.53 million and GTA4 (PS3 and 360) on a total of 5.18 million. With the massive japan sales, I wouldn't be surprised if worldwide, wii fit did outsell GTA4 in 2008, which heralds the end of gaming or something. I just wish I remember who I made that bet with.

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    Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    December Year over Year Change (2008/2007)
    360: +14.29%
    PS3: -9.02%
    Wii: +59.26%

    Full Year over Year Change (2008/2007)
    360: +4.08%
    PS3: +38.58%
    Wii: +61.69%

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    elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    plufim wrote: »
    So current totals for 2008 in the US are Wii Fit on 4.53 million and GTA4 (PS3 and 360) on a total of 5.18 million. With the massive japan sales, I wouldn't be surprised if worldwide, wii fit did outsell GTA4, which heralds the end of gaming or something.

    Both Wii Fit and Mario Kart have already sold more than GTAIV worldwide.

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Here is a scary question: Do we really know if the Wii was supply constrained this time around?

    It's an honest question. I haven't gone to a game store or big box retailer recently, so I'm not sure if it's still damn hard to find a Wii. I remember seeing a few back in November, which was understandable because Nintendo made such a big push and there was such high demand. But December?

    If it's merely "Oh yeah, Nintendo didn't ship us enough, it's just like the past few years", then sure, fine. Déjà vu.

    However, if that's not the case ... then we just found the peak for the Wii at that price level. It means, lo and behold, even Nintendo may want to consider a price drop sometime in '09.

    Most places have reported a lack of Wiis shipped. A lot of people were wondering how the Wii would sell 3 million units despite no place reporting getting more Wiis than in November. Some people thought it had to do with online sales, but I guess it was actually just supply constrained.

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    RakaiRakai Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Here is a scary question: Do we really know if the Wii was supply constrained this time around?

    It's an honest question. I haven't gone to a game store or big box retailer recently, so I'm not sure if it's still damn hard to find a Wii. I remember seeing a few back in November, which was understandable because Nintendo made such a big push and there was such high demand. But December?

    If it's merely "Oh yeah, Nintendo didn't ship us enough, it's just like the past few years", then sure, fine. Déjà vu.

    However, if that's not the case ... then we just found the peak for the Wii at that price level. It means, lo and behold, even Nintendo may want to consider a price drop sometime in '09.

    No online retailer has the Wii in stock at $250 and none lasted more than a few hours during December. In store I can't attest to, but until you can go online and order a Wii at will, they will have yet to ship enough to meet demand.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

    That Wii, just don't sell games.

    Third-party says what?

    nintendo3rdpartysalesay0.jpg

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    Dr Mario KartDr Mario Kart Games Dealer Austin, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    2 months in a row where every non-Nintendo title in the top 10 is in the same genre :|

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    December Year over Year Change (2008/2007)
    360: +14.29%
    PS3: -9.02%
    Wii: +59.26%

    Full Year over Year Change (2008/2007)
    360: +4.08%
    PS3: +38.58%
    Wii: +61.69%
    2007:
    DS 8.430 mil
    PSP 3.823 mil
    360 4.618 mil
    PS3 2.555 mil
    Wii 6.289 mil

    2008:
    DS 9.951 mil
    PSP 3.829 mil
    360 4.735 mil
    PS3 3.544 mil
    Wii 10.171 mil
    360 sales look fairly stagnate. Was there a price drop or something last year?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    plufim wrote: »
    So current totals for 2008 in the US are Wii Fit on 4.53 million and GTA4 (PS3 and 360) on a total of 5.18 million. With the massive japan sales, I wouldn't be surprised if worldwide, wii fit did outsell GTA4 in 2008, which heralds the end of gaming or something. I just wish I remember who I made that bet with.

    Well I dunno about the end of gaming but the one game I consistently play is Wii Fit.

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    HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Here is a scary question: Do we really know if the Wii was supply constrained this time around?

    It's an honest question. I haven't gone to a game store or big box retailer recently, so I'm not sure if it's still damn hard to find a Wii. I remember seeing a few back in November, which was understandable because Nintendo made such a big push and there was such high demand. But December?

    If it's merely "Oh yeah, Nintendo didn't ship us enough, it's just like the past few years", then sure, fine. Déjà vu.

    However, if that's not the case ... then we just found the peak for the Wii at that price level. It means, lo and behold, even Nintendo may want to consider a price drop sometime in '09.

    Anecdotally, I'm gonna say yeah it was a supply deal. We (Fry's) were sold out of Wiis AND DSes post-Christmas until a couple days ago. Sold out of Mario Kart and some other Wii stuff, too.

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    DeaconKnowledgeDeaconKnowledge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Here is a scary question: Do we really know if the Wii was supply constrained this time around?

    It's an honest question. I haven't gone to a game store or big box retailer recently, so I'm not sure if it's still damn hard to find a Wii. I remember seeing a few back in November, which was understandable because Nintendo made such a big push and there was such high demand. But December?

    If it's merely "Oh yeah, Nintendo didn't ship us enough, it's just like the past few years", then sure, fine. Déjà vu.

    However, if that's not the case ... then we just found the peak for the Wii at that price level. It means, lo and behold, even Nintendo may want to consider a price drop sometime in '09.

    While I do admit this is a possibility, I would suggest that the Wii supply is tapped out after selling an unprecedented 4 million systems in 2 months.

    I would also suggest that at this time, the above is the far more likely scenario.

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    JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

    That Wii, just don't sell games.

    Third-party says what?

    nintendo3rdpartysalesay0.jpg

    Wait, I'm confused about this graph. Obviously the consoles didn't release at the same time. Is one of those "launch aligned" graphs? (Ugh) If so, I'm curious what the 3rd party sales for the 360 are now, because that's the economic condition now, not some theoretical universe where all three consoles released at the same time.

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    The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    darleysam wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Couscous wrote: »
    Some quick addition,
    Wii software sales in the top ten: 4.79 million, 3.33 million without Wii Play
    360: 2.71 million

    That Wii, just don't sell games.

    Third-party says what?

    nintendo3rdpartysalesay0.jpg

    This graph is like 'How to say nothing with charts 101'

    It provides no indication on average sales, or highest sales or anything else. It is simply total. Which means so little.

    It also doesn't speak at all about quality, or anything really.

    The other point is that the PS3 and the 360 are not separate for the vast majority of games. Meaning you combine both of their lines and it is higher than the Wii line. Much higher.

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    elkataselkatas Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    The other point is that the PS3 and the 360 are not separate for the vast majority of games. Meaning you combine both of their lines and it is higher than the Wii line. Much higher.

    Retarded spin ahoy!

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    JCRooks wrote: »
    Wait, I'm confused about this graph. Obviously the consoles didn't release at the same time. Is one of those "launch aligned" graphs? (Ugh) If so, I'm curious what the 3rd party sales for the 360 are now, because that's the economic condition now, not some theoretical universe where all three consoles released at the same time.
    Oh that's not brand new data, it's from this page. However I would be surprised if Nintendo is somehow magically immune from economic conditions in a way that would see third party sales decrease even as their own games rocket upward.

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    darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    2 months in a row where every non-Nintendo title in the top 10 is in the same genre :|

    Wait what? Guitar Hero's an FPS? Gears of War is too?

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