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I'm odd when I drink

Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
edited February 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm kinda wondering what's been going on with me lately. Anytime I drink I seem to just, well, get out of hand anymore.

Lets see, I used to drink a lot. Well, like, every weekend with friends. We'd throw back around 10-12 beers apiece, play drinking games, have fun. I'd get drunk, but I'd always remember what happened the next morning. And when I drank, I always felt in control of what I was doing.

But then I moved away. I'm now living with a different set of friends. And once I moved, I kinda settled down on the drinking. Instead of once a week, it was more along the lines of one every two weeks, then once a month, or once a month and a half.

And now it seems like every time I drink I, well, get drunk really fast and um... make an ass out of myself. Whether it's me going around kissing dudes, yelling at people, dropping my pants, or just being weird, I've turned into a crazy drunk person. Plus, after a certain point I always, almost always, black out for part of the night (as in, large chunks of the night I don't remember). And, well, I'm not sure what's going on with it. Because I'm not drinking more than I used to, or faster than I used to.

It's just becoming a slight problem. I'm not sure if my tolerance has just gone down (while my pace hasn't) or what, but I just can't keep having these blackout out of control sessions. But I also like drinking (or well, the way drinking used to be for me). So, I mean, should I start drinking more often? Is that just a crazy thought? Would it be horrible if I started drinking once a week or every other week again?

I didn't slow down because I dislike drinking or for fear of alcoholism, just because I drink usually in social situations. I mean, I'm 24, would it be bad if I drank more often to get my tolerance back up to a point where I was no longer making an ass out of myself while at parties?

No I don't.
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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    So, you are getting stupid drunk and blacking out, and apparently your solution is to get drunk more often?

    How about maybe drink less?

    Don't think it's rocket science or anything.

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  • exisexis Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If your tolerance is lower, why don't you just drink less?

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  • Grid SystemGrid System Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Are you taking any prescription medication, particularly any that you weren't taking before?

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You don't drink as much anymore, which is probably a good thing for your health (and wallet). Just don't drink as much when you are with friends. Find that level that you used to be comfortable at.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    IIRC you had an H/A thread some time back regarding depression.

    Antidepressants have been known to reduce some peoples' alcohol tolerance. Doesn't happen to everybody, but it can happen.

    Seriously, though, just drink less.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    No prescription medications anymore. No depression anymore either. So, well, it must just be my tolerance being lower.

    The reason I'm thinking about drinking more often (not more, just more often) is because I have the disposable income to do so now. I used to casually drink a beer or two after getting off of work. I cut that out because of financial reasons.

    I dunno, I just find it really hard to find that right pace at a party anymore. You know, the pace where you drink fast enough to get drunk, but slow enough to know when to cut yourself off. I drink at the pace I used to, and then end up way past the point of being able to cut myself off.

    Blah, this was probably too stupid a topic to post about.

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Blah, this was probably too stupid a topic to post about.

    No, there are no stupid questions. (Well, actually, there are, but never mind that for now.)

    However, your idea of drinking more often just to build up a tolerance was kind of dumb.

    Just be more careful while drinking.

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  • MoSiAcMoSiAc Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Are you usually just drinking beer, or throwing a lot in the mix? I know I have a drink and sometimes when I am out with people they like to throw their "favorite drink" at me which is usually not at all what I am having and this can turn me into quite a hand full but I usually keep it to some level of control. I have found that if I creatively say I don't want any and stick with what I am drinking i am good to go.

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If you have a friend that you can trust, let him know to remind you to stop once you get to a certain point.

    I don't drink and never have, so this information may or may not work in the slightest.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    exis wrote: »
    If your tolerance is lower, why don't you just drink less?

    This.

    Drink less and you'll stop making an ass of yourself.

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  • Kate of LokysKate of Lokys Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Everybody's limits change over time. When I was six years old, I could eat eight of my mother's big Sunday morning pancakes in one sitting and clamour for more; now, I'm full after two. When you were 18 years old, you could probably drink a six-pack without getting so much as the slightest buzz, bench press three times your weight in black tar heroin, and fuck supermodels for three hours with a thirty second refractory period between each one. But I'm not eight anymore, and you're not 18. (Unless you are 18, but if that's the case, you have bigger problems to worry about, like the fact that you shouldn't be drinking at all).

    Unless the timespan between your old party-'till-you-puke days and your new party-'till-you-black-out days is measured in weeks, your decreased tolerance is probably just a result of you being that much older. You're not 18 anymore, and your body is telling you "Hey, whoa, I can't keep this shit up forever."

    Listen to your body. Stop drinking to the point of insensibility. There are serious health problems associated with chronic alcohol abuse - and you are abusing it if you're blacking out every night after two hours of playing gay chicken against unwitting opponents - and while most people make it through their brief collegiate period of drunken debauchery without suffering any lasting damage, you can't keep pouring gallons of beer into your body and expecting to wake up with minty-fresh breath and delightful memories of a fun-filled frolic the night before.

    And increasing your alcohol intake just because you can afford it financially is a dumb, dumb idea. If you can afford to literally piss away $10 per day without feeling any financial strain, why don't you take that $10, dump it in a savings account, and buy yourself something that lasts longer than 15 minutes? In three weeks, you could get a new XBox 360. In one week, you could take your significant other out to a classy meal. In one day, you could buy a book. Stop drinking your money, and start putting it towards something useful.

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  • KrikeeKrikee Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Blacking out stems from your BA content rising too fast; couple that with your reduced tolerance and you should really slow down like everyone has said.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Forget the tolerance thing (not that it's unimportant) -- if you don't like yourself when you drink to the quantity that you do, drink less. Alcohol doesn't make you go crazy nuts, it just lowers your inhibitions. If anything, I'd say that the fact that less alcohol makes you act out socially means that there's something fishy about your newer social interactions.

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  • Sol InvictusSol Invictus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You could... I don't know... drink less?

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Gauge how much you drink by how you feel, rather than how much you think you should be able to handle.

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  • PongePonge Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Drink a glass of water between each beer. It'll fill you up quicker so you reach that 'Oh my god my stomach is so full I can't possibly drink another beer' moment sooner in the night, and it should help reduce your hangover in the morning.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Well, I just recognized that this has been going on for the past few months recently (after new years). Haven't really drank in a party situation since then... so now that I know my tolerance has lowered I can keep a better eye on myself. I had no idea that the blacking out was caused by the speed of the BAC rising instead of the amount it rose. That would explain why when I'd get really really drunk at the height of my drinking I'd still remember everything. And why now I usually don't remember the last 2-3 hours of the night.

    The real problem has been me getting to that level of being drunk where I'll drink just about anything I can get my hands on. It used to take at least 12 beers in a 3-4 hour period for that to happen before, now it takes like... 7.

    Even though I do think I may start drinking more anyways, just because people at work are all the sudden asking me to go out to bars with them and such (finally). Which, again, is reason for me to be concerned about this. It's one thing to make an ass out of myself with my friends, but with my coworkers? Much rather avoid that.

    Edit:

    That's a great idea ponge! I'll have to try that out next time I drink.

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    hey man, I'm 26 and when I drink I go nuts. I drink roughly once every 2 weeks and it takes me 5 or so shots to get me silly, 6 to get me shit faced. I've always had low tolerance and it's cool with me. less to spend on it in the long run.

    tone it down though if you're blacking out. your tolerance went down because you drink less often (which I'm sure you know). scale back accordingly and you'll be fine. There's seriously no reason to want to drink more simply for the fact that you can drink more. If it takes you less to get drunk, good! you'll spend less on the stuff and you'll sober up faster.

    I go nuts too at parties. Shit there were times where 2 girls and another dude + myself had a streak off in this apartment complex last year. it was during a time of night where there was relatively high traffic and we wanted to see who'd actually do it. well, we all did it and we now have a very embarresing but very funny memory.

    Just tone it down. The last thing you want is a blackout. I know people who blackout every time and it's not fun to be around nor is it fun to be that person.

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  • CryogenCryogen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    When i was about your age i went through a similar thing (minus the blacking out, never had that). In the long term, i've pretty much stopped drinking completely. I'll have a beer/glass of wine once every few months, drink it really slowly, and stop after 1 or two regardless. I cant actually think of the last time i was 'drunk'. I didnt like the person i started to become after heavy drinking, and now that doesnt happen. It works for me.

    In the short term, i pretty much did what Ponge suggests with the alternating beer/water.

    I certainly dont agree with the idea of taking up heavy and frequent drinking so your body 'gets used to it'. That kind of drinking isnt very good for you. Also beer is pretty fattening, but i've got no idea if thats a problem for you or not. But of course, thats your prerogative.

    It reminds me of a saying though, especially with your history of depression: "I drank to drown my sorrows, but what nobody told me is that sorrows float"

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If you are mainly a beer drinker, change to a strong tasting mid strength or light beer. It will force you to slow down. Combine this with what Ponge said and you should be good.

    Also, there are some light/mid beers out there that taste amazing.

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    hah, you could go with Guiness and I guarentee you'd never be able to reach 7, those things feel like you're drinking a steak.

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  • PojacoPojaco Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    What altitude are you living at now? Did you move to the Alps? Andes? That'll do it

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  • EskimoDaveEskimoDave Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    hah, you could go with Guiness and I guarentee you'd never be able to reach 7, those things feel like you're drinking a steak.

    And Guinness isn't all that filling for a stout either.

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    yeah there's this stuff a coworker told me about a couple years ago. I forget what it's called, but it's like super crazy heavy. Immortal? or something odd like that. Wish I could remember the name, he was going on and on about it like it was the crowning achievement of beer and I kinda wanna give it a try.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Pojaco wrote: »
    What altitude are you living at now? Did you move to the Alps? Andes? That'll do it


    It's just a change of 300 feet, so I'm not sure if that'd do it or not.

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  • NotYouNotYou Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It's important to experiment with alcohol and find that perfect speed of drinking that keeps you in a good mood and doesnt give you a hangover. Everyone is different. For most people, this means slowly sipping at your drink throughout the night. You need to experiment with discipline until you find whats right for you.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Dont worry about it. At least you've realised - just slow down. There's nothing worse than being that guy and being completely oblivious to it.

    Just dont get drawn into the whole "how many can you down" thing.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Really the thing that actually pisses me off about it is the "I can't remember shit" part. Just makes it so I'm like... what was the point of drinking, or of having a party? Also makes it so (since I do act without inhibition) I have to piece together the parts I don't remember.

    And then I do things like buy rounds for everyone besides this one girl who I don't exactly get along with. You know, small dickish things that if I do I really do need to remember.

    But yeah, good advice everyone. I'll just try to cool it down when I drink. No reason to limit the frequency (or increase the frequency). I just need to pay more attention and not do my usual "it's drinking time, lets down 3 beers in 20 minutes!" thing.

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  • QinguQingu Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You might consider telling these friends you hang out with.

    "Hey dudes. I'm kind of concerned that I drink too much when we hang out. Can you guys cut me off after X drinks?"

    Also, you could try switching your drug of choice to marijuana. No blackouts or dropping pants involved at all!

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  • DarkSymphonyDarkSymphony Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    oh and for gods sake, definitely do not black out or get that fucked up at a bar. the people will not tolerate that for more than 8 seconds. I had a friend get fucked up like that and after being in a bar for about 10 minutes, people complained and he earned some strong ire from people he knew in there as well as the people working there.

    if you go out drinking at a bar, do 3-4 shots (or 3-4 beers) and just see how you feel. if you're buzzed, go for 1-2 more and stop. asking the people you go with "hey, guys, wanna make sure I stop at X drinks" is a very easy thing to ask and will get you what you want. If these people are people that are worth drinking and hanging out with, they'll happily agree to do it.

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  • acidlacedpenguinacidlacedpenguin Institutionalized Safe in jail.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    just once ask a friend to prepare drinks for you and keep track of what you drink. Then have them cut you off if you're starting to get retarded.

    Phone them up the next day and ask for a tally. Next time you buy alcohol, only buy that much alcohol.

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  • SmurphSmurph Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If drinking 7 beers leads to you making an ass out of yourself and loosing control, try to cap it at five. Don't try to drink more or less often to try to change your tolerance. Just drink normally but do 2 less beers than you are currently drinking to get drunk. If you can't limit yourself like that then drinking way less often is probably a good idea, just so you break your drinking habits.

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I had a similar experience recently. Periods of the evening no longer exist in my memory, and I'm pretty sure I became an aggressive ass to some strangers, which is completely unlike me. My solution was to chill the fuck out on the drinking for a while. Also, when I do go out, not to drink a bottle and a half of fucking champagne beforehand :| A friend of mine gets angry and destructive if he drinks red wine. So he avoids it and all is good. Think about changing your drinks up a little.

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  • MrMonroeMrMonroe passed out on the floor nowRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'm not sure if my tolerance has just gone down (while my pace hasn't)

    /thread

    You're drinking less frequently, which means your body isn't used to it. Get used to pacing yourself and you'll be fine.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Tolerance can drop with age and possibly other issues too. That happened with me, and despite the fact that I drink regularly (London has a big pub culture), more so than I have for 4-5 years prior to that, my tolerance has not improved back to what it was say 5 years ago.

    So I don't think it ever will, perhaps it isn't always possible to restore early adult tolerance

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Switch to mixed drinks, bring your fave liquor and mix.

    1) When people are going crazy town on beer, you can now watch and congratulate without the heightened expectation of joining in. You can always always grab a brew if you want, but you dont have to, and generally no one's going to bug you about it.

    2) You can control how much youre drinking by controlling the proportions. Wanna blast off? Pour heavy. Need to effing chill? Pour light, a dash for flavour and not much else.

    3) few people will chuck you a brew with expectations of guzzling if you already have a drink in your hand.

    4) the ever present drink suggests that your drinking, wooo. So do refills. So does being generous with the liquor of the day. Just because you pour somebody a few fingers doesn't mean you have to 'keep up'- its thier drink, let them worry about it.

    5) Be aware of why you are drinking. To socialize? Sweet. But if somehow you've been caught into a trap of thinking drink=fun, and your crowd just isn't as much fun as a different one, you just might find yourself getting fuckwasted to make up for the difference. People are fun, drinking is just drinking.

    6) Bring something you can swallow, but dont really care for. Its amazing how far that pint will stretch when youre wincing. Be aware that fucking tasty beverages have this tendancy of creeping up on you- you drink because you like it, youre thirsty because youve been drinking, you gladly quench with more beverage, and so on until your puking so hard you taste breastmilk.

    Alchohol effects your judgement (omg,rlly?) so preplan a bit while your sober and hopefully you can make unpleasent situations less likely.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Well, first party since this thread, and everything went cool.

    I measured out my drinks (1 1/2 shot of Jerry's to one glass of coke) and drank slowly. Surprisingly enough (to me) no one cared/noticed and I didn't get drunk enough to get sick/make an ass out of myself. I just got drunk enough where beating portal in under an hour seems like a challenge. Not drunk enough where I yell at everyone then pass out after chugging half a bottle of tequila. And I'm sure I'll remember all of tonight tomorrow.

    So good job guys. I think you just saved me some money/some embarrassment.

    With this and the various other threads I've posted since I've moved up to Wisconsin, I'd have to say that if I do go back to school this year it'd be with the help of you guys. You've really helped me in the past year. I've gone through some bullshit, and I've acted a fool, but the PA forums have been there to help me out. I appreciate it. Very much. So thank you.

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Sometimes it feels awesome to stay mostly ;) in control.

    Good work man.

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  • NPNP Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm also in my 20s and I have had the same exact problem with decreased tolerance from the college days, and, well, it's pretty simple, we're not binge drinking college students anymore. If you don't have alcohol as often, you're not going to be able to tolerate as much, it's pretty much as simple as that.

    Also, there is one thing that may be different in your "adult" lifestyle, and that's sleep. When I was a college student, my sleep schedule was all sorts of fucked up, I would take naps everyday, sleep all day on weekends, etc. So basically when I was getting drunk on Friday and Saturday nights I probably had just recently woken up from a nap.

    Now that I'm a "responsible" adult with a day job, I pretty much have a normal sleeping schedule, you know, I sleep for 7.5-8.5 hrs every night, go to work for 9 hours, and almost never take a nap. That means that when I go drinking on Friday night, it is always after I have been awake since the very early morning, and after a very long day of work/work related stress, so if you factor in the extra tiredness, it's pretty obvious that I'd get drunk/buzzed much faster as my body isn't in top form.

    Plus, you probably went to the gym (or at least walked) more often when you were in college, if you're anything like me. All these probably contribute to a slightly higher alcohol tolerance.

    In any case, sometimes I enjoy getting buzzed after just a few drinks, and if there's a party where I know I'm gonna get trashed (I try to minimize those nowadays), then I'll usually head home and rest for a little bit after work before heading out.

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