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Ain Soph
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After reading this story here http://www.theage.com.au/national/digger-awarded-victoria-cross-for-heroic-gallantry-20090116-7inm.html and reading about the SAS from other sources, this sounds pretty typical of their work. But it got me wondering "What other awesome Special Forces units are out there?"
After looking them up, I decided to put each up to a vote for THE MOST BADASS MILITARY SPECIAL FORCES UNIT ON EARTH
So here are the contenders:
Here's the Original Special Air Service
The elite special forces unit of those British chaps are, according to Wikipedia "The Special Air Service (SAS) is a special forces regiment within the British Army which has served as a model for the special forces of other countries[2][3]. The SAS forms a significant section of United Kingdom Special Forces alongside the Special Boat Service (SBS), Special Reconnaissance Regiment (SRR), and the Special Forces Support Group (SFSG).
The Special Air Service is divided into two distinct parts:
22 Regiment Special Air Service, the regular regiment of the SAS, which is the unit associated with most well-known SAS operations.
Two Territorial Army units, 21 Regiment Special Air Service (Artists) and 23 Regiment Special Air Service."
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service
And their cousin from down under, the Australian Special Air Service Regiment
And the cousin's friend who always tags along with him, the New Zealand Special Air Service
I didn't lump the SAS from each country together, because while they're similar in name, training, and in tactics they are individual organizations independent of one another and belonging to each to their respective countries.
So Now lets move across the channel to France, where we have:
The cheese eating GIGN
From wiki: The National Gendarmerie Intervention Group, commonly abbreviated GIGN (French: Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale), is the French Gendarmerie's elite counter-terrorism and hostage rescue unit; it is part of the military force, not the police. It is composed of 380 men, including 11 commissioned officers.[citation needed]
Its missions include the arrest of armed criminals, in particular those taking hostages, counter-terrorism and dealing with airplane hijacking, and prevention of mutiny in prisons.
GIGN headquarters are in Satory, west of Paris.[1] Along with the EPIGN and the GSPR it forms the GSIGN (Groupement de Sécurité et d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale, Grouping of Security and Intervention of the National Gendarmerie), part of the subdivision Mobile Gendarmerie.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGN
And then off to the Netherlands where we have:
Those Bob Marley loving Dutch Korps Commandotroepen
From Wiki: The Korps Commandotroepen (KCT) are the elite special forces of the Royal Netherlands Army. It is one of the two principal units tasked with special operations in the Netherlands (the other being the Maritime Special Operations Company (MSO-CIE) of the Dutch Marine Corps), and it is deployable anywhere in the world under any circumstance, conducting all conceivable missions from the full spectrum of special operations, including counter-terrorism overseas.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korps_Commandotroepen
And then we fly to Spain for:
the SAS inspired and bull testicle chomping Grupo Operaciones Especiales
And next we move on over to Israel:
Another SAS inspired group (it's almost cliche'd now) the Sayeret Matkal
From wiki: Sayeret Matkal (Hebrew: סיירת מטכ"ל, translation: General Staff Reconnaissance Unit) is the main special forces unit of the Israeli Defence Force (IDF). Its main roles are counter-terrorism, deep reconnaissance and intelligence gathering, but the unit is first and foremost a field intelligence-gathering unit, used to obtain strategic intelligence behind enemy lines. Sayeret Matkal is also in charge of hostage rescue missions outside Israeli borders. The unit is modeled on the British SAS[1], and organizationally reports to the Directorate of Military Intelligence. Its IDF nickname is simply "The Unit". The unit's motto is "Who Dares Wins."
The unit is best known for Operation Thunderbolt, commonly known as Operation Entebbe, in which it rescued more than 100 Air France airline passengers hijacked and flown to Uganda by PLO terrorists, losing only the assault element commander, Yonatan Netanyahu, to enemy gunfire. Three hostages were also killed.[2]
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matkal
And now we skip across the pond to the United states where we have:
Chuck Norris and his Delta Force
From wiki: The 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D) — commonly known as Delta in the U.S. Army, Delta Force by civilians — is a Special Operations Force (SOF).
Delta Force's primary tasks are counterterrorism, counterinsurgency and national intervention operations, although it is an extremely versatile group capable of assuming many covert missions, including, but not limited to, rescuing hostages, raids, and eliminating covert enemy forces. Delta Force conducts missions similar to those attributed to the British Special Air Service (SAS), on which it was originally modeled.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force
The crazy roaming Army Rangers
From wiki: The United States Army Rangers or simply Army Rangers are specialized, elite American light infantry special operations forces capable of conducting direct action operations.
US Army Rangers draw strongly on the heritage, traditions and ethos of Rogers' Rangers but have no lineage back to that unit. The current US Army Rangers, the 75th Ranger Regiment, were originally raised for the Korean War. The modern rangers can only trace their lineage directly back to the Korean War and to the ranger training course which has existed continuously since World War II.
American light infantry units called rangers were raised for, and disbanded after, the French and Indian Wars, the American Revolution (for both sides), the American Civil War (for both sides) and World War II.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Rangers
The deep diving Otariidae Navy Seals
From Wiki: The United States Navy Sea, Air and Land Forces, commonly known as the Navy SEALs, are the Special Operations Forces of the United States Navy, employed in direct action and special reconnaissance operations. SEALs are also capable of employing unconventional warfare, foreign internal defense, and counter-terrorism missions.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_seals
Dashing to Germany:
Ja mein freunde it's Kommando Spezialkräfte
From Wiki: The Kommando Spezialkräfte (Special Forces Command, KSK) is part of Germany's Special Forces. Organized under the Special Operations Division (Div. Spezielle Operationen, DSO), it is closely modeled on the British Special Air Service (SAS).
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommando_Spezialkräfte
Lets trot down the steppes to Russia:
With love, it's SPETSNAZ
From wiki:Russian special purpose regiments or Spetsnaz, Specnaz (Russian: Войска специального назначения, (спецназ) tr: Voyska spetsialnovo naznacheniya, pronounced [spʲetsnaz]) is a general term for "special forces" in Russian, literally "special purpose units". These Russian special forces can specifically refer to any élite or special purpose units under subordination of the Federal Security Service (FSB) or Internal Troops of Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the units controlled by the military intelligence service GRU.
Currently, the term is used as well to describe any special purpose units or task forces of other ministries (even the Emergency Situations Ministry special rescue unit) [1] Foreign special forces are also commonly referred to as Spetsnaz on Russian television, for example "American Spetsnaz." Spetsnaz has trained the Republican guard of Syria, Iraq and Iran and they have been involved in training other special forces units across the world. Strictly speaking, all Spetsnaz units operated by the KGB/FSB were called OSNAZ, an acronym for [voiska] osobogo naznacheniya or "special purpose [detachments]".
These internal troop units originally were raised for internal use against counter-revolutionaries and other undesirables. There has always been a certain amount of shifting of personnel and units between both the GRU who control SPETSNAZ and the MVD with OSNAZ MVD and OSNAZ KGB or FSB, especially between the latter two. Today, OSNAZ is a term mainly used in connection with GRU-controlled COMINT, ELINT and radio-surveillance units within the Armed Forces. Spetsnaz carry out reconnaissance and social warfare missions in "peacetime" as well as in war. According to Vladimir Rezun, a GRU defector who used the pseudonym "Viktor Suvorov", there were 20 Spetsnaz brigades plus 41 separate companies. Thus, total strength of Spetsnaz forces is around 30,000 troops.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spetsnaz
And now north across the border to the great white north of Canada:
Where we learn aboot Joint Task Force 2
From wiki: Joint Task Force 2 (JTF2) was formed on April 1, 1993 and is the Canadian Forces unit responsible for federal counter-terrorist operations. Its mission is to provide a unit capable of rendering armed assistance in the resolution of an incident that is affecting, or has the potential to affect, the national interest. JTF2 is subordinate to the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command and, along with the Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR), forms the core of Canada's special operations forces.
While the unit has a primary focus on counter-terrorism, its roles have expanded over the years and it has likely assumed roles similar to that of other allied SOF units such as the British Special Air Service (SAS) and the United States Delta Force.
The Canadian government has been very secretive about releasing any information about the capabilities, organization and operational missions of the unit. However, some information has appeared. In 2002, author David Pugliese published a book, "Canada's Secret Commandos: The Unauthorized Story of Joint Task Force Two". This is the first book to examine JTF2 seriously. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) has a web page with information on the unit.[1]. In 2008, Denis Morrisett, a former member of JTF2 published a book about JTF2, named Nous étions invincibles.
Recently, the Canadian Forces (CF) has created a website[2] dedicated to JTF2, which contains more information on the selection and training process. Most of the following information is derived from that website.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Task_Force_2
And finally we arrive in Nepal:
With the Kukri wielding Gurkha
From wiki: Gurkha, also spelled as Gorkha, are people from Nepal and parts of northern India, who take their name from the eighth century Hindu warrior-saint Guru Gorakhnath.[1] His disciple Bappa Rawal, born Prince Kalbhoj/Prince Shailadhish, founded the house of Mewar, Rajasthan (Rajputana). Later descendants of Bappa Rawal moved further east to found the house of Gorkha, which in turn founded the Kingdom of Nepal.[2] Gorkha is one of the 75 districts of modern Nepal.
Gurkhas are best known for their history of bravery and strength in the British Army's Brigade of Gurkhas and the Indian Army's Gorkha regiments. The Gurkhas were designated by British officials as a "Martial Race". "Martial Race" was a designation created by officials of British India to describe "races" (peoples) that were thought to be naturally warlike and aggressive in battle, and to possess qualities like courage, loyalty, self sufficiency, physical strength, resilience, orderliness, the ability to work hard for long periods of time, fighting tenacity and military strategy. The British recruited heavily from these Martial Races for service in the colonial army.[3]
article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha
So of these groups of people who kick the crap out of other people, who kicks the most...uh...crap? Why?
If I've forgotten any that you feel are actual contenders, contact your local Ain Soph© complaint department, and I'll add them as soon as possible.
Votes:
NZ SAS: 1
SAS: 4
Sayeret Matkal: 1
Spetsnaz: 4
Delta Force: 4
SEALs: 1
Gurkha: 1
Rangers: 1
JTF-2: 2
After looking them up, I decided to put each up to a vote for THE MOST BADASS MILITARY SPECIAL FORCES UNIT ON EARTH
So here are the contenders:
Here's the Original Special Air Service
The elite special forces unit of those British chaps are, according to Wikipedia "The Special Air Service (SAS) is a special forces regiment within the British Army which has served as a model for the special forces of other countries[2][3]. The SAS forms a significant section of United Kingdom Special Forces alongside the Special Boat Service (SBS), Special Reconnaissance Regiment (SRR), and the Special Forces Support Group (SFSG).
The Special Air Service is divided into two distinct parts:
22 Regiment Special Air Service, the regular regiment of the SAS, which is the unit associated with most well-known SAS operations.
Two Territorial Army units, 21 Regiment Special Air Service (Artists) and 23 Regiment Special Air Service."
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Air_Service
And their cousin from down under, the Australian Special Air Service Regiment
From their Wiki: "The Special Air Service Regiment (SASR) is a Special Forces regiment modelled on the original British SAS and also drawing on the traditions of the Australian World War II 'Z' Special Force commando unit, as well as the Independent Companies which were active in the South Pacific during the same period. It is based at Campbell Barracks, Swanbourne, Perth, Western Australia and is a unit of the Royal Australian Infantry Corps, part of the Australian Defence Force. As with the British SAS, the regimental motto is 'Who dares wins'."
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Special_Air_Service_Regiment
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Special_Air_Service_Regiment
And the cousin's friend who always tags along with him, the New Zealand Special Air Service
From wiki: The New Zealand Special Air Service (NZ SAS) was formed on July 7, 1955 and is a New Zealand Army Special Forces unit which was modeled on the British Special Air Service (SAS).
The New Zealand Government states that NZ SAS is the "premier combat unit of the New Zealand Defence Force", is based in Auckland, and has the motto “who dares wins”.
The elite unit is "capable of undertaking unconventional warfare". Its key roles are to undertake overseas missions and respond to domestic terrorist attacks.
The New Zealand SAS is held in high regard internationally - as demonstrated by the United States Presidential Citation which was awarded to the NZSAS on 7 December 2004.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Special_Air_Service
The New Zealand Government states that NZ SAS is the "premier combat unit of the New Zealand Defence Force", is based in Auckland, and has the motto “who dares wins”.
The elite unit is "capable of undertaking unconventional warfare". Its key roles are to undertake overseas missions and respond to domestic terrorist attacks.
The New Zealand SAS is held in high regard internationally - as demonstrated by the United States Presidential Citation which was awarded to the NZSAS on 7 December 2004.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Special_Air_Service
I didn't lump the SAS from each country together, because while they're similar in name, training, and in tactics they are individual organizations independent of one another and belonging to each to their respective countries.
So Now lets move across the channel to France, where we have:
The cheese eating GIGN
From wiki: The National Gendarmerie Intervention Group, commonly abbreviated GIGN (French: Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale), is the French Gendarmerie's elite counter-terrorism and hostage rescue unit; it is part of the military force, not the police. It is composed of 380 men, including 11 commissioned officers.[citation needed]
Its missions include the arrest of armed criminals, in particular those taking hostages, counter-terrorism and dealing with airplane hijacking, and prevention of mutiny in prisons.
GIGN headquarters are in Satory, west of Paris.[1] Along with the EPIGN and the GSPR it forms the GSIGN (Groupement de Sécurité et d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale, Grouping of Security and Intervention of the National Gendarmerie), part of the subdivision Mobile Gendarmerie.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGN
And then off to the Netherlands where we have:
Those Bob Marley loving Dutch Korps Commandotroepen
From Wiki: The Korps Commandotroepen (KCT) are the elite special forces of the Royal Netherlands Army. It is one of the two principal units tasked with special operations in the Netherlands (the other being the Maritime Special Operations Company (MSO-CIE) of the Dutch Marine Corps), and it is deployable anywhere in the world under any circumstance, conducting all conceivable missions from the full spectrum of special operations, including counter-terrorism overseas.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korps_Commandotroepen
And then we fly to Spain for:
the SAS inspired and bull testicle chomping Grupo Operaciones Especiales
From worldwide-military.com: The GOE-11 is a Spanish special forces unit and found his foundation in 1978. In a emergency-phase the unit can be operational within 30 minutes.
The GOE-11 is just like other units based on the British SAS. De GOE-11 has been trained for some missions like:
-mountain combats, desert combats
-air-drops
-HAHO
-resque of hostages
-anti-hijack operations
-sniper
-actions behind enemy lines
The unit is supported by the GOE-111 and GOE-1V reserve units.
Article: http://www.worldwide-military.com/Special%20Forces/Spanje_Algemene_Info_english.htm
The GOE-11 is just like other units based on the British SAS. De GOE-11 has been trained for some missions like:
-mountain combats, desert combats
-air-drops
-HAHO
-resque of hostages
-anti-hijack operations
-sniper
-actions behind enemy lines
The unit is supported by the GOE-111 and GOE-1V reserve units.
Article: http://www.worldwide-military.com/Special%20Forces/Spanje_Algemene_Info_english.htm
And next we move on over to Israel:
Another SAS inspired group (it's almost cliche'd now) the Sayeret Matkal
From wiki: Sayeret Matkal (Hebrew: סיירת מטכ"ל, translation: General Staff Reconnaissance Unit) is the main special forces unit of the Israeli Defence Force (IDF). Its main roles are counter-terrorism, deep reconnaissance and intelligence gathering, but the unit is first and foremost a field intelligence-gathering unit, used to obtain strategic intelligence behind enemy lines. Sayeret Matkal is also in charge of hostage rescue missions outside Israeli borders. The unit is modeled on the British SAS[1], and organizationally reports to the Directorate of Military Intelligence. Its IDF nickname is simply "The Unit". The unit's motto is "Who Dares Wins."
The unit is best known for Operation Thunderbolt, commonly known as Operation Entebbe, in which it rescued more than 100 Air France airline passengers hijacked and flown to Uganda by PLO terrorists, losing only the assault element commander, Yonatan Netanyahu, to enemy gunfire. Three hostages were also killed.[2]
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matkal
And now we skip across the pond to the United states where we have:
Chuck Norris and his Delta Force
From wiki: The 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (1st SFOD-D) — commonly known as Delta in the U.S. Army, Delta Force by civilians — is a Special Operations Force (SOF).
Delta Force's primary tasks are counterterrorism, counterinsurgency and national intervention operations, although it is an extremely versatile group capable of assuming many covert missions, including, but not limited to, rescuing hostages, raids, and eliminating covert enemy forces. Delta Force conducts missions similar to those attributed to the British Special Air Service (SAS), on which it was originally modeled.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force
The crazy roaming Army Rangers
From wiki: The United States Army Rangers or simply Army Rangers are specialized, elite American light infantry special operations forces capable of conducting direct action operations.
US Army Rangers draw strongly on the heritage, traditions and ethos of Rogers' Rangers but have no lineage back to that unit. The current US Army Rangers, the 75th Ranger Regiment, were originally raised for the Korean War. The modern rangers can only trace their lineage directly back to the Korean War and to the ranger training course which has existed continuously since World War II.
American light infantry units called rangers were raised for, and disbanded after, the French and Indian Wars, the American Revolution (for both sides), the American Civil War (for both sides) and World War II.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Rangers
The deep diving Otariidae Navy Seals
From Wiki: The United States Navy Sea, Air and Land Forces, commonly known as the Navy SEALs, are the Special Operations Forces of the United States Navy, employed in direct action and special reconnaissance operations. SEALs are also capable of employing unconventional warfare, foreign internal defense, and counter-terrorism missions.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navy_seals
Dashing to Germany:
Ja mein freunde it's Kommando Spezialkräfte
From Wiki: The Kommando Spezialkräfte (Special Forces Command, KSK) is part of Germany's Special Forces. Organized under the Special Operations Division (Div. Spezielle Operationen, DSO), it is closely modeled on the British Special Air Service (SAS).
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kommando_Spezialkräfte
Lets trot down the steppes to Russia:
With love, it's SPETSNAZ
From wiki:Russian special purpose regiments or Spetsnaz, Specnaz (Russian: Войска специального назначения, (спецназ) tr: Voyska spetsialnovo naznacheniya, pronounced [spʲetsnaz]) is a general term for "special forces" in Russian, literally "special purpose units". These Russian special forces can specifically refer to any élite or special purpose units under subordination of the Federal Security Service (FSB) or Internal Troops of Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the units controlled by the military intelligence service GRU.
Currently, the term is used as well to describe any special purpose units or task forces of other ministries (even the Emergency Situations Ministry special rescue unit) [1] Foreign special forces are also commonly referred to as Spetsnaz on Russian television, for example "American Spetsnaz." Spetsnaz has trained the Republican guard of Syria, Iraq and Iran and they have been involved in training other special forces units across the world. Strictly speaking, all Spetsnaz units operated by the KGB/FSB were called OSNAZ, an acronym for [voiska] osobogo naznacheniya or "special purpose [detachments]".
These internal troop units originally were raised for internal use against counter-revolutionaries and other undesirables. There has always been a certain amount of shifting of personnel and units between both the GRU who control SPETSNAZ and the MVD with OSNAZ MVD and OSNAZ KGB or FSB, especially between the latter two. Today, OSNAZ is a term mainly used in connection with GRU-controlled COMINT, ELINT and radio-surveillance units within the Armed Forces. Spetsnaz carry out reconnaissance and social warfare missions in "peacetime" as well as in war. According to Vladimir Rezun, a GRU defector who used the pseudonym "Viktor Suvorov", there were 20 Spetsnaz brigades plus 41 separate companies. Thus, total strength of Spetsnaz forces is around 30,000 troops.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spetsnaz
And now north across the border to the great white north of Canada:
Where we learn aboot Joint Task Force 2
From wiki: Joint Task Force 2 (JTF2) was formed on April 1, 1993 and is the Canadian Forces unit responsible for federal counter-terrorist operations. Its mission is to provide a unit capable of rendering armed assistance in the resolution of an incident that is affecting, or has the potential to affect, the national interest. JTF2 is subordinate to the Canadian Special Operations Forces Command and, along with the Canadian Special Operations Regiment (CSOR), forms the core of Canada's special operations forces.
While the unit has a primary focus on counter-terrorism, its roles have expanded over the years and it has likely assumed roles similar to that of other allied SOF units such as the British Special Air Service (SAS) and the United States Delta Force.
The Canadian government has been very secretive about releasing any information about the capabilities, organization and operational missions of the unit. However, some information has appeared. In 2002, author David Pugliese published a book, "Canada's Secret Commandos: The Unauthorized Story of Joint Task Force Two". This is the first book to examine JTF2 seriously. The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) has a web page with information on the unit.[1]. In 2008, Denis Morrisett, a former member of JTF2 published a book about JTF2, named Nous étions invincibles.
Recently, the Canadian Forces (CF) has created a website[2] dedicated to JTF2, which contains more information on the selection and training process. Most of the following information is derived from that website.
Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Task_Force_2
And finally we arrive in Nepal:
With the Kukri wielding Gurkha
From wiki: Gurkha, also spelled as Gorkha, are people from Nepal and parts of northern India, who take their name from the eighth century Hindu warrior-saint Guru Gorakhnath.[1] His disciple Bappa Rawal, born Prince Kalbhoj/Prince Shailadhish, founded the house of Mewar, Rajasthan (Rajputana). Later descendants of Bappa Rawal moved further east to found the house of Gorkha, which in turn founded the Kingdom of Nepal.[2] Gorkha is one of the 75 districts of modern Nepal.
Gurkhas are best known for their history of bravery and strength in the British Army's Brigade of Gurkhas and the Indian Army's Gorkha regiments. The Gurkhas were designated by British officials as a "Martial Race". "Martial Race" was a designation created by officials of British India to describe "races" (peoples) that were thought to be naturally warlike and aggressive in battle, and to possess qualities like courage, loyalty, self sufficiency, physical strength, resilience, orderliness, the ability to work hard for long periods of time, fighting tenacity and military strategy. The British recruited heavily from these Martial Races for service in the colonial army.[3]
article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurkha
So of these groups of people who kick the crap out of other people, who kicks the most...uh...crap? Why?
If I've forgotten any that you feel are actual contenders, contact your local Ain Soph© complaint department, and I'll add them as soon as possible.
Votes:
NZ SAS: 1
SAS: 4
Sayeret Matkal: 1
Spetsnaz: 4
Delta Force: 4
SEALs: 1
Gurkha: 1
Rangers: 1
JTF-2: 2
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Though I'd go with either of the three on the basis of suck it Navy rules bitches.
I have a friend who was Air Force EOD. I'm not sure how it compares to navy, but they were pretty hardcore. Not exactly special forces though.
And I DID fucking forget Spetsnaz. Being corrected.
Boo
Also Quid Green Berets would kick your pansy ass SEALs asses any day of the week
Army4Life bitches
Wooo go Rangers!
Apparently, they technically aren't special forces. Also, they work as teachers, which puts them in the same class as an angry Catholic School nun.
Whatever Quid
Whatever
Scalfin, Green Beret is a colloquial term for SF
(Although in all honesty, I think the Zumwalt is another Seawolf and will be expensive and probably not work properly but will let them test all sorts of shit out and then the class that follows will be awesome)
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If I recall correctly, there's something about it not being a specific group within the complexities of Army organization.
Crazy yes, but they're really reconnaissance for the rest of the marines.
I mean, yeah the guys are generally teachers. But they teach by taking their students into a war zone.
Isn't that the same as Catholic school?
"We have a habit of sending thousands upon thousands of badasses straight into enemy fire any time someone tries to get to Moscow without our consent. The climate in the whole eastern half of our country is so bad we use it as punishment. Our interrogation techniques consist of horrible things done to internal organs we find boring on a particular day.
These guys are badasses even for us."
Can I take that as a vote?
Yeah. These guys. They win. Hands down. If Brock Samson were real, he'd be in SPETSNAZ.
Delta Force wins on secrecy, though. Count my vote in for them.
Think about it, the guy you sit next to in subway might be a trained killer on his way to assassinate somebody and you don't even know it.
huh wha sdjdjdijsdkdsddsfhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Things that scare green berets also scare me.
Assassination was made illegal by Carter
Get the point, though, and that's fucking terrifying
I will say you forgot GSG 9, Germany's special forces. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSG_9
Also, anyone interested in Special Forces should read about Operation Red Wing, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Red_Wing
Seriously the stuff out of some action movie. The survivor also wrote a book about it.
Added. And that story about operation red wing is awesome. I even giggled at the name.
Mostly cause I'm joining the navy but eh, when it comes to an assault that has water anywhere involved, there is no doubt that these guys are the best.
"In the chaos that followed, Trooper Donaldson ran, under machine gun fire, across nearly 100 metres of open ground to rescue a wounded interpreter."
"In total disregard of his own safety, Lance Corporal Apiata stood up and lifted his comrade bodily. He then carried him across the seventy metres of broken, rocky and fire swept ground, fully exposed in the glare of battle to heavy enemy fire and into the face of returning fire from the main Troop position. That neither he nor his colleague were hit is scarcely possible. Having delivered his wounded companion to relative shelter with the remainder of the patrol, Lance Corporal Apiata re-armed himself and rejoined the fight in counter-attack."
As I understand it, the Gurkhas are and were just elite units that fought with the regular armies, not really special forces. I'm going to vote for them anyway.
While I'm here, why not some nationalistic dick waving: the maori battalion in WW2 were some hard bastards. Even Rommel called them "the greatest fighting force he'd ever seen". They were on of very few units to capture ground at monte cassino after they bombed the shit out of the monastery. They were fighting up a steep hill, oh and did I mention that they were up against a fallschirmjäger (paratrooper) unit that had fought at stalingrad, and so had experience defending ruins.
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No. Delta and Army Special Forces (Green Berets) are two completely different units that train for two completely different things. Delta is an SAS-modeled counter-terrorism unit, and SF, while they do a lot of Direct Action stuff and train to take down the bad guys as well as anyone else, focus primarily on guerilla warfare and the training of indigenous people to fight against whoever the enemy is. And while a lot of current Delta personnel were, at one point, Green Berets, not all Green Berets are Delta.
Also, SF is a separate unit under SOCOM same as the SEALs, Delta, Rangers etc..
Probably the only part of the police here that's any good.
STEAM
hahahahaha
Do they possibly have a plane? Do they call it
BEAR FORCE ONE
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Longbows and animal companions don't really cut it in modern warfare.
The Danish Frogmen.
You know the FROGS from MGS 4? Yeah.
Our own PRINCE is a Frogman. He could assassinate Harry and William, usurping the British throne, and send for our longboats. Just like that, and the spirit of Canute the Great would begin the genesis of the Neo-Anglo-Saxon Chronicles, echoing the waves of Freya's hall across the world.
I mean, if they were on a boat or something, I guess.
Aren't all the special forces based on the SAS anyway, so really they're all our special forces anyway.