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My Roommate Eats Too Fucking Much

tarachi_mousetarachi_mouse Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
It sounds petty and retarded, but I wouldn't ask for advice if this weren't a serious problem.

Thing is, we split the groceries, and I literally only get to eat (I calculated) up to an eighth or tenth of what we buy. This person eats three breakfasts a day and is awake more often than I am (I'm always up late, doin' them internets) and is home more than I am, so I suppose it makes sense, but it's fucking unfair because I reach in the fridge for that shit that I bought and it isn't there.

There are no boundaries. I even made all these chocolates to send down to my family for holiday gifts. There were something like 40+ of each type of chocolate, 3 types of chocolate. I now have 10 left. Total. Of either kind. Altogether. This needs to stop. How do I do make it stop, tactfully, with as little confrontation as possible?

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  • randommanrandomman Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    well the best way is to just talk to your roommate about it, say something like:

    we need to talk about sharing the groceries, I'd feel more comfortable if we didn't split the bill anymore and keep our food separate.

    something like that, trying to avoid it or beating around the bush too much will just lead to complications

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  • TalkaTalka Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Communication is almost always the best answer for annoying roommate tendencies. Depending on how comfortable you are with the guy you can say anything ranging from "hey man, you're eating all my shit, stop it" to something more tactful like "I think I spend more on food than you; from now on let's just stick to the food we bought or made ourselves."

    I've had annoying roommates, and I've let some really petty stuff fester for months and months until it developed into an intense hatred. Now I've learned to just quickly get these sort of things out there as soon as possible. The longer you wait the more bitter you'll get and the more you'll fret about confrontation and hurt feelings as possible.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    I had to have that conversation once with a roommate who didn't know how to shop. I worked nights at the time so I would just give her money and she'd buy groceries. She'd spend like ninety bucks and come back with two bags of food. Man, I can live over a month on $90.

    Usually if you bring it up nicely (randomman's idea is perfect), he or she should get the hint without getting too offended. Then, divy up the cabinet and fridge space so you don't have to be that guy who labels all of the food.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Splitting groceries is always a trust game - and this guy clearly has shown he can't be trusted without supervision. You should talk about it - and make it clear that if he can't tone it down then you may have to make different arrangements. Perhaps you could consider rejigging how you do this - perhaps only buy some things together - like say cleaning/bathroom/dinner groceries - then both parties pay for their own breakfast or lunch stuff - that is what I used to do in similar situations and it really limited aggravation (as we had similar issues with differential consumption)

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It sounds like this dude is way over the line, but one thing you can do is shop together for staples - the shit like mustard and salad dressing and pepper - but buy daily ingredients on your own. That way you don't have to ask every time you need some ketchup or something but you have ownership of, say, your t-bones.

    Another thing that can help is to do a little more cooking and meal planning and a little less buying of bachelor chow. Snack foods and packaged foods tend to go to the first hungry person, planned cooking tends to go off as planned and feed the house.

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  • 1ddqd1ddqd Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    planned cooking tends to go off as planned and feed the house.
    Except I made muffins the other day and my freakin' stoner roommate ate half. Plus, drank 5 of my 6 Shiners. We're going to have a conversation (beginning with randomman's tactful strategy) and see how it goes.

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  • brandotheninjamasterbrandotheninjamaster Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I can understand the need to feed one's face, but to eat chocolates that were reserved for gifts for family? I probably would have had it out with him then and there. Also, why does someone need 3 breakfasts? Does he have a tapeworm or similar parasite?

    I would confront him on this as soon as possible; the more you let this kind of behavior go on unchecked then the more he thinks its acceptable and will continue accordingly.

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  • DoxaDoxa Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I can understand the need to feed one's face, but to eat chocolates that were reserved for gifts for family? I probably would have had it out with him then and there. Also, why does someone need 3 breakfasts? Does he have a tapeworm or similar parasite?

    I would confront him on this as soon as possible; the more you let this kind of behavior go on unchecked then the more he thinks its acceptable and will continue accordingly.

    Yeah that was kinda out of line. Even if you didn't tell him there was obviously some reason you made those chocolates yet he failed to even ask and with all the tech a text isn't that hard.

    Definitely talk to him. don't let this stew inside you. If anything I would start getting separate groceries. Depending on your kitchen setup its fairly easy. One shelf in the fridge each, one cabinet each. Split the cost of condiments and spices and such like salt and pepper that you both will use. Sounds like you won't have to worry about fighting over a drawer for fruits/vegetables. Share the meat drawer, its not that hard to remember what you bought. Label it if its a problem. When your done eating put your dishes in the dishwasher and when its full run it.

    I think that covers what I did when I had to be a roomie for a month.

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  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Start getting your own food. I tried buying food with my roommates back when I had them. They are freaking carnivores. My husband and I aren't veggitarians...but the meat we bought I thought would've lasted about 2 to 3 weeks. It lasted less than a week because they eat huge servings of meat every day and were home a lot more than I was. Plus everything else went really fast too.

    It wasn't that big of a deal, because we opted to just not buy shit together again, and generally keep to our own food and occasionally asking to borrow. But, while we did borrow sometimes every week or so(sometimes more often) one of us would make a communal meal that everyone was welcome to. That seemed to work out best. We bought our own food, and everything that was shared was freely given.


    Also, when you are sharing groceries, it's one thing to eat the staple stuff i.e: eggs, meals, some snacks... But it seems to be going too far when you eat another man/woman's chocolate and take their booze. Also, something that you prepared specially(like the chocolate) it not fair game to eat without asking. It goes beyond rude.

    Just start doing all of your stuff separately, it will solve your hard feelings. Get your own space for your food so you don't have to label what's in the cabinets. If you still want to go in for shared meals, I would do as someone above suggested only do it for dinner since your schedules are different.

    TL;DR
    Tell your stoner roommate he needs to get his own munchies, or else you'll just help yourself to almost all of his weed(even if you don't use it, I'm sure you could give it away or dump it down the toilet at least.)

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  • FandyienFandyien But Otto, what about us? Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Giving away or dumping someone's expensive drugs down the the toilet is a rotten, nasty, passive-aggressive idea and I suggest you avoid doing anything like that ever.

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  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I was going for humor, I wouldn't do that. But eating up someone's food is pretty irritating thing to do to. And to do it at this rate the guy has to be an idiot, or using the guy. If the guy can buy weed, he can buy his own snacks.

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  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Thing is, we split the groceries, and I literally only get to eat (I calculated) up to an eighth or tenth of what we buy. This person eats three breakfasts a day and is awake more often than I am (I'm always up late, doin' them internets) and is home more than I am, so I suppose it makes sense, but it's fucking unfair because I reach in the fridge for that shit that I bought and it isn't there.

    Three breakfasts? This is what you get for moving in with a fucking hobbit.

    Only buy staples together and keep those inside the fridge door. Establish separate shelf-space in the fridge and pantry and separate cupboards for dry- and canned-goods. Feel free to give him more shelf-space to accomodate his voracious appetite when he sits down to eat his elevenses, just make sure it's clear what is his and what is off-limits.

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  • brandotheninjamasterbrandotheninjamaster Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If you bought things separately would this person respect your things enough not to eat them?

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  • SammyFSammyF Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    If you bought things separately would this person respect your things enough not to eat them?

    This is why shopping separately is only half the solution: you also need separate storage spaces. Respecting property in common spaces isn't something you should necessarily expect 100% of the time between roommates, but if you can't trust someone to respect your personal stuff in your personal space, someone needs to GTFO.

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  • NeylaNeyla Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I had the same issue with my roomate. I got sick and tired of buying things everyday (especially milk) jsut to have something. We tried talking to him nicely but it didn't work. Just just ended up getting a Bar fridge for our bedroom, and leave our goodies there.

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  • FunnyFreakFunnyFreak Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Talk to your roommate about it, tell him he's eating too damn much of the shared groceries and if he keeps it up, that you'll just get your own food. And if he continues, do that, buy your own food, don't let him have any of it.

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  • LoathingLoathing Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    SammyF wrote: »
    If you bought things separately would this person respect your things enough not to eat them?

    This is why shopping separately is only half the solution: you also need separate storage spaces. Respecting property in common spaces isn't something you should necessarily expect 100% of the time between roommates, but if you can't trust someone to respect your personal stuff in your personal space, someone needs to GTFO.

    Don't necessarily need separate storage space for each of you. I've got two roommates and all of us do our own shopping, and keep all the food in the same fridge. We each know who's food is who's, and on the off chance someone eats someone else's food we just straight up say "What the fuck, you ate *x* and it was mine." Each time it's happened the person at fault went out and re-bought the same item to pay us back and settle the debt.

    I'd think it would be pretty bad if you lived with people who you had to hide food/items from so they wouldn't eat/steal them. Then it just comes down to finding new people to live with.

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  • DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Stop splitting the bill. Buy your own stuff.

    When I had roommates, we used to split it up. One guy kept buying expensive stuff because his parents paid his portion. As college students, we couldn't afford it. We kept bugging him to stop it or at least agree to stop splitting the cost of food, but he always said he would stop, then never did. So one day the other roommate and I sat down and ate all the expensive food he kept buying, along with pretty much everything else in the house. That did the trick.

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  • KealohaKealoha Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    My roommate and I split the bill once. And then I realized I eat way more than him [at home, he eats out a lot because, like Doc's guy, his parents foot the bill] and told him that we need to shop separately. It wasn't a big deal. I guess the thing is, I was the one who was eating more, so yeah...

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I've had 7 years of experience sharing food expenses and outside the initial month of flatting back when I started I've found people can be trusted (I've flatted with about 25 or so different people). So yeah, trustworthy people do exist

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Wow, he stole the presents you made? That is incredibly heartless!

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Wow, he stole the presents you made? That is incredibly heartless!

    Yeah, that was uncool. You need to sit down and talk about boundaries. As in, if he didn't make it, he asks you if he can eat it.

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  • cmsamocmsamo Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Hmm. Well, sharing food is not always the best idea.

    In our shared house of 4, we each buy our own groceries, even down to things like bread/milk/eggs, but we are all pretty laid back and have a policy of "if you need a splash of milk for tea/coffee, or a piece of bread or two for a sandwich", then we just ask each other, or in cases where someone is not there to ask, it's acceptable between us to take the odd slice of bread etc.

    As others have said, you have to start buying your own groceries. If you have problems with confronting your room-mate about this, then just use the handy excuse of "i'm starting a new diet of healthy eating on a budget" and state the need to buy your own stuff.

    As for the room-mate eating your chocolates... did you actually say they were gifts and weren't up for grabs? This sort of thing I guess would be avoided if your room-mate knew you guys weren't sharing food any longer...

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Wow, he stole the presents you made? That is incredibly heartless!

    Seriously! Even if he didn't know they were for gifts, who eats . . . *checks OP and calculates* . . . OVER A HUNDRED chocolates that someone else made? Leaving only 10? WTF??

    I would have a talk with him on two things, first that you aren't sharing groceries with him anymore and second that he has to start respecting some boundaries.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    LadyM wrote: »
    Seriously! Even if he didn't know they were for gifts, who eats . . . *checks OP and calculates* . . . OVER A HUNDRED chocolates that someone else made? Leaving only 10? WTF??
    How FAT is this guy! :-)

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Just talk to him about it really, you're simply going to have to confront him. You can slyly suggest you want to purchase seperate things but he still might eat your shit. Store it in a secure place like your own room. You should talk to him first though, maybe he'll cave and admit it and stop.

    And don't room with fat asses in the future. Fat people suck.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Wow. I always avoid this by buying my own food anyways. If me and a roommate want to split on a meal or a series of meals, we will come to an independent deal regarding that.

    I mean, its not like you are living with your parents and your mom goes and does groceries every week for the family. You are independent people who happen to live together.

    I've had roommates eat my food before and depending on the magnitude of what they eat I either don't care (but let them know I noticed) or can go up to "apeshit" level angry. Especially with meat, you dont steal someone's meat.

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  • hawkboxhawkbox Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    "Hey fatty, eat your own share for fucks sake." ? My first roommates pulled something like this. I went out and bought like 300$ worth of groceries and it lasted less than a week when we had agreed to buy our own. But it was cool cause they "put the leftovers in the fridge for me." Yeah real cool guys. So I just stopped buying food.

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  • ChalkbotChalkbot Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I had this same problem when I was in school. I solved it without ANY confrontation or conversation at all. Not to imply that my meathods were sound or reasonable, or even reccomend anyone else try it. It's just a good story to have in your head.

    I was very poor, and could barely afford to eat every day. My school had assigned housing, 4 people to an apartment. Three of us went grocery shopping together and split the cost 3 ways. The forth guy was on a totally opposite schedule to us, so we wouldn't see him often. Our agreement with him was that we could eat his stuff and he could eat our stuff, he did his own shopping.

    Problem: This guy would raid our food and eat huge quatities of stuff. If he was going to make a sandwhich, it often involved 3 or 4 slices of bread. WTF? We were like, wow, I guess we didn't realize the sharing would be so cut-throat. No guilt eating all his stuff. Well then he started not buying much stuff at all, then we started not buying as much and going out to eat more, storing leftovers in the fridge to maximize each meal. Well then our leftovers started to disappear! Half a cheeseburger or a partially eaten soft taco. Who the hell would do that? I'd get a large coke whenever we went out, then just store it in the fridge and sip on it for a few days, it soon became evident that someone else was sipping on it too.

    Finally one day after we went to Taco Bell for lunch, I put my large soda and a half eaten chalupa in the fridge before school (night classes) planning on eating the rest after school. When I returned home, the chalupa had a few more bites out of it, and my soda was half gone. I had enough at that point, not only was this ridiculous, but I couldn't afford to feed me and some other guy. I opened the cupboard and found that all we had was some vinegar and some salt. I took them both and liberally added them to my own soda, then went to bed. Never had any missing food after that.

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  • TaGuelleTaGuelle Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Chalkbot wrote: »
    I opened the cupboard and found that all we had was some vinegar and some salt. I took them both and liberally added them to my own soda, then went to bed. Never had any missing food after that.

    Lol, wow. He can't call you on it without admitting to stealing and he learned not to do it all at the same time. Before that, would you have considered eachother friends? If so, were you guys friends afterwords? How did he react to that?

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    with as little confrontation as possible?

    Shit is never going to happen if you try and do it like that.

    Tell him to his face this is going to stop.

    Then buy separately.

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  • CryogenCryogen Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I dont see how any type of discussion along the lines of "Hey, lets continue to share the food bill, but you need to eat less" is ever going to work.

    It sounds like the simple fact of the matter is that he is both home more, and eats more, than you. In that circumstance, and even split of the bill will never be fair. It would be very hard to agree on a fair split i would say, as well. I wouldnt even go down that road at all.

    Better off just going with a strict 'Buy and use only your own food' policy.

    My feeling is that if someone doesnt just automatically take only their fair share, and feels free to eat as much as they want simply because nobody said otherwise, then they arent going to be trustworthy under any type of honor-based system.

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  • ChalkbotChalkbot Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    TaGuelle wrote: »
    Chalkbot wrote: »
    I opened the cupboard and found that all we had was some vinegar and some salt. I took them both and liberally added them to my own soda, then went to bed. Never had any missing food after that.

    Lol, wow. He can't call you on it without admitting to stealing and he learned not to do it all at the same time. Before that, would you have considered eachother friends? If so, were you guys friends afterwords? How did he react to that?


    No, I barely knew the guy. We were assigned to live together at random by the school, and since he had a schedule opposite to my own, we only saw each other in passing or on holidays. Basically we both went on pretending nothing ever happened, haha. I wish I could have seen his face though.

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  • LavaKnightLavaKnight Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Doc wrote: »
    Stop splitting the bill. Buy your own stuff.

    When I had roommates, we used to split it up. One guy kept buying expensive stuff because his parents paid his portion. As college students, we couldn't afford it. We kept bugging him to stop it or at least agree to stop splitting the cost of food, but he always said he would stop, then never did. So one day the other roommate and I sat down and ate all the expensive food he kept buying, along with pretty much everything else in the house. That did the trick.

    It's usually not a good idea to do this with roomates. Even if you talk with him, and come to an agreement, you'll never be able to change his own eating habits, and shouldn't want to. Just feed yourself.

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  • Hobbit0815Hobbit0815 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Oh geez, sounds like my our last roommates. They were pigs, drank all our juices (that shit's kinda expensive), milk, ate everything like they paid for it. Which they didn't. They didn't even split the bill. They bought their 'two weeks' worth of groceries (like what, 3 bags of food? Retarded.), ran out and started sapping off of us. We were weak at the time, they were our friends, they didn't have jobs or money, said they'd pay us back. Well, they're not our friends anymore and owe us over $300 we'll never see. Needless to say, we kicked them out.

    Anyway, you NEED to talk to him. Say "Hey dude, I'm not rich, you're eating all my food. I think we should completely split out food apart, maybe you could even get a mini fridge for all your stuff. But seriously, it's gotta stop, you eat well over your half."
    Have him buy his own stuff: solved.

    Edit: If he takes it offensively he's a total douchebag.

    Also, our current roommates are awesome. We both equally buy food for eachother, split the food, it's everybody's food. They buy a good portion and so do we. It works out because they're not greedy fucking pigs and understand that they're not allowed to just live off of us.

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  • desperaterobotsdesperaterobots perth, ausRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I live with two housemates. We each have a section of the cupboard and fridge, and never the twain shall meet. Works well.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    It sounds petty and retarded, but I wouldn't ask for advice if this weren't a serious problem.

    Thing is, we split the groceries, and I literally only get to eat (I calculated) up to an eighth or tenth of what we buy. This person eats three breakfasts a day and is awake more often than I am (I'm always up late, doin' them internets) and is home more than I am, so I suppose it makes sense, but it's fucking unfair because I reach in the fridge for that shit that I bought and it isn't there.

    There are no boundaries. I even made all these chocolates to send down to my family for holiday gifts. There were something like 40+ of each type of chocolate, 3 types of chocolate. I now have 10 left. Total. Of either kind. Altogether. This needs to stop. How do I do make it stop, tactfully, with as little confrontation as possible?

    Say "I don't want to joint shop for foods anymore". You don't have to justify it, but at best you can say that your respective diets clearly don't match up. Just make it clear, nicely, that you'll be buying your own food and that it is off limits from now on.

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