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[WoW] Let's [chat] abou-THE ICE STONE IS MELTING!

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Lars wrote: »
    Presumably, the gear would work out to:

    Emblems of Heroism
    *T7 Gloves
    *T7 Chest

    Emblems of Valor
    *T7.5 Legs
    *T7.5 Shoulders
    *T8 Gloves
    *T8 Chest

    Emblems of Conquest
    *T8.5 Legs
    *T8.5 Shoulders

    That seems like it would work okay to me. It fits the model of having a progression path for both 10-man and 25-man raiders. Of course, this assumes that they'll be correcting it so that the 25-man is harder than the 10-man to account for the 25-man having the better gear.

    This is exactly what they said back in the day. Nax 25 gear is equivilent to Ulduar 10 gear. They said that back when they revealed the whole 10-man/25-man setup.

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
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  • UltrachristUltrachrist Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I figure I should probably make my dual spec holy since you can change inside instances and this is probably going to be expected flexibility. This means I will continue to stack up gold spent swapping between ret pvp and ret pve. Already like ~1800g spent or something like that. Today I specced PvP for arenas and fucked up my points and had to drop another 50. Ohh yeah.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    khain wrote: »
    Septus wrote: »
    Yep.

    I mean, as a whole, considering the relatively cheap cost of respeccing at 80, I'd say the problem was quite a bit more significant while levelling, than at 80.

    This is the truth, in forum posted form.

    Druids kinda suck at tanking alot while leveling, and I can't heal worth a damn off-spec, especically since it was a fresh 70 when WOTLK came out. And No one want's feral DPS, no matter how good it's gotten.

    This patch would have got my Druid to 80 if DualsTHE ICE STONE IS MELTING!

    What? How exactly do feral druids suck at tanking or am I totally misunderstanding what your saying?


    I completley messed up my edit, my bad.

    My Druid was a fresh 70 with no T anything gear, getting upgrades while levelin in Northrend.

    Since I was at the appropriate gear level for most instances, while everyone and their grandma's were overgeared I got hit a SHITTON harder then Druids in Merc PvP gear/T5/T6 and whatever.

    Combine that with the lack of armor compared to other classes and well I was getting my shit pushed in if I didn't have an overgeared healer/esponsible instance partners.

    In MY case, respeccing Resto would have been definatley appropriate.

    Which in a pug, is usually not the case.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    xzzy wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Bigity wrote: »
    Well there's always exceptions, but I think we were talking mostly about pugging stuff :)

    I wouldn't say the problem was mostly with the tanks either, it was with trigger happy DPS, mostly AOErs.

    Like aoe mage pullers? Oh I loved those guys "Here let me open that big pull with a blizzard, then I'll cone of cold and blink run around the whole time using arcane explosion screaming take it off me."

    I was always impressed by the ones who could both run around in circles AND type out messages demanding the tank save them. If only they could channel that kind of talent for good.


    This is where City of Heroes/Villains wins out.

    The AoE Blasters know that there job is to alpha-strike the mob and then faceplant, and most do it without complaint.

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  • GorkGork Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So what does everyone think about Tigole moving on to Blizzard's next online project?

    For reference: http://kotaku.com/5152490/world-of-warcraft-lead-moves-to-blizzards-next-online-game

    Gork on
  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Thank fucking God?

    I feel bad for those guys?

    Good riddance?

    Molten Core still sucks five years later?

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  • Racist JokeRacist Joke Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Gork wrote: »
    So what does everyone think about Tigole moving on......

    /happy dance
    Gork wrote: »
    ....to Blizzard's next online project?

    /facepalm

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Anyone know if weapon skill gain was patched recently? Attacking Ambassador Hellmaw does nothing for me.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Wait, why do we hate Tigole again?

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited February 2009



    Oh my God I should not be laughing so hard at that.

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  • PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Bag of Candies, why have you forsaken me?

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    Wait, why do we hate Tigole again?

    Molten Core, Arenas, PVp in general and the list goes on and on

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    PierceNeck wrote: »
    Bag of Candies, why have you forsaken me?

    9 out of 10 dentists agree you should eat more sugar

    Guess whom got the boxes of candies this year?

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  • ArkanArkan Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
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  • INeedNoSaltINeedNoSalt with blood on my teeth Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So is there a reason that lately, WSG drops my FPS like a brick?

    I haven't had trouble anywhere else (not even Alterac Valley with 80 dudes on the screen), but I get into a 2v2 fight in Warsong Gulch, and my FPS drops to <2fps. What is goin' on?

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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    Wait, why do we hate Tigole again?

    Because him and Kalaran/Furor/whatever the hell he's calling himself these days prefer hard core raiding and because they're elitist snobs who look down their noses at everybody who's not like them. They prefer the Everquest mentality of MMOGs(ie....long, drawn out and extremely punitive games). They enjoy molten core type content and wouldn't know how to design a good game even if god gave them the Dummies Handbook on how to do it.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So is there a reason that lately, WSG drops my FPS like a brick?

    I haven't had trouble anywhere else (not even Alterac Valley with 80 dudes on the screen), but I get into a 2v2 fight in Warsong Gulch, and my FPS drops to <2fps. What is goin' on?

    My fps tanks in Winterspring due to the shear number of allaince

    but then why it drops for you in Warsong is a very good question

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  • EuphoriacEuphoriac Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Thats probably why he left then. Looks like his mentality is no longer needed at WoW HQ so they 'redeployed' him.

    Sucks for the next game. Although this could mean that the hardcore people from WoW would emigrate there. Good riddance i say, but thats just me; someone who is only now breaking into 10-man Naxx with any regularity.

    Oh, and the Ice Stone has gone through a strange change on EU Ragnaros; it is indeed losing solidity via a rise in temperature. You might say it is melting but i'm sure that would be the laymen's term.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Poketpixie wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Wait, why do we hate Tigole again?

    Because him and Kalaran/Furor/whatever the hell he's calling himself these days prefer hard core raiding and because they're elitist snobs who look down their noses at everybody who's not like them. They prefer the Everquest mentality of MMOGs(ie....long, drawn out and extremely punitive games). They enjoy molten core type content and wouldn't know how to design a good game even if god gave them the Dummies Handbook on how to do it.

    So we're blaming him for MC but not the current content, which he was also around for the development of?

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    Poketpixie wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Wait, why do we hate Tigole again?

    Because him and Kalaran/Furor/whatever the hell he's calling himself these days prefer hard core raiding and because they're elitist snobs who look down their noses at everybody who's not like them. They prefer the Everquest mentality of MMOGs(ie....long, drawn out and extremely punitive games). They enjoy molten core type content and wouldn't know how to design a good game even if god gave them the Dummies Handbook on how to do it.

    So we're blaming him for MC but not the current content, which he was also around for the development of?

    Seriously. I love the irrational Tigole/Furor hate that pops up now and again.


    Tigole is a big part of WoW's success, and it makes sense that they would want him on their next big project.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited February 2009
    I'm still trying to wrap my head around this statement of post-expansion patches not being done ahead of time. Which they specifically said wasn't the case for 3.1.

    They're lucky only the really anal nerds remember that shit.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I have three romantic picnic baskets and not a single bag of candies. I am furious.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    Poketpixie wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    Wait, why do we hate Tigole again?

    Because him and Kalaran/Furor/whatever the hell he's calling himself these days prefer hard core raiding and because they're elitist snobs who look down their noses at everybody who's not like them. They prefer the Everquest mentality of MMOGs(ie....long, drawn out and extremely punitive games). They enjoy molten core type content and wouldn't know how to design a good game even if god gave them the Dummies Handbook on how to do it.

    So we're blaming him for MC but not the current content, which he was also around for the development of?

    Seriously. I love the irrational Tigole/Furor hate that pops up now and again.


    Tigole is a big part of WoW's success, and it makes sense that they would want him on their next big project.

    In fact, he was brought in late on the development process as I rememeber, so the game has only improved under his watch.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    shryke wrote: »
    I figure "Only at 80" is because this thing is gonna cost a big chunk o' gold. Like 1000g minimum.

    I don't understand why they can't just let that be the thing that makes it prohibitive for new players. You don't want Mr This Is My First Level 32 How Do I Click Rend to have two specs because it would be confusing? Fine, that guy probably doesn't have 1000g anyway. But if I want my level 80-minus-X to have two specs while leveling up? I should be able to drop 1000g on my level 70 or my level 61 or my level 30 alt to enable it.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I have three romantic picnic baskets and not a single bag of candies. I am furious.

    I have every other Love achievement completed. All I want is the Love Fool title. I could care less about the full year achievement right now.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    riz wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    I figure "Only at 80" is because this thing is gonna cost a big chunk o' gold. Like 1000g minimum.

    I don't understand why they can't just let that be the thing that makes it prohibitive for new players. You don't want Mr This Is My First Level 32 How Do I Click Rend to have two specs because it would be confusing? Fine, that guy probably doesn't have 1000g anyway. But if I want my level 80-minus-X to have two specs while leveling up? I should be able to drop 1000g on my level 70 or my level 61 or my level 30 alt to enable it.

    Which basically means it's for max levels and alts. And they may not want to confuse the issue with some level 30s wondering why they've got only 1 spec.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I have three romantic picnic baskets and not a single bag of candies. I am furious.

    I have every other Love achievement completed. All I want is the Love Fool title. I could care less about the full year achievement right now.

    My rogue has 6 romantic picnic baskets in a row
    Random sure keep thinking that

    I just think it was quite dumb of blizzard to remove the red bouquet as a drop and let people fight over the black one

    Did they not learn anything from the shear greed of people during Halloween over the pet and helm? And then the rage and arguments people had over the Xmas hat?

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Brainleech wrote: »
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I have three romantic picnic baskets and not a single bag of candies. I am furious.

    I have every other Love achievement completed. All I want is the Love Fool title. I could care less about the full year achievement right now.

    My rogue has 6 romantic picnic baskets in a row
    Random sure keep thinking that

    I just think it was quite dumb of blizzard to remove the red bouquet as a drop and let people fight over the black one

    Did they not learn anything from the shear greed of people during Halloween over the pet and helm? And then the rage and arguments people had over the Xmas hat?

    An 80 healer and tank can easily 2-man the first boss of normal Utgarde Keep.

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    Brainleech wrote: »
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I have three romantic picnic baskets and not a single bag of candies. I am furious.

    I have every other Love achievement completed. All I want is the Love Fool title. I could care less about the full year achievement right now.

    My rogue has 6 romantic picnic baskets in a row
    Random sure keep thinking that

    I just think it was quite dumb of blizzard to remove the red bouquet as a drop and let people fight over the black one

    Did they not learn anything from the shear greed of people during Halloween over the pet and helm? And then the rage and arguments people had over the Xmas hat?

    An 80 healer and tank can easily 2-man the first boss of normal Utgarde Keep.

    Me and another DK did this. Was a piece of cake.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I want Candy
    That's 612, Wharf Avenue.

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    I should note that Badman is fucking awesome
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  • CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Man, if we have to pay for dual specs, I'm gonna have to start saving money now. I'm terrible about doing dailies for money.

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  • ZandraconZandracon Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Woohoo! Level 80! A rare mob put me over the top, and now I have 3k g. Still need to get that epic mount. 2k left.

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  • Racist JokeRacist Joke Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So something interesting I found out while trying to find the rare books in dalaran. In-game, when you're on the main floor in the Legerdemain Lounge, it is spelled Legerdemain, but as soon as you go to the second floor, it changes to Ledgerdemain Lounge. I remember you guys talking about that in the thread (I think it was this one).

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  • PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited February 2009

    Seriously. I love the irrational Tigole/Furor hate that pops up now and again.


    Tigole is a big part of WoW's success, and it makes sense that they would want him on their next big project.

    Ya you're right. I probably shouldn't throw stones since I've never met the guy and have no real idea what he does at his job. They both seemed to pretty enthusiastically endorse EQ's style of play and it's not my cup of tea. I'll just leave it at that.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Seriously. I love the irrational Tigole/Furor hate that pops up now and again.


    Tigole is a big part of WoW's success, and it makes sense that they would want him on their next big project.

    Because he's been responsible for a hell of a lot of the bad decisions. He's the stubborn fuck they were referring to when they said "The lead designer doesn't want X." He's the reason why hybrids sucked shit. Molten Core was his brainchild. Whenever he came to the masses to defend a design choice, it was almost always one of his terrible pet designs that he was defending.

    In short, fuck him.

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    For those interested, apparently the http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44957 Greater inscription of the gladiator is working on heirloom shoulders. It's supposed to be fixed soon, so do it while you can. Since nothing else but the ZG exalted enchants work, It may be worth it.

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  • Paradox ControlParadox Control Master MC Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Tigole once came to my house, shot my mom, fucked my dog, and spit on my new shoes. He then told me he was nurffing my shaman to the ground and taking all his gold and giving it to classes who deserve it.

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  • SaraLunaSaraLuna Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    while I was doing the valentines achievements earlier, there was a troll rogue stealthing in circles around the dalaran streets, he was clearly having a fun time with it.

    after like 10-15 minutes of not finding an undead warrior though, I switched to my horde alt to look for one. There were six on the entire server. only one was lvl80, and he was off in outland somewhere. this is on a high-pop server that was open on day 1.

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