I'm thinking Eternity is looking pretty villainous.
Eh? Eh? Let's all just rack our brains for someone to beat Darkseid. That ass, all thinking he's got it made.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
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The only thing that could probably beat darkseid (unless we used the animated darkseid) would probably be Galactus, who would be excluded as well.
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No, actually Thanos would attempt to kick Darkseid's teeth in, but then Darkseid would erase him from existence using the Omega Effect.
Alright, you have said before that Silver Surfer is way more powerful than Superman. Silver Surfer has trouble with Thanos. Superman fights Darkseid, and does not get completely destroyed.
Every time Superman has beaten Darkseid has been extremely poorly written.
Example: In the Superman/Batman Supergirl arc, Superman beats Darkseid by flying him into the sun. In the same storyline, Darkseid gets beaten by Batman in the most retarded way possible. This should be ignored, because it makes Darkseid out to be completely retarded. Also, the Omega Effect is avoided in that storyline, which is, you know, flat-out impossible to do. That's the thing about the Omega Effect. It cannot be avoided. In any way. Ever. It will hit you eventually. It will go around or through any barrier, physical, dimensional or temporal, and it will hit its target. It's completely retarded.
Darkseid has enough power to take on the Legion of Superheroes on his own, and win.
Darkseid can mind-control thousands upon thousands of people simultaneously. He can transmute matter at will, and has access to technology not even Thanos can even concieve of. Darkseid has also been alive for countless millennia. He's at least ten times as old and experienced as Thanos.
Darkseid is a Galactus-level cosmic power, he is the god of evil, and he is vital to the fabric of reality.
Darkseid would beat the shit out of Thanos.
While Darkseid would pretty much beat the shit out of everyone, I don't think you're giving Thanos enough credit.
Thanos would certainly put up a good fight against Darkseid.
But Darkseid would still fucking kill him.
At one point Thanos gained complete omnipotence. And then he gave it up because he wanted to bone Death.
He is pretty hardcore. Didn't he kill half the marvel universe at one point?
Wasn't that when he had the Infinity Gauntlet though? Give that to Darkseid and he could do the same thing.
He's become infinitely powerful on more than one occasion.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
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Let's be fair, Darkseid basically beat Galactus with the omega effect, except Galactus immediatly came back because the universe can't exist without him.
If I recall this crossover correctly.
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Let's be fair, Darkseid basically beat Galactus with the omega effect, except Galactus immediatly came back because the universe can't exist without him.
If I recall this crossover correctly.
I'd ignore that instance because it completely disregards how Galactus has been established to work.
Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Let's be fair, Darkseid basically beat Galactus with the omega effect, except Galactus immediatly came back because the universe can't exist without him.
If I recall this crossover correctly.
I'd ignore that instance because it completely disregards how Galactus has been established to work.
I'll admit ignorance to that. I was flipping through the TPB's and I saw the crossover with Darkseid. I couldn't resist reading.
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Magneto wins.
Edit: Well, I imagine given the strength of his showing in the heo contest he'd do fairly well in the villain contest.
On the subject of X-Men villains, Mr. Sinister.
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superman and wonder woman would have fucked up Thor's shit
If they had decided to fight just Thor without worrying about each other. I'd think they just took out Shade then a big menage-est-troi of hurt between the 3 remaining.
See all 3 have motivation to fight fair after taking out Shade together.
Superman probably likes having someone as strong as he is to duke it outwith. I imagine it'd feel good to have to use your full gammut of powers. And Wonder Woman, being a warrior, would probably let the two fight, preferring to see how she faired against a God rather than cheap shot him.
Remember, these are 3 of the most respected and powerful heroes. I can see it more as a fight between them all to see who'll be the winner than "OH SHIT I CAN'T LOSE."
Whoever loses, I imagine a hardy handshake and a "Good fight, my friend" all around.
Also if we're doing this villian thing I totally vote for Annihilus.
And he has the cosmic power-rod thing.
That attaches to his neck.
What's it called?
Cosmic Control Rod? I don't even know what thing does.
Personally, I wanna see
Proteus (maybe subject to veto)
The Mask
Megatron
Ultron
Jack Pherson
Mirror Master
The girl from Doom Patrol who has every power you haven't thought of.
Taskmaster
Citizen V
Noh-Varr (Marvel Boy)
The Mask was only a hero in the movie. In the comics, pretty much everyone who put it on became a murderer (albeit a slapsticky, logic defying one).
I probably should've said Zemo instead of V, just to be clear.
Marvel Boy is a villain when brainwashed, and I think it's clear that he'll be a villain in all subsequent appearances as he tries to turn America into the new Kree empire.
She was from Grant Morrison's run on Doom Patrol, not from the team itself.
The Quiz
A Japanese woman with a fear of dirt, The Quiz had every power you hadn't thought of. To make her lose a power, you had to shout out its name. Because of her fear of dirt, she wore a long gown/gas mask that was decorated with question marks similar to the Riddler's outfit. The powers she exhibited were: flight, mimicing appearances, turning people to glass, turning back time, dematerilization, making things large, turning people into toilets filled with flowers, and the power to make escape-proof spirit jars.
I nominate Solaris, the Tyrant Sun. On a side note, I didn't vote in the final, and wouldn't have put Thor first if I had, but it makes my fanboy heart happy to see him win.
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He's like Constantine meets Batman, only evil.
Anally.
Eh? Eh? Let's all just rack our brains for someone to beat Darkseid. That ass, all thinking he's got it made.
Ultimate Dr. Doom could not but is still a strong contender for the Badass of the Year award.
Instead of a villain contest, how about we do a "Most Badass Moment" contest. That'd probably be more fun to read.
He's become infinitely powerful on more than one occasion.
If I recall this crossover correctly.
Advantage: Doom.
Shoe did that with the actual comics.
I'd ignore that instance because it completely disregards how Galactus has been established to work.
I'll admit ignorance to that. I was flipping through the TPB's and I saw the crossover with Darkseid. I couldn't resist reading.
Edit: Well, I imagine given the strength of his showing in the heo contest he'd do fairly well in the villain contest.
On the subject of X-Men villains, Mr. Sinister.
Emperor Joker?
See all 3 have motivation to fight fair after taking out Shade together.
Superman probably likes having someone as strong as he is to duke it outwith. I imagine it'd feel good to have to use your full gammut of powers. And Wonder Woman, being a warrior, would probably let the two fight, preferring to see how she faired against a God rather than cheap shot him.
Remember, these are 3 of the most respected and powerful heroes. I can see it more as a fight between them all to see who'll be the winner than "OH SHIT I CAN'T LOSE."
Whoever loses, I imagine a hardy handshake and a "Good fight, my friend" all around.
Fuck yes.
I am reminded of the end of Infinite Crisis.
Anally.
Also if we're doing this villian thing I totally vote for Annihilus.
And he has the cosmic power-rod thing.
That attaches to his neck.
What's it called?
Personally, I wanna see
Proteus (maybe subject to veto)
The Mask
Megatron
Ultron
Jack Pherson
Mirror Master
The girl from Doom Patrol who has every power you haven't thought of.
Taskmaster
Citizen V
Noh-Varr (Marvel Boy)
Those are villains?
The Mask was only a hero in the movie. In the comics, pretty much everyone who put it on became a murderer (albeit a slapsticky, logic defying one).
I probably should've said Zemo instead of V, just to be clear.
Marvel Boy is a villain when brainwashed, and I think it's clear that he'll be a villain in all subsequent appearances as he tries to turn America into the new Kree empire.
I think the rest are pretty clearly villains.
Not that I read any of it.
He meant from the book, not from the team.
I think her name was The Quiz.
She was from Grant Morrison's run on Doom Patrol, not from the team itself.
That's probably too powerful as well, though.
Hahahahaha. And I want the Riddler, if primarily for the recap.
I completely agree, which is why I say he's not very villainous.