Guitar Hero: Use the other thread

glithert

Guitar Hero. Lots of people used to like it, not so much now. Anyway, Bashing may be fun and all, but don't do it. And don't mention that I used to do it all the time, because I won't anymore, ok? I promise.

Guitar Hero: World Tour
(the world's first COMPLETE BAND GAME)

The instruments

The Guitar

New features include a larger star power button that looks like the bridge and a touch sensitive strip that can be used for a variety of purposes, including:
1. Tapping out solos (if the notes are connected with a purple rope).
2. Slap-bass style strumming.
3. Adding effects to sustains (not clear on this one).
And lastly, the neck is still detachable, but the connection is now supposedly rock solid.


The Bass
No dedicated instrument, but the Bass hasn't been totally neglected (unlike in some OTHER game...)
There is an open note now, represented by a purple line (just like the bass pedal for drums). It functions like any other note, except you just let go of every button to hit it. It can also be a HOPO.


The Mic
No picture needed really, it looks like a regular usb mic with the GH logo on it.

Vox plays a lot like RB. Talkies are present (there's even a beginner mode that makes everything a talkie) and your streak is based on phrases. The ending percentage is based on individual words, however.
You can activate star power at any time by shaking the microphone vigorously.
Also of note are freestyle sections where you can earn points for saying things to pump up the crowd.


The Drums

As you can see, it features one pedal, 3 pads, and 2 cymbals. They're velocity sensitive and feel very bouncy, from what I've heard. You can activate star power at any time by hitting both cymbals.
But wait! If it has 5 pads, and the RB drums have 4, however will they work together?!
Well, if you play WT using the RB drums it will remove one note track and adjust accordingly.

wiki wrote:

When using Rock Band's drum controller, which has one less percussion pad than the World Tour unit ("Rock Band" has four drum pads, "World Tour" has three drum pads and two cymbal pads), two of the lanes on the "World Tour" drum board will merge, reducing the note track to four drum pads and bass pedal.

My drums are broken! Whatever will I do?!

Go here.

The Music

wiki wrote:

1994 "About a Girl" (Unplugged) Nirvana
2007 "Aggro" The Enemy
1970 "American Woman" The Guess Who
1980 "Antisocial" Trust
1993 "Are You Gonna Go My Way" Lenny Kravitz
2006 "Assassin" Muse
2005 "B.Y.O.B." System of a Down
1973 "Band on the Run" Paul McCartney & Wings
1982 "Beat It" Michael Jackson
1997 "Beautiful Disaster" 311
1980 "Crazy Train" Ozzy Osbourne
1997 "Dammit" Blink-182
1993 "Demolition Man" (Live) Sting
1972 "Do It Again" Steely Dan
1984 "Escuela de Calor" Radio Futura
1997 "Everlong" Foo Fighters
1982 "Eye of the Tiger" Survivor
1994 "Feel the Pain" Dinosaur Jr.
2004 "Float On" Modest Mouse
1998 "Freak on a Leash" Korn
1977 "Go Your Own Way" Fleetwood Mac
2007 "Good God" Anouk
2008 "Hail to the Freaks" Beatsteaks
1979 "Heartbreaker" Pat Benatar
1995 "Hey Man, Nice Shot" Filter
1978 "Hollywood Nights" Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
1984 "Hot for Teacher" Van Halen
1977 "Hotel California" Eagles
1973 "Joker" "The Joker" Steve Miller Band
2008a "Kick Out the Jams" Wayne Kramer
2006 "The Kill" 30 Seconds to Mars
2005 "L'Via L'Viaquez" The Mars Volta
1987 "La Bamba" Los Lobos
2007 "Lazy Eye" Silversun Pickups
1986 "Livin' on a Prayer" Bon Jovi
1967 "Love Me Two Times" The Doors
1987 "Love Removal Machine" The Cult
1994 "Love Spreads" The Stone Roses
2007 "Misery Business" Paramore Paramore
2005 "Monsoon" Tokio Hotel
1988 "Mountain Song" Jane's Addiction
1980 "Mr. Crowley" Ozzy Osbourne
2005 "Never Too Late" The Answer
1987 "No Sleep Till Brooklyn" Beastie Boys
2006 "Nuvole E Lenzuola" Negramaro
2002 "Obstacle 1" Interpol
1980 "On the Road Again" Willie Nelson
2000 "One Armed Scissor" At the Drive-In
1979 "One Way or Another" Blondie
2006 "Our Truth" Lacuna Coil
2008b "Overkill" Motörhead
2002 "Parabola" Tool
2007b "Pretty Vacant" Sex Pistols
1998 "Prisoner of Society" The Living End
1992 "Pull Me Under" Dream Theater
1967 "Purple Haze" (Live) Jimi Hendrix
1973 "Ramblin' Man" The Allman Brothers Band
2008 "Re-Education (Through Labor)" Rise Against
1984 "Rebel Yell" Billy Idol
2006 "Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)" Lostprophets
1996 "Santeria" Sublime
1987 "Satch Boogie" Joe Satriani
2001 "Schism" Tool
2007 "Scream Aim Fire" Bullet for My Valentine
2000 "Shiver" Coldplay
1995 "Some Might Say" Oasis
1992 "Soul Doubt" NOFX
1995 "Spiderwebs" No Doubt
2003 "Stillborn" Black Label Society
1975 "Stranglehold" Ted Nugent
1974 "Sweet Home Alabama" (Live) Lynyrd Skynyrd
2008 "Ted Nugent Guitar Duel" Ted Nugent
2001 "The Middle" Jimmy Eat World
1987 "The One I Love" R.E.M.
1967 "The Wind Cries Mary" Jimi Hendrix
1993 "Today" The Smashing Pumpkins
2007 "Too Much, Too Young, Too Fast" Airbourne
2006 "Toy Boy" Stuck in the Sound
1984 "Trapped Under Ice" Metallica
1970 "Up Around the Bend" Creedence Clearwater Revival
2006 "Vicarious" Tool
2002 "VinterNoll2" Kent
2007 "Weapon of Choice" Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
2007 "What I've Done" Linkin Park
2005 "You're Gonna Say Yeah" HushPuppies
2008 "Zakk Wylde Guitar Duel" Zakk Wylde

The Gameplay

Like Rock Band, essentially. If you really want a big ol list of all the under the hood junk that's different, read this.


Will there be DLC?
You bet your ass there will be. A list of announcements can be found here.

Wowzers, Inspector Gadget! How much is all this going to cost?

Straight from the horse's mouth:

Activision wrote:

* $190 for the full band kit on PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii.
* $180 for the full band kit on PS2.
* $100 for the guitar/game bundle on Xbox 360, PS3 and Wii.
* $90 for the guitar/game bundle on PS2.

Dear Wii owners: Want to rock out with your cocks out but can't find anyone to do it with?

Pages are up for World Tour (http://pawii.pbwiki.com/Guitar-Hero-World-Tour) and Metallica (http://pawii.pbwiki.com/Guitar-Hero-Metallica). The Wiki doesn't seem to let you edit anonymously anymore, so just use 'pa.wiki@hotmail.comi' for user and 'wangwang' for the password.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9MAiDXhFLA

So there you go. This thread isn't just for WT, though. Feel free to whine about how you can't beat the devil/Raining Blood or advice on how to play.

Fawst

slash000 wrote: »

Target is selling the World Tour Guitar Bundle for $75 this week for 360/PS3/Wii versions.

Shit. That's a pretty fabulous deal. Too bad I kinda can't stand the guitar, and I have two RB2 Strats. Now if the game itself was on sale, that'd be one thing...

I could always try to convince my mom to get it for PS3, since she loves Rock Band. *shrug*

Lunker

Both Guitar Hero and Rock Band did nothing but rip off Konami. That's right—Rock Revolution was being developed in secret decades before Guitar Hero 1 ever came out.

Brainiac 8

Haha, Rock Revolution. :P

Anywho, I keep wondering why the war between fisher price music games is almost as fierce as the console war is to many.

There is value to both games, and both do things well, and both have things they do wrong. Meh, I enjoy both of them for varying reasons. Now with controller compatibility, it shouldn't be much of an issue to own both.

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Santa Claustrophobia

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

Haha, Rock Revolution. :P

Anywho, I keep wondering why the war between fisher price music games is almost as fierce as the console war is to many.

There is value to both games, and both do things well, and both have things they do wrong. Meh, I enjoy both of them for varying reasons. Now with controller compatibility, it shouldn't be much of an issue to own both.

Because people want to back the 'winner'. And they'll go so far as to use arbitrary and nonsensical arguments to do so. I have no problems with both existing on the market, but I do have concerns that the Activision method of game production (i.e. carpet bombing) might just salt the earth for everybody else.

Mr. G

2/12/09
Acoustic Track Pack
The Shins - New Slang
Ryan Adams - Wonderwall
Incubus - Drive

2/19/09
Wings Track Pack
Junior's Farm
Hi Hi Hi
Jet

2/26/09
Bob Seger Track Pack
Old Time Rock & Roll (As Seen On TV!)
Her Strut
Get Out of Denver

Shady3011

At least the commercial isn't lying anymore.

Brainiac 8

Santa Claustrophobia wrote: »

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

Haha, Rock Revolution. :P

Anywho, I keep wondering why the war between fisher price music games is almost as fierce as the console war is to many.

There is value to both games, and both do things well, and both have things they do wrong. Meh, I enjoy both of them for varying reasons. Now with controller compatibility, it shouldn't be much of an issue to own both.

Because people want to back the 'winner'. And they'll go so far as to use arbitrary and nonsensical arguments to do so. I have no problems with both existing on the market, but I do have concerns that the Activision method of game production (i.e. carpet bombing) might just salt the earth for everybody else.

As much as I have been enjoying GH: WT, I fear you are correct. It is getting to the point that adding more to the already large music genre pile can do nothing but harm the genre as a whole. And even though Harmonix is starting to do the spin off business, they have nothing on Activision, who seem to think that spin offs are what the industry is all about.

So far though, I'm not buying into the spin off game arena, as I'm content with the periodic dlc, which Harmonix supports fantastically and Activision has done really well with lately.

The Beatles may be the first time I'll take the spin-off plunge.

Oh, and yay for Old Time Rock & Roll! I love that song.

Schide

Oh dear lord Bob Seger. Thank freaking god no more of his shit got in the actual game.

Santa Claustrophobia

Missing Turn the Page which, of course, is in the GH:M game. I do wonder if they'll support exporting (probably not...)?

Fawst

My biggest problem with GH is the note spam and the horrible chartboard. Why the FUCK did they think it was a good idea to have colorful/pattern-laden chartboards? It's distracting, not to mention green notes can blend very easily when the board itself is fucking green. Granted, I've only played it on kiosks, but every time I have, I've had trouble with certain parts because of it.

I really don't like the guitar much, other than the tactile feedback of a "click" when you strum. I much prefer the fretboard button layout that RB has. But yah, to be completely fair, there's not much "wrong" with GH, I just prefer RB far more. *shrug*

UnbreakableVow

Mr. G wrote: »

2/12/09
Acoustic Track Pack
The Shins - New Slang
Ryan Adams - Wonderwall
Incubus - Drive

2/19/09
Wings Track Pack
Junior's Farm
Hi Hi Hi
Jet

Thanks, asshole. You just convinced me to buy GH:WT.

New Slang, Drive, Hi Hi Hi, fucking Jet?!

Chen

glithert wrote: »

wow

This man wins the Internet.

Roland_tHTG

No shit. Drums are so much harder than the guitar/bass(HAHA).

XiaNaphryz

Fawst wrote: »

My biggest problem with GH is the note spam and the horrible chartboard. Why the FUCK did they think it was a good idea to have colorful/pattern-laden chartboards? It's distracting, not to mention green notes can blend very easily when the board itself is fucking green. Granted, I've only played it on kiosks, but every time I have, I've had trouble with certain parts because of it.

Note span isn't nearly as bad in WT than in GH3. And you can change the backgrounds via the instrument creator in character creation, though only from selecting from different premade ones.

Chen wrote: »

glithert wrote: »

wow

This man wins the Internet.

You must have missed this guy (spoilered due to multiple Youtube links):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTld3T0cqSQ&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3LFjAQeoKg&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHXHUFYA4WY&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Gr_MBiIC8&fmt=18

Homestar Gunner

Ooh, ooh, I've got one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn2rK2FRoD4

She's 13

And British

mxmarks

Is that a cover of Oasis' "Wonderwall"?

UnbreakableVow

mxmarks wrote: »

Is that a cover of Oasis' "Wonderwall"?

It is, and IMO it's better.

Then again, I hate Oasis. But oddly enough, whenever someone covers their songs, I realize I probably just hate their singer.

Santa Claustrophobia

Homestar Gunner wrote: »

Ooh, ooh, I've got one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn2rK2FRoD4

She's 13

And British

You sure she's not Australian or a New Zealander?

mxmarks

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

Is that a cover of Oasis' "Wonderwall"?

It is, and IMO it's better.

Then again, I hate Oasis. But oddly enough, whenever someone covers their songs, I realize I probably just hate their singer.

I haven't heard it, but I have a good feeling you and I both can agree that the only cover of "Wonderwall" that should be put in any music game is Charlie Pace's.

UnbreakableVow

mxmarks wrote: »

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

Is that a cover of Oasis' "Wonderwall"?

It is, and IMO it's better.

Then again, I hate Oasis. But oddly enough, whenever someone covers their songs, I realize I probably just hate their singer.

I haven't heard it, but I have a good feeling you and I both can agree that the only cover of "Wonderwall" that should be put in any music game is Charlie Pace's.

Charlie Pace Pack 01
You All Everybody
Wonderwall
Good Vibrations (you get halfway through the song then fail out )

CornerEagle

Mr. G wrote: »

2/26/09
Bob Seger Track Pack
Old Time Rock & Roll (As Seen On TV!)
Her Strut
Get Out of Denver

Coo. But they're missing a week. Unless they're only coming out with the Oasis album that week.

Roshin

I hooked up my Wii to the internet for the first time in ages (seriously) with the intent of spending money on retro games and some new music for Guitar Hero: WT. The first part of that went well, the second part not so much. There are C64 games available now? And you didn't tell me? Bastards.

So I bought some games and then I started up GH and tried to enter the "music store" only to be told that I couldn't do that with my current user name. Appearantly, I need to change it and try again? What am I missing here? Is it my Mii name or my band name or what? Do I need to register somewhere online? Why can I shop for games, but not music?

Fawst

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

Is that a cover of Oasis' "Wonderwall"?

It is, and IMO it's better.

Then again, I hate Oasis. But oddly enough, whenever someone covers their songs, I realize I probably just hate their singer.

I haven't heard it, but I have a good feeling you and I both can agree that the only cover of "Wonderwall" that should be put in any music game is Charlie Pace's.

Charlie Pace Pack 01
You All Everybody
Wonderwall
Good Vibrations (you get halfway through the song then fail out )

I would buy GH:WT for that alone.

Brainiac 8

The game needs some "Johnny Be Good"

Also Colin Hay pack 01

Overkill
Down Under
People Just Love to Play With Words

cj iwakura

For what it's worth, having played Guitar Freaks in an arcade, I can say it's nowhere near as fun as Guitar Hero. The presentation isn't close to Beatmania or even Pop'n Music's standards, the notes are difficult to read, and the only fun songs are the covers(and that isn't saying much).

Also, the guitar is uncomfortably heavy. It's like it's made of pure metal.

elevature

I'm downloading the free Springsteen songs even though I don't own this game. Between this and the Shins/Ryan Adams stuff I'm getting very tempted to buy this, but I hated it the one time I played it.

JustinSane07

Guitarfreaks is fucking terrible.

I've played it. The guitar is heavy and thick, the buttons are sticky. The presentation is terrible. The on screen still split screens even if only one person is playing, like it's DDR or something. It's just....ugh. Everything about it is awful. And I didn't even mention how bad 90% of the music is.

My big hold up of these games, meaning both GHWT and RB is the DLC. I feel like I'm missing out on a lot because I don't want to spend extra money on tracks. I have only the free tracks for GH3 and it's holding me back from enjoying the three "band" games. There's so much emphasis on something I don't want to buy that it's just a turn off.

Buuuuttt, is that 79 dollar deal from Target still going on? I just looked at their website and it was 189.99.

Fawst

The Target deal is for the guitar/game bundle, not the full band kit.

Here's the 360 link.
Here's the PS3 link.

The page says it's available online AND in-store, so... yay!

Shady3011

My friend sent me this picture, and it made me chuckle.

Brainiac 8

Shady3011 wrote: »

My friend sent me this picture, and it made me chuckle.

Hahaha, I used to play these text adventures on my old computer all the time when I was a kid.

Santa Claustrophobia

It's still overcharted and the band members aren't animated well.

Brainiac 8

Santa Claustrophobia wrote: »

It's still overcharted and the band members aren't animated well.

Plus the online sucks something fierce.

Campion

I don't know, I enjoyed the one time I played on online.

CornerEagle

Springsteen track pack get. Heavy on the strums, "My Lucky Day" heavy on slide notes, both heavy on star power. You're not supposed to fail these tracks. Fun enough.

Now to bust out the mic and boot up Born To Run again...

JWFokker

So....the GH: Metallica track list is out.

Kinda sucks balls in my opinion. I particularly hate how they use "Ride the Lightning" as some sort of clever reference in their press release but THE FUCKING SONG IS NOT IN THE GAME.

Vater5B

Alright, so I need help. I've Googled for 30 minutes now and have found people with the same problem but no solution.

I put Guitar Hero III in my 360 for the first time ever tonight, and now suddenly my 2 Xplorers that have been working fine with GHII and RB suddenly don't work at all. For anything. The buttons just act like they are being mashed constantly. Even just at the dashboard. I have had them both since GHII came out, so it looks like no RMA or anything is possible.

Anyone know what's up?

theantipop

So my strum bar is squeeky. In fact, this is the second guitar I've had and both have been squeeky. This is super annoying. Is there any guide or recommendations for how and where to lubricate it (and what kind of lubricant to use, don't want any nasty rashes appearing :winky: )? This hasn't happened with any other GH controllers, but with two in a row being affected, I feel like I'm better off taking matters into my own hand.

Homestar Gunner

JWFokker wrote: »

So....the GH: Metallica track list is out.

Kinda sucks balls in my opinion. I particularly hate how they use "Ride the Lightning" as some sort of clever reference in their press release but THE FUCKING SONG IS NOT IN THE GAME.

/oldtimerocknroll

Well okay, maybe that joke doesn't work so much anymore.

Roshin

JWFokker wrote: »

So....the GH: Metallica track list is out.

Kinda sucks balls in my opinion. I particularly hate how they use "Ride the Lightning" as some sort of clever reference in their press release but THE FUCKING SONG IS NOT IN THE GAME.

Instant buy for me. Next up Guitar Hero: Kiss, please.