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Stand Up Open Mic Night: Suggestions for not failing
So it's my first time doing this, and I don't necessarily think I'm Eddie Murphy or Lewis Black or anything. I just want to give it a go, and it's free so you know why not.
But I'm looking for suggestions if anyones ever done this before. It's a monday in february, so it might not be as packed as usual, but it is probably the biggest comedy club in the Twin Cities, so I'm sure there will be people in the audience as well as comedians backstage that know that drill.
Anyways I just want to do the best job possible, preferably...make some people laugh but would take any suggestions, be it on delivery, voice, stage presence...anything. Sorry this is vague, but I have no idea what Im doing haha.
The er uh um thing is killer. Try and train yourself out of these verbal crutches if you can (it'll also make you sound more intelligent when you speak not-on-stage).
You need a routine. Do you know what kind of comedy you're going to do? Can you handle being heckled?
I hope I'm funny.
I'm working on a routine so I'm definately gonna have material (hopefully its good material). I think I can handle being heckled.
I tend to be funnier when angry, but I'm hoping I don't get heckled.
Supposedly the club has a no booing policy, but I'm sure that doesnt stop everyone, and I don't plan on it stopping anyone who truly thinks I suck.
I was a on-air DJ for a few years so I'm used to turning on the speech concentration machine within my brain and affirming and speaking consistently. I guess I'm most worried that being up on stage might challenge my concentration.
I've done public speaking before, and If It's something I believe in or know I want to be doing, I'm usually very loud as well as affirmed but I tend not to be as loose as I think I'd like to be.
The fact that you were a DJ was good, because the thing that most people don't understand about standup is that you have to be funny by yourself. Most people who are just generally funny are funny around people, as they react to statements with humor. Standup is the opposite of reactionary (although you do have to react to the audience by following up good bits and dropping bad ones).
Expect to be bad, and it should take some of the pressure off. And yes, have a "thing." An angle that you stick with for your performance, or a delivery method (deadpan, manic, weird, normal) and stick with it.
There's a lot of amateur standup out there, though, so don't feel like you need to be the next Stephen Wright or whoever.
admanbunionize your workplaceSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
edited January 2009
I think most of it has been covered, but here's my addition: Don't make meta-jokes when you make a joke that no one laughs it. Just leave it behind and keep going.
JohnnyCacheStarting DefensePlace at the tableRegistered Userregular
edited January 2009
The biggest thing I've noticed watching open mics is the difference between people who just think they are funny and try to improv a comedy routine and those who have real material.
The second biggest thing I've noticed - Good comedy is original. your standup routine should not have too many references in it, quotes, that kind of thing. That's terrible, 8th grade forensics level funny.
Don't do a 'character' on-stage - it works for some comedians like Jack Dee or Johnny Vegas but for the most part as long as you've got a good routine, you'll be fine.
Keith Malley just took a load of submissions in the past month or so to open for his annual show in April. If you grab their podcasts for the last few weeks you'll get to hear two-minute amateur stand-up submissions, judged and commented on by Malley, his co-host/girlfriend, and other professional comedians such as Jesse Joyce and Joe DeRosa, which might help you critique your own work.
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JohnnyCacheStarting DefensePlace at the tableRegistered Userregular
edited January 2009
yeah, if you ever find a "character" it will probably happen accidentally on stage - that's what happened to most of the guys that have one, it just stuck to the wall one night.
You need a routine. Do you know what kind of comedy you're going to do? Can you handle being heckled?
I hope I'm funny.
Even if you're not, you've got bigger balls than other guys
I'm working on a routine so I'm definately gonna have material (hopefully its good material). I think I can handle being heckled.
You're prepared. Good. As for hecklers, The Amazing Jonathon suggests that you get some good quick insults memorized such as "Man, why you gotta give me a hard time? I don't come down to Burger King and slap the meat out of your hands."
I tend to be funnier when angry, but I'm hoping I don't get heckled.
Supposedly the club has a no booing policy, but I'm sure that doesnt stop everyone, and I don't plan on it stopping anyone who truly thinks I suck.
I would actually prefer booing to silence. At least you can get a reaction. Silence can be LOUD up on stage.
I was a on-air DJ for a few years so I'm used to turning on the speech concentration machine within my brain and affirming and speaking consistently. I guess I'm most worried that being up on stage might challenge my concentration.
I was as well, though you were probably more professional than me. I learned two things when I started being an on-air personality. I worked better from a script/outline, and I work even better with a partner. You already performed on a mic before a large audience. What's the difference now?
I've done public speaking before, and If It's something I believe in or know I want to be doing, I'm usually very loud as well as affirmed but I tend not to be as loose as I think I'd like to be.
RULE #1: DO NOT BE AFRAID TO BOMB.
What works for some comedians is to try and think of the audience as your best friend or the guy sitting next to you at a bar. Just don't tense up and relax. These guys are hear to listen to a joke or some funny experience you had recently. Like the time your dad walked in you masturbating so you switch to TLC quickly. Then he tells you the two words you never want to hear when you have a remote in one hand, lube in the other, and your pants around your ankles; "Move Over."
I've done more than my fair share of Open Mic Nights and I can tell you that they are ball busters if you let it get on top of you; you can give yourself a HUGE leg up when it comes to hecklers if you check it out on youtube. Joe Rogan has a brilliant one where he takes on a drunk guy wearing an Affliction shirt. Jimmy Carr has another one against a guy with a 'banged your mom' gag.
Also, the ultimate comeback that has been passed around from comedian to comedian for years is, "Hey, this is my thing; don't tell me how to do my thing! You don't see me hanging around your street corner, slappin' dicks outta your mouth, do ya?"
All of the other advice given thus far is aces; have a routine ready to go, broken up into five minute intervals in case you get the green light to hang onstage longer. Avoid race humor, stay the hell away from political humor and listen to your crowd.
I did stand up for a couple of years(Then improv. Improv is easier)
Don't worry about bombing, but pay attention to the bomb. Was it delivery? Was it the gag? Was it the audience? You want to guage the issue because sometimes you just need to dump a routine and sometimes it needs tweaking. Sometimes the act before you tanked and the audience just needs to be won back. Sometimes it is the wrong crowd. Like the post above about political humor, you can guage a crowd and chose to use or not use political stuff. Nothing should be "off limits" but you want to entertain, so work to your audience. Since this is your first set, you have no routine. Just get out there and do your gags. Pay attention to how the audience reacts and make notes. Sometimes just a change in delivery, a pause, a knowing look, or inflection, can make all the difference.
If you really want to do this, write a bunch, then be your own worst critic.
If you really, really want to do this, hone your material down in the mirror(or on tape) til you know just how long each bit takes, know the material back and forth, and can do a 20 minute set or be able to cut it to 10 minutes on the spot if the manager needs you to.
One thing I really liked to do(And I beleive works really well) is a call back. When you have a great bit, that you can call back to in your closer, the audience just eats that up.
stay the hell away from political humor and listen to your crowd.
No political humor? Why per say?
My guess would be because it's easy to divide a room/turn them against you. It works well for comedians that have built up a following or are well known enough for such views. Like Bill Maher. No one is going to go see Bill Maher and be like, "wait... why is this guy bashing Republicans? I'm pissed!" No one wants to go see an open-mic stand-up where they're expecting some light, fun jokes and then have some dude (or dudette) crap all over their views.
Starting off, I would stay with situational/insight comedy. Once you get known, maybe delve a bit into politics if you want, but be aware that it might alienate some people. It's like with Jeff Dunham. He usually gets pretty good laughs because a lot of his material is apolitical. But before he breaks out the puppets he sometimes does do a few political jokes and you can hear that he's not getting anywhere near the same enthusiasm/laughs.
Don't do a 'character' on-stage - it works for some comedians like Jack Dee or Johnny Vegas but for the most part as long as you've got a good routine, you'll be fine.
Keith Malley just took a load of submissions in the past month or so to open for his annual show in April. If you grab their podcasts for the last few weeks you'll get to hear two-minute amateur stand-up submissions, judged and commented on by Malley, his co-host/girlfriend, and other professional comedians such as Jesse Joyce and Joe DeRosa, which might help you critique your own work.
I kind of disagree. I mean, Lewis Black isn't like that all the time. Dave Chappelle isn't really like how he is on stage. Andrew Dice Clay's routine is just one big act. Nearly every comedian is playing a role to some degree. It just depends on how far you want to take it/how believable that character is.
Don't do a 'character' on-stage - it works for some comedians like Jack Dee or Johnny Vegas but for the most part as long as you've got a good routine, you'll be fine.
Keith Malley just took a load of submissions in the past month or so to open for his annual show in April. If you grab their podcasts for the last few weeks you'll get to hear two-minute amateur stand-up submissions, judged and commented on by Malley, his co-host/girlfriend, and other professional comedians such as Jesse Joyce and Joe DeRosa, which might help you critique your own work.
I kind of disagree. I mean, Lewis Black isn't like that all the time. Dave Chappelle isn't really like how he is on stage. Andrew Dice Clay's routine is just one big act. Nearly every comedian is playing a role to some degree. It just depends on how far you want to take it/how believable that character is.
The difference is that all those people are ridiculously popular because of their stand-up. For someone who's just at an open mic, the audience are a lot more critical.
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It can take a lot to find your character. By all means experiment and discover who it is, but you might want to understand stand up a bit more before hand.
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Don't do a 'character' on-stage - it works for some comedians like Jack Dee or Johnny Vegas but for the most part as long as you've got a good routine, you'll be fine.
Keith Malley just took a load of submissions in the past month or so to open for his annual show in April. If you grab their podcasts for the last few weeks you'll get to hear two-minute amateur stand-up submissions, judged and commented on by Malley, his co-host/girlfriend, and other professional comedians such as Jesse Joyce and Joe DeRosa, which might help you critique your own work.
I kind of disagree. I mean, Lewis Black isn't like that all the time. Dave Chappelle isn't really like how he is on stage. Andrew Dice Clay's routine is just one big act. Nearly every comedian is playing a role to some degree. It just depends on how far you want to take it/how believable that character is.
The difference is that all those people are ridiculously popular because of their stand-up. For someone who's just at an open mic, the audience are a lot more critical.
Personally, as long as it isn't some obviously exaggerated caricature, I don't think the audience will even know if it's the real person or a character. The real reason why so many comedians "go into character" with their routines is because it is actually easier that way. It's easier to not laugh at yourself or to get self-conscious if you're playing a part. You just stick to the script, play the bit, and hope you get the laughs. If you're getting booed or no one gets it, it's not you out there, it's that character. It's sort of a defense mechanism. DJs, pundits, talk show hosts, etc all use this to varying degrees. Often the character share similarities with how the actual individual feels or thinks, but is exaggerated or changed in certain elements for various comedic effect. Brian Regan does a good job of this. He delivers a lot of straight on material and then deviates in various characters. Another example that isn't as extreme as Regan is Louis C.K.
There are, of course, numerous comedians that are on stage exactly who they are in real life. Bill Maher, Dennis Miller, George Carlin, Paton Oswalt are all good examples. Of course, much of what they did/do was/is observation and political humor, which can be difficult if no one knows who you are nor knows your style. I would be willing to bet that just being yourself on stage is much harder than playing a part.
Practice, practice, practice. Know every routine you are going to say forwards, backwards and in Latin. Practice writing it down (and write down everything you plan on saying from the very second you step on stage to the second you step off), practice saying it out loud, audio tape yourself, video tape yourself, do it in front of a few friends at home first. You'll want to be as comfortable with what you are going say as humanly possible, because when you step on stage, you'll be excited, nervous and anything that can go wrong, will go wrong..
Telling a joke or going into a routine that's bad or gets zero laughs is one thing, but not knowing what you're going to say or mumbling through it is the true killer.
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Can you handle the negative criticism if you start getting booed? Can you turn the boos around and make a joke?
I hope I'm funny.
I'm working on a routine so I'm definately gonna have material (hopefully its good material). I think I can handle being heckled.
I tend to be funnier when angry, but I'm hoping I don't get heckled.
Supposedly the club has a no booing policy, but I'm sure that doesnt stop everyone, and I don't plan on it stopping anyone who truly thinks I suck.
I was a on-air DJ for a few years so I'm used to turning on the speech concentration machine within my brain and affirming and speaking consistently. I guess I'm most worried that being up on stage might challenge my concentration.
I've done public speaking before, and If It's something I believe in or know I want to be doing, I'm usually very loud as well as affirmed but I tend not to be as loose as I think I'd like to be.
Expect to be bad, and it should take some of the pressure off. And yes, have a "thing." An angle that you stick with for your performance, or a delivery method (deadpan, manic, weird, normal) and stick with it.
There's a lot of amateur standup out there, though, so don't feel like you need to be the next Stephen Wright or whoever.
The second biggest thing I've noticed - Good comedy is original. your standup routine should not have too many references in it, quotes, that kind of thing. That's terrible, 8th grade forensics level funny.
I host a podcast about movies.
Keith Malley just took a load of submissions in the past month or so to open for his annual show in April. If you grab their podcasts for the last few weeks you'll get to hear two-minute amateur stand-up submissions, judged and commented on by Malley, his co-host/girlfriend, and other professional comedians such as Jesse Joyce and Joe DeRosa, which might help you critique your own work.
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I host a podcast about movies.
RULE #1: DO NOT BE AFRAID TO BOMB.
What works for some comedians is to try and think of the audience as your best friend or the guy sitting next to you at a bar. Just don't tense up and relax. These guys are hear to listen to a joke or some funny experience you had recently. Like the time your dad walked in you masturbating so you switch to TLC quickly. Then he tells you the two words you never want to hear when you have a remote in one hand, lube in the other, and your pants around your ankles; "Move Over."
Steve Martin wrote a book recently called Born Standing, and its a very interesting look into his life and career as a comedian.
Born Standing Up is the actual title.
That is a great boom btw.
I love Steve Martin and am willing to try stand up too.
This is all good advice.
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Also, the ultimate comeback that has been passed around from comedian to comedian for years is, "Hey, this is my thing; don't tell me how to do my thing! You don't see me hanging around your street corner, slappin' dicks outta your mouth, do ya?"
All of the other advice given thus far is aces; have a routine ready to go, broken up into five minute intervals in case you get the green light to hang onstage longer. Avoid race humor, stay the hell away from political humor and listen to your crowd.
This is unreal, I've never seen a heckler get so casually dismantled.
No political humor? Why per say?
Don't worry about bombing, but pay attention to the bomb. Was it delivery? Was it the gag? Was it the audience? You want to guage the issue because sometimes you just need to dump a routine and sometimes it needs tweaking. Sometimes the act before you tanked and the audience just needs to be won back. Sometimes it is the wrong crowd. Like the post above about political humor, you can guage a crowd and chose to use or not use political stuff. Nothing should be "off limits" but you want to entertain, so work to your audience. Since this is your first set, you have no routine. Just get out there and do your gags. Pay attention to how the audience reacts and make notes. Sometimes just a change in delivery, a pause, a knowing look, or inflection, can make all the difference.
If you really want to do this, write a bunch, then be your own worst critic.
If you really, really want to do this, hone your material down in the mirror(or on tape) til you know just how long each bit takes, know the material back and forth, and can do a 20 minute set or be able to cut it to 10 minutes on the spot if the manager needs you to.
One thing I really liked to do(And I beleive works really well) is a call back. When you have a great bit, that you can call back to in your closer, the audience just eats that up.
My guess would be because it's easy to divide a room/turn them against you. It works well for comedians that have built up a following or are well known enough for such views. Like Bill Maher. No one is going to go see Bill Maher and be like, "wait... why is this guy bashing Republicans? I'm pissed!" No one wants to go see an open-mic stand-up where they're expecting some light, fun jokes and then have some dude (or dudette) crap all over their views.
Starting off, I would stay with situational/insight comedy. Once you get known, maybe delve a bit into politics if you want, but be aware that it might alienate some people. It's like with Jeff Dunham. He usually gets pretty good laughs because a lot of his material is apolitical. But before he breaks out the puppets he sometimes does do a few political jokes and you can hear that he's not getting anywhere near the same enthusiasm/laughs.
I kind of disagree. I mean, Lewis Black isn't like that all the time. Dave Chappelle isn't really like how he is on stage. Andrew Dice Clay's routine is just one big act. Nearly every comedian is playing a role to some degree. It just depends on how far you want to take it/how believable that character is.
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The difference is that all those people are ridiculously popular because of their stand-up. For someone who's just at an open mic, the audience are a lot more critical.
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Personally, as long as it isn't some obviously exaggerated caricature, I don't think the audience will even know if it's the real person or a character. The real reason why so many comedians "go into character" with their routines is because it is actually easier that way. It's easier to not laugh at yourself or to get self-conscious if you're playing a part. You just stick to the script, play the bit, and hope you get the laughs. If you're getting booed or no one gets it, it's not you out there, it's that character. It's sort of a defense mechanism. DJs, pundits, talk show hosts, etc all use this to varying degrees. Often the character share similarities with how the actual individual feels or thinks, but is exaggerated or changed in certain elements for various comedic effect. Brian Regan does a good job of this. He delivers a lot of straight on material and then deviates in various characters. Another example that isn't as extreme as Regan is Louis C.K.
There are, of course, numerous comedians that are on stage exactly who they are in real life. Bill Maher, Dennis Miller, George Carlin, Paton Oswalt are all good examples. Of course, much of what they did/do was/is observation and political humor, which can be difficult if no one knows who you are nor knows your style. I would be willing to bet that just being yourself on stage is much harder than playing a part.
Steam ID - BewilderedRonin
Practice, practice, practice. Know every routine you are going to say forwards, backwards and in Latin. Practice writing it down (and write down everything you plan on saying from the very second you step on stage to the second you step off), practice saying it out loud, audio tape yourself, video tape yourself, do it in front of a few friends at home first. You'll want to be as comfortable with what you are going say as humanly possible, because when you step on stage, you'll be excited, nervous and anything that can go wrong, will go wrong..
Telling a joke or going into a routine that's bad or gets zero laughs is one thing, but not knowing what you're going to say or mumbling through it is the true killer.