The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
The Guiding Principles and New Rules document is now in effect.
Red-Eye has a strange sense of deja vu as he pores over the plans assembled on Caprica.
Crisis! Food Shortage President Chooses A. -2 food OR B. -1 food. The President discrds 2 Skill Cards; then the current player discards 3 Skill Cards
[strike](activate raiders)
(jump prep)[/strike]
Madame President, what is your choice? (The current player is moot; only you would be discarding.)
Also, Red-Eye discards:
Food Shortage
President Chooses
-2 food
OR
-1 food. The President discrds 2 Skill Cards; then the current player discards 3 Skill Cards
(activate raiders)
(jump prep)
Turn 45 - El Skid - Karl "Helo" Agathon
Current Board Setup:
Players:
1. Valkun - President Laura Roslin - FTL Control - 2 cards in hand 2. Hippie - Lee "Red-Eye" Adama - Caprica - 5 cards in hand
3. El Skid - Karl "Helo" Agathon - Hangar Deck - 4 cards in hand 4. PolloDiablo - Tom Zarek - Caprica - 1 cards in hand
5. noneoftheabove - Admiral Galen "Chief" Tyrol - Weapons Control - 3 cards in hand
6. Thanatos - William "Husker" Adama - Communications- 2 cards in hand
Space: Newly updated to reflect Bill's communications actions this turn
1 O'Clock: 2 Civilians (A and C)
3 O'Clock: 1 Basestar
5 O'Clock: 2 raiders,
7 O'Clock: 2 Raiders
9 O'Clock: 4 raiders,, 1 Civilian (B)
11 O'Clock: clear Special rule: Training new pilots: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each unmanned viper suffers a -2 penalty to its attack rolls. Bomb on Colonial 1 - Keep this card in play until the end of the game. Players may not move to or activate any locations on Colonial 1. Ships in stock off the board: 8 raiders, 9 civilian ships
Turn Progress:
1. Receive Skills Step - 2 Leadership, 2 Tactics, 1 Piloting; shuffle piloting before draw and leadership after first card
2. Movement Step -
3. Action Step -
4. Crisis Step -
5. Activate Cylon Ships Step (if necessary) - none
6. Prepare for Jump Step (if necessary) - none
7. Discard and Check for Human Defeat.
Turn 45 - El Skid - Karl "Helo" Agathon
Current Board Setup:
Players:
1. Valkun - President Laura Roslin - FTL Control - 2 cards in hand 2. Hippie - Lee "Red-Eye" Adama - Caprica - 5 cards in hand
3. El Skid - Karl "Helo" Agathon - Hangar Deck - 4 cards in hand 4. PolloDiablo - Tom Zarek - Caprica - 1 cards in hand
5. noneoftheabove - Admiral Galen "Chief" Tyrol - Weapons Control - 3 cards in hand
6. Thanatos - William "Husker" Adama - Communications- 2 cards in hand
Space: Newly updated to reflect Bill's communications actions this turn
1 O'Clock: 2 Civilians (A and C)
3 O'Clock: 1 Basestar
5 O'Clock: 2 raiders,
7 O'Clock: 2 Raiders
9 O'Clock: 4 raiders,, 1 Civilian (B)
11 O'Clock: clear Special rule: Training new pilots: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each unmanned viper suffers a -2 penalty to its attack rolls. Bomb on Colonial 1 - Keep this card in play until the end of the game. Players may not move to or activate any locations on Colonial 1. Ships in stock off the board: 8 raiders, 9 civilian ships
Turn Progress:
1. Receive Skills Step - 2 Leadership, 2 Tactics, 1 Piloting; shuffle piloting before draw and leadership after first card
2. Movement Step - move to FTL
3. Action Step - Push the big button to jump; Humans are victorious!
4. Crisis Step - skip
5. Activate Cylon Ships Step (if necessary) - none
6. Prepare for Jump Step (if necessary) - none
7. Discard and Check for Human Defeat.
Helo runs up to the bridge with this fantastic plan; he's finally figured out a safe location where the fleet can stop and rest for a while.
Next question is whether we'll ever see a human victory that doesn't include Laura Roslin; I think I showed her a Cylon Attack card on 5 out of seven turns, leading to six of the bottom seven cards in the crisis deck being Cylon Attacks.
Also, opinions on the No Sympathizer variant? Feels like it still gave a close game and avoided the shenanigans/randomness of the regular Sympathizer version. What did all of you/observers think of how it played out?
We'll get you next time, humans! Out of curiosity, what was Civilian B?
I think I probably contributed to the human victory by being a very inept cylon. I was a toaster from the beginning, but I really overestimated how long it would take to jump along. The game was halfway over before I had done anything traitorous, so I just decided to be overt about it.
That was a lot of fun. Thanks for running it, Darian.
We'll get you next time, humans! Out of curiosity, what was Civilian B?
A (1 o'clock) 1 pop
B (9 o'clock) 1 pop
C (1 o'clock) 2 pop
The one you wanted would have been E in this latest shuffle: -1 population and -1 morale. But it didn't get placed. (Not that any civilian ships ever died, anyway.)
As an observer, I would say this looked fairly balanced, as evidenced by just how close the humans were to losing. If PolloDiablo had started sabotaging earlier, this could very easily have gone the other way.
To me, balance means the fate is in the players' hands. If the losing players were doing everything right and still lost by a decent margin, then something might still need to be tweaked.
Congrats humans! You have given us hope that we might one day survive destruction at the hands of our own creations.
I swear, every time we drew a Leadership check in that game, we just said "oh, we can fail this one, let's not do it." I was hanging on to those Declare Emergencies for way too long. I think I drew one Strategic Planning that whole game, and we kept getting Tactics tests.
Pollo, if I had been you, I totally would have waited a turn or two to reveal, just using my ability to make it a bitch to get people out of the brig. Did you have the Quorum card that brigged someone? Because I really would have used that before I revealed, along with your ability it would have been a bitch to deal with.
Thanatos on
0
NoneoftheaboveJust a conforming non-conformist.Twilight ZoneRegistered Userregular
edited March 2009
That was really a close game! I think I was the one responsible for humanity not winning sooner on the previous FTL jump. If I had just a few more cards we could have pulled it off. However for my first game I think I did really well with card usage and choices presented to me.
Thanks for the fun game everybody! Also, thank you for hosting Darian!
Pollo, if I had been you, I totally would have waited a turn or two to reveal, just using my ability to make it a bitch to get people out of the brig. Did you have the Quorum card that brigged someone? Because I really would have used that before I revealed, along with your ability it would have been a bitch to deal with.
That probably would have gone better. I just didn't want to pass up opportunities to mess with the fleet. I didn't get the brig quorum card, but I definitely would have used it if I had it.
Yeah, good game. Good to see the humans winning for once here on CF.
I must admit though, the humans had some pretty pro players this time around. I just wish I got my cylon card from the beginning rather than at sleeper phase, or just stayed human... But i'v always found cylon pilots harder to play than other types. Less of a chance to mess things up when i'm expected to be out in a Viper most of the time.
And, of course, lets hear it for Darian for running a smooth fun game.
Hippie on
0
El SkidThe frozen white northRegistered Userregular
edited March 2009
Definite thanks to Darian.
We wouldn't have been able to vanquish the evil Cylons without you!
Much thanks to the GM who aided us in our holy quest to defeat the abominable Cylons and their dark machinations. I apologize for being too awesome and always drawing attack cards.
We wouldn't have been able to vanquish the evil Cylons without you!
Pssh, everyone knows I'm rooting for the Cylons in these things. Just look at my avatar (thanks, Hellbunny!).
The crisis deck was ridiculous, though; every time Valkun's turn came back around, there was the next Cylon attack sitting right on top, waiting to be discarded.
Bottom 8 cards of the crisis deck, so these are the cards Valkun set aside or others scouted away (other people didn't scout much away):
Jump Computer Failure
7 Tactics, Engineering
Pass No Effect
Fail -1 population and move the fleet token 1 space towards the start of the Jump Preparation track.
(basestars launch raiders)
Tactical Strike
Instructions
1. Activate raiders
2. Setup:
1 basestar and 5 raiders at 7 o'clock
1 heavy raider at 9 o'clock
1 civilian at 1 o'clock
1 civilian at 3 o'clock
2 vipers 1 civilian at 5 o'clock
3. Special rule - Hangar Assault: Damage 2 vipers in the reserve
Surrounded
Instuctions:
1. Activate basestars
2. Setup:
1 basestar 11 o'clock
3 raiders and 1 heavy raider 1 o'clock
1 civilian 3 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian 5 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian 7 o'clock
4 raiders 9 o'clock
3. Special rule - Panic: The current player must discard 3 Skill Cards.
Rescue the Fleet
Admiral Chooses
-2 population
OR
-1 morale. Place 1 basestar and 3 raiders in front of Galactica and 3 civilian ships behind it.
(activate raiders)
(jump prep)
Heavy Assault
Setup: Base stars in front and 11 o'clock.
One viper at 7
Civilian ships at 7, 5, and 3.
Instructions:
1. Activate raiders.
2. Setup: 2 basestars, 1 viper, and 3 civ ships.
3. Special rule - Heavy Bombardment: Each basestar immediately attacks Galactica
Cylon Swarm
Instructions
1. Activate basestars
2. Setup:
1 basestar 5 raiders at 9 o'clock
1 heavy raider at 11 o'clock
1 civilian at 3 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian at 5 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian at 7 o'clock
3. Special Rule - Massive Deployment: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each time a basestar launches raiders or heavy raiders, it launches 1 additional ship of the same type.
Boarding Parties
Instructions
1. Activate heavy raiders
2. Setup:
1 basestar 4 raiders at 11 o'clock
2 heavy raiders at 1 o'clock
1 civilian at 3 o'clock
2 civilians at 5 o'clock
2 heavy raiders at 9 o'clock
3. Special rule - Surprise assault: There are no vipers in this setup.
Beseiged
Instructions
1. Activate raiders
2. Setup
1 basestar at 5 o'clock
2 vipers 1 civilian 4 raiders at 7 o'clock
1 civilian at 9 o'clock
1 civilian at 11 o'clock
1 heavy raider at 3 o'clock
3. Special rule - Heavy Casualties; The 4 raiders that were just setup are immediately activated.
Posts
Crisis!
Food Shortage
President Chooses
A. -2 food
OR
B. -1 food. The President discrds 2 Skill Cards; then the current player discards 3 Skill Cards
[strike](activate raiders)
(jump prep)[/strike]
Madame President, what is your choice? (The current player is moot; only you would be discarding.)
Also, Red-Eye discards:
President Chooses
-2 food
OR
-1 food. The President discrds 2 Skill Cards; then the current player discards 3 Skill Cards
(activate raiders)
(jump prep)
Edit: Is this the first human victory among the BSG PBP games?
Current Board Setup:
Players:
1. Valkun - President Laura Roslin - FTL Control - 2 cards in hand
2. Hippie - Lee "Red-Eye" Adama - Caprica - 5 cards in hand
3. El Skid - Karl "Helo" Agathon - Hangar Deck - 4 cards in hand
4. PolloDiablo - Tom Zarek - Caprica - 1 cards in hand
5. noneoftheabove - Admiral Galen "Chief" Tyrol - Weapons Control - 3 cards in hand
6. Thanatos - William "Husker" Adama - Communications- 2 cards in hand
Spoilered board is not updated; sorry Chief.
Resources:
Fuel 2. Food 3. Morale 1. Population 7
Jump Track: [Start][No Jump][No Jump]B][COLOR="Lime"]-3[/COLOR][/B[-1][Auto]
Distance Moved: 8
Boarding Party: Clear
Raptors: 1 In Reserve
Vipers: 2 in use, 6 in Reserve, 0 Damaged, 0 Destroyed
Nukes: 0
Quorum Hand: 2 cards
Galactica Damage: Admiral's Quarters
Space: Newly updated to reflect Bill's communications actions this turn
1 O'Clock: 2 Civilians (A and C)
3 O'Clock: 1 Basestar
5 O'Clock: 2 raiders,
7 O'Clock: 2 Raiders
9 O'Clock: 4 raiders,, 1 Civilian (B)
11 O'Clock: clear
Special rule: Training new pilots: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each unmanned viper suffers a -2 penalty to its attack rolls.
Bomb on Colonial 1 - Keep this card in play until the end of the game. Players may not move to or activate any locations on Colonial 1.
Ships in stock off the board: 8 raiders, 9 civilian ships
Turn Progress:
1. Receive Skills Step - 2 Leadership, 2 Tactics, 1 Piloting; shuffle piloting before draw and leadership after first card
2. Movement Step -
3. Action Step -
4. Crisis Step -
5. Activate Cylon Ships Step (if necessary) - none
6. Prepare for Jump Step (if necessary) - none
7. Discard and Check for Human Defeat.
Helo, how will you serve the fleet today?
What does this button do, I wonder.....
ACTIVATE FTL for the win!
Edit: I play SP on this one, because I FINALLY drew some 4+ ranked cards now that the game is over :P
Current Board Setup:
Players:
1. Valkun - President Laura Roslin - FTL Control - 2 cards in hand
2. Hippie - Lee "Red-Eye" Adama - Caprica - 5 cards in hand
3. El Skid - Karl "Helo" Agathon - Hangar Deck - 4 cards in hand
4. PolloDiablo - Tom Zarek - Caprica - 1 cards in hand
5. noneoftheabove - Admiral Galen "Chief" Tyrol - Weapons Control - 3 cards in hand
6. Thanatos - William "Husker" Adama - Communications- 2 cards in hand
Spoilered board is not updated; sorry Chief.
Resources:
Fuel 2. Food 3. Morale 1. Population 7
Jump Track: [Start][No Jump][No Jump]B][COLOR="Lime"]-3[/COLOR][/B[-1][Auto]
Distance Moved: 8
Boarding Party: Clear
Raptors: 1 In Reserve
Vipers: 2 in use, 6 in Reserve, 0 Damaged, 0 Destroyed
Nukes: 0
Quorum Hand: 2 cards
Galactica Damage: Admiral's Quarters
Space: Newly updated to reflect Bill's communications actions this turn
1 O'Clock: 2 Civilians (A and C)
3 O'Clock: 1 Basestar
5 O'Clock: 2 raiders,
7 O'Clock: 2 Raiders
9 O'Clock: 4 raiders,, 1 Civilian (B)
11 O'Clock: clear
Special rule: Training new pilots: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each unmanned viper suffers a -2 penalty to its attack rolls.
Bomb on Colonial 1 - Keep this card in play until the end of the game. Players may not move to or activate any locations on Colonial 1.
Ships in stock off the board: 8 raiders, 9 civilian ships
Turn Progress:
1. Receive Skills Step - 2 Leadership, 2 Tactics, 1 Piloting; shuffle piloting before draw and leadership after first card
2. Movement Step - move to FTL
3. Action Step - Push the big button to jump; Humans are victorious!
4. Crisis Step - skip
5. Activate Cylon Ships Step (if necessary) - none
6. Prepare for Jump Step (if necessary) - none
7. Discard and Check for Human Defeat.
Helo runs up to the bridge with this fantastic plan; he's finally figured out a safe location where the fleet can stop and rest for a while.
FTL activate, risk 3 pop (1d8+2=8); success, and the entire fleet makes the jump safely.
Humans are victorious, with no loss of civilian ships the entire game.
Also, opinions on the No Sympathizer variant? Feels like it still gave a close game and avoided the shenanigans/randomness of the regular Sympathizer version. What did all of you/observers think of how it played out?
I think I probably contributed to the human victory by being a very inept cylon. I was a toaster from the beginning, but I really overestimated how long it would take to jump along. The game was halfway over before I had done anything traitorous, so I just decided to be overt about it.
That was a lot of fun. Thanks for running it, Darian.
A (1 o'clock) 1 pop
B (9 o'clock) 1 pop
C (1 o'clock) 2 pop
The one you wanted would have been E in this latest shuffle: -1 population and -1 morale. But it didn't get placed. (Not that any civilian ships ever died, anyway.)
To me, balance means the fate is in the players' hands. If the losing players were doing everything right and still lost by a decent margin, then something might still need to be tweaked.
Congrats humans! You have given us hope that we might one day survive destruction at the hands of our own creations.
Pollo, if I had been you, I totally would have waited a turn or two to reveal, just using my ability to make it a bitch to get people out of the brig. Did you have the Quorum card that brigged someone? Because I really would have used that before I revealed, along with your ability it would have been a bitch to deal with.
Thanks for the fun game everybody! Also, thank you for hosting Darian!
That probably would have gone better. I just didn't want to pass up opportunities to mess with the fleet. I didn't get the brig quorum card, but I definitely would have used it if I had it.
I must admit though, the humans had some pretty pro players this time around. I just wish I got my cylon card from the beginning rather than at sleeper phase, or just stayed human... But i'v always found cylon pilots harder to play than other types. Less of a chance to mess things up when i'm expected to be out in a Viper most of the time.
And, of course, lets hear it for Darian for running a smooth fun game.
We wouldn't have been able to vanquish the evil Cylons without you!
Collusion!
I demand an inquirery!
:P:lol:
Much thanks to the GM who aided us in our holy quest to defeat the abominable Cylons and their dark machinations. I apologize for being too awesome and always drawing attack cards.
Pssh, everyone knows I'm rooting for the Cylons in these things. Just look at my avatar (thanks, Hellbunny!).
The crisis deck was ridiculous, though; every time Valkun's turn came back around, there was the next Cylon attack sitting right on top, waiting to be discarded.
Bottom 8 cards of the crisis deck, so these are the cards Valkun set aside or others scouted away (other people didn't scout much away):
7 Tactics, Engineering
Pass No Effect
Fail -1 population and move the fleet token 1 space towards the start of the Jump Preparation track.
(basestars launch raiders)
Tactical Strike
Instructions
1. Activate raiders
2. Setup:
1 basestar and 5 raiders at 7 o'clock
1 heavy raider at 9 o'clock
1 civilian at 1 o'clock
1 civilian at 3 o'clock
2 vipers 1 civilian at 5 o'clock
3. Special rule - Hangar Assault: Damage 2 vipers in the reserve
Surrounded
Instuctions:
1. Activate basestars
2. Setup:
1 basestar 11 o'clock
3 raiders and 1 heavy raider 1 o'clock
1 civilian 3 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian 5 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian 7 o'clock
4 raiders 9 o'clock
3. Special rule - Panic: The current player must discard 3 Skill Cards.
Rescue the Fleet
Admiral Chooses
-2 population
OR
-1 morale. Place 1 basestar and 3 raiders in front of Galactica and 3 civilian ships behind it.
(activate raiders)
(jump prep)
Heavy Assault
Setup: Base stars in front and 11 o'clock.
One viper at 7
Civilian ships at 7, 5, and 3.
Instructions:
1. Activate raiders.
2. Setup: 2 basestars, 1 viper, and 3 civ ships.
3. Special rule - Heavy Bombardment: Each basestar immediately attacks Galactica
Cylon Swarm
Instructions
1. Activate basestars
2. Setup:
1 basestar 5 raiders at 9 o'clock
1 heavy raider at 11 o'clock
1 civilian at 3 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian at 5 o'clock
1 viper 1 civilian at 7 o'clock
3. Special Rule - Massive Deployment: Keep this card in play until the fleet jumps. Each time a basestar launches raiders or heavy raiders, it launches 1 additional ship of the same type.
Boarding Parties
Instructions
1. Activate heavy raiders
2. Setup:
1 basestar 4 raiders at 11 o'clock
2 heavy raiders at 1 o'clock
1 civilian at 3 o'clock
2 civilians at 5 o'clock
2 heavy raiders at 9 o'clock
3. Special rule - Surprise assault: There are no vipers in this setup.
Beseiged
Instructions
1. Activate raiders
2. Setup
1 basestar at 5 o'clock
2 vipers 1 civilian 4 raiders at 7 o'clock
1 civilian at 9 o'clock
1 civilian at 11 o'clock
1 heavy raider at 3 o'clock
3. Special rule - Heavy Casualties; The 4 raiders that were just setup are immediately activated.