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  • My Name Is LukeMy Name Is Luke Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Oh man, that Amazon deal is really tempting for me. I've been wanting to check this game out for a while, and the Endurance Run videos on Giant Bomb are making me want it more.

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  • BarkeepBarkeep Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So... I might get myself a PS2 in the near future (:P), mostly because what I've found out about this series has had my mouth water (that, and God Hand). However, since I live in good ol' Europe, would it matter whether I get myself a PAL or NTSC PS2 with regards to avaliability? I mean, I can probably get hold of Nocturne and a good deal cheaper too, but will Devil Summoner be released back here, for instance? Or are there other cult classics I'll miss out on?

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    an_alt wrote: »
    Bok Choi wrote: »
    Like I said though, DDS2 is 40-70$ so I don't think I will be getting it any time soon unless I win a lucky auction or something.

    Ouch. I got DDS2 for something like $20 on eBay in good condition when DDS1 was going for $70 or so.

    So quick question for the end of P4 -
    I'm at 23.Dec with everything from quests to social links (except for Judgment) done. Do I miss anything by doing the final dungeon now or should I hold off for any reason?

    I'm pretty much just waiting to have a good day of uninterrupted time to finish the game. In the meantime I'm going to start a new game. Which of the following is the quickest to play, DS, DDS, or Nocturne?
    If you hold off much longer you'll die.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    elliotw2 wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    an_alt wrote: »
    Bok Choi wrote: »
    Like I said though, DDS2 is 40-70$ so I don't think I will be getting it any time soon unless I win a lucky auction or something.

    Ouch. I got DDS2 for something like $20 on eBay in good condition when DDS1 was going for $70 or so.

    So quick question for the end of P4 -
    I'm at 23.Dec with everything from quests to social links (except for Judgment) done. Do I miss anything by doing the final dungeon now or should I hold off for any reason?
    Go for it.

    I'm pretty much just waiting to have a good day of uninterrupted time to finish the game. In the meantime I'm going to start a new game. Which of the following is the quickest to play, DS, DDS, or Nocturne?


    Starting a new SMT while in the middle of another one isn't advisable. Finish P4 first.

    (But DS is definitely shortest)

    You could have told me this before I started Nocturne while in the middle of P4. Now I'm debating which to throw in every time I grab a controller

    Always side with Nocturne.
    Barkeep wrote:
    So... I might get myself a PS2 in the near future, mostly because what I've found out about this series has had my mouth water (that, and God Hand). However, since I live in good ol' Europe, would it matter whether I get myself a PAL or NTSC PS2 with regards to avaliability? I mean, I can probably get hold of Nocturne and a good deal cheaper too, but will Devil Summoner be released back here, for instance? Or are there other cult classics I'll miss out on?

    Seems like PAL got every PS2 SMT so far, so I can't see why you wouldn't get the new Devil Summoner also.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    A duck! wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    A duck! wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    No, but if you miss a spell it means you aren't going to knock down all the enemies and will probably get beat down.

    Except that they have to spend a turn getting back up. I usually leveled until my main was tired as well, and I don't remember ever suffering for doing it.
    ...What? o_O

    If you miss one, you aren't knocking it down, so it doesn't need to get back up.

    Edit: and that'll teach me to not refresh the page.

    Hurf durf I know that, but usually one enemy doesn't wipe my team. If I'm against one enemy that powerful I'd usually run anyways.

    Hurf durf yourself bucko. :lol: When you're sick, the enemy has a REALLY BIG CHANCE of critting you. Any enemy that crits your main twice is an enemy that is "that powerful"

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited February 2009
    Blackjack wrote: »
    A duck! wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    A duck! wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    No, but if you miss a spell it means you aren't going to knock down all the enemies and will probably get beat down.

    Except that they have to spend a turn getting back up. I usually leveled until my main was tired as well, and I don't remember ever suffering for doing it.
    ...What? o_O

    If you miss one, you aren't knocking it down, so it doesn't need to get back up.

    Edit: and that'll teach me to not refresh the page.

    Hurf durf I know that, but usually one enemy doesn't wipe my team. If I'm against one enemy that powerful I'd usually run anyways.

    Hurf durf yourself bucko. :lol: When you're sick, the enemy has a REALLY BIG CHANCE of critting you. Any enemy that crits your main twice is an enemy that is "that powerful"

    Which is why I said I got out of there when my main got sick?

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    A duck! wrote: »
    Which is why I said I got out of there when my main got sick?
    Well that's very special for you, but seeing as how my original comment was directed to Darklyre I'm not entirely sure what it has to do with anything.

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited February 2009
    Blackjack wrote: »
    A duck! wrote: »
    Which is why I said I got out of there when my main got sick?
    Well that's very special for you, but seeing as how my original comment was directed to Darklyre I'm not entirely sure what it has to do with anything.

    Seeing as how you're responding to my fucking quote tree where I said I do something similar, but not the same, you could at least bother to read it instead of having to cover your ass later.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Yeah, you're right. Clealry I didn't read your post.

    Which is how I was able to reply on topic to it.

    Multiple times.

    You're a fucking genius, man.

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited February 2009
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Yeah, you're right. Clealry I didn't read your post.

    Which is how I was able to reply on topic to it.

    Multiple times.

    You're a fucking genius, man.

    Yes, reply to it incorrectly. I apologize, oh great one, I should have cited your comprehension.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    It's okay, dude.

    You can stop.

    YOU'VE WON.

    Your e-peen is intact and mighty.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    What the everloving fuck are you two doing

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Foreplay.

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  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Yeah, a Ma-spell usually misses against a few enemies when my Main is sick. I make up for that by using single-target spells instead, for their higher accuracy rates. In addition, I prioritize nulling enemy attacks over having attacks against the enemy's weaknesses. It helps that P3 is much easier money-wise (at least on Normal) so I can use Revival items freely, whenever my allies get KOed by a Ma-spell.

    I think a lot of the differences in how we play also come down to persona fusing. Generally speaking, my fusions aim for Nulls/Resists/Evades for any weaknesses they have, plus as many different element attacks as I can possibly fit on, instead of going for buffs and such. It cuts down on the chance of an enemy hitting my weakpoint, and gives me a higher chance of not having to switch personas to knock them down.

    That said, I played P3 on Normal, because it was my first SMT game. Playing it on Hard would most likely change my strategies.

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  • elliotw2elliotw2 Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Wait, you can get sick from staying too long after tired?

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  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Oh shit, I haven't played P3 in so long that I accidentally said "sick" when I meant "tired."

    I'll level with the Main until all my allies are tired, but I won't actually enter Tartarus when I'm sick.

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  • Bebop7Bebop7 Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Now that I've already done it, it can't hurt me to tell everyone: If you own P4, order another copy off of Amazon and put your old one up on Goozex right away. It's trading at 800 points right now with a ton of requests and very little supply.

    This will help spread the Persona-lovin' to people with more Goozex points than cash. If you can survive with P4 for a week or two, there's nothing to lose!

    [If you don't know what Goozex is, [url=http://www.goozex.com/referral.asp?idr=564574194739]check it out![/url] (yes, it's a referral link)]

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  • Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    captaink wrote: »
    I triple hyphenated twice in two sentences. Whoa.

    You also double-posted in two posts. Well, you'd have to, that's what double means.

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  • Bok ChoiBok Choi Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Someone send me your copy of DDS2, I'll give you naked pics.

    I just don't want to spend 70$ now...
    But I need to know about Nirvana :(

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I do have two copies of the OST... I always keep one in the car, since it's that good.

    DDS2 really goes for $70 now?

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Bok Choi wrote: »
    Someone send me your copy of DDS2, I'll give you naked pics.

    I just don't want to spend 70$ now...
    But I need to know about Nirvana :(

    Did you make sure to make all the correct choices and fight every optional boss in DDS1? Well, aside from Demi-Fiend that is. When you get DDS2 you'll want to make sure you did those things for special bonuses. If you didn't, you can make the wait not seem as bad by going through again and doing that.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    Bok Choi wrote: »
    Someone send me your copy of DDS2, I'll give you naked pics.

    I just don't want to spend 70$ now...
    But I need to know about Nirvana :(

    Did you make sure to make all the correct choices and fight every optional boss in DDS1? Well, aside from Demi-Fiend that is. When you get DDS2 you'll want to make sure you did those things for special bonuses. If you didn't, you can make the wait not seem as bad by going through again and doing that.

    Beating Demi-Fiend in DDS1 should let you recruit Angel in 2 for all the trouble it requires.

    (And then it would all be worth it)

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  • Bok ChoiBok Choi Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    I do have two copies of the OST... I always keep one in the car, since it's that good.

    DDS2 really goes for $70 now?

    It goes for 40-70, its pricey.

    Also I did make all the right choices in DDS, but I still need to get the rings.

    But back on topic: sell me your DDS2 (or let me borrow it for a while).

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Bok Choi wrote: »
    Someone send me your copy of DDS2, I'll give you naked pics.

    I just don't want to spend 70$ now...
    But I need to know about Nirvana :(

    Did you make sure to make all the correct choices and fight every optional boss in DDS1? Well, aside from Demi-Fiend that is. When you get DDS2 you'll want to make sure you did those things for special bonuses. If you didn't, you can make the wait not seem as bad by going through again and doing that.

    Beating Demi-Fiend in DDS1 should let you recruit Angel in 2 for all the trouble it requires.

    (And then it would all be worth it)

    For the time it took me to do it I should've been able to use the Demi-Fiend himself for the other super boss. Like he'd show up, smirk, his eyes would glow red, and then the boss would be dead.

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  • RainbowDespairRainbowDespair Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I broke down. I just got SMT: Nocturne off of Goozex despite the fact that I've already owned it in the past. It's just that a good of a game and I'd like to see if I could finally beat the thing this time. Maybe not being insane and not choosing hard mode might be a good idea.

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  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Gilder wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Gilder wrote: »
    Bok Choi wrote: »
    Someone send me your copy of DDS2, I'll give you naked pics.

    I just don't want to spend 70$ now...
    But I need to know about Nirvana :(

    Did you make sure to make all the correct choices and fight every optional boss in DDS1? Well, aside from Demi-Fiend that is. When you get DDS2 you'll want to make sure you did those things for special bonuses. If you didn't, you can make the wait not seem as bad by going through again and doing that.

    Beating Demi-Fiend in DDS1 should let you recruit Angel in 2 for all the trouble it requires.

    (And then it would all be worth it)

    For the time it took me to do it I should've been able to use the Demi-Fiend himself for the other super boss. Like he'd show up, smirk, his eyes would glow red, and then the boss would be dead.

    That....would have been AWESOME.

    I'm playing through P3 a second time (no idea why in the world I did that with the backlog I have) on hard mode, and I'm on the last month, In Monad. I figure that since I've already paid my dues, I'm going to Armageddon whore myself to 99 (Satan with Victory Cry and Invigorate 3 ftw).

    So yeah, even in Hard Mode, I don't die that much. Except when I forget Satan is weak to wind. And I'm on floor 7 of Monad. With some good crap I picked up from shiny gold chests in earlier floors. And I miss getting a back attack on the shadow. And in the game's wisdom it decides to use that time to say "hey here's an enemy advantage!" and I get Magarudyned. Four times. Somehow I dodge two of them, my idol ressurects me on the third...alas, those gold boxes were not meant to be.

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  • SyphyreSyphyre A Dangerous Pastime Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Darklyre wrote: »
    [snip]
    I usually fought bosses with a fresh party, so in-battle healing wasn't a big problem, especially since I never really needed to heal in a random battle. Accuracy is meh, since you should rarely use physical attacks in P3 anyways. Damage was fine as long as I knocked them all down and did all-out attacks. Enemy crit chance could usually be negated by getting the first strike.

    I beg to differ. Siegfried with Vorpal Blade will get you through 90% of the 4th/5th block. Hell, Deathbound has such a high critical rate that will do as well. And if you manage to get a Siegfried with Akasha Arts (hi Melchizedek!), well then...(btw that other 10%? Alice and dude with Samsara)

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm sorry if this has (and it very likely has) been asked before, but...

    I'm doin' P4 and one of my first-stringers has Counter (10%), and after the last skill gained I noticed the next skill was another Counter skill for 15%. I'm wondering, if I take both skills do I end up with a 25% chance to counter, or do they not stack?

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Chance wrote: »
    I'm sorry if this has (and it very likely has) been asked before, but...

    I'm doin' P4 and one of my first-stringers has Counter (10%), and after the last skill gained I noticed the next skill was another Counter skill for 15%. I'm wondering, if I take both skills do I end up with a 25% chance to counter, or do they not stack?
    They don't.

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  • ChanceChance Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ah tyvm :^: you just saved me a skill slot.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Starting a new SMT while in the middle of another one isn't advisable. Finish P4 first.

    (But DS is definitely shortest)

    I do get what you're saying, but I've been putting off finishing P4 since December so I can finish it in peace. Our time I mean, not game time.

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  • EmonkEmonk __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Is the bonus dungeon in P2: EP worth it? After finishing P2: IS I definitely want to play through the storyline at least one time, but I'm not sure if I'm ready for more than one go.

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  • ScrabbleDudeScrabbleDude Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I just listened to the Retronauts on Persona and now I want to play some SMT games. I've already got Nocturne, but failed very early on in my attempt to play it. Should I start again with that, or do you guys recommend jumping in with Persona 3 or Persona 4?

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I just listened to the Retronauts on Persona and now I want to play some SMT games. I've already got Nocturne, but failed very early on in my attempt to play it. Should I start again with that, or do you guys recommend jumping in with Persona 3 or Persona 4?

    Nocturne is the best of the series, but its minimalist style and heavy grind take getting used to.
    If you really have a problem, do indeed try a Persona first.

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  • EmperorSethEmperorSeth Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Is anyone else still following the Giant Bomb endurance run of Persona 4? Today's update was the first with free-flowing gameplay, and they fought the Chie boss. With Yosuke's commands still on automatic. They still won, but ouch, the tactics were painful.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Well, the sale is over. I hope someone took advantage of it.

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    My local Sears still has two copies of Persona 3, unopened. I'm sorta tempted to buy both, give one to my sister for her birthday and put the other in storage.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    GAF is reporting that Atlus PR confirmed the Persona 1 remake for North America this fall! <3
    IRVINE, CALIFORNIA - FEBRUARY 24, 2009 - Atlus U.S.A., Inc, today announced that Shin Megami Tensei: Persona for PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) system, a remake of the first entry in the critically-acclaimed RPG series, will be released in North America within the calendar year. SMT: Persona stands as a proud relaunch for the award-winning series, featuring a completely redone localization and content never before seen in North America. Combined with gameplay enhancements and additions new to the remake, fans will have the chance to experience the first Persona game released in North America in a whole new way. Those looking to see the original epic in a whole new light, those who missed out the first time around, and even those PSP system owners who crave a marquee RPG: that which you seek is approaching.

    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona is currently scheduled to release this fall.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    In news unrelated to that in any way whatsoever, I believe I have to buy a PSP.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Judging by the 'leak this' comment, I have a feeling they rushed that press release to avoid someone getting a head start.

    Yu Namba must be one busy guy right now(since he's been the project lead of every US SMT, and they have three games in the works right now).

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