It might also have to do with research and judgment calls. Mogo (and Ranx) are both sentient beings capable of making rational decisions. The rings, with their basic programming, just follow a pre-set directive. It might be that Mogo is able to discern if a person is qualified to be a lantern based on other criteria outside of the basic ability to overcome fear that the rings look for.
It might also have to do with research and judgment calls. Mogo (and Ranx) are both sentient beings capable of making rational decisions. The rings, with their basic programming, just follow a pre-set directive. It might be that Mogo is able to discern if a person is qualified to be a lantern based on other criteria outside of the basic ability to overcome fear that the rings look for.
This would be reasonable, AND would justify not needing such a device for the other cops: the more the ring controls the person (e.g. rage, love) the less the actual details of the ringbearer matter.
It may be that only Yellow/Green/Blue really need a distribution system. For orange it's somewhat moot, and we've yet to see what the deal is with Indigo since they don't even have 'rings' per se.
I think Mogo has been a green lantern for a long time, maybe as long as the Guardians have, since the creation of the GLC. Since Mogo sends out rings to new members.
I dont get the Mogo ring deal. Sinestro Corps sends there's out no problems. Red Lanterns fly out at will. Blue one took off on its own after Hal lost it. Black is all up ons now. Star Sapphires were seen floating about on their own too. Why the heck are the GL rings so gimped in comparison that if Mogo dies, the corps is dead in the water?
I thought Ranx the Sentient City directed out Sinestro Corps rings? Additionally, we really don't know enough about the other corps to know if they don't have something in charge of ring distribution.
Correct re: Ranx. I think, in fact, we should presume there is some member of each corps doing so. The rings have always been depicted as being able to search out new candidates in their immediate area; the problem is the long-range searching, at least so it seems.
Ranx had nothing to do with Sinestro ring distribution. He was just there for planet vs city action between him and Mogo. When Sodam yat destroyed Ranx, the rings still distributed non-stop throughout the SCW. Lethal force had just been enabled and people died all the time, rings were always seeing new people. It even had Scarecrow almost receiving one across the galaxy when Amon died on some backwater planet no where near Earth.
My guess is they decided to not bother explaining it and the rings just do what they do no questions asked. We havent even seen Mogo in the past year or so, so probably not even a major plotpoint anymore.
Ranx had nothing to do with Sinestro ring distribution. He was just there for planet vs city action between him and Mogo. When Sodam yat destroyed Ranx, the rings still distributed non-stop throughout the SCW. Lethal force had just been enabled and people died all the time, rings were always seeing new people. It even had Scarecrow almost receiving one across the galaxy when Amon died on some backwater planet no where near Earth.
My guess is they decided to not bother explaining it and the rings just do what they do no questions asked. We havent even seen Mogo in the past year or so, so probably not even a major plotpoint anymore.
You might be right about this Kirk, but I swear there was a line in GLC about Sinestro Corps rings not being able to find new bearers because of Ranx being destroyed.
as little as it was, i liked that Johns took the time to clear up something that didn't make sense earlier in his run in issue #43
the Gremlins from issues 4, 5, and 6 that harassed Hammond, the Shark, and Black Hand are apparently "starlings," the mini-henchmen of Evil Star. this doesn't exactly jive with how the alien GLs identified them at the end of issue #6, but that could easily be explained as Evil Star is hunting for some new talent.
that really really really weird subplot with Carol / Star Sapphire in the late 80s
remember for awhile Carol was turning into a man anti-hero and running around. Later Star Sapphire and the man fused together and revealed themselves to be two sides of the same coin living within Carol.
In the 90s that man came back and uh was an alien parasite or something and invaded Arisia for awhile but was still connected to Carol and the Star Sapphire
well i admire Johns' attempt at internal consistency within the GL mythos and his attempt to suggest the multi-colored Corps has been there since the very beginning.
Predator turned out to be an ancient alien demon parasite from Maltus that had an obsession with the Star Sapphire. that fits pretty well with Parallax's origins and the Predator/stalker/obsession angle fits nicely with what has been shown of the Sapphire's view of love so far.
It might also have to do with research and judgment calls. Mogo (and Ranx) are both sentient beings capable of making rational decisions. The rings, with their basic programming, just follow a pre-set directive. It might be that Mogo is able to discern if a person is qualified to be a lantern based on other criteria outside of the basic ability to overcome fear that the rings look for.
What about Qward? There might be some being on Qward that handles ring distribution.
Man, Qward is such a weird outlier now; before, it made sense for the Sinestro Corps to be in the antimatter universe since it was opposed to the GLC, but now it seems weird for them to be in a whole separate universe.
You know as well as i do that it'll be a giant sentient vagina that will end up devouring mogo.
I was this close to making a red lantern/raging hardon joke, but I thought it was a bit lowbrow and that you guys would expect more.
How could you possibly think that immediately after the joke about a giant sentient space vagina?
Personally i'm just suprised nobody thought of the obvious conclusion to that storyline: Mogo performs the ping pong ball trick on a galactic scale.
edit: in fact we can use it to provide character development for Hal, he can flash back to a shore leave trip in Singapore and use that to inspire Mogo, with a Construct Diagram of course.
is it said somewhere that kyle can't have both a green and blue ring? cause that seems like the most obvious route to me.
He can have both when all the Guardians are dead.... so heres hoping.
psycojester on
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
0
Gabriel_Pitt(effective against Russian warships)Registered Userregular
edited July 2009
I was just struck by the thought that it would be really awesome if the GL rings themselves started telling the Guardians to fuck off, impossible as that may actually be.
I was just struck by the thought that it would be really awesome if the GL rings themselves started telling the Guardians to fuck off, impossible as that may actually be.
Hahaha, that would be just about the greatest comic moment ever.
* Not sure if its been something I just never knew about, but they did reveal that Violet also has a Avatar, named Predator. So I guess each color has its own Avatar of Color.
* I think these Avatars of Colors are going to be the writer's way of having Blackest Night be Corp-On-Corp-Warfare, while also being Every-Corp-Against-Black: You have the Avatars realize how bad the Black Lantern Light is, and agree to collectively work with someone who has had influence with all seven colors (aka Hal), even while their respective Corps are beating the shit out of each other.
For some reason, I see Hal being surprised that the Red Avatar would be so willing to assist him in defeating the Black, and it saying in return "I am the embodiment of Rage... NOT STUPIDITY."
* Black Hand killing himself creeped me out. I think it was because the light from the weapon was shining through his eyes at the time. EEeech.
Somebody needs to slap the shit out of the Guardians, and I'm guessing it'll be the Black Hand and his horde of Inferi. I'm not feeling too sorry for them.
Somebody needs to slap the shit out of the Guardians
I know they will. The question is, how long (or how many bizzare laws they make) before:
- Hal and the rest of the Human Lanterns realizes that the GoTE are jerks and shouldn't be followed
- The reast of the GLC realizes that Hal and the rest of the Human Lanterns are right and work with them?
My guess is, it won't take much for Hal and the rest of the Human Lanterns to figure it out, but it'll take one of the Seriously Off Base New Laws (my guess is, either Being A Member Of A Non-Green Lantern Corp Is Illegal, Not Ratting Out A Member Of A Non-Green Lantern Corp Is Illegal, or Knowing A Member Of A Non-Green Lantern Corp Is Illegal) that make everyone else realize that the Blue Guys need a swift nut-punch.
I loved the scene with BH receiving the ring. The very simple "Rise" with the panel of the ring seemingly lifting BH up was awesome.
Agreed.
No reason to rattle off a space-sector number when anyone who's dead qualifies for a black ring.
The word 'Rise' actually reminds me of the epilogue of the Sinestro Corps. War, when the Anti-Monitor landed on whatever planet that is. A voice said 'Rise' to cause the Black Lantern to form around him. I wonder what the actual purpose of the Black Lantern is, beyond being a 'tomb' for the Anti-Monitor.
I've been considering picking up Blackest Night, just the main book and no tie-ins, but I hear BN is the last part of Geoff Johns GL-themed trilogy with GL: Rebirth being part 1 and SCW being part two. I'm not worried about going in blind for Rebirth but is it a good idea to read the GL and GLC issues leading up to SCW? I know it's always a good idea to read the build up stuff but is it kinda required for SCW?
And I hope I didn't annoy anyone with all the abbreviations.
wirehead26 on
I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
0
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited July 2009
LOLZ NP OK?
Anyways, the GLC lead in to SCW isn't really necessary.
GL's lead-in was more about bringing back the lost lanterns, not so much the Sinestro Corps (it brings back the Manhunters). There were pages in each issue that showed people like Arkillo being drafted into the Sinestro Corps. Those might be in the SCW trades (I would think so)
All the information you would need would be in the Sinestro Corps War one-shot that kicked off the event, it set up the story rather well.
I loved the scene with BH receiving the ring. The very simple "Rise" with the panel of the ring seemingly lifting BH up was awesome.
Agreed.
No reason to rattle off a space-sector number when anyone who's dead qualifies for a black ring.
The word 'Rise' actually reminds me of the epilogue of the Sinestro Corps. War, when the Anti-Monitor landed on whatever planet that is. A voice said 'Rise' to cause the Black Lantern to form around him. I wonder what the actual purpose of the Black Lantern is, beyond being a 'tomb' for the Anti-Monitor.
The Black Lantern is probably the mechanism they're using to harness the power of the Anti-Monitor and feed it out to the Black Lantern rings
Thanks for the info Texiken, you've saved me from buying even more tpb's than I already get. One last thing about Blackest Night though. Would it be fair to call this story Geoff Johns "magnum opus"? I know Infinite Crisis was epic on a cosmic level but this seems more epic on an overall level which technically doesn't make sense but try to follow me.
wirehead26 on
I'M NOT FINISHED WITH YOU!!!
0
TexiKenDammit!That fish really got me!Registered Userregular
edited July 2009
If the series attempts to fix the revolving door of death (or at least slow it down), and DC doesn't do a complete cop out like they did with Batman RIP, then it has the potential to be Geoff's best work. The trouble is, everyone saw how it morphed from a GL event into the next big DCU event, and that the story might be affected because of that.
Even if it's affecting the whole DCU, everything that matters is still happening in the GL books, so I think the integrity of the story is still intact.
If the series attempts to fix the revolving door of death (or at least slow it down), and DC doesn't do a complete cop out like they did with Batman RIP, then it has the potential to be Geoff's best work. The trouble is, everyone saw how it morphed from a GL event into the next big DCU event, and that the story might be affected because of that.
My problem is that the villains are no longer at all compelling, but I'm interested to see where this goes.
Posts
This would be reasonable, AND would justify not needing such a device for the other cops: the more the ring controls the person (e.g. rage, love) the less the actual details of the ringbearer matter.
It may be that only Yellow/Green/Blue really need a distribution system. For orange it's somewhat moot, and we've yet to see what the deal is with Indigo since they don't even have 'rings' per se.
According to William Hand (GL #43)
SPOILER
Ranx had nothing to do with Sinestro ring distribution. He was just there for planet vs city action between him and Mogo. When Sodam yat destroyed Ranx, the rings still distributed non-stop throughout the SCW. Lethal force had just been enabled and people died all the time, rings were always seeing new people. It even had Scarecrow almost receiving one across the galaxy when Amon died on some backwater planet no where near Earth.
My guess is they decided to not bother explaining it and the rings just do what they do no questions asked. We havent even seen Mogo in the past year or so, so probably not even a major plotpoint anymore.
You might be right about this Kirk, but I swear there was a line in GLC about Sinestro Corps rings not being able to find new bearers because of Ranx being destroyed.
yeah!
and it just fucking hit me where that is from
that really really really weird subplot with Carol / Star Sapphire in the late 80s
remember for awhile Carol was turning into a man anti-hero and running around. Later Star Sapphire and the man fused together and revealed themselves to be two sides of the same coin living within Carol.
In the 90s that man came back and uh was an alien parasite or something and invaded Arisia for awhile but was still connected to Carol and the Star Sapphire
that man was named Predator!
Predator turned out to be an ancient alien demon parasite from Maltus that had an obsession with the Star Sapphire. that fits pretty well with Parallax's origins and the Predator/stalker/obsession angle fits nicely with what has been shown of the Sapphire's view of love so far.
I can dig it.
The avatar should be Space AIDS.
I was this close to making a red lantern/raging hardon joke, but I thought it was a bit lowbrow and that you guys would expect more.
How could you possibly think that immediately after the joke about a giant sentient space vagina?
What about Qward? There might be some being on Qward that handles ring distribution.
You mean in Agent Orange or the actual latest issue where the Guardians dont even appear (outside Scar)? Either way, they are dicks.
Personally i'm just suprised nobody thought of the obvious conclusion to that storyline: Mogo performs the ping pong ball trick on a galactic scale.
edit: in fact we can use it to provide character development for Hal, he can flash back to a shore leave trip in Singapore and use that to inspire Mogo, with a Construct Diagram of course.
The Agent Orange issue, specifically the part where they tell Larfleeze where the Blue Lantern home planet is.
He can have both when all the Guardians are dead.... so heres hoping.
Hahaha, that would be just about the greatest comic moment ever.
* I think these Avatars of Colors are going to be the writer's way of having Blackest Night be Corp-On-Corp-Warfare, while also being Every-Corp-Against-Black: You have the Avatars realize how bad the Black Lantern Light is, and agree to collectively work with someone who has had influence with all seven colors (aka Hal), even while their respective Corps are beating the shit out of each other.
For some reason, I see Hal being surprised that the Red Avatar would be so willing to assist him in defeating the Black, and it saying in return "I am the embodiment of Rage... NOT STUPIDITY."
* Black Hand killing himself creeped me out. I think it was because the light from the weapon was shining through his eyes at the time. EEeech.
I know they will. The question is, how long (or how many bizzare laws they make) before:
- Hal and the rest of the Human Lanterns realizes that the GoTE are jerks and shouldn't be followed
- The reast of the GLC realizes that Hal and the rest of the Human Lanterns are right and work with them?
My guess is, it won't take much for Hal and the rest of the Human Lanterns to figure it out, but it'll take one of the Seriously Off Base New Laws (my guess is, either Being A Member Of A Non-Green Lantern Corp Is Illegal, Not Ratting Out A Member Of A Non-Green Lantern Corp Is Illegal, or Knowing A Member Of A Non-Green Lantern Corp Is Illegal) that make everyone else realize that the Blue Guys need a swift nut-punch.
Agreed.
The word 'Rise' actually reminds me of the epilogue of the Sinestro Corps. War, when the Anti-Monitor landed on whatever planet that is. A voice said 'Rise' to cause the Black Lantern to form around him. I wonder what the actual purpose of the Black Lantern is, beyond being a 'tomb' for the Anti-Monitor.
And I hope I didn't annoy anyone with all the abbreviations.
Anyways, the GLC lead in to SCW isn't really necessary.
GL's lead-in was more about bringing back the lost lanterns, not so much the Sinestro Corps (it brings back the Manhunters). There were pages in each issue that showed people like Arkillo being drafted into the Sinestro Corps. Those might be in the SCW trades (I would think so)
All the information you would need would be in the Sinestro Corps War one-shot that kicked off the event, it set up the story rather well.
The Black Lantern is probably the mechanism they're using to harness the power of the Anti-Monitor and feed it out to the Black Lantern rings
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
I just finished reading GLC Recharge, the first 2 volumes of GLC, the 2 volumes of the Sinestro Corp War, and Tales of the Sinestro Corp TPBs.
Now I need to get the GL TPBs that led up to the war, and then I can start getting the post-SCW stuff to lead into Blackest Night.
Thank god for Buy 2 get 1 free on DC Trade Paperbacks at Books a Million
Got all 6 of those for $50.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation