I've been really enjoying my undead hunter but I hope they plan to adjust the animations a bit, especially guns.
I can't see how throwing their left leg back with every shot could be intended. Bows are fine, the string just gets pulled kinda funny. Haven't tried crossbows yet.
So, what is everyone using for their rotations? My dps still feels a bit lackluster, I think I'm still not really using the focus system that well. In dungeons, I end up not using black arrow unless it's a larger mob that I expect to live for a bit, so it's basically serpent, explosive, cobra x2, explosive, cobra x2... do I need more haste so that I don't always have to do 2 cobras to get enough focus to hit another explosive shot? Or maybe my gear doesn't have enough mastery on it? Still feel a bit at sea with these changes.
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So is there any truth to the people posting about how horrible hunters are at 85 in pvp? Seems people are complaining about burst not being enough to kill people now (with starter gear) and focus is regenning to slowly to finish anything? Just wondering what 'normal' folk thought.
It's... pretty bad. Our burst got decimated, probably because most people are at like 10% crit, and focus starvation is an issue. Fox allows us to move and cast steady/cobra, but that doesn't mean anything if someone gets into our melee range; if anything, it hurts more, because those failed casts are eating opportunities to throw out the odd arcane shot.
It's the old standby, has a history of being easy and efficient for leveling. Very good still, but I find that Survival could also match up to it. The difference is, your pet wont be holding aggro off of you too easy.
For the most part any spec will be fine. Let your pet make the first attack and be sure growl is on. You may pull aggro, but the mob will die before he hits you more than once.
BM is less important as a leveling spec in Cata due to losing all the passive pet buff talents (although it is certainly still a good spec for that).
BM with a tenacity pet is still probably the best spec for being able to solo group quests/elites, but other than that, they all work pretty well now that you don't have to worry about mana.
I have played many a hunter, this is the first time i ever felt super giddy though. Energy and Explosive shot is pure liquid distilled hax. Blowing away half a critters hp and then killing them before my pet even touches them is fantastic. I just adore everything about the hunter changes so far. Also managed to get the rare shadowclaw as my pet. But after jumping in here I want that turtle now.
I just find that black arrow is never worth firing at a mob, because it's cool down makes it useful only in every other or every third pull, it makes it so I can't use my explosive trap that fight, and its damage per tick is so fairly low. The mob usually dies before it can tick half its duration.
Even your typical pulls of "one or two big guys" usually live long enough to be worth using BA. Or, hell, fire it at the second kill target then switch to the first. It'll definitely get all its ticks off.
For the most part any spec will be fine. Let your pet make the first attack and be sure growl is on. You may pull aggro, but the mob will die before he hits you more than once.
BM is less important as a leveling spec in Cata due to losing all the passive pet buff talents (although it is certainly still a good spec for that).
Blizzard has tuned and talented pets to the point that spec doesn't matter as much. As long as you install a Threat meter like Omen, you'll be fine. In fact, I recommend you respec periodically to feel how the other specs play out.
Once you get to 76, use the Misdirection glyph and you can use any spec you want into Cata.
So, what is everyone using for their rotations? My dps still feels a bit lackluster, I think I'm still not really using the focus system that well. In dungeons, I end up not using black arrow unless it's a larger mob that I expect to live for a bit, so it's basically serpent, explosive, cobra x2, explosive, cobra x2... do I need more haste so that I don't always have to do 2 cobras to get enough focus to hit another explosive shot? Or maybe my gear doesn't have enough mastery on it? Still feel a bit at sea with these changes.
Are you not throwing out traps? On normal pulls that don't require cc I'd toss out an ice trap and explosive trap at the beginning, especially if you're not planning on using black arrow. Explosive trap works really well with lock and load.
SPI is right, but I'll throw more specifics out there. He pats from the southeat, up to northeast, and over to northwest. There's essentially a lower and a higher area. The higher one is on the west. He basically pats along the lower east area. He's pretty big and his NPC ID is: 50058.
All that said, I was also able to grab Madexx in his blue skin. I named him "PinchyHoto"
He comes in a few diff colors, and I was able to snag blue. He is basically a giant scorpion in north Uldum. Below are his NPC IDs.
What is a good rotation for a BM hunter. I usually open with Scorpid Sting > Arcane Spam > Cobra > Steady > Arcane Spam.
Also, is there a macro to automatically set whichever pet I have out as my focus instead of targeting him. Every time I mount or hearth my focus keeps reseting.
What is a good rotation for a BM hunter. I usually open with Scorpid Sting > Arcane Spam > Cobra > Steady > Arcane Spam.
Also, is there a macro to automatically set whichever pet I have out as my focus instead of targeting him. Every time I mount or hearth my focus keeps reseting.
Don't know the particular rotation / priority, but Kill Command is the staple ability for BM and you shouldn't use steady at all (MM is the only spec that should use steady instead of cobra). And you should use Serpent sting
So I got sucked back into this game by a friend who is more stubborn than I (6 months of "So you coming back to WoW yet?")
Wanted to make a Worgen and thought for some reason that I could make a Shaman. Couldn't, and already had a druid so I figured I would make a Hunter since I've never played one. Gotta say it's been a pretty easy ride thus far.
Hit 33 today and I'm just getting into the swing of my rotations etc. Haven't really had to use either of my traps since my current strategy of: Send pet, mark with hunter's mark, charge Steady shot. Pet hits mob, steady shot fires, fire arcane, trigger kill command, fire one more arcane: Seems to be taking out pretty much everything I fight that isn't an elite.
So far I'm collecting random pets I find that are interesting but don't know if I should be on the lookout for anything in particular. I have a tallstrider (blue silver elite I found wandering Darkshore) A Turtle (red one from the Deeps instance) A bird of prey (Eagle from Stonetalon) and a Cat (some sort of spotted panther thing from stone talon)
I'm digging that fact that each specializes in a certain area and that they have their own special abilities (Cat one is a little OP in my mind considering the damage output)
Are there any pets that have noteworthy abilities I should be making sure that I add to my collection as I travel around?
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What is a good rotation for a BM hunter. I usually open with Scorpid Sting > Arcane Spam > Cobra > Steady > Arcane Spam.
Also, is there a macro to automatically set whichever pet I have out as my focus instead of targeting him. Every time I mount or hearth my focus keeps reseting.
Don't know the particular rotation / priority, but Kill Command is the staple ability for BM and you shouldn't use steady at all (MM is the only spec that should use steady instead of cobra). And you should use Serpent sting
Steady Shot does more damage than Cobra Shot though, even as a BM hunter. Unless you need to refresh your sting (which on most mobs you aren't even going to be using) use Steady Shot.
What is a good rotation for a BM hunter. I usually open with Scorpid Sting > Arcane Spam > Cobra > Steady > Arcane Spam.
Also, is there a macro to automatically set whichever pet I have out as my focus instead of targeting him. Every time I mount or hearth my focus keeps reseting.
Don't know the particular rotation / priority, but Kill Command is the staple ability for BM and you shouldn't use steady at all (MM is the only spec that should use steady instead of cobra). And you should use Serpent sting
Steady Shot does more damage than Cobra Shot though, even as a BM hunter. Unless you need to refresh your sting (which on most mobs you aren't even going to be using) use Steady Shot.
Cobra Shot, not being physical damage, ignores armor (whereas Steady's damage is reduced). All the theorycrafting I have seen so far has been consistent: Cobra for BM/SV, Steady for MM.
Alright so as BM, Cobra IS a replacement for Steady? Also if someone could be so kind as to link your 85 BM build, that'd be much appreciated. I can't seem to find any official guide on what's recommended.
Thanks for all the help guys and gals. I ended up macroing kill command to all my shots again. Now i just spam arcane until I am out of focus then use cobra to bring it up. It has been working great and things are falling much quicker now (also, I properly glyphed).
Also, about my second question. I researched a bit and I believe I found the macro. It will cast misdirect on your pet. Very helpful with the MD glyph.
Thanks for all the help guys and gals. I ended up macroing kill command to all my shots again. Now i just spam arcane until I am out of focus then use cobra to bring it up. It has been working great and things are falling much quicker now (also, I properly glyphed).
Err, how does that work? KC is on the GCD now, so how are you macroing it to other abilities?
Thanks for all the help guys and gals. I ended up macroing kill command to all my shots again. Now i just spam arcane until I am out of focus then use cobra to bring it up. It has been working great and things are falling much quicker now (also, I properly glyphed).
Err, how does that work? KC is on the GCD now, so how are you macroing it to other abilities?
If its avail, it'll cast first before the shot. He won't have to watch for it to cool down, just apply face and roll.
Thanks for all the help guys and gals. I ended up macroing kill command to all my shots again. Now i just spam arcane until I am out of focus then use cobra to bring it up. It has been working great and things are falling much quicker now (also, I properly glyphed).
Err, how does that work? KC is on the GCD now, so how are you macroing it to other abilities?
If its avail, it'll cast first before the shot. He won't have to watch for it to cool down, just apply face and roll.
Pretty much.
/cast Kill Command
/cast Arcane Shot
If kill command is available it will cast it, if not it will shoot arcane or any other shot you attach to it.
I still don't understand how that works. As far as I know, for at least a couple years you haven't been able to set up a priority macro like that unless only one of the abilities is on a GCD. I think the "macro parsing logic" goes:
- Can I cast Kill Command? Yes? Do it (GCD goes off so that macro press isn't doing anything else).
- Can I cast Kill Command? No? Then I'm done.
Is KC not on the GCD or something? Because I could swear it was as of 4.0.
Edit: Unless there's some crazy weird exception with KC due to the way it's not a direct ability and just sets the pet off to do something.
Thanks for all the help guys and gals. I ended up macroing kill command to all my shots again. Now i just spam arcane until I am out of focus then use cobra to bring it up. It has been working great and things are falling much quicker now (also, I properly glyphed).
Also, about my second question. I researched a bit and I believe I found the macro. It will cast misdirect on your pet. Very helpful with the MD glyph.
I'll try and remember to post my macro when I get home, it casts MD on my target if I have one, on my focus if target is hostile, and on my pet if I don't have a focus. I always focus the tank in groups, so it works quite well.
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I can't see how throwing their left leg back with every shot could be intended. Bows are fine, the string just gets pulled kinda funny. Haven't tried crossbows yet.
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Talent Trees? Beast Mastery is a good one, I leveled my Hunter all the way up to 70 as Survival however and found it fun.
BM is less important as a leveling spec in Cata due to losing all the passive pet buff talents (although it is certainly still a good spec for that).
Edit: Outside of raid context, that is.
I just find that black arrow is never worth firing at a mob, because it's cool down makes it useful only in every other or every third pull, it makes it so I can't use my explosive trap that fight, and its damage per tick is so fairly low. The mob usually dies before it can tick half its duration.
Black Arrow is fantastic on boss fights.
I'm worgen if that matters.
You need to read the thread, man:
Blizzard has tuned and talented pets to the point that spec doesn't matter as much. As long as you install a Threat meter like Omen, you'll be fine. In fact, I recommend you respec periodically to feel how the other specs play out.
Once you get to 76, use the Misdirection glyph and you can use any spec you want into Cata.
Are you not throwing out traps? On normal pulls that don't require cc I'd toss out an ice trap and explosive trap at the beginning, especially if you're not planning on using black arrow. Explosive trap works really well with lock and load.
So like ice trap -->lnl --> explosive shot --> explosive trap/black arrow --> explosive shot --> serpent sting/multishot -->explosive shot --> cobra --> etc
Where?!
All that said, I was also able to grab Madexx in his blue skin. I named him "PinchyHoto"
He comes in a few diff colors, and I was able to snag blue. He is basically a giant scorpion in north Uldum. Below are his NPC IDs.
Madexx: 51404
Madexx: 51403
Madexx: 51401
Madexx: 50154
Madexx: 51402
What is a good rotation for a BM hunter. I usually open with Scorpid Sting > Arcane Spam > Cobra > Steady > Arcane Spam.
Also, is there a macro to automatically set whichever pet I have out as my focus instead of targeting him. Every time I mount or hearth my focus keeps reseting.
Don't know the particular rotation / priority, but Kill Command is the staple ability for BM and you shouldn't use steady at all (MM is the only spec that should use steady instead of cobra). And you should use Serpent sting
Wanted to make a Worgen and thought for some reason that I could make a Shaman. Couldn't, and already had a druid so I figured I would make a Hunter since I've never played one. Gotta say it's been a pretty easy ride thus far.
Hit 33 today and I'm just getting into the swing of my rotations etc. Haven't really had to use either of my traps since my current strategy of: Send pet, mark with hunter's mark, charge Steady shot. Pet hits mob, steady shot fires, fire arcane, trigger kill command, fire one more arcane: Seems to be taking out pretty much everything I fight that isn't an elite.
So far I'm collecting random pets I find that are interesting but don't know if I should be on the lookout for anything in particular. I have a tallstrider (blue silver elite I found wandering Darkshore) A Turtle (red one from the Deeps instance) A bird of prey (Eagle from Stonetalon) and a Cat (some sort of spotted panther thing from stone talon)
I'm digging that fact that each specializes in a certain area and that they have their own special abilities (Cat one is a little OP in my mind considering the damage output)
Are there any pets that have noteworthy abilities I should be making sure that I add to my collection as I travel around?
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Steady Shot does more damage than Cobra Shot though, even as a BM hunter. Unless you need to refresh your sting (which on most mobs you aren't even going to be using) use Steady Shot.
Cobra Shot, not being physical damage, ignores armor (whereas Steady's damage is reduced). All the theorycrafting I have seen so far has been consistent: Cobra for BM/SV, Steady for MM.
Also, about my second question. I researched a bit and I believe I found the macro. It will cast misdirect on your pet. Very helpful with the MD glyph.
#showtooltip
/cast [target=pet, nodead, exists] Misdirection
If its avail, it'll cast first before the shot. He won't have to watch for it to cool down, just apply face and roll.
Pretty much.
/cast Kill Command
/cast Arcane Shot
If kill command is available it will cast it, if not it will shoot arcane or any other shot you attach to it.
- Can I cast Kill Command? Yes? Do it (GCD goes off so that macro press isn't doing anything else).
- Can I cast Kill Command? No? Then I'm done.
Is KC not on the GCD or something? Because I could swear it was as of 4.0.
Edit: Unless there's some crazy weird exception with KC due to the way it's not a direct ability and just sets the pet off to do something.