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The North will rise again: New Hampshire secession legislation
jungleroomx
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The New Hampshire state legislature took an unbelievably bold step today by introducing a resolution to declare certain actions by the federal government to completely totally void and warning that certain future acts will be viewed as a "breach of peace" with the states themselves that risks "nullifying the Constitution."
Full article here
Legislation here
I'm no lawmaker, so a lot of this stuff is complete Greek to me. But from what I've been able to dissect from this is that a segment of legislators from New Hampshire have proposed legislation which would basically bring the rights of the State back to the times directly following the ratification of the Constitution of the US.
Could this cause a domino effect? Although it has very, very little chance of passing... what could the societal repercussions be in terms of how people view the US Government? What happens if the legislation manages to pass through the New Hampshire legislature?
I found it highly interesting, and I'm sure it'll give quite a few people here enough to chew on.
Discuss!
Full article here
Legislation here
I'm no lawmaker, so a lot of this stuff is complete Greek to me. But from what I've been able to dissect from this is that a segment of legislators from New Hampshire have proposed legislation which would basically bring the rights of the State back to the times directly following the ratification of the Constitution of the US.
Could this cause a domino effect? Although it has very, very little chance of passing... what could the societal repercussions be in terms of how people view the US Government? What happens if the legislation manages to pass through the New Hampshire legislature?
I found it highly interesting, and I'm sure it'll give quite a few people here enough to chew on.
Discuss!
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More like some wingnut introduced a bill that's going to be resoundingly defeated.
This concept was settled in the mid-1800s first in the Nullification Crisis and then in a little thing called the Civil War. I wouldn't jump to any conclusions other than perhaps "wingnuts" quite yet
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Now I wish I'd kept it, because it had links to the text of each bill.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Nothing will happen. It is the crazies in this legislation. People will cock eyebrows right before they cock their guns and shoot this dumbassery in the skull.
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That indicates some kind of echochambering going on, and I'm wondering who's promoting this secession meme and why.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I'd believe that some wacko tries this and fails every year, yeah.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
It looks like they're trying it again, but to make Staten Island a separate city in New York state, instead of New Jersey.
Hating Jews is the American way.
Yeah I poked around that blog and found some Holocaust revisionist crap too.
Total class act, there.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Technically they're as protected as guns are. Can't really have functional guns without bullets.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Well, it also appears to say that tanks and artillery are protected by the second amendment, so
it also appears to newly forget some long remembered basics. Like the power of those supreme court guys and the whole interstate commerce thing
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
That's their problem. The government can ban types of ink.
Also introduced this session:
A bill to go from civil unions to full gay marriage
A bill to ban civil unions and gay marriage
A bill to legalize marijuana
A resolution calling for the withdrawal from the United Nations
A proposed ban on balloons
Something like sixty or seventy cents on the dollar compard to what we pay out.
Woo hoo.
If you aren't a farm state or south of the Mason-Dixon line there isn't much chance you are really pulling the welfare queen budgets.
Is there really no "You can't introduce batshit insane bills" clause in your state/congressional/etc legislatures? Like, doesn't this stuff take up time that could be better spent on actually governing and debate worthwhile stuff?
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My guess is that any bill can be entered and this silly stuff is left on the cutting room floor in those committees.
Although the balloon ban did pass the House of Reps. Everyone had a good laugh over that.
Balloons are horrible, awful objects invented by a sadist.
And banning balloons? Serious business.
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It's really quite sad.
By one cent to the dollar.
Oh yeah.
We have one rep per three thousand people.
You get interesting people popping up now and then.
It's like handing a kid a fucking gun.
I'm aware that this is extremely unrealistic, would never happen, and is silly for a representative to advocate, but it should be acceptable.
And my sister in law is from New Hampshire.
That's cold.
I kid.
But no seriously, fucking state representatives are CRAZY mang.
They still give kids actual rubber balloons? All I see are the mylar ones these days..
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