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My move out date is April 1st, but the landlord scheduled the walkthrough for today. Is this normal? Seems kind of soon for me. How long do these things usually take? Is it a big deal if I am not here?
What does your lease say about moving out inspections? Usually it specifies when it's going to happen. He can't just decide to do it a month early because he feels like it.
They can do whatever they want, as long as they give I believe 48 hours notice. Our move out date is April 30th, but the apartment is being put back on the market as of March 1st. 60 days notice and all.
They can do whatever they want, as long as they give I believe 48 hours notice. Our move out date is April 30th, but the apartment is being put back on the market as of March 1st. 60 days notice and all.
This is basically incorrect. No only can they not "do whatever they want", but the time period in which they can do things is not universal.
As noted a few posts above, read your lease, see what it says. It should be laid our very clearly what they can and can't do, when, and under what circumstances.
As in, be there or forfeit the opportunity to dispute any damage etc. which he decides exists.
Normally, it's illegal for landlords to enter an occupied property when the tenant isn't around anyway, as are unannounced visits.
Actually, I think it's usually fine as long as they give you a certain amount of notice before entering -- or if it's an emergency situation. I'll admit I've never had to research it or determine if it's a legitimate clause, but all of my leases over the past 10 years have included a statement that the landlord/management can enter the apartment whether you're there or not as long as they give 24 hours notice beforehand.
But in the case of a moveout walk though, I would want to be present for it.
I'm doing mine at the end of June, students leave then, so the weekend they move out, I'll be there checking the house. Their parents will probably be there moving them out, as well, as they were at the start of the lease, and as one of the dads broke the leg off one of the beds on move in day, I particularly would like him there (the bed is propped up on brick on one corner cos they haven't replaced it). I think a couple of them won't be seeing much of their deposit back!
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Up here in Canada the landlord is allowed to come in to the rental unit (with or without the consent of the tenant) once a month - provided proper notice is given.
It's basically to make sure you aren't running a methlab or grow op, IMO.
As for your situation: If there is something you've been given in writing about this counting for your condition inspection report, you need to be there. If not, you don't need to be there. The condition inspection report pretty much needs to be done on move out day though. It would be really weird for them to do it a month early - it's like you get a month's worth of fucking shit up if you wanted.
Good luck.
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yep, basically you need to make sure there's nothing illegal or dangerous around (like storing newspapers in the stove, having powerstrips in the shower, etc. )
it IS odd that the landlord is doing a walkthrough now before you move out. typically, it's in the landlord's interest to walk through after the tenant has vacated the premises, because at that point they can determine if they need to take any money out of your deposit.
make sure you document the condition of your apartment in some way before the landlord does the walkthrough. easiest method would probably just be to take pictures of the place.
It's not that odd at all. They want to check before he moves out so if it costs more than his deposit to fix he can get him before he skips town and he wants to be able to fix anything before the new tenants move-in.
he gave him 48+hours that is fine. it is normal he makes a list of things which he will give to you. you have option of fixing them or have it taken out of the deposit.
you definitely want to be there so you can make a case for things at the end/dispute things
You definitely need to be there. I've seen some ridiculous claims for damage from some of the rentals I've been in, so you need to be there.
Last apartment I was in charged me over $700 to replace the carpet because of stains that they found. Only evidence they had were crappy Polaroids that showed no stains, but I was screwed because I didn't go on the walk-through. Last time I will ever skip the walk-through.
I've had much better experiences with this in the past - but my last landlord explained to me (they did a walk through about a month and a half ahead of time, similar to what the OP describes) was simply so that they could line up any necessary contractors in advance. As it turned out in my situation, it was a 10-20 minute walk-through, sign off that nothing was wrong, end of story.
Yeah, turns out they were just checking for any major damages. They were done in about 2 minutes. I was stressed for no reason.
That's good. This is as good a time as any, though, to point out that you should take pictures of your apartment when you move out. Lots of pictures. Of every corner of the apartment.
We did that when we moved because of the circumstances of the move (eviction threatened and everything... was a pile of bullshit). The pictures helped us dispute a number of issues they claimed.
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For you it is.
As in, be there or forfeit the opportunity to dispute any damage etc. which he decides exists.
Normally, it's illegal for landlords to enter an occupied property when the tenant isn't around anyway, as are unannounced visits.
This is basically incorrect. No only can they not "do whatever they want", but the time period in which they can do things is not universal.
As noted a few posts above, read your lease, see what it says. It should be laid our very clearly what they can and can't do, when, and under what circumstances.
Actually, I think it's usually fine as long as they give you a certain amount of notice before entering -- or if it's an emergency situation. I'll admit I've never had to research it or determine if it's a legitimate clause, but all of my leases over the past 10 years have included a statement that the landlord/management can enter the apartment whether you're there or not as long as they give 24 hours notice beforehand.
But in the case of a moveout walk though, I would want to be present for it.
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Again, this is all completely dependent on the state.
It's basically to make sure you aren't running a methlab or grow op, IMO.
As for your situation: If there is something you've been given in writing about this counting for your condition inspection report, you need to be there. If not, you don't need to be there. The condition inspection report pretty much needs to be done on move out day though. It would be really weird for them to do it a month early - it's like you get a month's worth of fucking shit up if you wanted.
Good luck.
make sure you document the condition of your apartment in some way before the landlord does the walkthrough. easiest method would probably just be to take pictures of the place.
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you definitely want to be there so you can make a case for things at the end/dispute things
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Last apartment I was in charged me over $700 to replace the carpet because of stains that they found. Only evidence they had were crappy Polaroids that showed no stains, but I was screwed because I didn't go on the walk-through. Last time I will ever skip the walk-through.
That's good. This is as good a time as any, though, to point out that you should take pictures of your apartment when you move out. Lots of pictures. Of every corner of the apartment.
We did that when we moved because of the circumstances of the move (eviction threatened and everything... was a pile of bullshit). The pictures helped us dispute a number of issues they claimed.
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