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Sick Dog: Perhaps from pining over a girl?

Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
edited February 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
Not really, but here's the facts.

Two weeks ago while out of town I had my dog at a kennel. When he came home he was completely fine, but a few days later fell very very sick. I got home from work last tuesday night to find a dog that was completely different from the one I know. He vomited twice on our first walk, and was very lethargic on the next two before I went to bed. He also had horrible diarrhea, and an intense shaking, most likely from a fever which lasted for several days. After a tense night, I got him into the vet in the morning and after an examination and some blood tests, they sent him home with amoxicillin and a strict diet of special hypo-allergenic food. (He has very bad food allergies)

Fast forward to almost a week later and he is still shaking and sleeping a lot, though my ear thermometer says no fever. He has improved markedly since he was first sick, but the shaking is tripping me out. I've called the kennel and they didn't have any other dogs get sick, and I regulate his diet rigidly so I don't think it was that either. I did buy some different treats, but they were supposedly organic and had been giving them to him for two days before he actually got sick, as well as some rawhide bones from a different manufacture, again several days before he got sick. He has a small red lump on his stomach, but the vet didn't think it had anything to do with his being sick.

I'm a bit at my wits end, I don't entirely trust my vet (They try to upsell me on stuff everytime I go there), and am wary of spending a whole bunch more money to keep having tests run that don't really tell me what's wrong. (His blood work was a wild mix of positives and negatives) The shaking is the worst, I just hate to see him so miserable. I'm wondering if he may in fact be reacting to the amoxicillin, or maybe the pill poppers I use to give him his pills. I'm swapping out the pill poppers tonight, but I doubt it will make any difference. He is a short haired pit mix, so he may be cold, but the shaking doens't seem to be caused by cold. I guess my question is if anybody has had a dog with similar problems?

Also, this is the bro-dog in question:
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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm not a vet, but had a middle to old aged dog that exhibited lethargy and seizures (shakes, loss of muscle tone and control, sometimes loss of consciousness). In her case the vet tested her and determined she had hypothyroidism and put her on thyroid supplements which cleared things up pretty quick. I googled lethargy and seizures in dogs, and hypothyroidism is by no means the only possibility, so you'll need professional help.

    Ideally this would come from the vet who you've been taking him these past years as that vet will know the dogs temperament, and have the animal's history and all the results of the batteries of tests that have been performed. If you really cannot trust your vet and have to find a new one, then the new one will probably have to run a bunch of tests to try to figure out what's wrong. So it's not going to save you any money to switch vets, but it's important that you have a trusting relationship with your vet.

    Is he eating or taking fluids? This is important, if he's hypoglycemic or dehydrated this can manifest all kinds of problems that will interfere in the diagnosis. How's his gums look (pink, pale, yellow)? Is he drooling a lot and are there other behavioral issues other than lethargy/seizures? Normal dog temp is 100-102, above or below that usually means there's problems. You may need to take the temp rectally as ear thermometers aren't that great.

    Yeah, he could be having reactions to the medication, but presumably the medication is to treat the underlying issue and you shouldn't take him off the medication unless the vet says that's OK.

    If you need another vector to get the medication in him, I'd try hotdogs, or a chunk of cooked chicken (no spices). The pill poppers I've seen are full of all kinds of additives such that I think a chunk of hotdog's probably healthier.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Hmm, he's got good muscle tone so far. He was dehydrated and wasn't eating much. The vet did some under skin hydro therapy on him to get him re hydrated. He's been drinking water regularly now, but is still finicky about food. His temps haven't been above 103, and only at 103 when he's been active. I couldn't find a rectal thermometer, but the ear one appears to be doing the job ok. He's still on the medication and I'm not going to switch vets for now, my plan for now is to wait until saturday and if he's still having problems, take him back in for more tests. I just wanted to make sure there wasn't some obvious sickness I was missing from his symptoms.

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  • burntheladleburntheladle Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    When our dog had similar symptoms, it was from a blockage in his bowel (he ate a sock and it got lodged in his small intestines). Have they done xrays, or is the testing all just swabs and bloodwork?

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Swabs and bloodwork right now, I wouldn't be surprised if she decided to xray him, but we'll see. I don't think he would have been dumb enough to eat something like a sock, but he very easily could have swallowed a piece of a dog toy or something during the day while I was at work. I called the vet today and she wants to see him again, so he's going back in tonight.

    Note: I'm not calling your dog dumb for eating a sock either.

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  • burntheladleburntheladle Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Don't worry, you can call my dog dumb for eating socks - I call him much worse things. He loves socks and underwear, I honestly wouldn't be able to tell you how many times he's vomited up a pair of my panties. We invested in a waisthigh washing basket to try and stop him, but he steals them from the washingline and our housemates room. After he got one lodged, we got really paranoid about it ($900 operation to have it removed, and he lost massive amounts of weight. I've never seen a labrador's ribs before...), but we've still found at least three or four puke covered garments since then. :/

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  • vonPoonBurGervonPoonBurGer Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    I called the vet today and she wants to see him again, so he's going back in tonight.
    A follow-up visit to the vet is definitely the right move. Hopefully you get further answers.
    I honestly wouldn't be able to tell you how many times he's vomited up a pair of my panties.
    D:

    I'm not sure I'll ever be free of that mental image. On the plus side, you may have just cured my rampant panty fetish, so that's something.

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Has he been vaccinated for parvo?
    Diarrhea syndrome, or enteritis, has an incubation period of five to fourteen days. Dogs with enteritis act like they are in extreme pain. Early symptoms are depression, loss of appetite, vomiting, high fever, and severe diarrhea. Feces can be either grayish or fluid and bloody. Rapid dehydration is a danger, and dogs may continue to vomit and have diarrhea until they die, usually three days after onset of symptoms. Others may recover without complications and have no long-term problems. Puppies can die suddenly of shock as early as two days into the illness.

    Adult dogs have a better chance of recovering from parvo than puppies.

    It could be something else, because parvo is hardly the only thing to cause vomiting/diarrhea in dogs, but it sprung to mind because it does tend to crop up in multi-dog situations like kennels and it's highly contaigious.

    Edit: Nevermind, I see you already called the kennel.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Ha ha, man...panties aren't cheap either, funny after an op and everything he still tries to eat them.

    He's up to date on all of his shots, so it shouldn't be parvo or kennel cough, etc.

    She detected a heart murmur this time and gave me two expensive options to try and figure out what's going on. Either a sonogram? for his heart, or really expensive antibiotics on a week by week basis, she told me the economical option is the pills for now, so that's what we're going to try. She suspects he may have an infection in his blood stream that's collecting on his heart valves...or something like that. I've already spent over 500 bucks on this dog in 2 weeks, so I'm pretty tapped moneywise, I really hope he gets better.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    can't help much, but i do have one suggestion for the future since you are concerned with the costs: get health insurance for the dog... it saves lots of money in situations like this

    our pit mix went through cancer last year, and the insurance saved us thousands... and it's only ~$20/month for our policy

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Ha ha, man...panties aren't cheap either, funny after an op and everything he still tries to eat them.

    Too true!!
    He's up to date on all of his shots, so it shouldn't be parvo or kennel cough, etc.

    She detected a heart murmur this time and gave me two expensive options to try and figure out what's going on. Either a sonogram? for his heart, or really expensive antibiotics on a week by week basis, she told me the economical option is the pills for now, so that's what we're going to try. She suspects he may have an infection in his blood stream that's collecting on his heart valves...or something like that. I've already spent over 500 bucks on this dog in 2 weeks, so I'm pretty tapped moneywise, I really hope he gets better.

    Maybe get a second opinion?

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    LadyM wrote: »
    Dark_Side wrote: »
    Ha ha, man...panties aren't cheap either, funny after an op and everything he still tries to eat them.

    Too true!!
    He's up to date on all of his shots, so it shouldn't be parvo or kennel cough, etc.

    She detected a heart murmur this time and gave me two expensive options to try and figure out what's going on. Either a sonogram? for his heart, or really expensive antibiotics on a week by week basis, she told me the economical option is the pills for now, so that's what we're going to try. She suspects he may have an infection in his blood stream that's collecting on his heart valves...or something like that. I've already spent over 500 bucks on this dog in 2 weeks, so I'm pretty tapped moneywise, I really hope he gets better.

    Maybe get a second opinion?

    Probably, if he doesn't get better I'll have to make a decision, for now I'm going to stick with what the vet and I agreed upon and just hope something magical happens. I will say though that he was remarkably better tonight, so that's somewhat promising.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I second the comment about trusting your vet... Probably not the best time to switch but trust is very important with humans and their doctors which should extend to animals too. You don't want to feel like the person with your pet's life in his or her hands is incompetent or just trying to make a quick buck, especially at a difficult time...

    That is a very handsome dog, and I hope he feels better soon.

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  • Dark_SideDark_Side Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Thanks.

    I mentioned I was completely out of money due to how expensive all these visits were getting, and she changed her tune a little bit, even knocked off some of the standard visit fee, and for once nobody came in and tried to sell me oral flea medication, so it must have had some effect.

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