and her knees up on the glove compartment
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
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SixCaches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhexRegistered Userregular
edited May 2009
Help me, Photo Thread!
I've just been offered a paid gig for a wsj.com shoot tomorrow morning. Two shoots, actually, one indoors and one out. The outdoor shoot I'm not worried about, but the indoor one I am. They don't have the actual location finalized yet, but they imagine it will be pretty dark. I'm going to be shooting a guy trying on pants in front of a vanity mirror, and they want someone dramatic lighting.
So I'm not set up for this really. I have a single 430 ex ii flash. I'm thinking at the very least, I'll need some sort of mechanism to move the flash off-camera, as well as a way to fix it in place. Adorama opens at 9:30 tomorrow morning, and I'm planning on being there to rent what I can and maybe buy what I can't. So far I'm thinking I could use the following:
- A 580 ex flash. this can act as a wireless controller for the 430, right? So I could have the 530 on camera and the 430 off? Is this a better idea than just using the separate wireless module?
- A light stand - I have a tripod, but I want to reserve that for the camera. Will I need anything in addition to mount the flash?
- A diffuser of some kind? A reflector of some kind? I want to be careful not to bring in too much equipment that might end up being unwieldy.
Here's the actual description of what I'll be shooting:
"The scene will be an overweight man trying on ill-fitting leather pants in front of a mirror. The light reflecting on the pants is very important--as well as the light placement in accordance to the mirrors. The style should be fairly dramatic--as the subject of the photo is reminiscing of his former nightlife."
Any advice would be great, thanks.
Also, this is for a online ad campaign as far as I can tell - what should I expect to provide as far as digital files. Are they going to need or want the raw files, or should I just provide jpegs?
You are seriously shooting for the wall street mother fucking journal?
My first thought would be to have a bright light source overhead with a little bit of a warming gel on it. Then have a fill light on the model at least 2 stops dimmer than the overhead light but bright enough to get rid of absolutely horrible shadows from the overhead light. I would also have some sort of diffuser on the fill light like a omnibounce or tiny softbox. You might need a third light thats gridded and aimed at the pants because black leather will suck up light like nobody's business but if you use the same light source on the model he will be ridiculously overexposed.
The real trouble will be positioning the lights so they don't reflect in the mirrors. Hopefully its just one mirror and not one of those 3 mirror setups that aims inwards because if its the later you are epic fucked on trying to prevent light bounce off the mirror.
How much are you being paid and do they have someone who is going to do the post work? If they don't then I would just provide processed high-res jpgs.
PS I hate you I want to shoot something for the WSJ.
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SixCaches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhexRegistered Userregular
edited May 2009
Well, don't be that jealous. First, it was for an ad campaign for wsj.com, not for the actual Wall Street Hournal. Second, it just got canceled, turns out they'd rather use stock imagery.
It was for $300 for the two shoots at about an hour each.
There is stock imagers for a fat guy trying on leather pants in front of a mirror? I'm kind of frightened.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I have a feeling that's what they were throwing around for the ad campaign, but the client seems to have changed their minds and doesn't want to do something that will actually cost anything significant. At least that's the feeling I'm getting.
The guy's making it up to me by having me shoot a battle of the bands next weekend. Might be fun, but wont pay nearly as much.
I was planning on using the $300 towards a 70-200.
photo-people, I know most of you ladies and gents are sportin' some fancy SLRs, but I'd like you to help me buy a point-n-shoot.
I had a Kodak z730 that I was quite fond of, but it is no longer with us. I've been using a fujifilm finepix, which has atrocious motion blur from a standard shot. If possible, I'd like something I could charge through a USB cord.
Back when I had a point and shoot I got a cannon PowerShot. In general I've only heard good things about the new ones as well, but admittedly I haven't researched P&S cameras.
There is stock imagers for a fat guy trying on leather pants in front of a mirror? I'm kind of frightened.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I have a feeling that's what they were throwing around for the ad campaign, but the client seems to have changed their minds and doesn't want to do something that will actually cost anything significant. At least that's the feeling I'm getting.
The guy's making it up to me by having me shoot a battle of the bands next weekend. Might be fun, but wont pay nearly as much.
I was planning on using the $300 towards a 70-200.
what the fuck
they think $300 is a significant amount for an ad campaign photo? jesus
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SixCaches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhexRegistered Userregular
There is stock imagers for a fat guy trying on leather pants in front of a mirror? I'm kind of frightened.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I have a feeling that's what they were throwing around for the ad campaign, but the client seems to have changed their minds and doesn't want to do something that will actually cost anything significant. At least that's the feeling I'm getting.
The guy's making it up to me by having me shoot a battle of the bands next weekend. Might be fun, but wont pay nearly as much.
I was planning on using the $300 towards a 70-200.
what the fuck
they think $300 is a significant amount for an ad campaign photo? jesus
There is stock imagers for a fat guy trying on leather pants in front of a mirror? I'm kind of frightened.
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I have a feeling that's what they were throwing around for the ad campaign, but the client seems to have changed their minds and doesn't want to do something that will actually cost anything significant. At least that's the feeling I'm getting.
The guy's making it up to me by having me shoot a battle of the bands next weekend. Might be fun, but wont pay nearly as much.
I was planning on using the $300 towards a 70-200.
what the fuck
they think $300 is a significant amount for an ad campaign photo? jesus
Nice blues in your skies, but the crops on the gazebo/statue make the figures seem kind of incomplete to me. Cross/churchyard is a little on the plain side.
New to Washington State area, driving around to check things out:
Hey guys, a quick question aimed at pope, cow and any other working photographers. Mind if I have a peak at your business cards? I need to get mine printed this week, I've just busted out a nice little prototype of mine and was wondering what you think.
I wanted something very simple, to sort of force them into visiting the website, which launches this week, I will be changing hosts this week, that URL might change though.
The letter spacing on the url might be a bit too much, but the other side of the card I like!
I would also remove the (web / email / phone) text and make the website / email / phone number larger.
nO: I kind of want to print off the last one, stick it in one of those fancy black and white frames and hang it above my bed like they always show in Style at Home magazine (what?..they have them laying around at work and I get bored.. why are you staring at me like that?)
Hey guys, a quick question aimed at pope, cow and any other working photographers. Mind if I have a peak at your business cards? I need to get mine printed this week, I've just busted out a nice little prototype of mine and was wondering what you think.
I wanted something very simple, to sort of force them into visiting the website, which launches this week, I will be changing hosts this week, that URL might change though.
Well color me flattered. I'm actually not even remotely a professional. I have never sold a photo; I have never done a photoshoot; Other than my family, I have never taken pictures of people. I am utterly and totally a hobbyist with an obsolete camera (Canon 20D) that I bought used and some off-brand shit cuz I'm so cheap.
That said, I made a prototype for a card myself mainly for use for sharing my website with friends or family. I dunno if it's any good and I haven't printed any, but feel free to take a look (and anyone with crits or feedback, feel free to post em.)
I kinda like the minimalism in yours. Selling yourself as a designer is a differnt world than what I would do for me, so I don't really know how to crit a design-oriented card. Still, yours seems pretty good.
Dear NeedOptic: stop being so awesome. I adore your macro shots. I feel that your last abstract of the grass by the pond, could use more lake/negative place to balance the picture, as the grass by itself isnt interesting enough to hold the attention for long. Are any of these crops, or is this the magic of your macro lens?
Erisian pope: 7 pages ago you asked for the exif data of my concert shot. In my defense, I had a huge paragraph written up when the internet ate it. If anyone is still interested in it, here it goes.
Camera: Nikon D50
Exposure: 0.004 sec (1/250)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 18 mm
Exposure: 0.00
ISO Speed: 800 (because I am a retard and forgot to reset my camera)
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Auto, Fired, Return detected (SB600 off camera with a diffuser in TLL mode held up and to the left, bounced off the ceiling)
As for processing, there was a lot of layering of different filters to get that effect. I am glad you liked it, as I thought that the filter use would be too visible and distracting.
Hey guys, I have a quick question for you. I went to a castle over the weekend and got some pictures, but I'm working through them with Photoshop, and need to correct a few pictures. A couple of them are of some stuff behind glass and I'd like to reduce the reflections in the glass if possible. Is it possible? Anyone know?
Thanks for any help!
Edit: In the meantime, here are some quick edits I did of my pictures. I'm still learning photoshop and how the curves and histogram works. I think some came out a bit too dark, so I'm going to keep playing with them for now...
I'm not sure about reducing glare/reflections in Photoshop. Without seeing the image I'd hate to just blindly say you might be able to clone, heal, etc them out.
For future reference, if you have a dSLR a Circular Polarizer can reduce glare and reflections from glass significantly.
Thanks guys! The dandelion closeup is a crop - roughly a 1/4 of a frame.
Others are not.
Munin - that's an excellent suggestion. I was a little too involved and too close - some negative space of out of focus stuff would have been very good there.
Flying - the man is good - nice isolation of shape due to the light ground. Perhaps the feed could be in the frame as well. The woman - not so much. Just a garble of pieces and no continuity.
Coke - I like the images, all nicely exposed. It seems they're a little "cool" for a semi overcast day, however. Did you have your WB on auto? Could use a bit of warmth.
I love this.
Flyingman - I like both shots a lot. I wish there was a little more contrast difference between the old man's face and the bench behind it (so, I guess lightening the bench a little) but that's minor. It's a good shot.
Thylacine - nice dandelion!
Astorite - I like the seagulls, but I think the sky is not adding anything to the image. You might consider cropping the image right at the top of the crest of the wave (making it sort of a panorama) - that will center the birds, and split the image into waves/birds/beach. Just an idea.
A: Just ordered my first flash, Canon 580EX II, yay!
B: A shoot I did a few weeks ago, some shots from it:
C: What about cell phone photos? If any of you guys follow Chase Jarvis, the guy post an iphone photo a day and they are all basically amazing. Here are some of mine. All taken from an iphone processed in camera using the application Camera Bag:
You can find all of chase jarvis's on twitter, his account is just chasejarvis and all of mine if anyone is interested are on twitter as well under tripppage
Hey guys, a quick question aimed at pope, cow and any other working photographers. Mind if I have a peak at your business cards? I need to get mine printed this week, I've just busted out a nice little prototype of mine and was wondering what you think.
I wanted something very simple, to sort of force them into visiting the website, which launches this week, I will be changing hosts this week, that URL might change though.
I'm not a giant fan of my current card because I made it about 2 years ago. I want something a little bit 'classier' and more high fashion for my next card.
My card looks like this:
My card is glossy and has rounded corners with this on the front:
and this on the back except replace "Boulder, CO" with "www.JeffFryerPhotography.com/"
I tried to make my card as consistent as possible. I use the same colors and font on my webpage as I do on my card. Also the picture on the front of the card is the first picture on my website.
nO: Your processing is still so amazing. You can make even mundane photos actually kind of interesting.
Six: Sorry to hear that fell through but IMO $300 seems a bit low for what you were describing. It would have been great experience and such for you even considering the small pay.
project: This is the only photo I really like. The rest from the iphone are rather meh. Then again I went and checked out chase jarvis's photos from his iphone and IMO 1 out of 10 of the photos are ok the rest are just utter crap.
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Her hair is a bit of a mess and maybe not a flattering angle, but the technical aspects are good.
Her chest is a little hot. Kinda blown out if you know what I mean.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
I've just been offered a paid gig for a wsj.com shoot tomorrow morning. Two shoots, actually, one indoors and one out. The outdoor shoot I'm not worried about, but the indoor one I am. They don't have the actual location finalized yet, but they imagine it will be pretty dark. I'm going to be shooting a guy trying on pants in front of a vanity mirror, and they want someone dramatic lighting.
So I'm not set up for this really. I have a single 430 ex ii flash. I'm thinking at the very least, I'll need some sort of mechanism to move the flash off-camera, as well as a way to fix it in place. Adorama opens at 9:30 tomorrow morning, and I'm planning on being there to rent what I can and maybe buy what I can't. So far I'm thinking I could use the following:
- A 580 ex flash. this can act as a wireless controller for the 430, right? So I could have the 530 on camera and the 430 off? Is this a better idea than just using the separate wireless module?
- A light stand - I have a tripod, but I want to reserve that for the camera. Will I need anything in addition to mount the flash?
- A diffuser of some kind? A reflector of some kind? I want to be careful not to bring in too much equipment that might end up being unwieldy.
Here's the actual description of what I'll be shooting:
"The scene will be an overweight man trying on ill-fitting leather pants in front of a mirror. The light reflecting on the pants is very important--as well as the light placement in accordance to the mirrors. The style should be fairly dramatic--as the subject of the photo is reminiscing of his former nightlife."
Any advice would be great, thanks.
Also, this is for a online ad campaign as far as I can tell - what should I expect to provide as far as digital files. Are they going to need or want the raw files, or should I just provide jpegs?
My first thought would be to have a bright light source overhead with a little bit of a warming gel on it. Then have a fill light on the model at least 2 stops dimmer than the overhead light but bright enough to get rid of absolutely horrible shadows from the overhead light. I would also have some sort of diffuser on the fill light like a omnibounce or tiny softbox. You might need a third light thats gridded and aimed at the pants because black leather will suck up light like nobody's business but if you use the same light source on the model he will be ridiculously overexposed.
The real trouble will be positioning the lights so they don't reflect in the mirrors. Hopefully its just one mirror and not one of those 3 mirror setups that aims inwards because if its the later you are epic fucked on trying to prevent light bounce off the mirror.
How much are you being paid and do they have someone who is going to do the post work? If they don't then I would just provide processed high-res jpgs.
PS I hate you I want to shoot something for the WSJ.
It was for $300 for the two shoots at about an hour each.
Thanks for the advice though
Yeah, that's what I thought too.
I have a feeling that's what they were throwing around for the ad campaign, but the client seems to have changed their minds and doesn't want to do something that will actually cost anything significant. At least that's the feeling I'm getting.
The guy's making it up to me by having me shoot a battle of the bands next weekend. Might be fun, but wont pay nearly as much.
I was planning on using the $300 towards a 70-200.
I had a Kodak z730 that I was quite fond of, but it is no longer with us. I've been using a fujifilm finepix, which has atrocious motion blur from a standard shot. If possible, I'd like something I could charge through a USB cord.
what the fuck
they think $300 is a significant amount for an ad campaign photo? jesus
How much do you charge per hour?
$texas
That's like, at least a $1000 job.
This was to be about 2 hours, so $300 seemed fine to me.
It's also the first time I'd have ever been paid for photography and sounded fun. Alas.
I'll do the battle of the bands next week though, and I've got another band I'm shooting Friday and Sunday.
Nice blues in your skies, but the crops on the gazebo/statue make the figures seem kind of incomplete to me. Cross/churchyard is a little on the plain side.
New to Washington State area, driving around to check things out:
I wanted something very simple, to sort of force them into visiting the website, which launches this week, I will be changing hosts this week, that URL might change though.
I would also remove the (web / email / phone) text and make the website / email / phone number larger.
Edit: was testing the 100mm F/2.8 Macro yesterday
This was probably one of my fave flower ones playing with it.
Thy: Is that a crazy close shot of a dandelion?!
Well color me flattered. I'm actually not even remotely a professional. I have never sold a photo; I have never done a photoshoot; Other than my family, I have never taken pictures of people. I am utterly and totally a hobbyist with an obsolete camera (Canon 20D) that I bought used and some off-brand shit cuz I'm so cheap.
That said, I made a prototype for a card myself mainly for use for sharing my website with friends or family. I dunno if it's any good and I haven't printed any, but feel free to take a look (and anyone with crits or feedback, feel free to post em.)
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i105/e--p/Misc/business_card_iv.jpg
I kinda like the minimalism in yours. Selling yourself as a designer is a differnt world than what I would do for me, so I don't really know how to crit a design-oriented card. Still, yours seems pretty good.
My Website | My "photo-a-day" 2010
Aaanyways, I got rid of my old shots on my account since they weren't too good, and put in this shot instead, which I took earlier:
It's still pretty rough, and I wish I'd noticed that damn bit of grass starting to poke up, but I think it came out decently. What do you guys think?
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Some abstracts with the macro lens..
Yup! But...damn nO showed me up. I like that dandelion silhouette a lot. ;-)
yalborap: That's better than your other ones, I'd still get closer than that though.
Erisian pope: 7 pages ago you asked for the exif data of my concert shot. In my defense, I had a huge paragraph written up when the internet ate it. If anyone is still interested in it, here it goes.
Camera: Nikon D50
Exposure: 0.004 sec (1/250)
Aperture: f/5.6
Focal Length: 18 mm
Exposure: 0.00
ISO Speed: 800 (because I am a retard and forgot to reset my camera)
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Flash: Auto, Fired, Return detected (SB600 off camera with a diffuser in TLL mode held up and to the left, bounced off the ceiling)
As for processing, there was a lot of layering of different filters to get that effect. I am glad you liked it, as I thought that the filter use would be too visible and distracting.
New shots from me.
Thanks for any help!
Edit: In the meantime, here are some quick edits I did of my pictures. I'm still learning photoshop and how the curves and histogram works. I think some came out a bit too dark, so I'm going to keep playing with them for now...
For future reference, if you have a dSLR a Circular Polarizer can reduce glare and reflections from glass significantly.
Others are not.
Munin - that's an excellent suggestion. I was a little too involved and too close - some negative space of out of focus stuff would have been very good there.
Flying - the man is good - nice isolation of shape due to the light ground. Perhaps the feed could be in the frame as well. The woman - not so much. Just a garble of pieces and no continuity.
Coke - I like the images, all nicely exposed. It seems they're a little "cool" for a semi overcast day, however. Did you have your WB on auto? Could use a bit of warmth.
I love this.
Flyingman - I like both shots a lot. I wish there was a little more contrast difference between the old man's face and the bench behind it (so, I guess lightening the bench a little) but that's minor. It's a good shot.
Thylacine - nice dandelion!
Astorite - I like the seagulls, but I think the sky is not adding anything to the image. You might consider cropping the image right at the top of the crest of the wave (making it sort of a panorama) - that will center the birds, and split the image into waves/birds/beach. Just an idea.
My Website | My "photo-a-day" 2010
It is really rare but I actually found a guy who could model and I think this is my favorite shot of the whole set:
B: A shoot I did a few weeks ago, some shots from it:
C: What about cell phone photos? If any of you guys follow Chase Jarvis, the guy post an iphone photo a day and they are all basically amazing. Here are some of mine. All taken from an iphone processed in camera using the application Camera Bag:
You can find all of chase jarvis's on twitter, his account is just chasejarvis and all of mine if anyone is interested are on twitter as well under tripppage
I'm not a giant fan of my current card because I made it about 2 years ago. I want something a little bit 'classier' and more high fashion for my next card.
My card looks like this:
and this on the back except replace "Boulder, CO" with "www.JeffFryerPhotography.com/"
I tried to make my card as consistent as possible. I use the same colors and font on my webpage as I do on my card. Also the picture on the front of the card is the first picture on my website.
nO: Your processing is still so amazing. You can make even mundane photos actually kind of interesting.
Six: Sorry to hear that fell through but IMO $300 seems a bit low for what you were describing. It would have been great experience and such for you even considering the small pay.
project: This is the only photo I really like. The rest from the iphone are rather meh. Then again I went and checked out chase jarvis's photos from his iphone and IMO 1 out of 10 of the photos are ok the rest are just utter crap.
My Website | My "photo-a-day" 2010
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