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buying stuff on craigslist: is it legit?

starlanceriistarlancerii Registered User regular
edited February 2009 in Help / Advice Forum
So I'm thinking of getting a Wii, and retail prices are slightly higher than I want to pay. So I look on craigslist, and I see postings selling "factory sealed" wiis at less than retail prices, some up to 20% off. So of course, I'm thinking, this is a good deal! But I'm also thinking, *how can be?*

I'd like my money to actually go to the makers without letting some nefarious criminal network or some credit card thief profit. Are these postings most likely benefiting a criminal, or would there be an actual valid reason for somebody to sell a brand new wii so cheaply?

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  • DarwinsFavoriteTortoiseDarwinsFavoriteTortoise Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm sure there is some shady stuff going on with that.

    (And not that I'm advocating stealing, but I doubt Nintendo would really be stung AT ALL if you bought it on craigslist. How much money do they make off the Wii per year, anway?)

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  • starlanceriistarlancerii Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Its more of I try to not let criminals and credit card thieves profit.

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  • PeregrineFalconPeregrineFalcon Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    It's more likely a scam than someone selling an actual Wii. :P

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If it's not posted by a store but an individual they most likely fell off a truck. Are you sure your Gamestop doesn't have any? I got a used Wii at Gamestop at a great price and they have more in now in addition to new ones. You're not going to get a new Wii at less than retail price anywhere legit for a few years.

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  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    You can always ask for a photocopy of the receipt, if they did legitimately buy it they shouldn't have a problem sending you a [probably slightly censored] copy of it to help sell it.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If the Wii had just launched, I wouldn't worry too much over a sealed box, it would seem like someone just trying to make some extra cash selling it for over value.
    But have it be lower than MSRP and so long after it launched, I would think it was stolen. Ask for a recepit to be sure.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    So I'm thinking of getting a Wii, and retail prices are slightly higher than I want to pay. So I look on craigslist, and I see postings selling "factory sealed" wiis at less than retail prices, some up to 20% off. So of course, I'm thinking, this is a good deal! But I'm also thinking, *how can be?*

    I'd like my money to actually go to the makers without letting some nefarious criminal network or some credit card thief profit. Are these postings most likely benefiting a criminal, or would there be an actual valid reason for somebody to sell a brand new wii so cheaply?
    It's most likely

    A: A scam to sell you a shrink wrapped box with a brick inside.
    B: Stolen.

    There's certainly the possibility that it's neither, sometimes people come across cheap and/or free consoles but have no interest in actually using them. For me personally though that probability is too low.

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Quid wrote: »

    A: A scam to sell you a shrink wrapped box with a brick inside.

    QFT. There are cheaper ways to obtain bricks but you dont get the nice box. You could always use it as a paper weight I suppose.

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  • saltinesssaltiness Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    If you can buy it in person then go for it. NEVER EVER EVER buy something that's being shipped through craigslist. It's almost always a scam.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I didn't even consider that it is just filled with dumb weight. I'll bet the guy refuses to open it and show you the Wii.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    I'm not sure but Circuit City is going through liquidation and I could totally see some guy in a rural area snagging up a dozen Wii's at decent markdown and then flipping them.


    But usually you see that sort of thing on eBay.

    Craigslist is what it is... the jungle. Be extremely defensive, and verify the product works before money comes into play. Also, meet in a public place.

    Basically you are putting up huge risk to save what, 20 bucks?

    Just go mow a lawn or something.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I'm not sure but Circuit City is going through liquidation and I could totally see some guy in a rural area snagging up a dozen Wii's at decent markdown and then flipping them.

    Highly unlikely, no liquidator is stupid enough to mark a Wii down when he could sell it above retail. He would ship them to an area where they would sell or pull them himself but he wouldn't sell them at any discount to the public.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I'm not sure but Circuit City is going through liquidation and I could totally see some guy in a rural area snagging up a dozen Wii's at decent markdown and then flipping them.

    Except that he'd be selling them for more than he bought them for and guess what: There's virtually no retail margin on video game consoles. Very, very thin margin at retail on those.

    At best it's a scam to sell you a brick, or a stolen wii, or potentially a wii that died on the table during modding. At worst, you'll show up with the money and get jumped. Not really worth it, not actually a good or smart way to save money. With something in as much demand as a Wii, you're really best off to just pick one up at retail.

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  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I'm not sure but Circuit City is going through liquidation and I could totally see some guy in a rural area snagging up a dozen Wii's at decent markdown and then flipping them.

    Highly unlikely, no liquidator is stupid enough to mark a Wii down when he could sell it above retail. He would ship them to an area where they would sell or pull them himself but he wouldn't sell them at any discount to the public.

    You would think that, but the Circuit City near me going out of business, everything is at least 10% off, game systems included. Even the 5 5Ds they had. :'( if only I had money....

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Thylacine wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I'm not sure but Circuit City is going through liquidation and I could totally see some guy in a rural area snagging up a dozen Wii's at decent markdown and then flipping them.

    Highly unlikely, no liquidator is stupid enough to mark a Wii down when he could sell it above retail. He would ship them to an area where they would sell or pull them himself but he wouldn't sell them at any discount to the public.

    You would think that, but the Circuit City near me going out of business, everything is at least 10% off, game systems included. Even the 5 5Ds they had. :'( if only I had money....

    DS's which are readily available everywhere rather easily. How many Wii's did you see?

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    I'm not sure but Circuit City is going through liquidation and I could totally see some guy in a rural area snagging up a dozen Wii's at decent markdown and then flipping them.

    Except that he'd be selling them for more than he bought them for and guess what: There's virtually no retail margin on video game consoles. Very, very thin margin at retail on those.

    At best it's a scam to sell you a brick, or a stolen wii, or potentially a wii that died on the table during modding. At worst, you'll show up with the money and get jumped. Not really worth it, not actually a good or smart way to save money. With something in as much demand as a Wii, you're really best off to just pick one up at retail.

    By the way, it's rare, but that does happen. People will post on craigslist and then mug you at the meeting spot. I feel like I've only ever heard of it happening with video game consoles, too.

    There's a good old fashioned phrase, 'Too good to be true."

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  • BelruelBelruel NARUTO FUCKS Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    if you buy it, only ever meet in person, cash to hand, and bring friends, meet in public, and insist that they open it in front of you to show you the wii

    like a meeting of gang heads to buy drugs or guns

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    if you buy it, only ever meet in person, cash to hand, and bring friends, meet in public, and insist that they open it in front of you to show you the wii

    like a meeting of gang heads to buy drugs or guns

    Normally I wouldn't suggest this for CL, but for something that expensive you probably should. You wouldn't want to go to the guy's house and find out that he's just going to rob you of your money.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    if you buy it, only ever meet in person, cash to hand, and bring friends, meet in public, and insist that they open it in front of you to show you the wii

    like a meeting of gang heads to buy drugs or guns

    "Hey man. 'ju got the stuff?"
    "...'ju got the money?"

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  • Gilbert0Gilbert0 North of SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Belruel wrote: »
    if you buy it, only ever meet in person, cash to hand, and bring friends, meet in public, and insist that they open it in front of you to show you the wii

    like a meeting of gang heads to buy drugs or guns

    I've sold a tower computer, laptop and ipod on craigslist/kijiji and this is how you should do it.

    For selling, always cash, always meet up somewhere where you both want to go and don't go alone.

    As a seller though, I did try to not totally rip people off. Sure I wanted a profit but if I got a deal on a Wii and didn't want it, I wouldn't want to totally rip you off. Though I may be a nicer person.

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  • ThylacineThylacine Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Thylacine wrote: »
    You would think that, but the Circuit City near me going out of business, everything is at least 10% off, game systems included. Even the 5 5Ds they had. :'( if only I had money....

    DS's which are readily available everywhere rather easily. How many Wii's did you see?

    I didn't say DS, I said five 5D cameras. :-P http://www.adorama.com/ICA5D.html?sid=123535478117488 I counted those because 10% off a $2000 camera is a bigger deal to me than game console systems. There were a handful of each system I would say, but I can't give exact counts and I don't know if they had more in the back.

    It seemed crazy to me that they wouldn't just ship them to another store...considering they are brand new cameras, but hey whatever.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Thylacine wrote: »
    Thylacine wrote: »
    You would think that, but the Circuit City near me going out of business, everything is at least 10% off, game systems included. Even the 5 5Ds they had. :'( if only I had money....

    DS's which are readily available everywhere rather easily. How many Wii's did you see?

    I didn't say DS, I said five 5D cameras. :-P http://www.adorama.com/ICA5D.html?sid=123535478117488 I counted those because 10% off a $2000 camera is a bigger deal to me than game console systems. There were a handful of each system I would say, but I can't give exact counts and I don't know if they had more in the back.

    It seemed crazy to me that they wouldn't just ship them to another store...considering they are brand new cameras, but hey whatever.

    My bad but 10% off of a $2,000 camera they have a higher mark-up on than a $250 console with a low mark-up. Especially on an item most stores can barely keep in stock.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2009
    Craigslist should only ever be done locally. At least with ebay, there's seller ratings and such to give you some sense of how trustworthy a person is.

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  • JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    This might as well have a big neon sign flashing "scam" on and off attached to it. If it's a legitimate Wii, why is he selling it for less than the retail value he could get at the store? Because it's either

    A) stolen
    B) broken
    C) a brick dressed up in a Wii box, or
    D) only accepts Western Union or other difficult-to-trace-and-reclaim payment method.

    Just suck it up and buy retail. You'll pay retail, but you'll have a legitimately bought console that can't get you arrested for posession of stolen property.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    It might be a Cheapassgamer guy turning Gamestop credit into actual cash or something. (Buy cheap games on clearance, trade them in to GS whenever the next big tradein bonus occurs, buy a Wii, and sell it on Craigslist.) Gets you more cash than asking for cash from GS, and less trouble than selling the games individually. If so, they'd definitely have the receipt.

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2009
    It might be a Cheapassgamer guy turning Gamestop credit into actual cash or something. (Buy cheap games on clearance, trade them in to GS whenever the next big tradein bonus occurs, buy a Wii, and sell it on Craigslist.) Gets you more cash than asking for cash from GS, and less trouble than selling the games individually. If so, they'd definitely have the receipt.

    Yes but you're forgetting something REALLY, REALLY obvious:
    Anyone going to that much trouble is NOT going to sell the system for less than the open market will support. They will put the price at $20 above retail and state OBO. Because because because: You can still sell a Wii above retail. Even used Wiis go for at least retail. No one is going to sell the Wii for less than it is worth, ESPECIALLY if they had to go through any kind of hassle in order to get it for less than it is worth in the first place. That takes time and time is worth money and that gets built into the price.

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  • evilmrhenryevilmrhenry Registered User regular
    edited February 2009
    Pheezer wrote: »
    It might be a Cheapassgamer guy turning Gamestop credit into actual cash or something. (Buy cheap games on clearance, trade them in to GS whenever the next big tradein bonus occurs, buy a Wii, and sell it on Craigslist.) Gets you more cash than asking for cash from GS, and less trouble than selling the games individually. If so, they'd definitely have the receipt.

    Yes but you're forgetting something REALLY, REALLY obvious:
    Anyone going to that much trouble is NOT going to sell the system for less than the open market will support. They will put the price at $20 above retail and state OBO. Because because because: You can still sell a Wii above retail. Even used Wiis go for at least retail. No one is going to sell the Wii for less than it is worth, ESPECIALLY if they had to go through any kind of hassle in order to get it for less than it is worth in the first place. That takes time and time is worth money and that gets built into the price.

    Buyers on Craigslist are annoying to deal with at the best of times, and selling at $20 above retail does not pre-select for trouble-free buyers. The standard flipper probably spent less than $130 for the Wii, all things considered, so selling at $230 isn't that big of a deal.

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