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Pre-Fight Debate Thread: Bracket 4

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Fight A - Rhino wins for sure. He's stronger than Sabretooth and less vulnerable to damage (Sabretooth might have a healing factor, but that takes time to work). True, Spidey's a lot weaker than Rhino and beats him all the time, but Sabretooth doesn't have his agility or his intelligence.

    Er... wait. Sabretooth have adamantium bones now?

    ...Hrm. Now I'm not sure.

    Fight B - Not even a contest. Xorn wins within about two seconds.

    Fight C - I don't know anything about Despero, but considering Stiltman is one of the lamest villains in the history of comics, I'd say he wins in about ten seconds. Despero, that is.

    Fight D - Dr. Light. Spiral might be great at hand-to-hand combat, but no way can she stand up to his powers.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Did you miss the post on this very page explaining that Spiral isn't only good at Hand to Hand combat?

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Sabretooth doesn't have adamantium and claws now, but Doom picked the adamantium version.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    Sabretooth doesn't have adamantium and claws now, but Doom picked the adamantium version.

    actually, apocalypse took out his adamantium to give it to wolverine, but Weapon X put it back.

    So he does have adamantium currently.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Spiral has six arms, one of which is fully cybernetic; she also has enhanced strength, speed, and reflexes. She has the ability to teleport, become invisible, and she also has shown the ability to remove superhuman abilities. She can stun others to the point of causing a concussion or paralyze others. She is a proficient magic user and usually dances when she casts spells. Spiral for some unknown reason is immune to certain types of possession.
    Abilities
    Spiral is a master swordsman and an experienced stuntwoman. She is highly proficient in genetics, mechanics, and cybernetics.
    Weapons
    Spiral carries two to three swords which are made of an unknown metal. She has also been known to carry an unknown number of knives with her.

    Jesus christ.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited November 2006
    spiral is the new shade

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2006
    She's pretty powerful, but not nearly as uber as Shade. She's a good sorceress, but not a great one, and her depowerment ability isn't going to work on anyone who doesn't actually have any superpowers, and is just naturally powerful (aliens, robots, etc). As soon as she comes up against an A-List villain she'll lose, but Light isn't on the A-List.

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  • WhippyWhippy Moderator, Admin Emeritus Admin Emeritus
    edited November 2006
    spiral for shade 2006

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  • exitexit Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    wiki wrote:
    In the X-Force: Shatterstar limited series, Spiral was revealed to have conquered an alternate timeline and referred to herself as "The Apocalypse". She managed to kill most of that Earth's heroes, and only Cable and some of his X-Force/New Mutants allies were left. Spiral had kidnapped that universe's Sunspot and tortured him by making him make love to her until his rescue. With the aid of Shatterstar, Spiral was evidently defeated and apparentely returned to Mojo's services. She later attacked the X-Men together with Mojo, but ended up defeated once again.

    so apparently Spiral and Dr. Light are even in the rape rape rape catagory?

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Light is a photokinetic, with the ability to control light for a variety of purposes. He can bend the light around him to become invisible, generate blasts of energy, create force fields and fly. By mentally repulsing photons, Light can create areas of complete darkness. Teen Titans #23 implied that Light could 'power up' by draining the ambient light in the area. The limits of his powers are unclear, but he seems to be able to wrest control of anything that emits light. Such things have included Green Lantern constructs, Superboy's heat vision, and magic lightning from Wonder Girl's lasso. He was also able to take the "internal" light away from the light powered charcters, Doctor Light III and the Ray.

    Jesus christ!

    Hi Shoe :mrgreen:

    Your new sig pleases me.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    It's hard to perfrom a spell on a man who you CANNOT SEEEEEEEEEEEE.

    Spiral would have to cast a lot of spells very quickly before Doctor Light has a chance to do anything, or she'll get fried, and Doctor Light's powers work at the speed of thought also.

    EDIT: Oh, and Doctor Light has control over a large section of the electromagnetic spectrum, if not the entire electromagnetic spectrum. He was able to turn the electrical Superman into radio waves in Grant Morrison's run on JLA.

    Doctor Light is fucking powerful.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Does she need to see him to cast a spell on him?

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    robosagogo wrote:
    Does she need to see him to cast a spell on him?

    I am assuming she needs to know where to direct her spells, and the ability to see would come in handy right about then.

    Note that she would be completely unable to protect herself in complete darkness, which does not bother Doctor Light, allowing him to probably shoot a laser beam through her head.

    He's like Monica Rambeau in Nextwave, only he doesn't turn into radiation himself. Basically he is frighteningly powerful. Petawatt Laser and such pew pew pew.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    The only person who can really answer this is someone who has read the comic, but I don't think she could've hit all the Avengers at once if she needed to aim each of the spells.

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Rating: AWESOME YESRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'm pretty sure that she wouldn't be able to depower someone she doesn't now the whereabouts of. This is more about not knowing where the fuck he is, what he is doing and where you are yourself than just not being able to see a guy.

    Also note that while Spiral casts spells, she does not do it at the speed at which Doctor Light controls massive quantities of potent energy.

    Someone as frail (relative to Light's other opponents) as Spiral would not be able to stand up to many of Doctor Light's hits. In fact, she'd be pretty much a charred corpse after only a few.

    EDIT: And I'm pretty sure that a flash of light bright enough to vaporize your corneas might distract you a bit from casting any de-powering spells.

    Doctor Light can just do far too many things to Spiral before she can depower him.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Spiral doesn't exactly shoot magical energy blasts or something here.

    In any case, my scenario for Spiral's victory is Dr. Light getting in a solid hit or two and assuming the fight is over, preparing for rapeage, and getting himself stabbed, rather than Spiral straight out kicking his ass.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Goddamit you people. HE DOES MORE THEN RAPE.

    Unless you're talking about his awful portrayal by Winnick, where all he said was raperaperaperape.

    He took on all the various incarnations of the Teen Titans AT THE SAME TIME and fought them to a standstill. He tore the heat vision from Superboys eyes.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Dr. Light is basically as powerful as The Shade, aka RIDICULOUS.

    He could take on the Spectre and not die!

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  • Romero ZombieRomero Zombie Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Well, you know what they say.

    You can fight the Teen Titans a thousand times, but you rape a superheroes wife once...

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    And then hear about dozens of times from every damn poster on a message board. :roll:

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'll be honest, I didn't vote for Spiral, just against Light because A) I don't want to hear some variation of, "Well first he'll beat her up then rape her!" every time he goes up against a female villain (or even a dude) and B) I think his recent power tweaks were goddamn ridiculously overpowering and retarded, and I didn't want him to just get by on, "Well I mean he's like really strong and he beat the Titans so how could he not win?"

    Plus I'm kind of hoping that we'll have another art contest so I have an excuse to draw Spiral cutting his head off then making a funny handpuppet out of his skull.

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  • mcwillipmcwillip Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Munch wrote:
    a funny handpuppet out of his skull.


    awesome

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  • ArcibiArcibi Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Man, I come back from Thanksgiving break and my luck takes a turn for the absolute worst

    I can't work on a semester project because I can't install the required software anywhere

    I finally have a chance to pick up a Wii and I find out that I'm 50th in a line for 42 Wiis

    Anywhere I could have gotten food with my meal plan on campus is closed so I'll have to order pizza or something

    And now I find my one nomination that made it, Titanium Man, is going up against fucking Xorn

    I cannot catch a break, dudes

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Too bad there's no prep time in these fights. Titanium Man could beat Magneto by showing up without his armor. There's no metal in Limbo, after all.

    But not really, because Magneto is so ridiculously powerful that he doesn't even need metal around him. Xorn in particular did crazy shit with magnetokinesis without giving anyone the impression that his powers were magnetic in nature (or so I heard, never having read the series).

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  • The LuggageThe Luggage Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Dr. Light is basically as powerful as The Shade, aka RIDICULOUS.

    He could take on the Spectre and not die!

    The Spectre would do something awesomely ironic.

    Like teleporting him into the center of the sun.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Mai-Kero wrote:
    Dr. Light is basically as powerful as The Shade, aka RIDICULOUS.

    He could take on the Spectre and not die!

    The Spectre would do something awesomely ironic.

    Like teleporting him into the center of the sun.
    Or raping him with a lightbulb.

    Woo, making rape jokes is just as fun as you guys made it look.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    guys maybe the laws of physics don't work in Limbo.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo_%28comics%29
    Limbo's appearance and physical laws are highly variable, and determined by the power and personal taste of its ruler.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo_(comics)
    Limbo's appearance and physical laws are highly variable, and determined by the power and personal taste of its ruler.
    Limbo's physical laws are primarily magical, though laws of the ordinary universe (such as electromagnetism and gravity) normally apply within its bounds.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo_(comics)
    Limbo's appearance and physical laws are highly variable, and determined by the power and personal taste of its ruler.
    Limbo's physical laws are primarily magical, though laws of the ordinary universe (such as electromagnetism and gravity) normally apply within its bounds.

    well, lord, I tried.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo_(comics)
    Limbo's appearance and physical laws are highly variable, and determined by the power and personal taste of its ruler.
    Limbo's physical laws are primarily magical, though laws of the ordinary universe (such as electromagnetism and gravity) normally apply within its bounds.

    well, lord, I tried.

    Stilt-man though, I don't gather how asteroid M levels that playing field.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited November 2006
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbo_(comics)
    Limbo's appearance and physical laws are highly variable, and determined by the power and personal taste of its ruler.
    Limbo's physical laws are primarily magical, though laws of the ordinary universe (such as electromagnetism and gravity) normally apply within its bounds.

    well, lord, I tried.

    Stilt-man though, I don't gather how asteroid M levels that playing field.

    I don't either.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2006
    I daresay stilt man was fucked unless he fought glue-man.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    I'm sorry but...Dr. Light's powers function at the speed of thought. Doesn't he have way too many powers that could insta-fry Spiral girl for this not to end with her roxed? She needs time for hand movements, he needs time to THINK SHE'S DEAD!

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Has Doctor Light ever attempted to insta-kill anybody?

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    When it's clear it's a fight to the death? Sure he would, I don't think he was fighting every single TT at the same time with the intention of forcing them to take his bouquet.. People say he can't fucking think past rape but really, how many bloody times has he done that? ONCE. On a HELPLESS woman. He's not stupid, he knew he could do it and get away with it, that's why he did it! He wouldn't drop his pants for Spiral when he knows this is a bloody fight to the death, he's going to obliterate her.

    Edit: Come on folks, if you're going to argue that Light is going to be a retard and try to rape her cuz he's done it once, then isn't Spiral going to be a 'tard as well? Cuz, you know. She raped one guy as torture. Once. I doubt her brain can possibly comprehend NOT raping an enemy therefore!

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    He may have only done it once, but he talks about it a lot now. His villain dialogue is basically "oh shits I'm gonna rape you and/or your girfriends and/or sidekicks! man I love raping people!"

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  • mcwillipmcwillip Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    from his powers and abilities section on wikipedia, light seems light he would have to shoot an energy blast. as by comic law, all projectiles are dodgable, whereas magic, once the target is known (via sight or perhaps some other means), can essentially aim-bot its way to landing (if the spell needs to 'hit' at all).

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    He may have only done it once, but he talks about it a lot now. His villain dialogue is basically "oh shits I'm gonna rape you and/or your girfriends and/or sidekicks! man I love raping people!"

    ...When he's written by Judd Winnick, who really just looks for an excuse to use that kind of thing.

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  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2006
    He did threaten to pay Talia al Ghul a "visit" after she dumped hot coffee on his dick and then smashed him in the face with the pot. Which, when you think about it, really makes a convincing arguement for his loss as well. I think there was kind of a, "Hey GA, your teenage sidekick here's really hot," vibe in Teen Titans as well, but my perceptions may have just been colored by Identity Crisis.

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