- Have enough dps to let me solo without wanting to kill myself
- Require enough active participation on my part to keep me from falling asleep during group content. I really, really hate it when a class's role in group content boils down to hitting one combat rotation over and over again with no conscious thought required. Having lots of shiny buttons to press is a definitely a plus.
Suggestions?
Not a champion. Haven't played the other 2 classes but Captain is a badass class from what I have seen. Gaurd is just... tanking. :P
Having playing champ and Cap both to 20, so far. I am sticking with leveling my Cap, cause it is easier to solo with the Cap and less down time when out killing quest mobs. Plus there is a lot to do with the Cap over the Champ when in groups.
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I keep trying to log in and play but every time I get on my minstrel, I go to do a quest, die, get pissed off, and quit.
Maybe one day this week I'll have the patience to play.
Having playing champ and Cap both to 20, so far. I am sticking with leveling my Cap, cause it is easier to solo with the Cap and less down time when out killing quest mobs. Plus there is a lot to do with the Cap over the Champ when in groups.
Well, I hit 45 and can finally equip both legendary traits I currently have. Being able to bonk you with my staff, stab you with my sword, then step on your with a giant metaphysical ent is definitely awesome.
Now I'm reading suggestions all over the place in official forums, etc that I should be doing my Implements of Knowledge quest (Sword or Staff of Knowledge, with Sword as the best choice with Moria released now) and doing Volume I: Book 1 so that I can get my first legendary.
The end mobs for Implements both have over 20k morale and don't seem to be a part of any other quest. Just the forwards of Volume II are all red to me.
Are the things I'm reading being overly optimistic about the possibility of completion at this level, or am I missing something?
what you're missing is a few lev 60 friends to pull you through those.
I'm 44 at the moment, don't have any legendary traits, but I did buy 2 class books yesterday because I figured why not? I'm currently in Angmar, apparently half the pages of both drop here. :? This smells like grinding.
The pages go pretty fast. If yours are anything like the LM, its humanoid mobs in Angmar for half, and humanoid mobs in Misty Mountains for the other half.
In Angmar, that means orcs and hillmen.
In Misty Mountains, that means Caldwell Pond and the goblin camps there. I was able to finish Lore of the Blade in something like half a day, with questing mixed in.
I was lucky enough to just buy my book and pages on the AH for exposed throat. I paid 15s for the book and around 5-10s per page. Didn't see any pages on the AH for Flashing blades or Sweep the knee but those books were dirt cheap as well.
If any of you fellas starting/starting over on Landroval want a questing partner, add Elindore to your friends list. My 14 Rune Keeper. Will be on in a few.
I was lucky enough to just buy my book and pages on the AH for exposed throat. I paid 15s for the book and around 5-10s per page. Didn't see any pages on the AH for Flashing blades or Sweep the knee but those books were dirt cheap as well.
Some of them will only drop for you, they can't be traded. From what I understand there's typically at least one or two of that type for every class.
Best discovery I've made thus far in LotRO: Mapped back to the kinship house to find that there's a keg on the inside. Repeatedly drank from it until I woke up at the Bree Jail with a debuff with an icon of a panda that said I was sad because I missing my pants.
If any of you fellas starting/starting over on Landroval want a questing partner, add Elindore to your friends list. My 14 Rune Keeper. Will be on in a few.
I'll be playing my level 10 Elf Minstrel some tonight. Add Plaata to your friends.
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FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
So I bought and subscribed to this jazz after my free trial, and I've been having a lot of fun on Landroval. I'm playing a Dwarf Minstrel named Mudshark (His surname will be Arpeggio), only level 11 now, but moving fast enough.
He's a little tough to solo with at times, but I can manage being as I'm so used to playing healers. Whats the skinny on Minstrels? Useful? Needed? Overpopulated?
I was sick most of the weekend so I spent a good chunk of time playing -- definitely subbing after my trial runs out (unless they tack on your trial time for free if you sub, in which case I'll do it earlier ).
Still can't decide between minstrel, lore-master, burglar, and captain though. Got each into their mid teens but I like them all. A burglar explorer always seems like it would be useful (at least as an alt) for fueling the other crafts. Lore-master was fun, although shooting fireballs all the time is sort of odd for a LotR theme. I'm also generally a little wary of pet classes due to the scaling issues they always seem to have, but the role of the LM and the way they use their pet would seem to mitigate this. Minstrel and Captain were both a lot of fun in party play and less so solo. Is there a way to get mouse-over casts for healing? Hate having to drop targets to cast. From what I've read in the thread, none of those are overpopulated (although I'm hearing higher numbers for burglars and captains?), and all four are desired for team play, so to choose it almost seems like I should get out a dart board ;P
Question about crafting. Haven't seen anything that indicates any crafts are linked to player level. Does this mean one could park a lowbie alt Yeoman by a farm to take care of all the farming/cooking for your characters (and similarly for the other non-gathering profs)? Or do the crafting quests at the upper tiers get in the way of this or something? I generally get sucked into crafting in games, so I get kinda into min/maxing the professions for my characters.
@Fandyien
For soloing on my minstrel, I found just chaining T1 and T2 ballads (pausing only for the occasional Herald's Strike / Shout) was the fastest way to go, starting with Ballad of Resonance to boost your tactical damage. At 14 you get a nice DoT to lead off with that boosts your skills even more, but its got a short cooldown which is annoying versus multiple mobs. Pulling singles most mobs are dead or at least <50% health before they get to me.
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He's a little tough to solo with at times, but I can manage being as I'm so used to playing healers. Whats the skinny on Minstrels? Useful? Needed? Overpopulated?
Very useful. Very needed. Definitely NOT overpopulated.
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what you're missing is a few lev 60 friends to pull you through those.
Is this really the only way? Ugh.
Well, look up the stuff. If the mob that drops it is in Urugarth there's a possibility that some people who also need it will help you through it. If it's in Carn Dum, start farming gold, cause you're fucked.
It seems tea really isn't in demand. I'm finding that people are selling Cups of Black tea (An Item that has a one week timer to make, takes supreme cooking skill, and requires kindred status with the cooking guild) on the auction hall for less than half the price of a stack of medium hides.
what you're missing is a few lev 60 friends to pull you through those.
Is this really the only way? Ugh.
Well, look up the stuff. If the mob that drops it is in Urugarth there's a possibility that some people who also need it will help you through it. If it's in Carn Dum, start farming gold, cause you're fucked.
One of them is from Carn Dum, and its BoA. So....yeah.
The Urugarth one is also BoA, and the mob seems to only be involved in the LM/Mins class quests.
A full day scouring glff and lff in the respective zones amounted to jack, so not good. It probably made sense to have the level 45 class quest end on 30k+ morale mobs before the expansion, but now its just stupid.
Should I bother trying to level up tailoring at all? Or would I be better off doing as many quests as I can and get some nice gear rewards?
So confused!
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Best discovery I've made thus far in LotRO: Mapped back to the kinship house to find that there's a keg on the inside. Repeatedly drank from it until I woke up at the Bree Jail with a debuff with an icon of a panda that said I was sad because I missing my pants.
This game is so awesome.
That would be the Inn League Sinister Keg that I won during the spring festival. Glad you're enjoying.
Should I bother trying to level up tailoring at all? Or would I be better off doing as many quests as I can and get some nice gear rewards?
So confused!
You can always go back and level up tailoring later. Low levels you level so fast, you'd really be slowing yourself down if you focused on crafting.
Should I bother trying to level up tailoring at all? Or would I be better off doing as many quests as I can and get some nice gear rewards?
So confused!
I think other people in the Barrovian kin have tailoring covered, so you could ignore it. You should level up prospecter/forester though, to make some good money on AH.
all the "holy shit" gear comes from people who have already maxed out the crafting. Crafting is kind of an insane grind here in LotRO. Actually, a lot of aspects of LotRO are a bit more "grindy" then the "other game" I played. But still, it looks good while you're doing it...
Most Lotro quests don't seem very grindy. It's mostly longer travel times that's slowing me down. I recall 1 quest to kill 28 elite mobs, that's the biggest quest i've seen.
It should be possible to level tailoring while just using the hides that drop. You won't be able to get to mastery (which takes 2x the mats of normal levelling so 3x total) without buying mats or going postal on wildlife, but just levelling it up, and filling gaps with yellows and making 1 shot recipes can be nice. The time invested isn't very great. Once you hit the 3rd tier, you can do a Tailor's guild quest which supplies two very cheap recipes / tier on a 1d/3d cooldown, which is great if you are willing to take your time levelling up. (These mats give rep with the tailors guild, or are mats in tailors guild = purple recipes)
Just remember that you have to level masteries from the ground up too, you can't advance t2 mastery until you are a t1 master.
Without investing a crazy amount of time (Though I did do things like kill all the wolves while walking between quest locations), At 37 I have t1, t2 mastery, t3 at 200/720 towards mastery, and t4 at 140/440 towards t5. (I did buy some hides to get a head start on the tailors guild rep. mats)
Should I bother trying to level up tailoring at all? Or would I be better off doing as many quests as I can and get some nice gear rewards?
So confused!
I think other people in the Barrovian kin have tailoring covered, so you could ignore it. You should level up prospecter/forester though, to make some good money on AH.
If you need some low to mid level, light/medium armor, my warden Bigos can do it. I got Master Expert Tailor, and working on the next level now. If you got enough hides, I can fix you with something nice.
Edit: Here is a link to a list of tailoring recipes:
FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
Okay, I have a stupid question. I was looking at my map and just flipping through the zones and stuff, and my first impression is "Goddamn, Middle Earth is huge."
My query is, how much of that is actually there and visitable? Just Eriador and Rhohavan or whatever? Are The Mirkwood, the Lonely Mountain, etc actually zones or just little spots of color on the main map?
Word on the street is that mirkwood and Dol Guldur are in the next big content push. Not sure if that means the next "book" or the next "xpac", though. Rhoviananian isn't really fleshed out yet, but they probably will fill in the blank spaces on the maps as long as this MMO is running.
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edited May 2009
That's a little dissapointing, if only because I wanted to visit the men of the Dale, but I reckon the zones I have seen are mighty big and well-fleshed out enough that it isn't a big deal.
Mudshark the Dwarf Minstrel hit level 16 this morning. I love him.
Hmmm, expanding eastward instead of towards Rohan / Orthanc, interesting. Though the appendix of LotR does mention that the orcs attacked the Lonely Mountain, and a few words from Legolas on the situation at his homeland, i'm not sure there's much info on what's going on in that region during the War of the Ring.
Meeting Beorn will be cool though.
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FandyienBut Otto, what about us? Registered Userregular
edited May 2009
Yeah, I'm a lot more into The Hobbit, and Unfinished Tales, and the Silmarillion. I loved all of those, but I could never finish LOTR. Still haven't.
You could finish the Silmarillion but not the trilogy? You are not right in the head sir.
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edited May 2009
I know. There is something wrong with me.
I just hate Tolkien's attempts to generate narratives. He's a world-builder and a linguist of the highest order, but not so much of a traditional storyteller.
My favorite Tolkien anything is the story of that Human Prince who lives initially among the Elves, then as a bandit, and finally the God of the Sea or whatever gives him a sword and suit of legendary Elven armor. Shit is just so epic.
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Not a champion. Haven't played the other 2 classes but Captain is a badass class from what I have seen. Gaurd is just... tanking. :P
Maybe one day this week I'll have the patience to play.
I have cable and it just drops out. Fucking hell.
why is your sig 3000px × 1px?
Now I'm reading suggestions all over the place in official forums, etc that I should be doing my Implements of Knowledge quest (Sword or Staff of Knowledge, with Sword as the best choice with Moria released now) and doing Volume I: Book 1 so that I can get my first legendary.
The end mobs for Implements both have over 20k morale and don't seem to be a part of any other quest. Just the forwards of Volume II are all red to me.
Are the things I'm reading being overly optimistic about the possibility of completion at this level, or am I missing something?
I'm 44 at the moment, don't have any legendary traits, but I did buy 2 class books yesterday because I figured why not? I'm currently in Angmar, apparently half the pages of both drop here. :? This smells like grinding.
In Angmar, that means orcs and hillmen.
In Misty Mountains, that means Caldwell Pond and the goblin camps there. I was able to finish Lore of the Blade in something like half a day, with questing mixed in.
Some of them will only drop for you, they can't be traded. From what I understand there's typically at least one or two of that type for every class.
Is this really the only way? Ugh.
This game is so awesome.
In other news: Whoa clarinet is so cool
I'll be playing my level 10 Elf Minstrel some tonight. Add Plaata to your friends.
PSN = PessimistMaximus
He's a little tough to solo with at times, but I can manage being as I'm so used to playing healers. Whats the skinny on Minstrels? Useful? Needed? Overpopulated?
Still can't decide between minstrel, lore-master, burglar, and captain though. Got each into their mid teens but I like them all. A burglar explorer always seems like it would be useful (at least as an alt) for fueling the other crafts. Lore-master was fun, although shooting fireballs all the time is sort of odd for a LotR theme. I'm also generally a little wary of pet classes due to the scaling issues they always seem to have, but the role of the LM and the way they use their pet would seem to mitigate this. Minstrel and Captain were both a lot of fun in party play and less so solo. Is there a way to get mouse-over casts for healing? Hate having to drop targets to cast. From what I've read in the thread, none of those are overpopulated (although I'm hearing higher numbers for burglars and captains?), and all four are desired for team play, so to choose it almost seems like I should get out a dart board ;P
Question about crafting. Haven't seen anything that indicates any crafts are linked to player level. Does this mean one could park a lowbie alt Yeoman by a farm to take care of all the farming/cooking for your characters (and similarly for the other non-gathering profs)? Or do the crafting quests at the upper tiers get in the way of this or something? I generally get sucked into crafting in games, so I get kinda into min/maxing the professions for my characters.
@Fandyien
For soloing on my minstrel, I found just chaining T1 and T2 ballads (pausing only for the occasional Herald's Strike / Shout) was the fastest way to go, starting with Ballad of Resonance to boost your tactical damage. At 14 you get a nice DoT to lead off with that boosts your skills even more, but its got a short cooldown which is annoying versus multiple mobs. Pulling singles most mobs are dead or at least <50% health before they get to me.
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Very useful. Very needed. Definitely NOT overpopulated.
Well, look up the stuff. If the mob that drops it is in Urugarth there's a possibility that some people who also need it will help you through it. If it's in Carn Dum, start farming gold, cause you're fucked.
I guess I'll just make more pies or something.
One of them is from Carn Dum, and its BoA. So....yeah.
The Urugarth one is also BoA, and the mob seems to only be involved in the LM/Mins class quests.
A full day scouring glff and lff in the respective zones amounted to jack, so not good. It probably made sense to have the level 45 class quest end on 30k+ morale mobs before the expansion, but now its just stupid.
So confused!
That would be the Inn League Sinister Keg that I won during the spring festival. Glad you're enjoying.
You can always go back and level up tailoring later. Low levels you level so fast, you'd really be slowing yourself down if you focused on crafting.
I think other people in the Barrovian kin have tailoring covered, so you could ignore it. You should level up prospecter/forester though, to make some good money on AH.
But any rate, yeah, crafting is nuts.
It should be possible to level tailoring while just using the hides that drop. You won't be able to get to mastery (which takes 2x the mats of normal levelling so 3x total) without buying mats or going postal on wildlife, but just levelling it up, and filling gaps with yellows and making 1 shot recipes can be nice. The time invested isn't very great. Once you hit the 3rd tier, you can do a Tailor's guild quest which supplies two very cheap recipes / tier on a 1d/3d cooldown, which is great if you are willing to take your time levelling up. (These mats give rep with the tailors guild, or are mats in tailors guild = purple recipes)
Just remember that you have to level masteries from the ground up too, you can't advance t2 mastery until you are a t1 master.
Without investing a crazy amount of time (Though I did do things like kill all the wolves while walking between quest locations), At 37 I have t1, t2 mastery, t3 at 200/720 towards mastery, and t4 at 140/440 towards t5. (I did buy some hides to get a head start on the tailors guild rep. mats)
If you need some low to mid level, light/medium armor, my warden Bigos can do it. I got Master Expert Tailor, and working on the next level now. If you got enough hides, I can fix you with something nice.
Edit: Here is a link to a list of tailoring recipes:
http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Category:Tailor_Recipes
You can check what mats you might need.
My query is, how much of that is actually there and visitable? Just Eriador and Rhohavan or whatever? Are The Mirkwood, the Lonely Mountain, etc actually zones or just little spots of color on the main map?
Mudshark the Dwarf Minstrel hit level 16 this morning. I love him.
Meeting Beorn will be cool though.
I just hate Tolkien's attempts to generate narratives. He's a world-builder and a linguist of the highest order, but not so much of a traditional storyteller.
My favorite Tolkien anything is the story of that Human Prince who lives initially among the Elves, then as a bandit, and finally the God of the Sea or whatever gives him a sword and suit of legendary Elven armor. Shit is just so epic.